So now I'm using my cancer for attention
I just don't even know what to do with this. My brother in law and niece who were so cruel to me have just been even more horrible and my sister has joined them. I posted the other day what my BIL and niece did. It hurt me and unraveled me so much I ended up talking to a therapist at the Cancer Center in my car during work. She suggested I write them a letter and focus on me and not them, she suggested saying "I was hurt and I have realized I need to focus on myself and my illness and that I can't be put in situations where I am not supported so I ask you respect that and stay away...etc." Well my BIL responded with an email that said he thought "I was using my cancer for attention" and I "disgusted him" My niece resonded by saying "it would have been more mature to have confronted them and give them a chance to explain their comments" My husband lost it and called my BIL who in turn hung up on him. When I contacted my sister my niece answered and said my sister wasn't home (she was) and then when I confronted her she hung up. I called again got the answering machine my sister finally picked up started screaming at me., I screamed back and she hung up on me. I don't understand their cruelty. I have had cancer for all of 12 days - saw my sister once and she tried to fight with me then, my niece is in nashville and just came up for the holiday - hasn't called or emailed and my BIL has emailed once. I haven't posted anything on Facebook so I don't know where I'm looking for all this attention that they think I'm after - I'm so angry and so badly want to now post on facebook what they have done. I never thought the hardest part about having cancer would be how my own "family" treated me, I can't imagine the treatment will be worse than how this feels.
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Kayce,
Unless a person has gone through what you are right now, they don't know how we feel.
I would just consider the source and get on with what I need to do. You NEED to concentrate on getting well, and don't need the stress caused by inconsiderate comments from others...
Keep your chin up... It takes time to get used to this horrible type of diagnosis.
vickie
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Kayce, sorry that these family members have not been supportive but you cannot change their behaviour and attitudes.
Do you have other family and friends whom you can rely on for support? I hope so, in which case try to put your sister's family out of your mind, though I am sure their rejection is very hurtful, and draw strength from those who care.
Although you are angry and upset, I would encourage you to be civil to these family members if you do encounter them. Don't drag yourself down to their level. They should not be able to criticise you if you act with dignity and it may even rub off on them. I am just saying this as you may encounter them over the holidays.
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Kayce.. I would for sure NOT post on Facebook any of this.. that will only lead to more problems that will most likely cause permanent issues.
I can't comment on why they are normally nasty, and have gotten worse after your diagnosis, but it seems to me that they are not the kind of people you need in your life right now, family or not... I would totally distance yourself from them... I am sure you have other family or friends who can be supportive.
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Dear Kayce, I am so sorry that you need to even think about this. Thanksgiving should be a time of giving and caring and its sad to think that family has been unsupportive. I agree with your therapist and think she is spot on.
Know we care about you here. Please don't let them worry you and try to just release the anger. Focus on you and your health.
Happy Thanksgiving
Bevin
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Kristen,
I am so sorry that this happened to you. I think you should not have any contact with them. You deserve to have the support of everyone in the world. They are insensitive and mean and they don't deserve you. Don't post about it on Facebook - just come here and vent to us. We know what it is like to have cancer. You'll get lots of support here.
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Kristen, I am sorry that you are having such miserable family difficulties at this time. Cancer, especially when you are first diagnosed, is awful enough even when everyone is supportive. You know we will be supportive here. Sending hugs to you.
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Kace- Ohhh, Im so sorry you are having to deal with this at such a hard time in your life. I agree with every one else, dont post on FB it will only make matters worse and you may end up looking like the villian, even though you are not. Right now you need to just focus on you and getting through all of your treatments. It they are that insenseative to what you are going through then you dont need them in your life right now. I wish you the best and hope it all works out.
(Hugs)
Debbie
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It's so sad !! Not only you have to battle Cancer but now have to battle your family , what's wrong with some people!!!!!!! Hope they come to understand what your going through , not guess what it be like to be in your situation ,
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This is why I have kept my bc as private as possible. People turn really weird and sometimes hurtful when you sure don't have the energy to deal with it.........................and I don't need to keep talking to people about it as it's upsetting to me.
Do what feels right for you and your immediate family right now.
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Kaycee I must admit I don't really care for the advice you got from the bc counselor........and the above posts I think have given you some sound advice........don't post anything on facebook until you get your footing...........and please understand you have now entered cancer world........unless your sister, BIL, husband have had cancer they will not understand your feelings, fears, your own mortality......they can't........and you can't expect them too............
this dx is going to consume you......for the next year as you go through treatment you will not have anything else to talk about.........what I would recommend is try and find something you can focus on besides your cancer.......if it is some sort of craft.......reading.......cooking.........something that can give you some sort of conversation besides bc and your current treatment........ when you are with your family including your husband.......
as far as releasing your thoughts I would either keep a journal or blog........something you can document your journey and can write down and verify your feelings without those feelings controlling all your relationships with your friends and family..........it will be too much for the people that care about you.......it is just simply too intense..........
and that is where bc.org or other support sites can help you as far as your day to day living with this disease......... you can come here and purge all the fear and loneliness that will come as you deal with this because we do get it......believe us.......
I know you are angry at your sister and bil......they are not reacting like you feel like they should.....hell this is CANCER but don't let cancer make you a selfish person.......try and remember they may not be dealing with cancer but they all have problems they have to live with everyday.....and how can they come to you with their problems.......you have cancer......you will always outrank them........don't forget to ask your sister how she is doing and her life.........
believe it or not the world is not going to stop because you have breast cancer.....even your own world is going to continue even though now you feel like an outsider.......that is because in many ways you are.......your whole outlook is going to be seen through diseased breasts........
you have got to get out of this battle with your family and get in battle mode with your cancer....that is your real enemy.........not your sister.........don't take your anger about the cancer out on her..........right now you have anger displacement.........it's ok.....I doubt you have real control over it...........but try and understand.......your sister is probably very afraid for you but you attacking her over her response to your cancer is not going to get you the support from her that you desperately need............
shokk
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shokk....sound advise....cancer has consumed my thoughts....i remind myself everyday that everyone has some sort of problem that to them is just as consuming..i feel sad that my children don't want to bother me with their concerns...b/c...after all....i have/had cancer...that sucks.
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Thanks to all for your advice and support. Shokk - I have to say the reason their remarks hurt so much is because I haven't been talking about my caner and consummed by it. I talk about it when asked but I don't bring it up or talk about it - even though it's always in my mind. I have focused on other things - my kids, my home, finding my husband a new job, etc. Their comments came out of the blue the first time I talked to or saw them since the diagnosis.
I have realized I'm not going to their level and I really am just moving them to the side until this is all over - I don't need or want them in my life at this time. As far as holidays are concerned the only one we spend together is Christmas Eve and it's at my Mom's house - which is attached to my home through a mud room - I've decided when they come i will just go to my house and wait for them to leave - the stress of being around them will not be good but I don't want others to miss out on the holiday.
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Dear Kristen,
I am so sorry you have to go through the cancer and the family drama as well. I know exactly how you feel. You need to become very focused on yourself and if your anything like I thinkyou are, you may think that is selfelsh of you. But it is not. You have to beat this, no one else can do it for you. They are nieve to what cancer does to your body, MIND and spirit. Surround your self with positive people, call on them for support and encouragement. Talk to people who are genuine in knowing your dx, treatment, feelings. I started blogging about my cancer, you can check it out at www.caringbridge.org/visit/pattyfitzgerald1
It has really helped me. I will not upset you with my own husband and sister have done to me. You can private message me if you want to talk. Just know you did not cause this, you certainly didn't ask for it. I agree do not post anything on facebook, it will just mae you look as low as your family. know that cancer strikes everyone around us, it helps us see who really is thee for us, and who really just wants the drama and attention for themselves. I will always be here as a "sister" to you if you need one. (((hugs)))
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I have found that when a family member or friend acts like this, I release them from my life. I don't call them, I don't try to reconcile, I just move on with my life as though they were never in it. I don't hold any grudges against them. I release them to the universe to do whatever they please... just not with me.
Unless you are willing to do this, you will continue to be bullied by these people who get some kind of sadistic pleasure out of it. They are small people who somehow get a feeling of power and control by treating others in this manner. Don't allow them to occupy space in your head, or sap your energy that is needed for healing.
I send you prayers and all things positive!
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Shokk - you gave some great advice -and it's because of the fact that life goes on that you can't give in to all the drama and turmoil you are facing right now. My husband said I always used to one up him - he had a back ache I had cancer - your family may be just scared to death right now and not be able to show you - stay strong and be kind to yourself -
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Kaara -- wonderful post and great advice! Thank you -- this is what I've done with certain family members as well.
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Thank you ladies - through all your advice I have been able to let go of all (well so far most) of my anger towards her and her family. I decided to follow some advice and start a journal - Cancer -the good the bad and the ugly. I sent the link with the following email to my family (not my sister) and friends and gave them the choice to listen or not.
So the girls on my cancer board have had some wonderful suggestions for me and doing a journal/update site was one, so here you go! Be prepared for bold and honest insight into my journey - please only read it or follow it if you are interested in what I have to say - if you are not, I'm not offended, I just know so many have checked in with me that it's difficult to update everyone. Also, there is so much good and bad to cancer that in order to focus on the good you have to let go of the bad so that is what I will be doing here along with sharing all of the good which has been amazing!
I don't want to bore people with talk of my cancer so this way you have the choice of listening or not, I choose not to talk about my cancer unless asked. I understand that many people will have their own opinions of me and how I deal with things - this is fine, but please save any negativitiy until this journey is over - I hate I have to ask that, but unfortunately I do.
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kristenday
Love to all,thank you ladies for putting my focus back where it should be!
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Kayce234,
Kaara has given you the best guidance for peace of mind
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Kayce234,
Kaara has given you the best guidance for peace of mind
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I never had a sister so I never really understood the dynamics of sister relationships until I had two daughters.........I thought that since they were almost 6 years apart that they wouldn't compete with each other.......I could not have been more wrong........I think sister relationships are very complex........when they are good they are the best and when they are not it seems to hurt more.....
I personally do not think it is a good idea to cut your sister out of your life......there may come a time when you two may really need each other........no matter how toxic your relationship may be....
and whether you think it or not you and your sister will both be bitter about each other.....and bitterness is worse on your soul then cancer is on your cells...........
Kristen I understand your feelings are very hurt by your sisters behavior........and saying someone gets cancer for attention is just stupid........and downright mean.......but it sounds like your sister is also very scared ...........
you may want to considered as you drive along the breast cancer journey to keep the people that make you feel safe very close.......and for boneheads like your sister (is acting) and her boneheaded husband.......try your best not to take it to heart.......if I were would you I would be as nice as possible........if you stay in your home and not participate in holiday activies that will give your sister power that she really doesn't deserve.....if you treat her with kindness even though she is being a little shit it will say much more about you and take away any power she has over you and your feelings......... of course this is JMO.......
shokk
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Hey Kristen
I think everyones said it all above with some great advice, just remember we are all here to support you when you need it xxx -
I think Kaara's advice is wonderful - I am just now learning to do this in my own life. My sister (11 years older) has always been VERY, VERY, VERY self-centered. We have maintained a relationship only because I put in all the effort. Since I was diagnosed 18 months ago, she has not once called to see how I was doing. I had one conversation in which I told her how hurt I was by this, and her response was that she was "busy", so she couldn't call. I no longer call her - I have no animosity, but I have realized I cannot maintain a relationship on my own, with no effort from the other person. It is difficult for me to quit trying to "save" dysfunctional relationships, but I'm learning.
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agree that Kaara's advise is sound. I have learned to rid my life of toxins whenever possible. so sad when family members are so cruel. hang tough my friend and lean on us. If you ever want to talk, feel free to PM me. hugs to you, sweetie.
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I have a brother who did the same thing to me. I talked with a therapist ( I needed one desperately) and was advised to NOT let my brother in to my life until he learned how to be decent to me. Advice which I followed and am happier for it. You have to take care of yourself right now, that includes your mind and body. don't let them push you. It seems as though your husband is supportive and that is what matters the most. Hang in there.
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Kayce,
The same thing happened to me. My sister and I were at odds already before being dx. She felt that this gave her the opening she needed to get back into my life and start telling me what to do like she always did. I told her that my immune system was shot, probably from constantly batlling with her and my other siblings about nothing that matters, and please give me time to go thru chemo and heal. I told her I needed to not have contact until I was strong enough because my immune system would only break down more if I continued to fight with her. That put her over the edge and she called everyone she could think of and told them what an ungrateful B.... I was. I was so hurt I cried for days. I realize now that it was the best thing I could have done. Not to be vindictive but to focus on me-which contrary to what she believes I haven't done in a very long time. I raised 3 boys and you naturally become selfless when you are a mom.
I did try writing a letter and the response once again was to tell the rest of the family what a drama queen I was. I realized I was fighting a battle I would never win. Although we are blood relaives we cannot be friends.That is the bottom line. She is toxic to my well being.
Accepting that she disliked me so intensely and without good cause was/is very hard for me to accept and makes me want to fight till she see's the truth. But I know now she never will and the only one who suffers is me. Hurt after hurt after hurt. I have added her to my prayer list and ask God that she will one day be able to understand my hurt and despair thru all of this.
My cousin was just dx with stage IV ovarain cancer and it tears me up to see the outpouring of love and support from her. What makes me so bad? Am I not loveable? I am 51 years old and have struggled with this issue all of my life. I remember laying in bed crying at nite at 7 years old wondering why my sister hated me so much.I will never understand it but I can keep my immune system from failing and allowing cancer into my life again by staying away.
It is hard and it hurts but for me it's what I had to do. Think about how this affects you because you can't change them. Love and peace of mind - Carol
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A friend gave me some good advice..when people misbahave as your family so obviously is..tell them "BITE ME!" Kacye- right now it is ALL ABOUT YOU..end of story! remember all your sisters here love you!
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Family can hurt us like no one else. My youngest sister tore into me - out of the blue - and told me I was self-centered! I guess cancer can do that to you. I thought my diagnosis of breast cancer would rally the troops - wrong, wrong, WRONG! The same sister "took over" my appointment with the oncologist - asking him about the possibility of cancer from having been on the pill so long. I thought she was accompanying me to the appointment for support - NOT!
You know what? You are right - your health is more important than anything else. You focus on what you have to do and leave toxic people to argue with themselves. I remember reading somewhere "of course your family pushes your buttons - they installed them!" You can't stop them but you can and SHOULD ignore them.
As Kelley said - we love you!
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I love that Kathleen - "of course your family pushes your buttons - they installed them!"
I can't compare one person's experience to another person, but I suspect it is harder for people to have a severe illness and a family who doesn't understand than to have one that does. At least with a family who understands, you don't feel so alone.
My sister passed away last summer from cancer (not breast), but we never got along. I got a lot of flak for not visiting her and not going to her funeral, but we just never got along. I had to separate from her because I knew she would ask me for things I simply couldn't provide (as in hundreds of thousands of dollars.) Over a decade ago, before she got cancer, she was complaining about the food I brought over when I was visiting her (I brought the wrong color of apple- 'We don't eat Green Delicious apples, only Red ones.' I should have known her food preferences somehow. She wouldn't even offer me a drink of water, I had to ask for some.) Yes, she had a very serious disease, but she was a black hole; even if I gave her everything I had it wouldn't be enough. I was to give, give, give, and she was to take,take, take.
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In my Madea voice:
Some people are only meant to be in your life for a season anf d for a particular reason. Just like a tree you have your leaves that come and go with each season, let them. Then you have those branches that look sturdy but will break on you every time you try to step out on them. You also have those people that may not be as sturdy but they are truly trying keep those people around because at least they are trying to change for you. Lastly you have those people that are like the base and roots of the tree, strong and enduring these are the people you want to fill you life with, even if it is only one or two of these type of people trust me it will be enough.
My other favorite quote is by Maya Angelo: If someone shows you who they are....believe them!!!! Your family has shown you who and what they are......believe them, forgive them, and move on. Just my two¢ -
You have to take care of yourself - remember that. Don't let anyone into your "emotional-self" who is toxic. You can't change or control them - so protect yourself. This forum and keeping a journal will be excellent therapy. There are things you can't talk about to anyone else except here on the forums. They have gotten me through the last 9 months.
((((gentle hugggs))))
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