Taxotere is a nightmare

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  • mebmarj
    mebmarj Member Posts: 380
    edited December 2011

    I'm 2 1/2 months past chemo. Did 6 rounds of taxotere/carboplatin starting in June. Didn't have any problems with nails until the week before my last infusion in September. Ridges and pulling up some, no loss. The hair is long enough for me to go topless now at work. Started exercising again on dec 1 because I was just achy, especially if I'd I sit too long. Is that one of the lingering effects anyone has? Shoulders, hips and knees are the most sore joints. Hands too in the morning.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited December 2011
    Windlass don't worry about the novel. As long as you use paragraph breaks it's OK Wink
  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited December 2011

    There was actually a study that came out recently - and I think it was posted on bc.org - showing evidence of chemo brain in general, and finding that women may begin showing signs before they start chemo, raising questions as to whether it's actually directly related to the cancer. It was interesting - I can tell you my concentration and memory has been crappy since my dx, and that could very likely just be due to the fact that when you get a dx like this, yes, it will mess with your mind.

    I had my first tx today. I did ice my fingers and toes. So far I'm feeling fine, just tired. Need to go to bed soon. Hoping (?) to work part of tomorrow before going in for Neulasta. I also hope I can make it through Friday night before I get hit with any of the other symptoms. Stomach so far is behaving - had a martini and turkey burger with friends at a local pub tonight. I was going to skip it, but I felt pretty good and figured I want to grab as much normality as I possibly can.

    Regarding that study on gloves - I found them on Amazon marked down to about $100. I could get them, but I think I'll stick with the ice (or possibly buy the frozen peas - I never remembered to pick them up, but the fusion center had crushed ice that worked well).

    I think my onc and the nurse did a good job at going through all the possible SEs - they were impressed that I was aware of them and had done my research. Of course, I was reassured that many were rare. The nurse in the infusion center said she's seen women who chew ice during Adriamycin have had mixed results with preventing mouth sores. I tried it anyway. If anything, it was a more interesting way to hydrate as opposed to slurping more water down.

    Anyway, I hope these lingering SEs that you've all had eventually clear up. Right now, my #1 goal is to wipe out this cancer, but it's so frustrating that we sometimes wind up sacrificing so much when all is said and done. Good thing we're all strong. 

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2011

    Yay Rachel... One down.

  • FLwarrior
    FLwarrior Member Posts: 977
    edited December 2011

    rachelvk, Here's hoping you sail through with very little SEs!  Wishing you well. 

    windlass, I hope you are feeling better very soon!  We all seem to experience some sort of emotional upheaval with all that we have to go through.  It seems that most of the ladies on the boards are on or have been on anti-anxiety or anti-depressants.  I declined them when my MO suggested them, but I think now that I should have taken him up it.  It would have made my last 6 months much easier.  BC is such a HUGE thing to have to deal with!  (((Hugs))) to you and hope you feel better soon!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2011

    "I had to go to the ER one night to get lidocaine drops to stop the earpain."

    Thanks for that. I had terrible ear pain after the second taxotere treatment. I told my onc at the next poisoning and she didn't seem to know that it was caused by the chemo. 

  • Normandy18
    Normandy18 Member Posts: 30
    edited December 2011

    Anandagram: My onc prescribed something called Evonail. I brush it on my finger and toe nails every morning and so far so good. It goes on clear and you don't even notice that you have it on. My nails started to turn black during my last cycle of FEC, so I am glad to have something to help with my nails. I also am given an icebath for my nails, so hope this helps too.

    windlass: Thank you so much for letting us know when to expect the SE of Taxotere to kick in. I had my first Taxotere treatment last Monday (Dec. 12th) and my Neulasta injection yesterday. I am expecting the bone pain from the injection, but so far I am feeling pretty good. With the 3 rounds of FEC, I was really nauseated for about the first 4-5 days post chemo.

    Take care!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2011

    Normandy, I have had no nausea problems with the Tax, and that is without taking anti-emetic pills. They did give something intravenously against vomiting, but that is all.

    According to my onc, the bone pain from the neulasta typically shows up on day 6 or so. If you get bone pain before that, it is more likely from the actual chemo and you should take something anti-inflammatory to get it down. Tax can cause horrible bone and joint pain, as I found out after my second treatment. Hope you escape that particular joy. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited December 2011

    rachelvk my chemo nurse said the same thing about the ice chips in the mouth (in my case taxotere). She indicated it rarely works but it was my onc who recommended it when I started to get a sore tongue. It worked for me. I also wonder if that's why my taste changes weren't so bad either.

    I got my bone pain from Nuelasta 24 hours after taking it. The first was the worst. Aleve took the edge off of it for me but ask your onc if it's OK. Aleve can thin your blood and chemo does that too.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2011

    Same for me.. I had the pain the day after Neulasta and the first was the worst... I was told that the Neulasta is expanding the bone marrow from the inside out, so after the initial pushing outward, the following Neulasta shots shouldn't be as bad. I found that to be true... I used to have my Neulasta 2 days post chemo... so three days post chemo was my bad day... I think three days post chemo and one day post Neulasta is the bad time, and I was double dipping on that.. For one infusion, I had the Neulasta the day after chemo and found I never really had a bad day... Chemo Thurs, Neulasta Friday and then Sat night I was at a party... and I was waiting to feel fluish on SUnday, and just was tired... I should have done it that way for all 6 tx.

  • FLwarrior
    FLwarrior Member Posts: 977
    edited December 2011

    I experienced the same as lago and bettyd with bone pain 24 hours after Neulasta.  I had the pain in my thigh bones and lower back.  Like they said the first time was the worst and it was less noticable with each shot.  I took tylenol after the first shot and it helped.

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited December 2011

    Windlass, I agree with Lago about using paragraphs for your novel.... I seem to also get carried away with posts - I am sure you aren't any worse than me or a couple others here!  Wink

    Rachelvk, glad you have one down! 

    Also, I simply refuse to have chemo brain.  Now I do get confused, have memory problems, etc., but my DH continues to remind me that this was a problem BEFORE BC or chemo!  I think it is a bit worse, but I think it has to do with being completely overwhelmed with information, planning, reorganizing your entire life, trying to run your life with home, work, family, etc., and everything else we try to balance.  I have a basic understanding (VERY basic!) of neurophysiology, and I am very sure that part of our brain issues are just due to the phenomenal amount of stress we deal with during diagnosis and treatment, and survival.  I do think there is some evidence that chemo brain is real, but I am very stubborn and refuse to have that on top of my other SEs.  So THERE, BC!!! Tongue out Just hang in there, relax a little, breathe, and keep a sense of humor if some of those neuronal connections simply don't work at 100% capacity 100% of the time!

  • MJLToday
    MJLToday Member Posts: 2,068
    edited December 2011

    Ladies remember to take a Claritin the morning before your Neulast shot, then afterwards for 2 days.  Helps with the bone pain.

    Anyone with ideas for the tongue and throat swelling & pain?  I always lose my voice 10 days after the big T.  I took some OTC naproxen / Aleve this last round but it messed with my platelets so I won't be able to do that this time.  

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited December 2011
    I took claritin for 6-10 days  I used biotene mouth spray for the sore throat.
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited December 2011

    Well I don't have chemo brain. Not sure if it's because I still take the Acetyl-L-Carnitine. It is a memory booster. I swear my memory got better on it so I kept taking it after chemo too.

    MJLToday if your throat & tongue are swelling that sounds like an allergic reaction. I would talk to your onc about that. Not sure if benadryl or steriods would relieve that.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2011

    I took Acetly L-Carnitine through the entire course of Taxotere, and still lost my mind. Who knows, maybe it would have been even worse without it (though that's hard to imagine).

  • MJLToday
    MJLToday Member Posts: 2,068
    edited December 2011

    Yeah I talked with my onco about it, and he suggested a low dose of steroids the day(s) my voice got bad.  I'm trying to avoid that if possible since I hate pred so badly.  I guess I could try benadryl too but that really puts me out sleepy.  Yuck. 

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited December 2011
    mjl - Did you try the biotene spray?  It really helped me out with the sore throat, I just stuck the spray thing in my mouth so it hit the back of my throat.  worked especailly at night.
  • nmoss1000
    nmoss1000 Member Posts: 357
    edited December 2011

    Windlass you are not alone, Taxotere made me severely depressed. Compounded with excruciating pain from Nuelasta I was a literal basket case. I am now 6 months PFC and still in therapy and reeling from the dark places the treatment took me to. I am almost myself again and it does get better, the hard part was remembering it was the drugs and not me thinking/ talking. Hugs to you,

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited December 2011
    nmoss - Before I started chemo I talked with a coworker who is an experienced doctor and he told me exactly that - the drugs can make you feel bad and to remember that it isn't me, it's the drugs.  Glad you are feeling better.
  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited December 2011

    I'm having a tough day today....and I blame it all on Taxotere.  My nails are close to falling off and make it difficult to perform even simple tasks, except for typing.  Buttons, separating papers, scratching my head stubble are all dangerous as no matter how short I clip the nails they are still at risk for lifting off.  Can't even wear a necklace because I can't do the clasp.  Was at 8 fingernails involved when I went to bed, now all 10 are dying.  Just feeling sad today and tired of the side effects 7 wks pfc.  Eyelashes continue to disappear....hair growth is slow...ankles still swollen.  Just want this all over with.  Glad this thread is here, maybe my depression today is residual drug induced.

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited December 2011

    Shelley, the effects of taxotere can linger a LONG TIME!  My MO said I would feel better but it would "take a while" and from what I have found in research and asking lots of questions is that means about a year!!!!  There is a "coasting" effect from taxotere, where you feel better for a while, then feel worse, then better again.  So, yes, today is a tough day for you, just hang in there for 24 hours and things will change (the only sure thing is that things ALWAYS change!).  Be kind to yourself, don't try to force yourself to be different than you are right now.  Things will DEFINITELY get better, but at a pace that is much slower than most of us wish.  Special positive thoughts heading your way, along with some gentle hugs.

    Do you have someone who can help with the jewelry?  I found that pullovers and zippers worked best for me until surgery, and wearing a little bling makes me feel better, too.

  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited December 2011

    Thanks, Linda.  My DH can help, but it is a pain asking him....I'm just having a bad day and indulging in a little self-pity I guess.  Not usually like this but getting worn down.

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited December 2011

    Shelley, you have earned the right to indulge in a little self-pity, just don't let it take over completely.  My DH actually kind of liked me asking him to help with the necklace - one of the few "romantic" things he could actually do - put his arms around me while fastening behind my neck.  Take advantage of any opportunity to be close.  Hope your tomorrow is a bit better.  I was 7 months pfc before I started feeling a little better and able to travel and hike, and I know how very miserable it can be, just waiting to heal.  But remember, your body has been assaulted by very toxic chemicals, and it will take a lot of healing. And remember all the people in your life who love you and that you love.  You can do this!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited December 2011

    hi , i had a reaction to my 2nd taxol. my last 2 chemos are taxotrete, had 1st,tues. just had to comment OMG taxotere is a NIGHTMARE!!!!! LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited December 2011

    belleeast, you can do it kick that Taxotere's a$$. I know it is the worst way to spend the holiday, last year on this day I ended up in the hospital with an infection I was in isolation until the 27th, my infection was a UTI (of all things) they realized at the time I needed to take the Neulasta shot after each chemo  I never got sick with an infection again but the tax kept on kickin my butt.... it will soon be over. I hope you can have the best holiday you can, ask for extra hugs they really do help Laughing

    Tracie

    forgot to ask what was your reaction?

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited December 2011

    thanks tracie, i had trouble breathing and throat closed up. my mo had a baby, she had me take neulesta after each of my 4 DD a/c and 2 DD taxol. but my sub mo says we'll do texotere 3 wks apart so no neulesta, i had a UTI between a/c and first taxol, very painful.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2011

    Bele, why do they want to avoid the neulasta? I had after every chemo, athough my chemos were 3 weeks apart.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited December 2011

    idk, he was surprised my mo gave it after my DD taxol. i don't have much confidence in him, he asked if my mo had dicussed hormone therapy, i said i am triple negative. oh, no hormone therapy then! Read my chart,please!!

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2011

    I also had Neulasta after each taxotere (6tx)

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