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  • SAB
    SAB Member Posts: 1,498
    edited September 2011

    Thank you Sherryc! It's hard to change a lifetime of bad diet.  I've always exercised and then stopped off at the doughnut shop on the way home!  

    Has anyone tried acupuncture/pressure for fatigue?  My sis-in-law wants me to go. 

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited September 2011

    SAB,

    I just completed 10 sessions of acupuncture. I think it helped to regain my lost energy from treatment. After a couple of treatments I felt very tired and when I googled se's of acupuncture, this is one of the se's. In fact, symptoms can worsen prior to improving.  Towards the end of my 10 weeks sessions, I noticed a huge improvement.

    My acupuncturist said to wait a month to see if my energy level goes down and perhaps then do the occasional session. But so far I am feeling great.

    PS, I walk the golf course, (no power cart) and sometimes I carry my clubs on my back, if the weather is not too hot. Oh, and two weeks ago, I played 6 games consecutively without feeling exhausted.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2011

    My son, who is on a talk radio station in Toronto, is becoming the new host for an Expert Hour on nutrional advice.  He is actually asking me for a quick course in the subject.  He really knows nothing.  This should be interesting!

  • SAB
    SAB Member Posts: 1,498
    edited September 2011

    Painterly, No wonder you drive over 230! I don't know anyone locally who uses acupuncture.  What do you think the top few questions are that you should ask a practitioner before letting them skewer you?

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited September 2011

    PiP, give him the breast cancer survivor synopsis of all you have learned and he will know more than most of them on the air now.

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited September 2011

    SAB,

    We met an acupunturist while on vacation and she advised us to look for an acupunturist who

    • belongs to the association of acupunturists.
    • Studied several years in the field and has not just done "a crash course"
    • does not do acupunture as an "add on" to their other profession. i.e.  acupunture is their field of expertise. 

    As far as point no. 1 goes....my daughter lives in London, England and I want her to go to an acupunturist for her cramps and migraines, but over there, acupunturists do not have to belong to an association,  there is no regulation, so you don't know who you are getting.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2011

    He gave me a link to their website and it does refer to "early stage" cancers as being treated with alternative.  Of course, we know it isn't a black and white discusion.  If only it were that simple.Frown

    On the other hand, my son was a tad hung over from his birthday party last night.  I made him some ginger green tea to calm his tummy as he mocked me.  Guess what?  It worked.  It was like a light went on for him. 

  • calamtykel
    calamtykel Member Posts: 1,187
    edited September 2011

    Pinkbutterfly - hopping on here regarding your yoga question.  My kids have a Wii and I bought Wii Fit Plus with a balance board for it.  TONS of yoga and it can tell if you're doing it right or wrong since you're holding the remote and/or on the board!  I love it!  I don't know if it's an option for you, but WIi's are fairly reasonable right now, especially the refurbished ones from Gamestop -- as are the balance boards and it would be a long term investment.  It's divided into yoga, strength training, balance and aerobics.  You can "go running" and it clocks your pace, you can play games such as hula hooping, etc.  It's a lot of fun.  then you can add exercises you like to your "daily routine" -- yoga, etc.

    When you want, it will measure your weight and balance on the board.  It's fun!

    Funny ,as I'm reading this thread I'm having a artisan lettuce salad, apples, pineapples, almonds with lemon and olive oil.  :)  Not a day goes by without my salad!

    About the spinach and Popeye - yup, spinach was hailed as a super food in the 1920's and 30's!  Even Shirley Temple had a movie song called "You Gotta Eat Your Spinach, Baby".  :)  It was recognized for its high iron and vitamin content especially for children.

    I like it combined with other lettuces; this year I grew collard greens which are sort of like spinach.  Now that the garden is pretty much gone, I"m daily juicing what's left of the kale along with dandelion greens picked from all over my property (easy, free - and if you use no pesticides, it's a great source of nutrition!)  Dandelion greens are super rich in everything, but they are bitter, so not everyone can stomach the juice.  :) 

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited September 2011

    Dandelion leaves and greens go figure. I spent all my time trying to kill them, and I should have been eating them.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    I made this spinach pesto with walnuts over whole wheat pasta yesterday. Best thing I've had in a long time! My family even abandoned their (white) spaghetti in favor of this. Thanks for the inspiration.

    What else are you ladies hiding up your sleeve?

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited September 2011

    Pink: spinach pesto sounds great. I used to think that pesto had to be made with basil. Then one day I had a surplus of arugula and looked online for recipes and discovered it too could be used to make a pesto. It was great.

  • forwardprogress79
    forwardprogress79 Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2011
    It's fascinating how complementary treatments are becoming more mainstream.

    As a yoga teacher, I'm starting to see yoga incorporated into the hospital setting for breast cancer treatment and other forms of cancer.  I don't teach in hospitals  but am interested in the mind-body connection and the outcomes associated with yoga as a complementary treatment.  Of course, we still need to evaluate the response to any treatment according to the individual patient just as we do (on a less serious level) during yoga class with adjustments to students.  As they say in yoga..."begin where you are today".

    I'm honored to share and grateful to gain knowledge in this community.

    Namaste
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    I just read on MSK that turmeric can potentially decrease the CYP2D6 enzyme responsible for converting tamoxifen into the active metabolite.  However, they don't list it as being contra-indicated with tamoxifen.

    Anybody heard this, or been advised about it?

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited September 2011

    pinkbutterfly first I have heard do you have a link to what you read?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Here it is, hope I have pasted it correctly.

    OK, it won't paste, but I have copied it here:

    http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69401.cfm

     Also says it is a weak phytoestrogen.

  • ricia
    ricia Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2011

    Sherryc: turmeric is listed here as beneficial when taking Taxol (chemo), but patients are discouraged from taking curcumin supplements: http://foodforbreastcancer.com/articles/what-should-breast-cancer-patients-eat-during-taxol-(paclitaxel)-chemotherapy?

    that appears to find harmony with what you found at that link, if i'm not mistaken?

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited November 2011

    Interesting article on the side bar here regarding  vaccine trials. Targets immune system, hmmm...

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