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  • Joan811
    Joan811 Member Posts: 2,672
    edited December 2011

    LuvRVing - I got tattoos at my planning session.  Did not hurt.  Right before I get into position for the rad treatment, the technologist uses a marker to make a visible dot on top of my tattoo.  They can see it well, and it is the correct spot.  I can wash it - no tape - and next time they put the dot on again.  It takes a second.
    Lily - you are the best - making me smile - just hoping that all is well.  Each of us will not be the same after this - every lump, bump and twinge will send us running here then to the doctors.
    Vicks - glad you can see the finish line!
    Nat - I am about to finish week #1!!!  And today was the very first day I have entered the rads rooms without taking xanax.  I made it through with no more fidgeting and wiggling (toes only) than usual!
    In fact, my radiation technologist gave me a glowing report Tongue out
    kdajay - my birthday gift was not having to start rads until after Thanksgiving week end.  YAY!
    And here's a cake for you, since it is after midnight!   Happy Birthday!

    Birthday Cake

    It's almost the week end....
    Hugs and prayers for those who need...
    Joan

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    Vicks1960. Congrats and enjoy some of that warmth for us in the colder climates! We will live vicariously through you.

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    Joan. Thank you for the cake. It is perfect...all of the fun and none of the calories!

  • tvacrat
    tvacrat Member Posts: 60
    edited December 2011

    Vicks1960 - Enjoy every single second of your "gift!" You worked hard for it.

    Kdajay - you and I are on the exact same schedule: last regular tx today, boosts next week. I'm just hoping things don't get worse before they start getting better. The burn in my armpit is really bothering me and I don't even want to think about my poor nipple.

    Have a good weekend. TGIF never meant quite this much! 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited December 2011

    Happy Birthday, Kdajay!

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KDAYJAY!

    Vicks - congratulations! Love the phrase "MD shuffle" and plan to starting using it :)

    Joan - congrats to you, too! Not only weaning yourself off the Xanax but even considered a "model patient" by the techs.  

    I've started asking about my boost regimen, since I now only have 5 regular whole breast zaps left. Can I make it through without breaking the skin? We'll see....the area where my breast joins my chest on the side is very raw and sore, and pretty much just about to break open. TGIF!

    So apparently, they can do my boosts one of 2 ways and it wasn't in my chart yet which kind I would be getting. They seemed to indicate the most common way was lying propped up on my side, and getting a more shallow dose. But I might have to stay on my back and get a deeper dose because I have very dense breasts and my tumor was in the back of my breast. I'm guessing that means more radiated healthy tissue, but what are you gonna do? I see my RO on Wednesdays, so I will find out then for sure. They mentioned "photons" and "tangential," so I am Googling that to read more about the different kinds of boosts.

    I would be curious to hear what those of you who are finishing up got in the way of boosts... 

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    Thanks for all the birthday wishes.

    tvacrat I understand about the armpit and nipple. I saw the RO yesterday and asked if the boosts would include the armpit area and begged her for it not to. I don't think I can take much more. Also my nipple is now peeling for the second time, thank you. It kind of reminds me of a dog that has a really pink nose from being in the sun too much...only it is not wet and cold, just dry and sore!

    lilylady I will keep waiting for your post today...dying to know if you flashed the doctor or not :-) Hope you find that the spot is nothing more than a reaction to the radiation. Holding my breath for you.

  • Vicks1960
    Vicks1960 Member Posts: 473
    edited December 2011

    ptdreamers:

    Thanks for the holiday wish.  Yes, we are heading for Yuma, AZ and Palm Springs, CA.

    It is cold here in NE right now  16 degrees.  Forcast is 3-8 inches of snow tomorrow YUK! and Monday night only 7 degrees.....

    GOOD LUCK on finishing the rads!!!!   I certainly feel better with them done and all the tubes out....(Mentally as well as physically!)

    Where in WA are you.  Years ago, we lived in Auburn (now the area is Federal Way).

    Vickie

  • nans
    nans Member Posts: 45
    edited December 2011

    Kdjay-Happy birthday!  I hope you get to do something relaxing and fun today.

    Lilylady-You have a wonderful sense of humor.  That's one of the things that makes all of this bearable for me.  Prayers that you are able to destress a little until your appointment and that all of this is nothing.

    Vicks-I can't speak for AZ, but CA is having lovely weather.  Warm days and cool nights.  Hope it stays that way until you come.

    I've had 10 treatments so far.  They cancelled today because the machine broke down.  That bumps me to Dec. 30 for my last one.  Hopefully there won't be any other problems.  I really don't want to carry this into the new year.  So far no major problems.  I've been slathering on the aquaphor 4 times a day.  (I laughed today as I picked up a jumbo jar.  My RO nurse told me not to bother getting the large one that I wouldn't need it.  I've used 3/4 of the small one she suggested and I'm not even half way through.  Maybe I'm being a bit heavy handed, but it seems to be working.)

    Hope  everyone has a restful and fun weekend.  My husband is taking me to see River Dance tonight.  It doesn't start until 7:30.  Hopefully I won't fall asleep during it! :)

  • dawmson
    dawmson Member Posts: 75
    edited December 2011

    I haven't posted here much but I wanted to check in and answer Natters' question. 

    My boosts were shallow; they put a bolus on my skin which they said would absorb some of the radiation and not let it penetrate as deeply. My tumor was just under my skin, though, and I have very small breasts (A cup).

    I'm finished up on Monday and my skin is doing great. I had a really bad rash that started with the boosts and just started getting better on Wednesday. 1% hydrocortisone did nothing for it, so I got a prescription for triamcinolone cream. The rash still looks bad (lovely red dots all over my chest, up to my neck and almost to my belly button) but doesn't itch anymore. My skin is deep red where the boost were but has already faded a lot everywhere else (my last regular treatment was 2 weeks ago today).

    Keep looking ahead! It does end and it gets better. I look back on the last 7 weeks and they were an absolute blur. I hardly remember mid-October, when I started. It seems like years ago. Finishing this treatment is a huge milestone and I am so happy to have 2012 to start fresh.  

  • Joan811
    Joan811 Member Posts: 2,672
    edited December 2011

    itt is Friday and I should be so glad week 1 is done. I am, but felt kind of down today. Not enough sleep. Had a late ap

    Pt. with primary care and got home 10 pm Thurs. then up at 5:30 to make early rads appt. today.

    I don't know if it is possible that the rads are making me totally wiped out after just 5?

    One thing I feel is the physical and emotional drain on women is huge. In one week I have met a number of rads patients whose stories and treatments are so tough.

    Maybe it's getting off steroids and not using Xanax that is wearing on me. Not sure but I am totally wiped out.

    Today was X-ray day plus tx. Double time. I asked a lot of Qs and tech agreed that I was high maintenance today :-P

    Have a good week end.

    Joan

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    Joan -yes it is possible to be wiped out at five. When radiation first started, I was tired and attributed it to the chemo and time change. Looking back, I think it was my body getting adjusted to radiation. Then, for a while, it got better and, now, I am back at being tired.



    Give yourself a break. You are going through a lot and while other people may have what you see as a harder journey, yours is just as hard for you because it is yours! Hope you got some extra sleep last night. Maybe you can take a nap today too.



    We are here for you.

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    Joan, rads is emotionally exhausting, if nothing else :( try to relax and enjoy your 2 days off!



    Dawmson, were your boosts in the same position as your zaps? I mean, were you lying in the same position? Unfortunately, I have big, dense breasts and my tumor was near the back BUT it was also near the top (2o'clock) and that part of my breast is kind of flat and shallow. So maybe I can get the more shallow kind that zaps less of your heart and lungs - here's hoping! I will find out next week, I guess.



    Neither the Benadryl gel nor the 1% hydrocort helps my itchy rash for long, and it's all I can do not toscartch myself raw! Trying to keep myself distracted this weekend. At least I slept better last night (no night sweats - hooray!)

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    I finished my regular rads yesterday and will move on to my boosts Monday. When I asked the technicians about the boosts and if I have to schedule another simulation this is what they told me. First, they will position me like normal. Then they will adjust the fields per the "prescription". Then they will take X-rays to make sure the settings are correct and after that I will have the treatment. I am the last appointment so they will use my regular scheduled time to do all of this. They said to plan for one half hour. I said that I hoped the boosts didn't hit my armpit and they said nothing so, I guess I am doomed in that department.



    This last treatment was really hard. My armpit is badly burned and the skin is really tight. When I put my arms over my head, it really hurt and, I have to admit, I cried. Hard to cry and stay still for the treatment! Had to gather myself so i didnt move. I am really going to over moisturize this weekend and hopefully loosen that tight skin before Monday.



    Almost done!

  • lilylady
    lilylady Member Posts: 1,079
    edited December 2011

      nans-I am with you, I will finish up on Dec 29 if there are no hiccups. I don;t want this going into 2012 either. I had to wait yesterday because the computer kept rebooting but I did get my tx in.

      My position is flat on my back arms above my head and face turned with chin raised, The machine moves 3 times. The first time I don;t have the bolus but the other 2 shots I have the bolus draped all the way across the chest and even tucked in under me a little bit. Since I have no breasts I think it is taking their place.

  • MrsMot
    MrsMot Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    Vicks 1960 congrats...live a long long healthy life!  You did it!

    Kdajay happy belated birthday!  I was not on yesterday as I had a rad apt then my PET scan.  Hope you had a great birthday.  I plan on celebrating every birthday God gives me...You are still here, alive, and living!  May you have many many more birthdays!!!

    Hopefully Tues I will get an "all clear" from the PET scan.  Four rads down...29 more to go. 

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    MrsMo, I hope you are planning a little celebration on Tuesday.



    Kdayjay, thanks for the info! I think they told me to expect about 20 minutes. And I didn't ask but I'm fairly sure my worst areas are part of the boost field :(. Here's hoping we're both wrong.



    And I have cried on the table before so I know what you mean- hard to hold still if a sob grabs you. Right then.

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited December 2011
    MrsMot Hope Tuesday goes well for you. Lilylady I will finish the same day as you if all goes as planned. Your are right I want to start a fresh year with rads behind me. Kdajay, Hope the boosts aren't too bad. Have they given you gel sheets or something like that to apply to your burns? Feeling really fatiqued today, glad its the weekend and we can just kick back.Smile
  • tvacrat
    tvacrat Member Posts: 60
    edited December 2011

    I was pretty uncomfortable yesterday after my last full tx before the boosts, but today is so much worse. My armpit kills and the nurse told me there was a 50/50 chance that the skin would open during the weekend. I don't think it has, but it's awfully tight. And I noticed today that the skin in the fold under my breast has opened and it's raw. As are some of the areas on my chest. They'll give me Silvadene (sp?) to put on it, but I'll have to wait until I go in on Monday. Until then, it's Aquafor and more Aquafor. I've been taking Advil but I have some Percocet left over from my knee replacement in May, and I think I'll take that tonight. Every once in a while I wonder, with DCIS Stage 0, did I really have to do the rads? I guess I'll never know. Just hope that once this is over, it's over!

    KDAJAY - I asked about the boosts and the tech told me that it had all been mapped out during the initial planning. So I don't think I'll have to stay much longer on Monday, but we'll see. 

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    http://poptop.hypermart.net/brcavnpi.html



    That link will send you to a page where you can calculate, based on your age and pathology, whether you really really need rads after lumpectomy with DCIS. It does not take into account genetic liability, though. it's called the modified Van Nuys Prognostic Index for DCIS.



    Jamie, I didn't want to do rads, either, but I'm an 8 on that scale, so knowing that helped me accept it. My skin just opened up today, even though I haven't worn a bra in a week and I've been slathering my chest with Miaderm and Aquaphor 3-4 times-day. 10 more left...

  • RealtorJackie
    RealtorJackie Member Posts: 91
    edited December 2011

         I started complaining at rads on Friday about my redness and burning.  A lady in the waiting room told me about a juice they gave her Mom that cools her from the inside out.  The nurse gave me a sample and coupon.  Ensure makes it, and it is called Juven.  I am drinking some now.

       Another patient brought me an aloe vera plant.  Slathering Aquafor on.  Boost set up on Tuesday.  The end is in sight!

  • tvacrat
    tvacrat Member Posts: 60
    edited December 2011

    Natters, thanks for the info. I think I looked at that link sometime in the past, but I don't know how large the clear margins were. Still, the best I can score is a 6, so I guess that does help. Good to know. Do you have 10 more including the boosts? 

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    I have 5 more regular and then 5 boosts, and the boosts will probably be on my raw area. Not looking forward to more rads in another day, but hoping to complete before the holidays.



    Everything I've read (and my MO) suggest that drugs like Tamoxifen only give those of us with DCIS an additional 2-4% reduction in risk for recurrence, whereas rads gives us way more bang for our buck, cutting our post-surgery risk in half.



    Jackie, that's the first time I've heard about that drink hmmm will look into that.

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited December 2011

    Jackie, Just read up on Juven. Good to know about it. I am so glad we have this thread going. Since everyone is in different stages of going through rads etc. we are able to help one another by sharing things we have learned. Thanks to everyone for their input. Hope the rest of the weekend is restful and healing.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited December 2011

    I have a few questions before I finish reading all the entries, I hope you all do not mind!

    Is anybody doing tomotherapy? It has been recommended for me but the drive is a bit further.

    My background-I had bc in 2002, did lumpectomy, chemo rads for right side. New primary on left side in march of 2011. Have done chemo, bmx, now healing from surgery waiting for rads.

    RO said rads will be much more tough this time, more burning because I have less tissue and chest muscle needs to be treated. Larger area needs to be treated, including im nodes, supraclavicle nodes, axilla nodes.

    I am a haircolorist, on my feet all day and need to look somewhat presentable. I have no breasts, could not do immediate reconstruction. What am I going to wear if I decide to continue to work? (seriously considering quiting, I only work a couple of days and have been approved for ssdi). Is clothing going to be uncomfortable? I always get hot anyways when working. Will my underarms rub and get sore? Can I wear deoderant?

    How much fatigue will I have? I had alot of chemo and healing has been a long road. Feeling pretty good now less than a week out from bmx. Still no hair:(. Have many of you worked at a job standing all day? Would you just quit if you were me? I think working messes up my ssdi anyways. I tried working on chemo and had to take way too many breaks and had to have co workers help me and I was miserable. I just have a hard time thinking about not working, I am only 45 and have always worked. I know  i can go back after done with all treatment. I still need a hysterectomy and diep reconstruction. Did anybody else quit work for a year or two? Am I a wimp? I don't know what to do. I don't want to tell my bosses that I might not be coming back anytime soon. They are expecting me back Jan. 11. Sorry for the rambling on a thread I never posted on before, but I need advice!

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    You are NOT a wimp if you take the time off and, being so young, you have plenty of years ahead of you to work after you heal from rads and recon and everything! What is one year out of the 40+ ahead of you? if you're going nuts at home all the time, maybe you could do a little volunteer work, something more sedentary? Or even just less hours? Like, if you did haircuts and hairstyles for people in need or something, then maybe you could just do a few, rather than being on your feet all day like now? You could use the time to visit and spend time with family, enjoy them, and catch up on movies and books? In any case, you are not too young to take a little break and you are not being a wuss. After all, you need your time and energy to beat this thing all the way back so you live a long and productive life.



    I'll let some MX people who are having axilla and supra clavicle, etc radiated who also went thruchemo respond to you about symptoms, because my situation is too different. But I just wanted toreassure you ASAP that you are one tough lady and it's perfectly fine to take a little time to heal before you get on with your life. Nothing is more important than your health.



    Nat

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited December 2011

    Bak94 I agree with Natters. Your body needs time to heal. Most of the RO's have reccommended no deoderant and loose comfortable cotton clothing. As Natters said volunteer or find a hobby to fill the days but take the time to concentrate on getting well. Best of luck to you.

  • nans
    nans Member Posts: 45
    edited December 2011

    Bak94-Hang tough.  This is a difficult time and you are allowed to vent or worry when ever you need to.  This is a great place for that since we can all relate. 

     I agree with the other posts that you need to use this time to rest and get yourself back to full strength.  I had a mx in March followed by 6 months of chem and now 30 Rads. I'm about the same age as you and was working part time as a teacher I ended up quitting prior to surgery at the urging of my husband and am glad I did. Now I'm able to nap when I need to and relax all day if my body demands it. I found it helps to still structure my day with a combination of planned rest and activity. I've had times when I feel guilty for being inactive and have to remind myself of the advice from my oncologist.  She said it typically takes 6 months or more after chemo to feel full strength again.  The or more part depends on how much you push yourself.  Pushing too much results in a longer recuperation time.

    With a son heading off to college next year, I know I will be going back to work.  As for now it's time to take care of myself so I will be able to do that.  Hope this helps.   I'll say a prayer for you!

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2011

    Tvacrat - I am so sorry you have such pain. I understand totally though as my armpit is the worst! Tight skin, peeling, open areas....yep, I know that well. When I started having open areas that seeped, I was told to use Domeboro soaks. You can find the powder at the drug store near the Epsom Salts. I use one-half packet in one quart water. Pour it on a washcloth or some other cloth and wring out. You want it wet but not soaking. Put the cloth on the open areas for about 15 minutes or so two or three times a day. It is drying for those areas that are seepy and stick to your clothes. When you go back to the doc ask if they have any burn gel sheets. I have found those to help the really dry, painful areas.



    Your sister in pain...kdajay

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited December 2011

    I am curious, ladies...how many treatments did you have before you started to notice red or burning skin and/or fatigue? 

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