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  • ely136839
    ely136839 Member Posts: 30
    edited December 2011

    Sorry I haven't been on here since I started this, but I just was trying to get a break from cancer which is hard to do. I thought if I was not on the boards here then I would not think about it, but that is so untrue. I don't think you ever stop thinking about it. Maybe once it is over that can happen. I do like being able to connect with others in the same situation-you guys are great!



    I see there are quite a few of us starting our treatments soon and we will be beginning another part of this journey that will get us closer to putting this behind us. I do wish everyone a blessed Christmas, a Happy Hanukkah and a very Happy Healthy New Year!



    Janetanned- I was in your area in September when we took my son to visit Swarthmore College. Beautiful school and area!

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited December 2011

    ely and Janetanned - looks like we're from the same neck of the woods. My DH family is all from Delaware County and I'm just across the river in South Jersey.

    Ely-where are you having your treatments done? Feel free to PM me. We probably live so close to each other! I hear you about trying to forget cancer. I was just diagnosed on 12/1 and had my lumpectomy and SNB 9 days later - super fast!! On one hand, I'm glad I did, because I found out that  my cancer is the dreaded triple negative and is aggressive. By going after it so quickly, it didn't have time to spread. Whew. On the other hand, I went with the lumpectomy, not realizing that I even had an option for MX. Now I'm having genetic testing and if I carry the gene, I'm going to back and get a double MX and ovaries removed. I kind of wish I had had the test first, then I could have cut 'em out/off before the lumpectomy. Oh well....

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited December 2011

    Have to admit, today has been my hardest day so far... Went Wig shopping with my sister and friend and I just lost it when the "wig lady" put that first wig on me. It was so hard. It all became real. I'm so angry and sad right now.

    I'm so pissed off that I went for annual mammograms since 32 and in all likelihood had that damn ILC through my last one or two mammograms, I could scream! Why do Drs not have patients with dense breast get MRI's instead of mammograms?!?!?! Even if my insurance wouldn't cover it (who knows) I would have gladly paid for it myself if it was suggested!!!! So angry right now. I want to go on CNN and tell every woman that if their doctors mentions to them that they have dense breast, demand an MRI! Mammograms are not enough...

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2011

    Mom - I agree!  My mammogram showed a problem in my right breast.  That called for a biopsy.  When the results showed some DCIS my surgeon ordered an MRI.  The MRI found 2 areas that needed biopsies in my left breast.  The pathology report identified ILC and LCIS in my left breast.  Nothing showed up on the left side in both mammograms.  Nor could anything be felt.  If I didn't have the DCIS, I would not have found the ILC for another year or so.  BS believes I was very lucky.  Yeah right, lucky to have bc. Frown

    Ely - Swathmore is a lovely college.  My daughter worked in the Swarthmore Coop while in high school and met a number of students from Swarthmore.  Two neighborhood kids attend and love it!  Has your son decided where he will attend?

    Char - Wow you are a relative newbie!  So much has happened to you in such a short time. Your head must be spinning.  Are you being treated in NJ?

    Janet

  • lyla92
    lyla92 Member Posts: 13
    edited December 2011

    Hello all, this is my first time posting here. I have spent the last hour or so reading through and was so relieved to find this thread for those of us who will be starting the chemo journey soon. I found out yesterday that I will be starting TC on 1/9 and I don't know one person who has been through any of this. I have the most amazing support system with my family and friends, but it just isn't quite the same as hearing from, and sharing with, those of you who might be going through the exact same overwhelming, head spinning ride as I am right now. I had 24 lymph nodes removed last week and am still working on recovering from that, so it is hard to even start thinking about preparing for chemo. It is so helpful to come here and find such great information on what I might expect once it starts.

    I hope that we are all able to somehow find a little bit of calm and relaxation over the holidays before we start this next part of treatment.

     Lisa

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited December 2011

    So I've always been an overachiever; I guess having BC shouldn't change that.

    I was scheduled for "chemo school" tomorrow, and would be starting chemo on Jan. 6 - 4-6 rounds of TC.  Here I was, all freaked out about 4 - 6 rounds of chemo...

    ...then I got the call from my onco today with my Oncotype score:  42.  A recurrence rate of 28%. 

    Everything has changed.

    First, I get a port, and since everyone's on vacation next week, my treatment is pushed back a week (my onco says I have to wait a week between port placement and start of treatment, but I see others aren't in the same boat.  Oh well).  

    Second, I get a new chemo regimine!  I'll be doing AC x 4, then Taxol x 12.   I've been asked to join a clinical trial that would change the Taxol part of the treatment - I'd be randomized and either get Taxol every week for 12 weeks, or Taxol every other week for 6 treatment (12 weeks total).  It's a trial through the NCI, and my DH and I are reading over the material tonight trying to decide.  

    I'm shocked at how much treatment is changing based on the Oncotype score.  Does this make sense to anyone else?  I'm still in shock, to be honest - really, I'm all about "Go big or go home" but can the gods stop playing these nasty tricks on me for a while?  The last two months have been such a whirlwind, I need a break!

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2011

    Nancy - It seems that just as you are getting used to this mess, something new gets added or changed.  I feel your pain!  Back in Sept I walked out of my BS office all upset because I was looking at a lumpectomy with no chemo and probably no radiation.  Each week brought a new test and surgery plan.  By Nov I was looking at BMX/DIEP plus AND, followed by chemo and radiation.  How did that happen? Surprised   Stop this ride!  I want to get off!

    I'm surprised that your onco wants you to wait a week after the port gets placed.  While I think that it makes sense, it seems that many get the port placed one day and start chemo the next.  My mo suggested that I could have the port placed on the same day!  I think I'm going to try to get it done next week. I go for chemo education tomorrow.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2011

    Hi Lisa!  I'll be a few days ahead of you in treatment.  I'm scheduled for 4Ac followed by 4 taxol, every two weeks.

    Hopefully we will all get a chance to relax a bit during the Holidays!

    Janet

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited December 2011

    I was surprised when the doctor told me I had to wait a week to start treatment.  Perhaps it has to do with the drugs being delivered? 

    Janet, I'm so sorry to hear that things changed so dramatically for you, but thank you for sharing your story.

    I admit I was a hot mess when the doctor called - but now a few hours (and a Valium) later, I'm just plain pissed.  She called me and gave me this information over the phone, changing my treatment plan like she was changing the channel, and then happily (I mean, I could hear the smile on her face) suggested I was the "perfect" candidate for a clinical trial that would "change the lives of breast cancer patients to come."  HOW do you say no to something like that? 

    I'm sorry for venting.  I will stop now.  The merry-go-round is just a ride, and while I want to get off I'm kinda stuck here until the ride slows down.  Of course I'm stuck on the ugly horse, too, so I'm not having a lot of fun.  But that's okay - I'm not alone, and that's incredibly helpful right now.  Thanks for listening!

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited December 2011

    NancyHB: so sorry that you've had such news over the phone. Seems that at this time of year everyone is rushing :-(. I am having my port on the 11th and the oncologist has asked for it to remain "accessed" overnight so I can get my first chemo the next day. The only reason they can't do them on the same day is the two procedures are done at different centres. I don't know why your onc would want to wait a week. Why not call back and ask to discuss it - you've certainly got international proof (I'm in Australia) that there are different protocols elsewhere...



  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited December 2011

    I had my Gated Cardiac Heart Poll Scan this morning to see if my left ventricular ejection fraction is good enough to stand Herceptin. They are sending the report straight to the onc but I "chatted them up" and managed to see the scan and be told that it looked good and my LVEF will probably come out around the mid-60's which is great!



    Now nothing in the schedule until "chemo school" on the 3rd, port placement on the 11th and first FEC and Herceptin and denosumab (and all the anti-emetics etc etc etc) on the 12th. The thought is still making me sick to the stomach - so scary and like many of you this has happened so fast. Diagnosed on 1st Dec, wide local excision and SNB on the 9th etc.



    regards Jenn

  • maryhope
    maryhope Member Posts: 15
    edited December 2011

    Jann, my mammogram show two masses and my MRI showed one big Mass 8 cm.( the surgeon told me the results) Well, after the surgery RMX the report came back two small tumors!! So I have been going around saying I hate MRI's. They should not do test if not actuate....We can't win in this nightmare!! my head just pounds at the end of the night!! Not that I'm saying your test are wrong. Since all of this has started so many things have changed on me. There are so many factors when they do these test.



    Like I said earlier, it's so out of are control, and no time to ask for repeat text, and who's Insurance would pay for that anyways!



    I just went to the store and bought foods for chemo diet. I swear I got sick to my stomach and almost ran out of the store..I have read about how we should eat or not eat!! So I think, everything we do effects us so hard cause it so so scary!!!! I know MOMOF3BOYS had such a bad day going to check out wigs, iITS ALL TO MUCH FOR OUR EMOTIONS, THERE IS SO MUCH WE HAVE TO DO AND THINK ABOUT!!!! I was only shopping for jello, oatmeal, distill water ( found that one out on this board) and really felt sick!! Omg this sucks!! Hope we all can block it out for the next few days.



    You ladies who are going to be doing trial TX. I would love to do that! Good luck!

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2011

    I had "chemo education" today and took a quick tour of the infusion center.  Looks pretty comfortable.  I also spoke to a few of the chemo nurses and had them look at my veins. Based on their observations, I think I will have a port placed.  My veins are deep and not too big.  So, I will be scheduled to have the port installed on the morning of my first infusion (1/6/12).

    I was given a calendar with each infusion marked and all meds entered on the days they need to be taken.  If all goes well, my treatments end on April 13th (which is a Friday).Surprised

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2011

    Hi LAdies.. I wanted to chime in and cheer you on... I was part of the Jan 2011 Chemo group, starting TC on my 48th birthday. I had 6 rounds, and took a 10 day trip to St John between the 3rd and 4th treatments... I also worked full time and was promoted. I tell you this because chemo for most these days REALLY is doable. There are threads on here that you'll read with terrible side effects and never getting off the couch, but those are the exceptions... I read all that stuff and made a list of preventative measures I could take to make it through unscathed... or relatively unscathed.

    Yes, I lost my hair

    Yes, it is back and quite full

    That was my worst SE, but I had great wigs and got lots of compliments.

    I had a port and was very thankful, even for my 6 tx... I would not want to have been poked in the veins that many times... and I hear if you are borderline the chemo can leak and that is not good... 

    For the TC ladies, check out the threads: Taxotere is a Nightmare (but read it for suggestions, and don't be scared off) and Taxotere Toolbox (a thread with suggestions for combating SEs)

     I would have my infusion usually on a Tuesday and then Neulasta on Thursday am... Friday was my day to rest (achey and tired) and by Saturday feeling much better.

    Good luck ladies and you'll be fine!!!

    And Jane... I had my port put in and waited to have the infusion... it took me about 2-3 days to get used to the port... just food for thought.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited December 2011

    bdavis - thanks soooo much for your encouraging post. I meet with my MO for the first time on 1/4. Gotta admit -- I'm really, really nervous about chemo, especially the port. I'm a big baby. I hate, hate, hate needles - I have to lie down when I give blood so I don't pass out. The thought of a port completely skeeves me. I keep telling myself that I'll be able to handle the chemo because other than this stupid cancer, I'm healthy...I need to lose about 20 pounds, but other than that, I don't have any underlying health issue. Then I read all about the SE and get freaked. Your post was just what I needed!! So, this Jersey Girl thanks you!

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited December 2011
    Janetanned - I like the calendar idea. And Friday the 13th has always been my lucky day! My wedding anniversary is May 13 and I love when it falls on a friday. Laughing   I wish you lots of luck and a safe, comfortable experience.
  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2011

    Hello everyone...this is my first post here on this thread as I am scheduled to begin chemo in January 2012. I have my port placement January 4 and my education/nurse visit on January 6. The only thing that might postpone the chemo would be more surgery. I had a follow-up mammogram on Dec 15 and a small calcification was found at the lumpectomy area and this prompted another stereotactically guided biopsy that was done yesterday. I hope to have those results on this upcoming Tuesday/Wednesday after Christmas. If that's fine, then I'll move forward with port placement/chemo. I'm not sure yet of the drug combinations that will be used but it's my understanding that I will have 8 treatments along with herceptin.

    I am very nervous about the hair loss and the feeling of fatigue that might come. I'm in sales and have a fairly rigorous daily travel schedule and I am the face of my company when with customers. I hope the hair loss isn't a distraction when I'm making my sales presentations. I also hope I can keep up the pace.

    I know we are all in the same mess with similar and sometimes completely different but valid fears/concerns. Best of luck to everyone.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2011

    Bdavis - Thank you so much for your encouraging words! This is exactly what I needed to hear!  I want to go back to work (teacher) but was beginning to wonder if this would be possible after reading some of the side effect threads.  Fortunately my coworkers and principal are very understanding.  I am to return to my classroom on 1/3 with the understanding that I will take a sick day when scheduled for an infusion and on any day with SEs.  My MO thinks that I will be able to handle my work load as long as I have some support from my boss.

    The hair loss might be more tricky.  I need to find a wig that looks like my style now or change my style to match a wig.  I'm trying to avoid a drastic change once I go from my hair to synthetic hair.  Apparently it can done.  We will see.

    As for the port placement - I too was a bit surprised that they place it and use it on the same day.  I asked to have it placed next week, giving me a week or so to heal and settle in.  Unfortunately, due to the holidays, they are booked solid and can't fit me in.  When I voiced my concern about doing it on the same day, they replied that it shouldn't be a problem. They do it on a somewhat regular basis.  At my treatment center (HUP), they seem to encourage a person to try using their veins first.  If that doesn't go as expected, they offer a port for the following infusion date (same day).  According to my RO, other local treatment centers (like FoxChase)  automatically place ports for chemo.  I guess different philosophies.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited December 2011

    Hello and welcome NCbeachgal!

    Hopefully you can enjoy the next few days and worry about this whole chemo thing next year Wink.

    Also, hopefully no new surgery is in order.  Enough is enough already! Iwill keep my fingers and toes crossed for you.

    Janet

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2011

    Jane.. I was uncomfortable (especially in my neck) the first day with the port... so if you don't feel well, don't assume its the chemo, it may be the port. After 3-4 days, it was fine and I rarely even noticed it after that... I too work in a school, and had no troubel working. I missed infusion day (but could have made it in in the afternoon had I pushed) and then one other day per cycle... As for a wig, the faculty knoew I was having chemo and my wig was so good, they thought I was on the chemo you don't lose your hair. I had tons of compliments, especially from the kids, who had no idea. It was kind of nice to consistently have great hair. My insurance paid for teh first $500, so it only cost me $50... so I bought a second.

  • d-too
    d-too Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2011

    Happy Holidays everyone. It's nice to have a little break from doctors for a week or two. My power port was inserted in my left upper arm on wednesday. Thursday and Friday the site was very tender and there was no way to position my arm for pain relief. This morning when I woke up there was a big difference. A lot less pain and a lot less swelling. It looks like chemo will now start after New Years because of the research drug I'll be taking with herceptin.



    I met with the PS last week and I really like her. Looks like early summer I'll have new foobies.

    Still a little weirded out about looking for wigs and deciding if I even want one. I'm sure I'll change my mind several hundred more times.



    I can't ever remember having a personal friend having breast cancer. Last weekend my dearest friend had an abnormal mamo and found out it was just a good scare and all was fine. Today I had another close friend come to me and inform me she was diagnosed this week with breast cancer and is scheduled for a BMX Jan 4th. I spent a little time with her this morning and begged her to get on this website. Without the experiences shared by you ladies I would have truly been out of my mind. Reading what's shared from the heart in these forums is what relieved so much of my fears and kept me moving forward. My friend is experiencing that initial paralyzing fear. She thinks she's not going to survive the year. All I can do for her is to be a positive example right now. She doesn't want to hear/believe that she can survive this. I've been praying for her all day.



    On a good note I had a wonderful Christmas with my family this afternoon, celebrating earlier than usual because my DH will be working tomorrow. Still have a great day planned for tomorrow with my DS and my mom and a couple of close friends. I think something just landed on my roof...LOL... Goodnight alll.







  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited December 2011

    Merry Christmas to all of my new chemo buddies that celebrate Christmas,



    I am still fixating on this treatment - can't seem to get my thoughts away from it unfortunately. I really wish it had been able to be scheduled earlier but we couldn't get an earlier date for the port instal...



    Regards Jenn

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited December 2011

    Hi everyone. I'm part of the Dec group, but my second treatment (of six - AC and Taxotere, all at the same time) is Jan. 5, so I figured I'd get to know all of you along the way as well. Feel free to visit our thread. I'm almost two weeks out of my first treatment, and aside from a plunge in my white blood count and red blood count that landed me in the ER (much less serious than it sounds), I have been doing very well. Take your meds as prescribed, check these threads for tips about other things to deal with side effects, and don't be afraid to ask your onc any questions you have. Good luck.

    And happy holidays! 

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2011

    Thank you Janetanned! I'm of course anxious for the results of the biopsy to determine if more surgery is in order or if the next appointment is with my hairdresser to get my pre-chemo cut. In the meantime, my husband and I have researching wigs, scarves, hats. As anyone ever bought a cashmere hat or a mink-like hat? These seem less exspensive than wigs and practical since they can be worn for many years in the future. I also found a beautiful leather and sheepskin hat by UGG. I love their boots on my naked feet. I wonder if their hat is as good for a bare head?

    Janetanned-my MO said the port could be placed and then used in the next 24 hours. It must be pretty common to get started right away. Surprising though.

    Jennt28-the upcoming events rule my thoughts as well. It's almost 11 am here and I haven't shed a tear so far today. I'll consider it progress. The worry is difficult to shake. My head hurts from it and I find restful sleep almost impossible. I have to keep thinking the worry will become reality and the worry will prove to be much worse than the reality. Then I can use my imagination in a more positive and productive way. Good luck and I'm so sorry!

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2011

    Hi Ladies Iam starting on cytoxan and adriamycin on 1/5. It will be 4 rounds every other week. Then 12 weekly taxol and herceptin then herceptin every 3rd week for 40 weeks. Trying to figure out the best way to handle these tx but have to wait and see. Had a port put in 12/23 and happy I did. I will take any advice .

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited December 2011

    Ely I am starting the exact same routine on the 5th.   I don't think they are putting in a port to start with as no one has mentioned it and I don't meet with the oncology nurse until the 3rd.  I'd be glad to virtually hold hands.

    Peggy

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited December 2011

    I am joining this group.  As with CharB22, I am triple-negative so have to have chemo.  I had a lumpectomy on 12/7 and am still sore as I developed a huge hematoma that hasn't gone down yet.  I see my BS on 1/3 and my Onc on 1/4.  I was shocked this past week when I got a letter that I would start chemo on 1/9 with NO prior appointment with the Onc or nurse to answer any questions.  I called and insisted I needed an appointment before starting chemo and met with a nurse.  She looked at my veins and then said she thought I needed a port.   As with some of you, she said the port could be put in and used the same day.   I said "NOT."   I am not even healed from surgery over two weeks ago so am not going to do chemo on the same day as getting a port.  I want to know that I am healed and well before starting chemo.  I said I wanted to wait a week.  I then called my BS to see if I could schedule the port and they have tentatively squeezed me into the schedule for port surgery on 1/6.   They still have me scheduled to start chemo on 1/9 even though I told them I wanted to wait for a week after port surgery.   I guess they aren't listening to me.  I will tell my Onc when I meet with him on 1/4.    My other concern is this big hematoma I have.  They wanted to check for Von Willebrand's disease and platelet factors but weren't going to draw blood until 1/4???  I said that wouldn't give enough time before port surgery or chemo if we waited that long so they got me in last Friday for the blood draw.   I tell you, they seem to want to rush everything, except when I was first diagnosed.  It took them 3 months after I found the lump to get through all the tests and results before I had surgery.  I was the most horrible wait EVER!  And, because I'm triple-neg, the tumor grew from under 1 cm to 1.8 cm when it was removed.  Thankfully, it hadn't spread during all that wait.   Thanks everyone for being here and sharing.  It is a tremendous help!  I am sure I am going to have lots of questions.   I am getting DD (dose-dense) treatments of AC (8 cycles) and T (8 cycles).

  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited December 2011

    Hello everyone,

    Just want to tell everyone who has not started chemo yet about cold cap therapy. I just finished 6 rounds of TCH with all of my hair. I am so thrilled and just want to make sure everyone knows that they do have an option when it comes to losing their hair. I know that this has given me a much more positive attitude throughout my chemo, as well as letting me keep my privacy.  I used Penguin Cold Caps-   www.msc-worldwide.com

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited December 2011

    Kitchenella do you have any special tricks to keeping the wig in place and comfortable on you head? I wore mine yesterday and couldn't wait to get the damn thing off:(

  • Bapen
    Bapen Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2011

    Thank you for starting this group. I will be starting chemo TC x 4 on January 11. I have IDC. My tumor was 1.4 cm with isolated tumor cells in the sentinel node. My oncotype was 22. I saw 3 oncologists. One recommended AC x 4 & T x 4. She is at Northwestern in Chicago which is 2.5 hours from home. I also saw 2 other MO's closer to home. Both recommended TC. I decided to stay close to home. The MO I chose here in Iowa found a lump under my arm. I am hoping that it is a seroma (if it's not 1 thing it's another)! I am having the hardest time with the thought of losing my hair. I have been looking into the cold caps, but I am not completely sold on the idea. I am thankful to have these boards to find other women going through the same thing as me.

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