November 2011 Rads

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  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited November 2011

    Elizabeth 18 Do you use 100% emu oil. What brand? I am going to use aloe but may switch if others think the Emu more effective.

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited November 2011

    Elizabeth 18 What brand of Emu oil do you use? Is it 100 % emu oil?

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited November 2011

    ptdreamers, I used a brand called Progressive and it was labeled 100% emu oil.  It worked very well for me and I hope you have the same results.

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2011

    Hello to the group. I started Radiation on October 27 and will have 30 treatments total. Hopefully this will all be over by December 8th (looking forward to that day). I thought I would jump in here since I have been lurking during other months.

     My experience so far...after 7 treatments...is not too bad. I did develop redness, bumps and itching after just 3 treatments under and between my breasts. When I brought it up to my RO, they thought I might be getting a yeast infection, but after reading posts here, I wonder if that is true. I am not sure my RO is up front with me as my MO is.

    The redness etc. only happens about 1/2 hour after treatment and usually goes away by the next morning. I am large breasted and have been using Biofine and dusting with cornstarch/baking powder afterward. I have found the itching has been lasting longer with each treatment and have stopped using the cornstarch under the breast. I have found some relief when applying pure aloe vera gel after my shower. I noticed last night that I have some peeling in my underarm but have not really been applying the Biofine there. Hopefully all of this is not an indication that I will be having more severe reactions as this goes on.

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited November 2011

    Just got back from first treatment. Not bad at all. Slathered on the aloe right after. Also stopped at Target and got a couple of tank tops. Thanks for that tip.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Today was my 5th treatment.  It takes about 30 min. each time.  I have 11 more to go.

    They had a nutritionist talk to me after about 3rd treatment.  She said to eat broccoli, cauliflower, onions, garlic, and cabbage.  She said to lay off the sweets.  Just eat Canola or Olive oil. Eat fruits, lean meats.  NO GREEN TEA.  No multi-vitamin. no vitamin A, C, E

    She said to exercise.  Walking is great.  I need to start.

    I have a 1 hr trip each way.

    I haven't burned yet.  Everything seems fine.  The hospital gave me some medication to start using today.  Use after rads & before bed.  They told me not to use any other creams. 

    I hope everyone is doing good.

  • dsnydawn
    dsnydawn Member Posts: 175
    edited November 2011

    Hi Ladies..I went for my "dry run" yesterday and will be starting today for 28 treatments...actually getting nervous (just thought of radiation) guess after 1st time I'll know what to expect.  Are any of you going to be taking tamoxifin (sp?) for 5yrs after??  That is my MO plan for me.  But my question to him was being that my cancer was 100% hormone fed, should I have my ovaries removed?  His answer was that is one choice and then I could take another pill with less side effects for the 5 yrs or second choice is I could get a shot to put my ovaries in a "dormant state" and take those other pills with less side effects or just take tamoxifin....any thoughts

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited November 2011

    Hi Dawn - I started taking Tamoxifen before rads and I plan to take it for the next 5 years. A new study came out demonstrating that women who took it for 5 years were protected against cancer for 10 or more years, so that sounds pretty good to me. I don't know how old you are, but I felt that I was WAY too young for surgical or chemical menopause. Some women have side effects on Tamoxifen, but not all. Now compare that to the side effects of early menopause...younger women need estrogen to protect us against heart disease and a whole bunch of other things. Tamoxifen only blocks estrogen very partially, to protect you against hormone-positive cancers, but it lets you enjoy the good benefits of keeping estrogen in your body naturally. 

    Good luck today! I felt a little better about rads after I finally got started. At least you will know what to expect every day, more or less. Also, it should take a LOT less time than your dry run because they take X-rays on your dry run day. And you are going to start to see some familiar faces, as the week goes on. Aren't you glad that you can maybe knock out 4 out of your 28 treatments this week? You will only have 24 left, and you will be finished before the holidays.

    I will say that I am having more side effects so far from the radiation than from the Tamox, but I guess it varies widely from person to person. I started exactly a week ago, so this afternoon will be number 6 for me (out of 30). My radiated breast was irritated during my morning run, so I may have to start wearing a thin t-shirt between my skin and my bra when I run. My breast looks like it has gotten sun and it's swollen and tender. It's red all the time - even first thing in the morning after a good nights sleep. It's no big deal so far, but I am glad that I only have  2-3 more tx this week, because I'm traveling for work on Thur. 

    Suzanne - good luck with that diet! I have to confess I am using rads an excuse to pig out on whatever I want (and subsequently watching my weight creep up). At my rads center, I see information about a nutritionist that is available, but nobody has suggested I talk to one yet. Or talk to a social worker, either, for that matter (other women on here have been approached by SW during rads).

    Nat 

  • dsnydawn
    dsnydawn Member Posts: 175
    edited November 2011
        Nat- Thanks for the info ...btw I'm 40 (got my diag just b4 my 40th bday..)  I was also hoping that because of my MX I wouldn't feel burning?? (I don't have much feeling in the breast)  guess I'll find out.  I guess it will def go quicker than chem..like you said by friday I'll be 1/4 of the way thru!!!  Are you feeling tired at all from the rads?  I was wondering about exercise (not that I've been doing much..but did want to start as my neuropathy has gotten better) 
  • missey29
    missey29 Member Posts: 48
    edited November 2011

    Hello Ladies - I'm new to this group. Still checking in with my August Chemo chicks. Just finished my last chemo treatments of 4 X TC on October 27. Halleluah!!!

    Next up is 6 1/2 week of RADS beginning Monday, Nov. 14. This will carry me through the last day of the year. What a way to end the year with a bang or zapp! Cool

    Had the first part of my dry run yesterday. Had a CT scan and got tatted up. I hate needles but I survived. The CT scan was a million x's better then the MRI I had when this all started. You can say I have a touch of claustraphobia.  

    Friday, I will have the official dry run at 11:45am. Should take about an hour. I'm anxious to get it over with. My RO is very nice and easy on the eyes. Still weird to have so many people focussed on my breast. So far the techs have been OK. My only issue is with the timing of the RADS. The doctor's office hours are 7:30am - 4pm. Really! I work 8am - 5pm and had to request a work adjustment. It is just another inconvenience throughout this whole ordeal.

    I will let everyone you guys know how everything is going.

    On another note, having DH issues. He seems to think that this whole BC is his fault. He says, "If we didn't get married then you would not have gotten on birth control, and then develop uterine fibroids, and then have a hysterectomy and then take the HRT which caused you to have cancer." He is definitely snowballing. Yell Is anyone else having these issues? The whole thing is making me more emotional than I need to be at this point. Or maybe it is the Arimadex. My Lorazipam needs to hurry up and kick in. hehehehe

    Thanks for reading!

    Missey29 

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited November 2011

    missey, several of us are claustrophobic and we can totally relate on that MRI! I do not need drugs to get through the CT scans and Xrays but you better believe I am going to ask for one next time I need an MRI! And I was just complaining to one of my friends about the "banker's hours" over at my rad onc center, but at least they mine is open 7-4:30. So it's really not that bad, and my work has been really wonderful about my leaving early every day for rads. I chuckled when you said your RO is easy on the eyes because mine is a very strange-looking older man. Like someone's grandpa who likes to wear black socks with sandals on the beach, if you can picture it. And as for the couple issues, we are thinking of trying couples therapy soon, because cancer is a big stressor on any relationship. Apparently, even DCIS.

    Dawn, I am 42 and got my dx a month before my birthday, so I am just a year ahead of you.  I am not feeling fatigue from rads yet, and my RO seems hopeful that I won't feel much at all because I am naturally kind of high-energy. I have slowed down on the exercise somewhat because I am not training for any races right now, but I have managed to do some minimal workouts, just to maintain a bit of cardio and strength. I will say my workouts seem harder and I'm not performing as well as I was before but I think that's more because I haven't been working out as much or as intensely. Also, I'm eating whatever crap I want right now, so that is slowing me down, too.

     As for skin issues, my one friend who is nearly done with rads on her UMX barely had any skin problems at all. Like, less than me and I only had 5 tx and she's had over 20, so you may have a good point. Just nearing the end, she has some tiny blisters near the edges of where she's applying aloe vera, where she wasn't putting it on as thickly. So yesterday I asked my techs what the borders of my field were, so I would know where to apply it. I'm glad I asked because I am not red all over my field, and I was not applying hardly any in some areas that are apparently being radiated, like the side and top of my chest.

    Keep posting, ladies. I love reading about your experiences and I feel a little less lonely on my own journey when I come on here.

    Nat 

  • lilylady
    lilylady Member Posts: 1,079
    edited November 2011

      I did my set-up visit today. My place does not do tats so i have 6 Sharpie marks with tape over them. hoping to get my dry run in on Friday and start officially on Monday..

      Missey29-looks like we are on the same schedule so maybe we can be rads twins. My rads office works 8-4 and my work schedule is 5am to 3:30 so I am going to have wo work something out for that also. I told them I absolutly wanted to be done by the end of the year so hoping they get the plan together and call me to come in on Fri.

      I had a great PET scan last week and even though we had discussed trying to hit some of the nodes around the lungs he and the oinc have decided since they are pretty inactive lets just do the breast for now. I am totally OK with that.

      My RO is really cool. He wears earth shoes and a nehru collar jacket and wooden beads. he hasn't said "Groovy" yet but he look like he might.

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited November 2011

    I had #11 of 30 today. The bottom of my breast and chest area is slightly red with some irritation and itching. I also get occasional twinges of pain in the breast and it feels "heavy". I'm really having issues with bras. They just rub me in the area where the band hits. I have to wear a bra to work. I swear I was fatigued yesterday and today after rads. I normally work 12 hr shifts but had to have my work schedule modified to 8 hr shifts so I can go to rads at 4:00. I just may be adjusting to my new schedule. Besides, my RO was adamant that Rads does NOT cause fatigue at all..........

    dsnydawn..... My MO wants me to take Tamoxifen for 5 years or Tamoxifen for 2 years then Arimidex for 3 years. My mother (age 62) and aunt (age 42) both had lumpectomy, rads, and Tamoxifen for 5 years and have had no reoccurrence after 11 years! Neither had any side effects from Tamoxifen.

  • kdajay
    kdajay Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2011

    M4babies... Have you tried hooking your bra one row looser? I had a friend who did that and it helped.



    Just came back from my 8th treatment and am having discoloration under my breast and some peeling under my arm. I now have a new routine of 10-15 minute compresses with a solution of Domebro's powder in water followed by air drying and then reapplication of Biofine three times a day. I am tired but really did come into this tired from chemo...could be the time difference throwing me off though. Has anyone else had reactions from rads this soon?

  • MrsMot
    MrsMot Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2011

    Missey - I can't tell you how relieved I am to hear that the CT scan is easier then the MRI.  I freaked out during my breast MRI.  I will need a pill for any future MRI's!  Thanks for sharing that info.  Also, big congrats on finishing chemo.  Its a great feeling!  I had to do 6 chemo sessions.  This third week post chemo has finally made me nauseous.  But you did it and I think the worst is over!  Sorry to hear about DH (not sure what that is) but remember, all the meds make you emotional.  

    I will be curious as to how the breast feel after rads from a reconstructed breast.  My new boobs were made out of my belly fat.  So there is no feeling at all.  I am hoping I don't feel any SE's on my right breast (cancerous one). 

  • dsnydawn
    dsnydawn Member Posts: 175
    edited November 2011

    rn4babies - thanks for the info...it's so good to hear 11 yrs...but stinks mom & aunt !!   Have you tried a sports bra that isn't too tight? Or maybe even a cotton shirt under bra, so it doesn't rub?

    MrsMot - I also had DIEP and was wondering the same thing?? guess we'll find out...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Today was my 6th Rad treatment. (10 left)  The medicine they gave me to put on my breast is sticky.  I took an old t-shirt of my husbands and had him draw a big circle on it around my boob.  I cut the circle out, and put the medicine on my boob.  So I am now laying on the couch letting it dry.  It seems to be sticky.  I thought this might be better than letting the sticky get on my shirt.  Rest assured I have a blanket beside me I can throw around myself in-case someone comes over!!  HaHa.  It does look funny-but hey its working.  .....a girl has to do what a girl has to do! (even a 52 yr. old one!)Cool

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited November 2011
    dsnydawn...... Unfortunately, my sister too (age 37), 3 years ago she had a BMX. No further tx. It was just a matter of time for me.
  • dawmson
    dawmson Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2011

    rn4babies - YES fatigue is a very real side effect of radiation. It's mentioned in nearly every article I've read about radiation and my doc said it's probably the #2 side effect after skin reactions. I have been more tired since about week 2 and I sit at a desk all day, so I can only imagine how tired you would be working 8 or 12-hour shifts. 

    Suzanne24 - I used the same trick for sleeping the other night. My breast was feeling itchy so I cut a big hole in one of my husband's shirts. I agree it looks really strange, but hey, whatever gets us through this!

    I just had #20 of 33 today so I'm in the home stretch. Other than feeling tired, my skin is holding up fairly well. Definitely pink but not sore. I've been using Miaderm 4x a day since day 1. I tried Aquafor but it was far too sticky for me.  

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited November 2011
    dawmson...I'm aware that rads can cause fatigue. My mother and aunt can attest to that. I've also read everywhere that it does also. I'm not a fan of my RO. He says very little and almost yelled at me when I asked him about fatigue on my consultation appt. He also was not at all concerned about the fact that my BC was on the left side, close to the chest wall when I mentioned my concern of radiation to my heart  I'm working 2 jobs 8-12 hr days. Not sure how I'm going to hold up.......
  • MrsMot
    MrsMot Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2011
    rn4babies - Can you find a new doctor?  You should be comfortable with your RO.  When I met mine,  she was nice and professional.  She would let me ask any question I had.  She did give me a limp handshake. LOL!  The nurse gave me a hug.  I just love nurses!  Maybe your RO is like a prima donna surgeon...feels he is not concerned about your heart area because he is that good.  But you should be able to voice your concerns!  I love my Onc Surgeon...but he is a bit prima donna.  I wanted someone good though!  Hang in there!!!
  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited November 2011

    Rn4babies, your RO sounds a lot like mine. My tumor was left side, back near chest wall, but he dismissed concerns about my heart. He didn't offer respiratory gating or anything like that, either



    Kdayjay, my skin started turning pink and becoming sensitive from my first tx, even though I've been faithfully slathering Miaderm 4 times a day. After 6 tx, that breast is red and swollen and sore. ESP my nipple- ow! So glad I only have 2 more this week.



    Nat

  • Mandalala
    Mandalala Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2011
    dsnydawn – I started taking Tamoxifen 2 weeks before radiation started two days ago, but the side effects were too much (my tummy went crazy, I lost 3 kilos in 6 days) so I am pausing it now. This kind of SE:s of Tamoxifen doesn't seem to be common, so don't let it scare you away ... But like you, I am considering other ways to go. I'd like to hear from women who had their ovaries shut down what it feels like.
  • dsnydawn
    dsnydawn Member Posts: 175
    edited November 2011

    Is anyone using aloe vera ?  I was giving 100% aloe vera gel..it's sticky until it dries.  And you all seem to be putting it on alot...were you told 4x a day?  I only had treatment yesterday and leaving in few mins for todays.  Do you think it's possible that I could feel tired already?  Last night I was wiped out...but I was also having a slight panic attack(not really) and crying about starting another treatment...well guess I'll see how today goes...hope everyone has a very uneventful day!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • RealtorJackie
    RealtorJackie Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2011

      I had my 7th treatment today, and I had to be remarked.  The physicist looks over the plan every week, and may make adjustments.  I now have new mapping marks on me.  I haven't had too much trouble with my skin so far--which amazes me,  I am very fair, and burn in the sun.  I am using the Aquafor 2x a day.

    Today, I saw a woman at rads that I have been noticing since last week.  She is in excrutiating pain.  Her husband said she is taking all the meds they can give her.  He mistakenly brought her 45 mins, early.  She started to cry because of the pain.  I offered her my earlier appointment, and she was so grateful.

    I bought another cami yesterday.  It is very soft against my skin.  I am glad all of you are doing so well.  Just hang in!

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited November 2011
    Had 3rd treatment today. I use 100% alloe vera. I agree its sticky until dry. I put it on in the morning, after treatment and at night. I have been blotting the one I put on after treatment after a few minutes. I don't want it sticking to my cami because I am afraid that further along it might take my skin with it if I pull on the cami. Other times I let it dry completely before putting on clothes.Smile
  • kestrelgurl
    kestrelgurl Member Posts: 266
    edited November 2011

    Count me in! I am scheduled to start next Thursday. 28 treatments. Looking forward to getting started.

    Surgeon cleared me to start working out again, so that makes me happy. Hoping to be ready for Boston Marathon come April. Smile I can be slow, but I want to be there!

    Gail

  • RealtorJackie
    RealtorJackie Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2011

    ptdreamers:  I had my 7th today, and I definitely notice tiredness--although they are really zapping me--about 15 mins. on a wide field.  I tend to not eat as much when I am tired, and my weight was down this week.  The doctor told me to try to hold my weight as steady as possible.  Easy for him to say!

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited November 2011
    Has anyone used Radiaderm system? Husband just found it. Two part system. First is cooling gel is applied right after radiation and 2nd is lotion four hours later. I be interested in knowing if anyone has any experience with it.Smile
  • momof4girls
    momof4girls Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2011

    Hi everyone!  I started radiation Tuesday and so far so good.  I have a question - I would love to know when the fatigue really sets in.  I have a big meeting Dec. 8 and am wondering if I should push it out until after radiation.  I am worried though that I may still be fatigued even a month or two after I finish.  Anyone out there who might have an idea?  Thanks!

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