Couple of questions about radiation

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I am starting radiation treatments tomorrow and have 2 questions.  First, a friend of mine said that she thought getting the marking tattoos are optional.  I have sharpie markings right now but assume they will do the tattoos tomorrow before my treatment.  So is this true?  What are the pros to getting the tattoos?  Also, no one has discussed the deodorant situation with me!  So I am assuming I am not supposed to wear deodorant when I go tomorrow? Thanks!

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  • Mandalala
    Mandalala Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2011

    The tattoos are to get the radiation in the right place, and I have understood that thay are very important. Nobody asked me if I wanted them, they just tattooed away ... and the dots are almost invisibly small. Well, I live in Sweden, they might have other routines where you are.

    I asked about deodorant and was told that a deodorant without perfume is OK. I use a thai stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum) and have less problems with the area where I use the deo than with the rest of my armpit and breast. I have had 18 radiations by now.

  • ma111
    ma111 Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2011

    They will do the tattoos after they make sure your are properly lined up. I'm not sure they are optional as that's how they line you up.

    No deodorant, only aleovera gel and nothing 2 hours prior to radiation. They should have given you this info in writing!

  • eileenr56
    eileenr56 Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2011

    I never had tattoos.  Only sharpie marks with clear tape under them.  The facility I go to stopped doing tattoos.

  • bgail84
    bgail84 Member Posts: 94
    edited December 2011

    I got sharpie marks and clear tape yesterday. Center does not do tattos. Marks are fairly large; I look like a coloring book on the left side. I am using Tom's deodorant, but the RO told me nothing at all on the left side. Seems they are all different. Blessed be to all. Gail

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited December 2011

    Tattoos were not optional at my center.  I had to get them whether I wanted them or not. I finished rads over three months ago.  I saw my MO for a check up today and I asked him about getting the tattoos removed.  Even though they are tiny, I hate them.  He said it would be fine to have a dermatologist remove them.

    I recommend asking your RO about what deoderants are safe to use during radiation.  Every center seems to have a different opinion.  I used no deoderant each rad day until after rads.  Then I used Tom's of Maine, a deoderant without aluminum.   

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited December 2011

    The facility I went to did not do tattoos. If you don't want them, make sure the permission form you sign does not include permission for tattoos. The sometimes argue but it's your choice. You can be lined up just as well with Sharpie marks. If they start to fade they can just do them again - after all, you're there every day!

    I was also told no deoderant on rads side but it was really not relevant for me since I haven't sweated on that side since the ALND. I was also told only baby soap, not even something mild like Dove.

    Best of luck with rads.

    Leah

  • 5kidsMom
    5kidsMom Member Posts: 118
    edited December 2011

    Finding the discussion on marks vs tatoos very interesting.  I DID NOT want tatoos, and the people who did the planning/simulation the initial visit were fine with that.  I agreed to come back if the stickers started to come off.  The therapists who did the simulation and actual radiation really wanted me to get tatooed.  The woman therapist completely understood why I didn't want them and was very respectful.  The man didn't get it, but was still really good about it.  They told me it was completely my call and you know, it is YOUR body, don't let people tell you things are required: they aren't.  You can refuse anything you want. 

     After a long discussion I did end up getting just 3 marks.  They were radiating very close to my heart, and I decided that I wanted everything as precise as it could be.  Honestly now, the marks don't bother me.  I think that if everyone in the facility had given me the same explanation, I wouldn't have had such a hard time with it. 

    As for deodorant, they told me that the basic thing was nothing with metal in it.  Most deodorants have aluminum.  They mentioned that any metal residue on my skin would be like metal in a microwave--yikes! 

    Hope all went well for you today!

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited December 2011

    The specifics of whether tattoos are required, optional or otherwise varies by where you have your radiation.  I checked out mutliple sites.  Where I chose to go (an MD Anderson satellite) did not every do tattoos, it wasn't an option even if I had wanted it.  If I had gone to another site, I would have had tattoos.  Personally, I had preferred not being permanently marked like that, but the radiation left scars anwa.

  • Mandalala
    Mandalala Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2011

    If metal in the deodorant is like metal in a microwave, I'll stop using the thai stone, as alun does contain aluminium. So, no thai stone. 

  • pj12
    pj12 Member Posts: 25,402
    edited December 2011

    My tattoos were VERY small. In the dim light of the treatment room one of the older techs (40ish) could not see them. That really worried me so I circled each one with a black marker. Made me wonder why I had the tattoos in the first place. The lead therapist said the tattoo allows a more accurate alignment. Well, not if they can't see it!

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011

    There is obviously wide variation in practices across treatment centers. At my radiation oncology center, they told me that they used to tattoo everyone, but that they got a lot of complaints about it, so they finally just started using Sharpie marks and stickers on everybody. However, they were still willing to tattoo me after I asked for them. 

    Why would I ask to be permanently marked? Well, we all have things that drive us nuts or that we can't stand. Some people hate being permanently marked but I hated having the large Sharpie marks all over my chest because they were visible in some of my tops and made me self-conscious. I also hated seeing myself topless in the mirror with those large ugly marks. In contrast, the tattoos are tiny and look like other freckles and birth marks I already have on my chest and ribcage. They look natural. Also, they are SO SO much smaller than the Sharpie marks. Finally, the last reason was that I am a pretty active person and I just had a really hard time keeping the tape marks on, what with the bras and the constant lotioning and changing. And they would itch as they started to pull off my skin.

    So I decided that right now I'm under a lot of stress and if these tiny permanent marks can reduce that stress in any way, then I wanted them. And I have not regretted my decision in the slightest because it feels like it has been faster to line me up for treatment plus no more stress on my end about losing my itchy, ugly big stickers. I will admit that I already have 2 decorative tattoos on my body, so maybe I was already predisposed to being inked. But this is a very personal choice and as other people have said, it is your body and to the extent that you can control what is happening during this very difficult time, you should consider your options and see if you can get what you want during rads.

  • Sharon1942
    Sharon1942 Member Posts: 272
    edited February 2012

    Before my 5th radiation this morning, they took x-rays.  Does anyone know why they take x-rays?  Technician said they'd do so every 5-6 treatments.

  • Pegs
    Pegs Member Posts: 198
    edited February 2012

    the tatoos are no big deal, they just look like dots, i think they do them to line everything up correctly.  they should give you a list of things you can and can't use , just a suggestion but look into getting emu oil, read about it many here have used it , i loved it , after radiation i would put it on and in the morning, i went to rads late in the day, i tried aquaphor and it was sooooo greasy it ruined many shirts.  if i put it on in the morning sometimes they had to wipe it off when i went for my rads.  i got exrays every so often too but i can't remember why, sorry.  good luck

  • Judy2013
    Judy2013 Member Posts: 9
    edited February 2012

    The tatoos were optional for me but I wanted them--anything that keeps them from making a mistake in radiation is good for me.  They are VERY small and could easily be covered up with concealer if you don't want them to show in a low-cut top.  I was also marked and taped but that didn't leave me any room for applying cream (I am small-breasted), so I complained about that and the doc said the tape could come off since I have the tatoos.  I feel a lot better now without looking like a checkerboard and the lines showing through white tops.  

    I use Jeans Cream which is just aloe and vitamin E and not greasy.  I saw this mentioned in another discussion and am happy with it.  The x-rays, once a week, are to check the progress as I guess they can see what has been radiated and make adjustments if necessary.

  • CTMOM1234
    CTMOM1234 Member Posts: 633
    edited February 2012

    Did not want even the teeniest tattoo -- see my profile line. To each his/her own, but I am so so so happy that they allowed me to just be stickered and sharpied (and I was very respectful to not make extra work for the techs so did take care with the stickers and they were very thorough about making sure each time that everything lined up). Not every place gives you a choice, so am grateful for that. 

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited February 2012

    Sharon1942,

    The tattoos are really important for lining up the direction of the radiation precisely.  My understanding of the xrays is to make sure that the radiation is hitting the appropriate area.  Sometimes we gain or lose weight or our body changes so there might be a need to change the direction of the radiation beam. At least that is my understanding of it.

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    FYI...my hurt really bad...then they faded and had to do some of them over...especially the ones on my chest bone and on the sides under my arms....

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