Taxotere is a nightmare

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  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited July 2011

    Susan, I had my hair styled like my wig also, so that when I had to wear it, I wouldn't look dramatically different as I was teaching and didn't want to deal with 150 students asking lots of questions.  It worked pretty well, and I had a hair-cutting party, got a crew cut about a week after T/C #1 because I didn't want to do it while my DH was out of town, and didn't want to have the falling out in clumps thing. Made it as much fun as I could.

    One thing I was not prepared for was how sore and painful my scalp was until my hair grew back. I used sunburn lotion with aloe and lidocaine, which helped a little, but just a plain nonscented body lotion worked best. I also got a very soft cotton wig liner (called it my "head stump sock" as it looked like a stump sock that people wear when they have an amputation) which really helped keep the wig from irritating my scalp more - the thin nylon ones just didn't help as much.

    Good luck!

  • Liane
    Liane Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2011

    Hi Ladies,

    I started TC 3 days ago and the first couple of days were easy.  I even went out to dinner the night of chemo, went to a get together the next day and lunch.  But today was different.  I was so tired and slept all day long.  My ears hurt and and I twinge-like pain running through my whole body.  It's tough sleeping so I take pain meds just to sleep. 

    Tracie23-Can I ask you how you have 0/4 nodes and mets?  I am new to all of this and do not understand.

  • Silia
    Silia Member Posts: 330
    edited July 2011

    Susan -  I had a rough reaction to Taxotere #1 so the onc reduced my dosage for #2 and #3 (I have one more on 8/5).  My reaction to the reduced dosage is significantly better (thank goodness) but still dealing with my nails falling off, my mouth being hypersensitive, etc.

    This is a helpful thread.  Funny, I avoided it for the longest time because the title frightened me (and I knew I'd be getting Taxotere after the AC!)

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited July 2011

    Thanks all. I actually am still on the liquid diet and the mouth ulcer in my cheek looks bigger. I asked the oncologist about an Rx the periodontist recommended even though it is a steroid- a paste- you pat on the sore. She said ot go for it becasue at this rate I am an overweight person drinking ensure and talking without trying to move the right side of my tongue. I think the lower doasage will help but jsut hope this will clear up. the onc said I should start diflucan day 1 of chemo and take it for 7 days as she feels we ahve targeted my "hit" area. I went to wrok today- 6 hours and I did OK but am wiped out...hard to be a therapsit and not want to talk..m clietns aren't used to ah-hmmm from me.

    Got to get my wig...working longer days the enxt 3 so hope to pick it up Friday.

    All of you, I hope you feel as  good as you are able and the support of all of us here in this together.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited July 2011

    Liane.. I don't know Tracie's situation, but cancer can spread thru the blood too... if someone did not have clean margins, it could spread to other parts of the body and skip the nodes altogether.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited July 2011

    I was on reduced dose of taxotere right from the start. I didn't handle the first half (FEC) very well.  My first tx was reduced 10%, then the second another 10% and the third remained at that level.

  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited September 2011

    Just checking in to see how my taxotere buddies are doing.  I FINALLY am getting some relief from the neuropathy - changed PCP and she has been wonderful, persuaded me to try "just one more medicine, low dose" and it has mad a world of difference! I am taking Effexor and using a topical cream specially compounded with 3 medications, and am about 75-85% better.  Hooray!!  Still having fatigue, but have local recurrence already, so that might explain the continued fatigue.  Am headed for BMX in a few weeks, have good attitude and fighting spirit.

    Hugs to you all, hoping all those nasty SEs are becoming remote memories.

    Linda

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2011
    Linda sorry about the local recurrence. Good luck with the BMX. It isn't so bad. The worst part of the BMX was the nodes which I assume you don't have to do. Are you going for reconstruction?
  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited September 2011

    Lago, I have missed you!  How are you doing???

    Actually, I DO have to do the nodes - probably should have done them before, but with lumpectomy & chemo, there was no evidence that taking nodes prolonged life, but I guess I was one of the outliers for that study.  Most likely not going for reconstruction - don't really want to have more procedures, am so small-busted it probably won't make much difference anyway, not sure I would like the feel of something that is "not me"... having a really tough time with the idea of numbness and possible arm problems anyway, but am getting through the planning pretty well. Just tried to "bargain" my way into another lumpectomy, but BS says not an option, and I know she is right.  I just have to suck up, get brave again, and do battle, maybe a little more aggressive than I was before.  They all seem to think I am still "curable" if we get aggressive now, so that's what I am doing.  I know the recovery is probably a lot quicker then chemo was!!!

    Best wishes and hugs,

    Linda

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2011

    Linda you'll be fine even with the nodes. Numbness isn't so bad. I worry about stuff that hurts not the stuff that doesn't.

    I was small too. A very unfull A/B cup… but I'm a big girl now. I think I'm sporting C cups. I never was bothered by my small breasts but I must say my new boobie prizes do look good on me. My mom loves the new size on me.

    I never had the problem of tops pullingon my chest but now I do. I'm learning how to dress these boobies prizes.

    BTW if you change your mind about reconstruction you can always do it later. Others have done it years later.

    BTW I'm doing great

  • Cathy_C
    Cathy_C Member Posts: 61
    edited September 2011

    I will be starting Taxotere w/herceptin on 9/19. I started with AC DD and did fairly well with minimal SE (#1 & #2 fatigue and heartburn #3 add dehydration and #4 add low RBC) My last AC was on 8/19 and I persuaded my MO to allow me to start Taxotere after 4 weeks. Well the day is approaching very fast and I am extremely nervous. The Onco nurses told me Taxotere is easier than AC, but after reading the posts UGH! I saw a couple of post that it was ok and I know chemo affects everyone different, but that does help my nerves. I guess I will just have to wait and see what happens to me.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2011
    Cathy I know a gal that had the same cocktail & onc as me (6 rounds of Taxotere, Carboplatin & Herceptin). Other than her hair falling out and some minor taste change after her last TX she had no SE. You just never know.
  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited September 2011

    Cathy... its true everyone is different... I started a thread on here called taxotere toolbox... maybe have a look... people have contributed as to what helped them avoid SEs.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    My brain is too fogged to remember if I've ever posted on this board, but in case I haven't, let me add my two cents to say that Taxotere is indeed a nightmare. A/C sucked because I felt like a physical wreck, but this Tax does something different, deeper, darker, to the mind. I am 5 days out from my last treatment, and as I am writing this I realize my mouth is hanging open. Picture Stephen Hawking.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Let's see. Not much hair, pained expression, brains trapped in body that has rebelled, others saying, "Are you in there?"

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited November 2011
    windlass - Are you old enough to remember the Star Trek episode with Captain Pike called The Menagerie?  Tax is tough, no question.  I had to figure if it knocked me for a loop just think what it is doing to any wacko cancer cells that might still be in my body!!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    HAha, Omaz - good point. As my muscles twitch and jump, and my eyes are winking and jiggling, I envision every twitch is a cancer cell dying.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited November 2011

    Hi all - I'll be starting chemo, probably early next month. I'm curious to hear from those of you who had neuropathy on Taxotere. My onc originally was going to have me do A-C followed by dose dense Taxol, but when we talked about my fencing and violing playing, she felt the Taxol risk of neuropathy was too high and suggested I do Taxotere instead... I'm not looking forward to any of this, but I did like her and her approach. Thanks for the heads up about what's in store.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011
    Hi, Rachel: I've had no neuropathy at all. I believe it's from taking Acetyl L Choline faithfully throughout my treatment.
  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited November 2011
    rachelvk - I started with neuropathy after the very first infusion.  Each time it got a little worse and would get slightly better before the next treatment but overall it was cumulative.  I took B6 and L-glutamine and they probably kept it from being worse, I don't know.  I had mostly numbness and tingling, not pain fortunately.  Not everyone gets neuropathy, depends on your individual suseptibility.  I had previous spinal surgery and the neuropathy was more noticable on the side affected by that surgery.  I still have numbness and I am about 1 year out.  I think you could start and see if you get any problem and then decide what to do.  Most women don't get neuropathy.
  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited November 2011

    rachelvk, I, like Omaz, had neuropathy symptoms from the first dose.  Initially my face felt awful, teeth tingled, very mild tingling in one finger on left hand.  That was Oct, 2010.  It is now Nov, 2011, I was only able to complete 3 cycles with taxotere (docetaxel), and still have tingling, numbness in fingers, am unable to play piano (previously my passionate hobby), have difficulty doing sustained computer keyboard work (mandatory for my work).  I tried multiple medications, all with serious adverse effects, and am finally stabilized on low dose Effexor and a topical medication. 

    Some women do not get any side effects or neuropathy at all.  I would suggest that if you go for it (and it IS a very effective cancer drug!!!), just go one dose at a time, pay attention to it, and STOP it if you have any early signs.  My MO just didn't believe I was having neuropathy initially because I could still "do my buttons" after the first dose, so gave me full dose on #2, then told me reduced dose on #3 should be OK.  It wasn't. But it sounds like your MO is at least aware that you can have these effects, and will probably be very watchful and change approach earlier rather than later.

  • Omaz
    Omaz Member Posts: 5,497
    edited November 2011
    Linda - the button test is inadequate to say the least!
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited November 2011
    My left heel started to get numb after TX2 but then resolved until TX6. I also had some numbness in my fingers (left hand) after TX2 but it resolved. I never got it again because I did take Acetyl-L-Carnitine after TX2. I still have some nueropathy in my left heel but it is getting better. It was never terrible. I mean I still wore high heels and didn't tip over.Tongue out
  • Linda-n3
    Linda-n3 Member Posts: 2,439
    edited November 2011

    Omaz, I told the MO that a better test is whether you can do your jewelry.  I couldn't put on my own necklace or bracelet after 2nd cycle.  I am hopeful that I will eventually get back to my music - I am finally able to actually type and do documents without resorting to the voice-recognition dictation software, and I only have mild tingling with it, no pain.  Each day gets better by miniscule amounts, but when I see where I've been, the progress has been astounding!

    lago, you crack me up! Those high heels are dangerous!!!!  Wink  Didn't you have some nail problems, too?

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited November 2011

    Yes every nail nail problems. Still not recovered fully but the toenails don't hurt. I don't wear spikes though or 4" heels. Nothing higher than 3" but usually more like 2-2.5". I like that really long leg look.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited November 2011

    Just lost all that I wrote.. UGH.

     Rachel... chemo is different for everyone... I read all the posts and prepared for the worst, and had few problems.. other women have to stop chemo due to teh severity of their SEs... so listen to your body and be ready for all of it, and hopefully get none of it.

    I really did not have neuropathy, except at night aometimes my feet would get numb, but not during the day.. and I would shake them out and it was fine... I also got a little numb in my hand when I slept, but that is gone too.... They thoug that was from the MX as it started after chemo right after MX... so I think something was getting pinched while sleeping... but my feet were for sure during chemo...My MO suggested B50 complex.. so maybe it worked??

    Also, my teeth got sensitive after the 1st infusion for a coupe of weeks, but only came and went.. Oddlt, about 2 weeks ago (6 months post chemo) I had the teeth sensitivity again.. seems ok today, but I worry that it may have weekend my teeth... and it was most sensitive on my veneers... those teeth are thinner (thats how they prep the teeth.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited November 2011

    Thanks for the input. It is so nervewracking not knowing until you're actually in the middle of it - but I'll definitely start making a list of things to counteract the potential side effects.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2011

    rachelvk - half this battle is figuring out the SE and what to do for them.  The beauty of these threads is the ladies who have gone before you have identified the potential problems and what they did to solve them.  You may also find that things that bothered you initially, don't happen again later!  Just keep adjusting and you will be fine!

  • Cathy_C
    Cathy_C Member Posts: 61
    edited November 2011

    Next Monday 11/21 I go for my forth and last Taxotere. Taxotere was harder for me than the dose dense A/C. With A/C I just slept, with Taxotere the hot flashes are driving me up the wall and sleep only happens with a pill. As for my hands and feet, after the 3rd Taxotere and at that a week later I had some pain in the pads of my fingers.Thankfully that passed. Some of the hairs on my head have started growing, about 1/4 inch. Oh and have some numbing on the big toe of my right foot, but doesn't hurt just odd. Excited to finish the chemo portion of my fight.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited November 2011
    Rachel.. I made a list of solutions and is on the thread Taxotere Toolbox..  things you can do to prevent some SEs

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