January 2012 rads

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Hi All. Anyone starting radiation in January? If so, it would be great to gain strength in numbers, so do jump in and say hi if you want too.

I am starting 6 weeks mid Jan. I don't know what to expect except maybe that it is a cumulative effect and side effects become more pronounced as more treatments are undertaken.

It would be lovely to share experiences with others undergoing their treatment so feel free to come on-board and we can all sail on this journey together.

 Cheers, Kate

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  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited January 2012

    Hi Kate, Such a lovely place to be before the holiday season. HOHOHO.

    I have my first meeting with my RO on 12/28. I was going to forgo this burning treatment til I joined a Rad thread on this site, all the ladies are so encouraging and brave. Now I'm almost looking forward to this. 

    I said NO to chemo, and I am on the fence about hormone theropy. I had my hormone levels checked. Very low estrogene levels. Whats the point!

    We can "sail" through this together.

    Are you making any preperations to your skin to protect it from the Rads? I'm not sure there is any pretreatment to avoid the sunburn effect. That dosen't scare me as much as the fatigue and the long term effect on the heart and lungs. although they are 'RARE'.

    I feel that the radiation is the least of the '3 evils' that is offered to BC gals. Just my opinion.

    So lets sail away and be a strong cup of tea!!

    HEATHY HOLIDAYS,Maureen

  • Kate60
    Kate60 Member Posts: 597
    edited December 2011

    Hi Maureen. BIGWelcome to you! Smile

    I have to admit, I know next to zero about radiation. Someone told me (and I now can't think who it was, there have been so many people I've had appointments with)  that each treatment is the equivalent of running a 20mile marathon. Now I have to tell you, I'd be absolutely buggered just doing one marathon, let alone 30 of them. Hence the fatigue, cause it takes a long time for the body to regenerate and fix the cells that get damaged. The healthy (non cancerous) ones do fix themselves, the bad ones kick the bucket.

     I have to say that I am so relieved that I don't have to do chemo. Heck I've spent far too much money to lose my luscious locks!! 

    Great to have you here. I haven't got a fixed date for my first radiation but they said it would be mid January. I had a lumpectomy and snb (all clear) and because I had very large breasts I got a reduction. That has been the silver lining to all of this. Should I be using a moisuriser now? I have heard you can suffer burns/blisters etc, ye-ouch.... Any tips greatfully received.

    Cheers for now, Kate  

  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited January 2012

    hello Kate,

    A 20 mile marathon X 30? I don't think so. KILL me now. I'm not trying to down-play the fatigue, but that would wipe me out. Stay hydrated, eat well and often, rest whenever possible. Many women that go into the radiation treatment have already been depleted by the chemo and most say it is "doable". I'm going to ask for an appointment as late in the day as possible.

    I had 3 surgeons and 2 MO's tell me I needed chemo. I refuse. In many cases the only thing the chemo does is compromise your immune system, take your hair, leaving the cancer behind. I'll let the rads wipe out any microscopic cells left behind after the surgery.

    I sound like a whimp but i'm not. Many of us are over diagnosed to keep the medical industry alive and well.

    Rads won't get the best of us. Think of it as a time for well deserved R&R. 

    Happy and HEATHY, Maureen

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited December 2011

    Hi there, just chiming in for a bit of christmas support for all of you.

    Had 8 1/2 weeks of daily rads with a boost at the end.  I really just went on with my life....please keep in mind that if ladies post on here it is because they are having issues with something in txtmnt.  Those that do not have issues, don't generally post.

    It was 8 1/2 weeks of non happenings.  Drive to the hospital, put on a johhny gown, lie on a big table, zap, zap like a dentist xray, dress, go buy some coffee, done for the day.

    I was never fatigues til the very end of the treatments.  I just slept a bit later and slowed down a bit.  I had my hair turn white (it colored itself again, very rare this one happens) and my skin did just fine.  I got a slight sunburn at the very end, but it went away.   No special txtment excep that I have heard good things about aloe vera and aquaphor lotion.

    Really the easiest part of the entire thing.  Now there are ladies that will jump all over me for this one, but I have to say for me, that was true.

    Good luck to all of you; I think you will be rather pleasantly surprised how quick and easy it is.  I would get up with my 7th grader, drop her at school, go get rads, go get a nice cup of coffee, on with my day.  No particular quarter given at all, in terms of rest.

    I think you will do just fine!

    Happy holidays

  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited January 2012

    anniealso,

    Thanx for the holiday cheer. I needed that.

    Coffee and rads, oh my. Sounds good to me.

    hugs and love to all, Maureen

  • Kate60
    Kate60 Member Posts: 597
    edited December 2011

    ANNIEALSO - Thanks for sharing your experience, it's always good to hear from someone who has been through it. I'm really glad that it wasn't too bad for you. Very hopeful for us ladies about to embark on the treatment.

    MAUREEN - I think you are very brave to have said No to chemo - before I got my SNB results back in, I was thinking what I would do if I needed Chemo and like you, I was weighing up all th pro's and con's. I figured that I didn't want my immune system compromised unless it was going to be a life saving step -not just a precautionary one. Luckily for me, I got the all clear and my BS is absolutly certain he got al the cancer out so I don't need it.

    Radiation doesn't phase me much. I figure what's a bit of skin burn and fatigue if its effective and hunts down and kills any other cancer cells lurking about? 

    Well it sure is going to be interesting having the treatment. Glad you're here with me.

     Cheers,Kate

  • Sharon1942
    Sharon1942 Member Posts: 272
    edited March 2014

    I start rads in January 2012.  6 1/2 weeks of 5 days at week.  Finished my last chemo on Dec. 13.  I'd love to be a part of the Jan. '12 radiation group.  I had left mastectomy on 8/11/11.

  • Kate60
    Kate60 Member Posts: 597
    edited December 2011

    Hi Sharon and Welcome .

    'Boy, you've been through a lot haven't you? Well it seems like the radiation is the last hurdle for you to jump over.... and it's lovely that you are here so we can all support each other. I too will be doing 6 weeks x 5 days of radiation next month.

    Hey I love your blogLaughing. Heck I actually learnt quite a bit about all the medical terminology.  I still don't have all the full facts about my cancer. I am hopeing to get the hormone status in the new year. My cancer was grade 3, a nasty little bugger, but absolutley teeny. I must have just got it in it's infancy.

    I didn't have any cancer in my sentinal node and as I had a breast reduction at the same time (I had humungous breasts, and apparently they don't handle radiation very well) they took out very wide margins and all was clear.

    This cancer has given me a lot to think about. I have never had much faith, and what little I did, was blown away with the events of September 11. But....... something or someone conspired to have me working in a hospital, where I was asked to hand out flyers for breast awareness month, and I pretty much rang on the spot figuring I was over 50 and the flyers were targeted at me!. I have to say, I am loathe about looking after myself and doing all the check ups etc you're supposed to do when you reach a certain age. I did have a pap smear last year, but that was only after my doctor made me give him my word that I would because it had been 11 years since my last one. So for me to ring up and make an appointment for a mammogram, without procrastinating and carrying on - on the spot, got the wheels in motion to catch this cancer in it's infancy.  To find out that it was small but aggressive, but was "caught in time" has really made me question a lot. Another thing too. My mother passed away over 4 years ago. No matter how much I wanted to really 'feel' her presence, I never did. That is until now..... Is it her doing this? is it God? So many questions for sure, but one thing I know, it has really made me question an awful lot.

    Anyway, enough about me. Welcome again and it's good to have you share you experiences here with us.

    Cheers

    Kate

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2011

    I will be beginning radiation in January as well.  I meet with the radiation oncologist next week and will probably start mid-January.  I had a radiation boost during surgery 2 weeks ago so this will cut down on some of my rad time.  At our first consult he said it would probably be 5 weeks.  I am still waiting for the results of an Oncotype test but my surgeon is not anticipating it being high enough to warrant any chemo as my tumor was small and the margins and nodes were clear.

     And Kate  I do believe things happen for a reason and there is no such thing as a coincidence.

  • Kate60
    Kate60 Member Posts: 597
    edited December 2011

    Hi Gayle. So nice to see you here.

    What is an Oncotype test? I don't have all my facts. My breast surgeon doesn't want to see me until November next year? I forgot to ask if my right breats (the good one) had been checked when they did the reduction. Do you think they would have checked it too for cancer? I feel such a duffus.. You and I have a very similar diagnosis.

    I did ask him though that if I was HER+ would I do Herceptin. He thought that would be overkill and honestly I am relieved by his response. I had sort of weighed up all the pro's and con's of taking that drug, and for me, I think it would have had more of a detrimental effect on me than the cancer was worth.

    I've always been very healthy. Strong as an ox, but to be honest I don't deserve to be this healthy. I have not treated this body as a temple, and I greatly fear that any drug that comprises my immunity will make it all come crashing down. Luckily, I am not faced with that now.

    I hear you about the coincidence factor.  ...... ummmm, more navel gazing from me.

    Cherrio for now

    Kate 

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited December 2011

    AussieKate, Oncotype test is to determine if chemo will help kill off the cells that "got away."  Radiation is only going to help with a local recurrence.  For example, someone may have had their mass removed, but if a cell or two is left over near the breast, RADS will help kill those off.

    Chemo is the only thing that will kill off cells that might have "got away" and left the breast area.  Chemo is always recommended when there is lymph node involvement since this indicates a cancer cell could be hiding out in the bones, liver, lungs or brain and can turn itself on later.  When this happens, the individual is considered to have mets and then the cancer is no longer curable.  The Oncotype test gives a number to help with a chemo decision.  Low numbers indicate that chemo wouldn't act on the person's particular type of cancer and high numbers mean that chemo will kill bad cells off.

    By the way, I have never heard of a doctor saying that taking Herceptrin for HER2+ is overkill.  HER2+ is an extremely aggressive cancer and before the meds Herceptrin, women would die from that particular type of cancer.   Until your full pathology report comes back, it would be tough to make a decision on the best treatment.

    BTW, my SN was negative on the initial pathology, but my BS felt my tumor was very close to my axillary so we agreed he would take a few lymph nodes while he was in there.  In the end, the SN was still negative, but there were 2 others that were positive.  Had he only taken the SN, I would have never known what was lurking in there.  Needless to say, as much as I didn't want chemo, I knew it would take my chances of recurrence down by a lot and kill any cells that may have escape.

    I've had my RO since June when I thought I would be a quick surgery, RADS and Tamoxifen.  Things are never what they seem.  Now that surgery and chemo are done, I go in for mapping on 12/27.  RADS will start either 1/2 or 1/3.  I've been kicking butt for 6 months now and plan to continue.

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2011

    My surgeon didn't think the numbers would be high on the Oncotype due to the small size of the tumor but I will not domy happy dance until the results are in.  He said they probably would not consider chemo unless the number was over 30.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited December 2011

    Gayle56, the Oncotype results have nothing to do with the size of a tumor.  The test is looking specifically at the individual's cancer.  It tests 21 (I think) specific genes.  There are women with 6cm tumors who score a 4 and then there are women with 1cm tumor that score a 35.  Each person's genetic make-up is different.

    I hope your numbers are low.  Also, chemo is a personal decision...not really the BS, MO or ROs.  A lot also depends on your age.  The younger you are (under 50 typically), the more likely they are going to recommend chemo and then you have to weigh it out and make the final decision.

    I would suggest reading up on HER2+ also.  There are groups on BCO that can tell you a lot about that specific type of tumor.  Good luck and best wishes.

  • treegirl
    treegirl Member Posts: 24
    edited December 2011

    I will also start in Jan. Had some wound issues which delayed my treatment by several months. Going for simulation on Monday after Xmas.

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2011

    Rockym thanks for that information.  All of this has been quite overwhelming but I am slowly doing my research and understanding what everything means.    I don't think my surgeon meant that the size determined the Oncotype number, I think he meant more that the tumor was very small and there was little chance that anything else was floating my body so to speak with the nodes and margins being clear.  I am over 50, I will turn 56 next month.  I will see what the medical oncologist has to say next week.  I have already decided if chemo is recommended I would get a second opinion down at MSK in NYC. 

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited December 2011

    I will also start in Jan.  Going for simulation on January 6th.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited December 2011

    Gayle56, glad to hear you have an MO appointment lined up.  I too went for a 2nd opinion after the first MO recommended TACx6.  I thought it was a bit overkill since my nodes only had micromets.  The MO at the 2nd opinion recommended TCx4 and called it chemo light.  I was glad to find out that there was an alternative for me.  I also sent my pathology slides to Johns Hopkins for a 2nd since the language on my final pathology was poorly written.  The first report said they saw "possible lymph nodes" and they were positive.  I was very angry because how could I make a decision when the wording was "possible."  Anyway, I stayed with the first MO, but he agreed we could do the TCx4.  I'm now 5 weeks PFC and ready to get this next phase over with.

    Hope your appointments are all positive with the easiest treatment plan.

  • ilovetennis
    ilovetennis Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2011

    I too will begin rad in January. I did 4AC and 4 taxol with little to no side effects, and had bmx last month, but am worried about radiation. I'm worried about damage to my heart and lungs. I'm 38, active and want to avoid being sedentary. I will also go back to work teaching 100 middle schoolers and am worried about the fatigue. I stayed away from the kids during chemo not because of the lack of energy but because of the chance of me getting sick. I've read horror stories of people doing well during chemo and then having a horrible time with radiation. Hoping that's not me. Hope you all had a good Christmas.

  • Kate60
    Kate60 Member Posts: 597
    edited December 2011

    Hi Tennis. Welcome. Yep, I'm a bit uncertain about rads too, but from what I can gather, the effects of chemo are much worse, so if you got through that OK hopefully radiation shouldn't be nearly as bad. Yes the fatigue side effect is going to be the kicker I think. But it might only last a couple of weeks. Lets hope anyway.  As you are young and active, probably your heart and lungs will be just fine.

    I had a lovely Christmas, but I have to say, I'm pleased it is all over for another year.... onto better things next year for all of us.

    Cheers

    Kate

  • WIMusicMaker
    WIMusicMaker Member Posts: 78
    edited December 2011

    Hi,

    I will be starting rads sometime in January. I have one more AC chemo tomorrow. I have a radiation simulation planned for January 5 and will start 2 weeks or so after that.

    ilovetennis-I will be on my stomach for rads to try to avoid any damage to heart, lungs and ribs. You might want to see if that is an option for you. I am also a middle school teacher and have been out all year. I was hoping to go back full time with the start of second semester at the end of January but my radiation oncologist thinks I should go back part time. She said I will be too tired!

    I am also eligible for a clinical trial and am trying to decide if I should join. I would be put into one of two treatments-one would be the traditional 6 1/2 weeks of rads or the other would be an accelerated 3 week program with a slightly higher dose every day and a boost at my tumor site. I guess the shortened 3 week program is something that is done in Canada and UK but is not standard yet in the US.  

    Chemo has not been a easy for me so I am hoping rads will be so much better! I too, am looking forward to a wonderful 2012! 

  • Amelie_Rose
    Amelie_Rose Member Posts: 106
    edited December 2011

    Hi,

    I too start radiation in Janurary.  I had my simulation last week and start 1/3.  I am a bit worried about radiation, especially about the risk for lung scarring.  I am glad to join this group and have sisters to journey with during treatment.

    I finished chemo on 11/30.  Chemo was not easy for me but I survived it and am happy to put it behind me.  My tumor was small, 8mm, and I am node negative. They found some 'isolated cells during my snb, but I am still considered node negative, it seems. Chemo was recommended for me because I am HER2+.  I really didn't want to do chemo and was terrified of both short and long-term side effects.  But the more I learned about HER2, the more I am glad I went ahead with chemo and am now on herceptin. 

    Anyone heard about emu oil?  It was recommended by a couple of gals on the TCH thread and I plan to get some to use on my skin during rads.  

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2011

    I am going to see the radiation oncologist tomorrow and I will ask about laying on the stomach.  He didn't mention anything about that last time I was there.  I had brought up the issue of damage because of the radiation being on the left side but he said the state of the art equipment they are now using reduces the risk of heart and lung damage.

    I am also a teacher and I have no intention of not working full time during the radiation treatment. I will go either before or after work.  If I get tired during the treatment I will take off a day or two to recharge.  That is the plan anyway so I guess we will see if it works out that way or not.

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited December 2011

    Hi everyone,

    I went through the measurements in December and went on a family cruise, got back the 24th and will go tomorrow, 12/27 for 3D/IMRT Verification Simulation.  I think I will receive my first radiation treatment tomorrow. 

    They told me the main side effects would probably be mild burning and fatigue which could become quite severe. 

    So, off to bed and will let everyone know how it goes.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited December 2011

    I'm off to my RO's office to have a CT scan and mapping in a hour. I guess this is the simulation process.  I'm not looking forward to this.  I was very strong when I got my dx, learned everything about my treatment (and even other types), but now this whole cancer thing is a huge drag.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited December 2011

    Rockym, Good luck today with the simulation.  It can be an emotional time. It's OK to cry if you need to.  Please do something nice for yourself today.  You deserve it.

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2011

    I received my Oncotype score - it is 20.  My surgeon said that chemo would only be an issue if it was over 30 but we will see if the medical oncologist is of the same mind set.    I saw the RO today for another consult.  Although he said it was possible that the radiation boost I received during surgery along with hormone therapy may be enough he doesn't have the data to back that up and there is not a clinical trial at the moment either to join so he left it up to me to decide what to do.  My gut is to go ahead with the 5 weeks of radiation to be on the safe side.  I will leave my final decision until I meet with the MO tomorrow.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited December 2011

    Elizabeth1889, thanks for your good wishes.  The CT scan and mapping was pretty uneventful.  I reminded them that I wasn't doing permanent tattoos and the ladies were appreciative.  They actually had the permanent pen out and had the doctor come in to make sure that was okay.

    I'm taking your advise and I'm going to have lunch with a friend today.  Maybe this evening I'll watch Terms of Endearment or Beaches :-) so I can get the tears flowing. 

  • Nicole55
    Nicole55 Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2011

    I will meet my surgeon january 12th and after that I guess that they will call me for rads.  The surgeon said 4 weeks/5 days a week.  I am not working since the surgery (December 9th) and the surgeon gave me a leave of absence for "unknown time".  Here in Quebec, I guess that it is not like in US because, the surgeon told me that he took a biopsy of the nodes during the surgery and he had the results when I was still on the table.   I am reading posts and I am surprised that woman can work during the radiations because I will be on my employer's health insurance until the treatment is over and as long as the doctor don't give his okay to return to work.  Now I don't really feel sick but I am a little tired. I hope that I will start rads in January and get back to work asap and forget about all this bad experience.

    hugs

    Nicole xx

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited December 2011

    Got the 3d imaging and first radiation treatment today.  It didn't affect me at all and go back again tomorrow.  Of course the showering around those strips was a drag tonight.  But of course, I know, this is just the first day and the radiologist told me after a couple weeks is when I will start feeling the fatigue.

    Hope everyone else is doing okay but just wanted to let you know it wasn't a bad day.

    Helen

  • Druanne
    Druanne Member Posts: 295
    edited December 2011

    Hi everyone! I see my RO this Friday morning..........says it is going to be a 90 minute appointment!! Wonder what is going to happen!! It is so interesting to me to hear about all the different treatments and scenarios for everyone......some have chemo first then radiation.....others the opposite.......some none and take tamoxifen or herceptin........it is all so crazy if you REALLY start mulling it all over inside your brain!!! Oh and decisions!!! I don't know what my Oncotype score is yet so am waiting on deciding about chemo......I am so afraid of chemo.....but I know there are so many strong women here that have gotten through to the other side!!!! Just rambling now.......sorry :) Time for bed......:) After I finish reading everyone's posts!! ;)

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