August 2011 chemo, anyone w/ me?!

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  • Chrys23
    Chrys23 Member Posts: 291
    edited November 2011

    Hi - I'm over at the FB group too...I hope everyone is doing alright.

    I start RADS today....Not looking forward to the drive to Philly, but I guess I better get used to it! for the next 6 weeks LOL

    Ellen -- Congrats on your store opening!! That's awesome; a lot of work, but I'm sure it's worth it!

  • jbagley
    jbagley Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2011

    I am also over on the facebook page called Fighters. It is not moderated as closely as this site.



    I am a facebook junkie.



    I had my last taxol yesterday. Yay me!!!!! Se not hit yet just tired!



    Jennifer

  • Grimbol
    Grimbol Member Posts: 326
    edited November 2011
    Congrats on the final Taxol, Jenn, I have my 5th tomorrow and I'm so not looking forward to it.  I have been really pretty good now for about 10 days and I don't wanna do it again!!  :(((  Still almost onde, the last one Thanksgiving week and then on to Rads.
  • allformy4
    allformy4 Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2011

    I am going for my 3rd Taxol tomorrow --hoping they will not tell me no as I have a cold and sore throat --since chemo I have been catching everything!!  Good luck to all this week!

  • JMULL
    JMULL Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2011

    Congrats Jenn, on finishing!  YAY YOU!!!

    I am going for my 2nd Taxol tomorrow.  My hands are still incredibly itchy and I am convinced it is from the Taxol, even though the MO's office originally thought it might be from the AC.  Not looking foward to it, but looking foward to being one step closer to being done.

    I searched "Fighters" on Facebook, but nothing comes up.....HELP!  I wanna join the group.

  • JMULL
    JMULL Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2011

    Yay!  Carol, I just found your post with the FB group number.  Please add me:  Jennifer Aprill Mulligan.

    Hugs to everyone and Happy belated Halloween.

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2011


    I was checking in on the weekend and found things quiet. Lots of activity on Facebook though!

    Good luck tomorrow Grimbol, allformy4 and jmull

    Had my 3rd Taxol tx today. Unfortunately, I reacted to the Taxol again. It was short lived and they gave me extra meds and were able to get the Taxol into me. Only one more tx so hopefully I'll get through it.

    My short-term disability benefits run out on December 28. At that point, I estimate I'll be 1-3 weeks into 6 weeks of rads. They sent me all the paperwork to apply for long-term disability but it seems such a waste of time when I expect to be done treatment and ready to return to work in late Jan/early Feb soon after finishing rads. As I expect they will do a gradual return to work anyway, I was wondering if I should suggest I return to work part-time during rads. Ellen, how are you finding things now that you've reopened your store? My job isn't physically demanding but it is very mentally demanding...lots of deadlines, need to make quick decisions that impact lots of $$ on short notice, etc. Not sure what I should do.

  • Lizardbeth68
    Lizardbeth68 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2011

    Hi all, I'd like to be added to the Facebook group if you'll have me.  I'm Elizabeth Nelson Glass on there.

    I have finished my four A/C and today had my second of four (every three weeks) taxol.  I haven't slept well since I started the taxol. Anyone else have this problem? I'm literally trying to drug myself to sleep, Lunesta + Xanex and still I toss and turn. I'm also starting to get strange hot flashes, cold on the back of my neck and hot and sweaty on top of my head!  I wonder why i'm getting the taxol like I am when so many other triple negatives are getting the 12 x.

    I also have been sporting a completly bald head. I have only noticed one or two people blatently smiling at me. I'm my bouncy self and smile at all who meet my eye and they always smile back. I've actually come across some really kind people who have reached out to me because of my bald head.

     Anyway, thought I'd introduce myself. I'm 43, from Overland Park, KS and happily married.

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2011

    Lizardbeth6, welcome to our group! I'm triple negative as well and my regimen is similar to yours but I'm doing dose dense (every two weeks). I had my 3rd of 4 Taxol today. I've had sleep issues since my dx in June. I'm not the world's best sleeper to start with and this hasn't helped. So far, I've resisted taking any meds to help me sleep.

  • Lizardbeth68
    Lizardbeth68 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2011

    I meant blatantly staring at me!!



    Thanks Michelle, yeah, the sleeplessness is no fun. Maybe you could try something natural??

  • edyem
    edyem Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2011

    Hi Lizardbeth68,



    I'm willing to bet the reason that you are having more trouble sleeping since starting Taxol is the steroids (usually dexamethasone) that they administer as a premed along with the Benadryl in your IV. I know it has caused problems for me but at this point I don't want to take another medication. I try to take advantage of the bit of energy that it gives me the first day or so, but the inability to sleep is frustrating. It usually lasts 3 or 4 nights and then it's almost time for the next tx. I've used melatonin and chamomile tea with some success. I hope it gets easier for you soon.

  • Lizardbeth68
    Lizardbeth68 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2011

    You too, E, thanks!! Doc did half my steroids today, so hopefully...

  • allformy4
    allformy4 Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2011

    CoolLizardbeth68  Hi Liz --I get the sleepless nights and the sweating too -could be the whole "going into menopause" thing too.  Did your Dr give you ativan?  that seems to work for me -I hate taking those drugs too, but I always wait until last minute and by then I've made it worse!  Is it still warm in KS?  My head gets so cold now that the weather is cold!

    I don't know the rhyme or reason b/t the 4x taxol or 12xtaxol -the 1st doc I went to sd they would do 12x, this doc is doing 4x -she sd there are no stats stating one is better than the other -I just look at it as getting it done quicker! 

    Michelleo -doesn't LTD pay more that STD?  It may be worth it --my job (who I havent worked for in 5 years) asked me to help them out for their busy season -I did it last year @this time, but I wasn't sure if I could do it.  Well they came back and sd I can work 2-3 days from home!  Hopefully it'll work out, I can certainly use the money for xmas.  How you feeling so far!  I have a terrible cold but they still went ahead -I am OK w/that --1 more to go!!!!! Cool

  • JMULL
    JMULL Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2011

    Second Taxol tx was uneventful for me...so far.  They halved my benedryl dose so my legs wouldn't go all crazy during the tx and the rest went off without a hitch.  The MO NP also said that the horrible achiness in my lower body last time was more than likely due to the Neulasta shot and not the taxol, so they are reducing that dose as well.  We'll see how the weekend goes, I guess.

    She also said that I am lucky enough to be in the 1% that get the hand-foot s/e.  Thus the reason for my burning, itchy hands a feet.  Great!  I said.  The treatment plan for that is to take Zyrtec during the day as that shouldn't make me sleep and benedryl at night.  As long as it's treatable, I guess I am ok with it.  Only 27 more days to go now!!!!

  • dianamaps
    dianamaps Member Posts: 50
    edited November 2011

    Hi everyone. Nice to read through the notes and catch up with everyone's updates. I've been hunkering down and impatiently waiting for the end of this chemo ride. Last Friday was my 2nd Taxotere/Herceptin dose.  Two more to go.  The bad-mouth-feeling and awful taste is the worst of the side-effects. Though today I really messed up and didn't pay attention to some building nausea before it took over...

    I met with the surgeon today to plan and strategize for the BMX, and will talk with a plastic surgeon in a couple of weeks.  I was thinking that waiting for until the spring might be possible, but she's saying it needs to be within 4-5 weeks after chemo ends. I guess that's my plan for January now, but my head is still going to have a hard time dealing with it all...      

  • Taylor777
    Taylor777 Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2011

    Hi Dianamaps- just wondering why your BMX has to be done 4-5 weeks after your chemo ends? I had a left mx but wanted both done at the same time but my BS said she didnt advise doing both incase I got an infection on the non-cancer side then chemo would be put on hold. Now I have to wait till chemo is done to get it done but I didnt know there was a time frame.

  • Chrys23
    Chrys23 Member Posts: 291
    edited November 2011

    JUMLL -- I had itchy hands and feet, but that happened when they switched me over to A/C. With the T/C; I had bone pain, flu-ish symptoms and weak legs. Now that I look back; the T/C was a breeze compared to the A/C. I could eat and somewhat function on T/C. The A/C was horrendous. I'm still dealing with the after-effects. I'm seeing an ENT today.

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2011

    Lizardbeth, I have tried melatonin and it helps a bit. Funnily enough, since my tx on Tuesday, I've slept pretty well. Mind you my husband is sick so I've been sleeping in the spare room to avoid his germs. Maybe that's the secret!  Laughing

    All4my4, no in my case my STD benefits were 100% of my pay since I've been with the company for a long time. LTD will be a reduction but it won't be for long so that's okay.

    Jmull, interesting point about the Neulasta vs. Taxol causing the body aches. I had very little side effects from Neulasta during my AC treatments, but have had the horrible aches and pains since starting Taxol. It's hard to know what's causing it. Luckily, I've avoided the neuropathy so far!

    I'm on Day 3 post Taxol #3 and feeling great. I expect I'll be feeling crummy by late tomorrow or Saturday though!

  • MaryjRN
    MaryjRN Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2011

    Hi ladies,

    I have not posted in awhile.  I've been busy helping a friend with her recent bc diagnosis/lumpectomy/AND.  She will probably start chemo in 3 weeks.

    My MO and I have not decided if I will switch to Taxotare from the Taxol that I am on.  I have 6 weeks left of a 12 week course, but the neuropathy in my toes/feet are present.  I am taking B6, L-Glutamine and L-Carnitine.  I might do 2 (3 week apart) doses of Taxotare. 

    Congrats to all of you that have finished, or are very close to finishing your chemo treatments!  We all started this 'chemo ride' in August and it's November already!  A lot of it is a blur to me.

  • summergirl1
    summergirl1 Member Posts: 182
    edited November 2011

    Hi all, 1 week away from TX 5 so feeling good at the moment , 4 more weeks before my final one yeahh its getting so close, cant believe how quick its gone so far. 

    Taylor777 are you getting MX on other side just for precaution, I was not given that option and now I am reading that my cancer ILC has a tendancy to spread to other breast , so I am going to talk to my surgeon on my next visit and see if he advises it done I DO NOT want to go through this again no way, once is enough for me .

    MaryjRN Im sure your friend is very appreciative for your help , and you are probably the best help to her as you know how she feels . 

  • DebinUtah
    DebinUtah Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2011

    Hey all--it feels like many of us are kind of hunkering down and toughing out these last couple of rounds.  I'm on day 7 of round 5 (of 6), and I'm pretty much just on autopilot, trying to get through the next few weeks without thinking or feeling too much. YaYa5--if you're out there--round 5 (touch wood) has been a little kinder to me than round 4.  I hope the same is still holding true for you. Does anyone out there know anything about 3DCRT partial breast radiation?  You have it twice a day for one week instead of everyday for 6 weeks.  That sounds good to me.

    Blessings and low SEs to all!

  • MizMarie
    MizMarie Member Posts: 332
    edited November 2011

    Hi Everyone,

    Round 4 has been a rough ride for me as well.  I'm 8 days out, and still feel pretty wiped out from doing even normal activites.  My nurse said this is not unusual, and they didn't feel it necessary to do more labs, since I had both Neulasta and Aranesp injections last week.  I guess this is just my life through the end of the year.  December 8 cannot come soon enough!  

  • Taylor777
    Taylor777 Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2011

    Summergirl- I wanted a double mx from the beginning but my BS said she wouldnt advise it just in case my non cancer side gets an infection and then chemo would be delayed. I should have insisted on having them both done in July!! Now I have to wait till Jan. or Feb. I wasnt given that option either it's my choice bec I never want to have to worry about another mmamo again and I never want to have to go through this again!!

  • MaryjRN
    MaryjRN Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2011

    DebinUtah...my BS mentioned it at the first visit.  He would put the catheter in the breast at the same time he was doing a lumpectomy.  When I had a consultation with the RO the next week, she told me that I wasn't a candidate.  I did not ask why, because I had already decided that I wasn't going to pursue that route. 

  • dianamaps
    dianamaps Member Posts: 50
    edited November 2011

    Taylor777 -   the way it's been explained to me is that chemo only gives you protection for a relatively short amount of time.  It's like lice shampoo, poison that is designed to kill all cancer cells that are active then (like lice shampoo kills live lice), but its effects only last a relatively short time.  And after you've used lice shampoo, if you also don't go through and manually remove any remaining eggs/nits (that aren't affected by the shampoo), then more lice can hatch and grow.  So if I have the type of breast tissue cells that show their tendency to turn cancerous and grow tumors, they still need to remove that tissue.  

    So she said that 4-5 weeks is this window of time when you've recovered enough from the side-effects of chemo and your strength may be recovering, but you haven't given cells very much time to start changing again.  I think too that they're being extra aggressive because of how quickly my tumor grew in the 2 months I waited between biopsy and lumpectomy in the spring (it more than doubled in size).  

  • TSB1
    TSB1 Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2011

    Good morning everyone. I hope everyone had a wonderful S/E free weekend. I'm not sure how many people still follow this thread but I'm hoping there are still some of us out there. I went back to work last week on a part time basis. I had a welcome back sign on my locker and a welcome back banner that my co workers signed. I got so many hugs from everyone, I'm surprised I wasn't sore. I worked just a couple of hours Tuesday and was beat. I worked five hours Wednesday and did much better! I had my first of twelve taxols last Thursday and I felt good the next day so I worked. The worst part of the taxol is the floaty feeling I get from the Benadryl. I hate feeling that way. Also I vomited before anything was infused because I could taste and smell the saline and the heparin. From now on, I will sip on some juice when she pushes things.



    The taxol caught up with me on Saturday night when I got the achy bones and felt fluish. Also, I have had stomach cramps for days now. Today seems to be better. I definitely do not have much of an appetite either. Tomorrow it's back to work and Thursday will be taxol #2.



    Have a good day ladies.

  • NWArtLady
    NWArtLady Member Posts: 360
    edited November 2011

    Hello ladies,

    I saw that several of us are having trouble with rough and burning tongues - I have found that if I rinse my mouth out with a combination of water and baking soda (swish and spit) after each meal, that I get great relief from the burning sensation. It has also kept the mouth sores at bay.

    Hope this helps!

  • MaryjRN
    MaryjRN Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2011

    Hi ladies,

    Today, my MO switched me over to Taxotare.  I have recieved 6 doses of Taxol already, but my neuropathy was starting to mildly affect my walking.  Other than that, I've got no other news. Laughing

    Dianna...I like your explanation. 

    TSB...Welcome backs are nice, aren't they?  Glad you are starting to feel better again.

    NWArt...thanks for the baking soda tip.  I'm just dealing with the unpleasant s/e of chemo and forget to look for relief.

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited November 2011

    MaryJRN, glad to hear they were able to switch you over. I haven't found the Neuropathy on Taxol to be too bad so far. I feel it in my feet some days but so far my hands have been okay.

    I didn't find the S/E for Taxol #3 to be as bad as Taxol #2. With #2, I could barely move on Day 5 because I was in so much pain. This time, it wasn't bad. I'm wondering if it's because I received the study drug (or placebo but I'm thinking it's the actual drug) with tx #2 and not with tx #3. I'll have to see what happens with #4.

    TSB1, congrats on the return to work! I miss my co-workers a lot. I go in for a visit every couple of weeks and go out for lunch with the girls. It helps me stay connected with what's going on there.

    I weighed myself this morning and have lost 5 pounds since last week. That's very strange since I've been eating quite well.

    For those with burning tongues, if it turns into mouth sores, ask your ONC for a prescription for Magic Mouthwash. I had mouth sores after my 3rd AC tx and it cleared them up within a day.

  • Taylor777
    Taylor777 Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2011

    Thanks Dianamaps for the explanation.

    TSB1- Thats great that your feeling well enough to go back to work.

    Why do some of us have 4 DD taxol and some have 12 taxol??

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