Is There A September 2011 Chemo Group?

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  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2011

    ditto ditto ditto ditto ....we are all so alike.  Must be this is the point of this journey that we all let our emotions take over.  A new week is beginning and tx #6 will be wed....3/4 done!

    Maggie

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited November 2011

    hi everyone, well the bone pain has let up some,knock on wood! but i'm still on the emotional rollercoaster. it seems like we all are on it, i guess it's par for the course!

    i don't know why but i find myself wondering/questioning decisions i've made in my life ie my divorce 17yrs ago what if's . it is so hard going thru this alone even tho i have 6 children they all have their own lives. i have always been a shy, introverted person and at my age i don't see that changing.

    when i went thru major depression 7yrs of not being able to leave my house, i dealt with all these issues/what ifs so WTH why all over again??? enough already!!!

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited November 2011

    Hugs.  You are not alone belle. I hear you and a lot of us watch this board and hear you any tiime you speak.  Can you feel someone next to you and grabbing your hand to give you strength?  I hope so.

  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited November 2011

    Belle and all:  we are not alone and this thread gives us a chance to express ourselves honestly, no filter for our loved ones.  We will get through this.  We will be well, we will be strong and we will be healed.  My hand is out for anyone needing to hold one.....

  • Kelliregi
    Kelliregi Member Posts: 138
    edited November 2011

    I love you guys!!!! I can't imagine going through this without you all! Cancer sucks ass!! I'm sorry, but I had to say it. 

    I had my big treatment the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, & felt like crap for turkey day. My husband spent the week with our middle son as he graduated from Airborne School and our youngest son, with my blessing, ditched me and went to a friend's house for dinner. I enjoyed a nice pity party with the dog and puking Exorcist cat.

    Thankfully, as of yesterday, I'm feeling much better. I walked around the new car show yesterday and even went to the gym today. 5000 meters in 35 minutes on the Concept 2 rower =).

    The one thing that seems to be unrelenting is the stupid digestive issues! How is it that everything going in tastes like cardboard, but comes out like 5 alarm chili? WTH!!! 

    This cancer thing is such a rollercoaster, and I just want off. For some reason, my chemobrain can't properly read a calender. I thought I was going to be done by Dec.28th and the New Year. Apparently I counted November 30th twice. I now realize that I won't be done until January  4th. Not the end of the world, but a little disappointing. At least I only have 2 more big treatments left =).

    Love you all!!

    Kelli

    xoxo 

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2011

    Hi everyone



    Belle - please do not feel that you are alone. Please stop second guessing the choices in your life (I.e. divorce). I am sure there are people on this breastcancer.org website who are as lonely as you are now and they have partners (just ones who are very unsupportive - and just yanking them down more).



    True we are all quite separated geographically but we are still a community ( a community of bald, nauseous, diarrhea prone, highly uncomfortable women!). and we all will get through this mostly because we have to. We have to for our families, friends but mostly for ourselves. I am giving you a hug right now (I actually hugged my iPad - hope you feel it when you read this!).



    Thanks to all of you who listen/read all my worries and complaints. Take care.

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited November 2011

    Hi Kelli, good to hear you are feeling up to the Concept 2!  Is that something you always did or something new to help you with LE? Trying to find LE friendly ways to get back in shape and slowly rebuild my arms. I have to try to track down a good LE pt here in phoenix but I am dragging my feet:(

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2011

    Is anyone doing the turmeric thing after treatment? A friend lent me the "anti-cancer" book and they say turmeric (or curcumin) has huge anti inflammatory properties. But you have to combine it with pepper for better absorption. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

  • Kelliregi
    Kelliregi Member Posts: 138
    edited November 2011

    Cooka -  I'm not anything close to fitness buff =). I started using the Concept2 prior to my cancer, then quit when things got hectic and I wasn't feeling well. I checked with my LE therapist and she said it would be a great workout to help with my LE. Swimming is also good for LE. I may try getting into our fitness club pool in a couple of weeks, but not sure if I'm brave enough for that yet. There is a BIG  window as you walk into the club to the pool, not to mention using the changing room..... Not sure I'm ready.

    Belleeast - Sending hugs too! I think this stupid cancer is such a crossroads in our life, it makes us question everything.  I question from the stupid to the serious. Nothing is too big or too small to question. When it gets too overwhelming, I take an Ativan. Sometimes better living through chemicals seem to be the only answer that makes sense. xoxo

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited November 2011

    uh oh Robo...what's up?  Anxiety won't give you a break?

     Kelli- I am so with you on the pool thing. Used to swim at my Y and there is no way in hell me and my dog ears are parading around in there..think they will kick me out if i wear a sweatshirt in the pool? :) 

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited November 2011

    Did you guys know they make special mastectomy swimsuits and water foobs for inside the suit......so they're not floating like buoys beside you.

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2011

    My problem with buying such a swimwuit is the inserts are over $100 each and up and insurance will only pay for either recon or prostesis...not both.  going to mexico in april before my recon and wondering  how I will handle the swimsuit thing.  Maybe I will just buy some really big t-shirts

    Maggie

  • Kelliregi
    Kelliregi Member Posts: 138
    edited November 2011

    Somebody on one of the threads (I wish I could remember which one) was making her own foobs. I wonder if you made some with quick-dry fabric and beanie baby type beads, if they would sink or swim. 

    I don't even care about being flat, it's the stupid dog ear things!! 

    Robo - Some days, Ativan is like mana from heaven. I only take it once or twice a day, for 4-5 days, every 3 weeks after my big chemo treatments. 

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited November 2011

    Kelli- I'm glad you said that about the Ativan. I think I am going to try it for the days following my big chemo treatments, too. I don't know why I've been holding off. I could use the better sleep those days too, and I find that I just toss and turn. Now if I could just find something for the weepiness, pity-party that seems to peak those days....

    Belle and everyone else feeling sad, mad, etc.- I am right there with you, feeling the way you are feeling and sending you positive thoughts . I feel like the emotional toll this puts on us cannot be understood by anyone who has not gone through it, no matter how well-intentioned. Between the stress of it all and the physical toll on our bodies and hormones, it seems like it is impossible not to experience the lows that we all have been. I am grateful that this board has helped me keep my sanity. 

    On a lighter note, I saw someone wear a really cute ruffled top bathing suit that masked the fact they had not had reconstruction. Granted there wasn't any cleavage, but I would never have guessed this woman had a BMX.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited November 2011

    hi everyone,

    thank you so much for the hugs and support, i couldn't get thru this without all of you. hugs to all of you!!!

    my mo called this afternoon to tell me my brca genetic test was negative, i am so relieved esp for my children and grandchildren. but there is a part of me that says crap, now i have to keep these boobs, the fear of reoccurance is so great. even tho i know it is more likely my type triple negative if it comes back, it will come back mets. at least i don't have to deal with more surgery now but i tell you if it comes back in my breasts, i'm getting a bmx next time.

    i was surprised when she called, she asked how i was when she called i told her i had a lot of bone pain. then she told me why she was calling and do you think i remembered to ask for pain medicine heck no! crap, cause i didn't knock on wood hard enough and the bone pain is back with a vengence. i know she's not in the office on tues so i guess i'll wait til i see her on thurs.

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited November 2011

    Karen - About turmeric.  I like Indian food and curry.  Unfortunately no one else I know does...and I don't how to cook it.  I'm thinking they probably suggest way more turmeric than in the diet anyway.  Are you taking supplements.  Are there supplements?

    Kelli - I enjoyed the description of the puking Exorcist cat.  I've always felt that way about cats.  How nice of you to keep one anyway:)

    Cheap water boobs - you could always pin matching beanie babies in old suit, hop in the tub or hot tub and see what they do.  If it works, might be worth it to gut the babies, create a better shape and sew/tack it in to a suit.  I saw one lady used those nylon ball, fluff ball sink scrubbies to fill out her suit because they drained water so easily.  Women are inventive and it's not just our recipes.

  • Kelliregi
    Kelliregi Member Posts: 138
    edited November 2011

    tlcdirect.org has microbead breast forms that are safe to swim in for $45 BUT Mastectomysolutions.com has instructions on how to sew your own. I can't seem to make the link work. They don't look to complicated to make.

    Kimberly - I'm sooo not a cat person! I'm allergic to him to boot. I just don't have the heart to make him leave and he did save us from a snake of undetermined poison content last week. Also  what a great idea about the sink scrubbies!  

    Belle - Awesome news about your BRCA teating!!!! Sorry about the leg pain though. I hope you get some relief soon. 

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2011

    check out mastectomysolutions.com...the woman on the site makes the microbead forms and they are $28/pair delivered.  I bought a pair over a month  ago and they are perfect.  Guess I need to order more for the swim thing..kinda forgot about her.  She really does a nice job on them and can get in different sizes. she also sells the straps to keep a regular bra from riding up since there is nothing holding it in place

    Maggie 

  • GirlPowerDebbie
    GirlPowerDebbie Member Posts: 213
    edited November 2011

    Girls, do not be shy about asking for meds.  This is the time when we can pretty much have what we ask for but the onc is not going to say "Can I write you a prescription for Percocet or Ativan or Xanax?"  But if you ask, she will write it.  Then ... TAKE THEM.  Why suffer from bone pain or anxiety when there is a pill for that?  It won't make you an addict, it will just make things tolerable.  When I get anxious and feel my chest start to tighten up from the anxiety, I eat 1/2 a Xanax and it fixes it within 15 minutes, but it does not make me sleepy or goofy.  Same goes for the Ativan.  And if you are in pain, your body tenses up and takes longer to heal.  So stop thinking of these as recreational drugs.  There is a reason they make them!  I am miserable enough ... if taking a pill helps, I am all for it.

    Take care ... Debbie

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited November 2011

    cjrt, good luck on your surgery dec 2nd, prayers and healing thoughts will be sent your way that day and everyday,girl! we will be thinking of you.

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2011

    Belle---do you still get to choose either lumpectomy or bmx??  If not it should be YOUR chioce either way.  It can be such a hard decision to make I know but me being trip neg also made it easier for me to decide. 

    cjrt--bet you are busy getting ready for the surgery.  We are all there with you holding your hand.  Wishing you a speedy recovery so you can finish this chemo train ride.

    Maggie

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited November 2011

    Mags and Belle- Thank you so much for the well wishes and support. Words cannot express how grateful I am to have found such an incredible group of women. I appreciate every last positive thought you send my way. I am anxious about the surgery and the amount of help I will need after but ready to get this out of the way.

    I share this story for those of you needing a laugh- The stress of the reality of the surgery switched to annoyance today at my hospital pre-op appointment when I ran into a similar situation as many of you have, with a well-intentioned person thinking they can say whatever they want. Despite me acting positive and upbeat and wearing my expensive wig and cute ball cap, the nurse going over my medical history felt it was necessary to go off on a tangent about how to style my hair into the future. I should " definietly lose the wig" and "rock a super cute pixie style" when my hair grows in.  Then she proceeded to tell me how cute the style would be, how my hair will likely grow in curly and of a beautiful color with amazing sheen, and about the compliments her friend who went through chemo got once her hair started growing back in.  This literally went on for about 5 minutes as she described how I should wait until it "folds down a little" rather than "sticks straight up like a freaky spike."  All her words.  What possesses people to say this stuff to us!?!?  How would she have reacted if I told her how to style her hair?!!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited November 2011

    mags,when i was first diagnosed i was told the core biopsy results said i had the best bc to have solid pappillary,5% reoccurance, 95% survival, didn't know hormone status. i was given choice of lumpectomy,rads or masectomy with reconstruction. bs &staff were really pushing for lump,kinda made me feel i would be overeacting if i did masectomy.

    so i did lumpectomy ,when final path results came in, bs told me it's more serious then we thought idc triple neg,1mm margin from chest wall,need chemo. reoccurance 41%,70% survival. WTH

    i wish i had followed my gut and had masectomy,i wasn't offered the choice of bmx, but you all know what a whirlwind it is at first and i made my decision on the info i had at the time.

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited November 2011

    Hi All.  Hope you had a good couple of days.  My life has changed somewhat again.  My oldest daughter has left her boyfriend and her and the two kids have moved back in with me!  Ugh!  Just when I was enjoying my peace and quiet.  What can ya do?

    I left work today with a terrible cold complete with sneezing, coughing and blowing my nose til it hurt.  I think it's just sinus flare up since I usually have a flare up this time of year and again in the spring.  No fever so far so I hope this little episode does not keep me from my 5th treatment Thursday.  Don't want to get it pushed back a week.  I want to stay on schedule and get this over with!

    Hugs to all of you!

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2011

    #6 is today...hoping for a non event!

    Belle--are they still giving you the option if it is what you want?? Your decision was made with the info you had been given at the time of lx.  Things have changed.  I know that by doing chemo first tumors shrink to allow the lxinstead of mx but if you feel that you want a bmx then they should honor that.  It is your body and your choice.  The trip neg is what made me decide.  It is the hardest decision I have ever had to make.  I wish you the best and either way I hope you get what you want!  No regrets my love.

    Maggie

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited November 2011

    Not sure if I am having wishful hallucinating or not.  I think I see a wee bit of hair coming back.  I wonder if it would look cute in a super short pixie (hee, hee).  CJRT - Too bad you are off treatment now, you could have barfed on her shoes or something to show your appreciation. OK, a little too passive/aggressive for a therapist but I say, whatever works

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited November 2011

    I was shopping at Walgreens and saw all these oversized stuffed animals.  I did not think of children in need or christmas.  I thought, you know those stuffed animal paws are the perfect size for foobs, and they look really soft too.  Ha, ha. To a boobless woman, everything looks like a possible foob I guess.  Merry Christmas season everyone.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited November 2011

    maggie, hope treatment goes well. no, i haven't been offered the choice to do either masc or bmx except if the genetic test came back positive then they said i would need the bmx but it came back neg for brca 1 and brca 2. i think they really want to get the radiation going after chemo because of the chest wall. i see the dr tomorrow and will talk to her.

    kelli, i did the same thing counted 1 of my treatments twice so my last one is jan 3rd. it really sucks, couldn't believe i miscounted. i was really counting on being done with chemo by xmas.

    on a good note, bone pain is less today.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited November 2011

    rj, been there a few times with kids,hope you feel better soon.

    kimberly, that is just too funny!!!!!

    rae, are you out there,hope you are doing good and feeling good. thinking of you!

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2011

    went to doc at 10am..blood work good sent me off to do the next treatment and wait for hospital to call.  No call at 1 so husband said lets go get paper work done and get a jump but hospital has no bed for me yet :(  Waiting in the lobby til the guy in my bed gets cut loose..hope it is today!!

    Maggie

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