3 Years finished but still not "over it"
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Okay I went to the cocktail party. It was unbelievable. Diane was unbelievable. So down to earth. It was magical!!! Thank you Thank you Deanna and pickle for encouraging me. I really felt happy! I am trying to post a pic of us. Hope it works!
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Hey Julie,
I started a new book last night "Living Well *Beyond* Breast Cancer" (I think it was written by the founder of BC.org!). In the first chapter she mentions everything you are going through--survivor fatigue, anxiety, worries, a changed life, and how to move on. She talks about having to deal with the "new normal" which is our lives after cancer. I really like what she said in the introduction, and I am going to quote it here: "Remember, the purpose of all that treatment, all your work, was to give you back your life: joy, fun, comfort, meaning, pleasure, security." The rest of the book addresses how to achieve that. I think you should get this book! It is available online at amazon. Like Deanna said, we may never be the same person we were before bc, and living well beyond breast cancer is the new normal for us. The hard part is figuring out what *living well* means to each of us, and actually achieving it.
VickyB
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Wow just saw your pic! So glad you went! And I LOVE your dress!
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I feel your pain. I am on Celexa which helps. Trying to wean myself off of Clonapin, I had really bad panic attacks during this whole thing. I now have a therapist and am working on just getting back to half way to what I was before the diagnosis. My energy levels were low, but depression can paly a major roll with that. Exercising does help, memory loss stinks. Sometimes I will start to say something and can't remember what I was going to stay. I do crossword puzzles and read alot to try and get the brain moving. I wish you well and keep coming here, it helps.
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Julie, love love love the pic! You look beautiful and your outfit is so stylish. So great that you got to mingle with her.
Cheers
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Wonderful photo, Julie! Please tell us more about the evening! I'm so glad it worked out for you and that you were able to conquer your hesitation! Good for you!!!!!!!!!! Deanna
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Hi mumayan,
I was just wondering.. see you are PR - have your Drs said much about thist to you?
Heard tamoxifen works against it and it is more aggressive?
thanks,
Kathy
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mamalou, I wanted to go back and address your post. Thinking about bc all the time is very normal at a certain point in our journey, and that's one reason it's so difficult to get back into socializing, because bc totally consumes our world while we're in tx, and normal activities that others enjoy chatting about just seem so unimportant, because we've been dealing with such bigger, life-changing challenges. But it really does get better.
You mentioned that you're still working on recon. I found that each time I did a followup recon surgery (first Diep Stage II, then nipple recon), I felt like I took a huge step towards being me again. It wasn't something I expected to happen, but each time I felt more of the weight of what I'd been through lifting off me, and a huge step closer to normal. And I'm sure you will, too.
One thing that noticeably helped me at the "post-tx but still dealing with social anxiety" stage was getting away and out of my normal routine (and, yes, even away from BCO) for a long weekend. Somehow, changing the scene and being around new people who didn't know about my bc just seemed to miraculously move me a huge step forward in the process.
But you really need to get your tx behind you before a lot of this makes sense. Reclaiming a non-bc life is a process, and it takes time. But I think you have to be on the other side of tx first for a lot of the emotional weight to lift to find the energy to refocus. So don't be too hard on yourself. The fact that you're aware of and probably don't really want to be a social hermit makes me think you'll figure it out when you're ready. (((Hugs))) Deanna
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Thank you Deanna! You are the most comforting person. I think you are right about everything. I think I am doing pretty darn good at moving forward, taking care of myself, and coping with everything. I think the problem arises when I fall back into the old bad habit of trying to always meet other people's expectations and keep everyone happy. I'm working on being more true to myself, but it is a process.
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Dear wonderful girls,
I just want to say thank you for so many things. This website has literally changed my life. I finally feel like I'm not crazy or weak for not being "over it." But it has also given me hope that I can move on and positive steps to take! I am in therapy and she confirmed I had PTSD. I am not going to dwell on it, though. I am just going to keep trudging through.
Deanna and Victoria B, thank you for the book suggestions. I can't wait to get them. And most of all THANK YOU to those of you who encouraged me to go meet my ICON DVF! I will never forget it and she and I seriously had a connection! I am going to new york in April and she told me to have the store manager set up a tour of the DVF showroom and design studio!!!!! I just need to remember that I just need to push through the social anxiety and I always have a great time!
Dvf was sooooo amazing. One thing that I really took away from her was her life philosophy: "Don't be the woman you become. BECOME the woman you want to BE!" That really inspired me! As you can tell in each picture, I am holding hands with her! I just so admire her! Not to mention her clothes are to DIE for!
So girls, I will continue to log on to get advice from wonderful women who understand. I just feel hope and joy and I haven't felt either in such a long time!!!
Now here are some more pictures. Sorry for those who are bored with my night! LOL!
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Hi ladies, I haven't commented on here since I finished my chemo in April 2011. Finished my rads early June and am now on Tamoxofin for the last 5 months or so. I also take celexa for depression and zopiclone so I can sleep at night. Also have ativan for the bad nights.
I find I am worrying more and more as the time goes by! Whats with that? I think about it every day. I find myself going out less, not returnng phone calls and preferring to be by myself. I told by boyfriend I didn't want to see him anymore a week ago. I know I love him but I just don't seem to be able to feel anything. Does it ever go away?
Not saying I don't do anything, I work at 2 jobs that I enjoy and I have 2 sons that live with me who are 14 and 10 yrs. old. I go to the local swimming pool twice a week and do lengths.
I don't mention my cancer to anyone because I feel like I'm whining over something that should be in the past now. Everyone thinks I am over it and doing great. Nothing could be further from the truth. I feel consumed by it.
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Oh, JMW,
You just practically wrote the script of what happened to me. After I finished my chemo on Feb. 19, 2009, I was on a high. I felt happy and celebretory. My friends had a party for me, etc. etc. I was soooo happy. Everyone thought I was over and done with it (because none of them had ever had cancer) and I did too. That lasted about 3 months. After that, I CRASHED. I was completely depressed, overwhelmed, sad, EMOTIONLESS. It's so funny that you mentioned not returning phone calls from friends, because I did the SAME THING. I just withdrew. And when you said you can't seem to be able to feel anything, WOW! ME TOO. In fact it's become a joke among friends that I am "dead inside" Doesn't sound funny but I have to joke about some of this. But I used to be so emotional and sentimental. I cried at weddings, commercials, watching my kids sing in choir. Now I hardly cry at funerals.
I also think it's interesting that you say you work 2 jobs that you enjoy, your kids, swimming, etc. Me too. I think when I am involved in a project that has nothing to do with cancer, it is a distraction. But it always comes back. I don't know if you read my original blog, but I started this thread because I am 3 YEARS out and still feeling like this. But believe me it has gotten so much better than it was. At 4 months out when I was reeling, people thought I was over it and doing great! It's called smoke and mirrors. We are trained to answer " Great!" when people ask how we are doing. You couldn't go into it and give a 10 minute explanation of how we feel dead inside and are bordering on depression, etc. etc. Can you imagine?
But I am so hopeful for you. I asked these questions 3 years out! You are asking them now! I don't know about you but just feeling validated that I'm not weak for still being this way, or crazy, or whatever.
Also, I got a counselor about a month ago. I feel truly hopeful that this is my road to recovery. She told me I have PTSD. It shed light on everything. Go to the topics and read about PTSD. It's not just for soldiers, which is what I thought!
I refuse to accept this life as my "new normal!" I will feel joy and laughter and emotions appropriately one day. I honestly went probably 1 year without crying ! Even when I needed to! But since counseling, I am crying appropriately. ( well mostly!)
I would strongly suggest getting a counselor. There are so many options for counselors. You might ask on this blog if anyone can reccomend a counselor in your area. Get a woman. She will make you feel so much better.
I want to say you are lucky, but I HATE when people say that to me. All I mean is that, you have sought help now. You have a huge jump on getting through these things!
I could go on and on but I won't. But I will be happy to talk anytime you want.
We WILL get better! I won't accept it any other way!
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Julie, thanks so much for your reply. I have a feeling we are the norm if there is such a thing.Its definately a relief to know my feelings are not just mine! I know what you mean when you say you feel weak or crazy for feeling this way cause I feel weak and pathetic that I am so caught up in this! But you hit bang on when you talked about how happy you were at first when it was all over.... me too! man we had the rest of our lives to live.......then it started creeping back in...WTF?
I am going to my first "cancer survivor" group meeting in 2 weeks. Don't know if its for me but am willing to try it. Have a dr. app. on Monday to ask her for any suggestions. She is an awesome dr. and has already mentioned counselling so will talk about that with her. Thanks again.
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Hi Julie, First of all, sometimes things ARE as bad as they seem; this is one of them. Secondly, Everything is Temporary. Thirdly, Control is an Illusion.
Pickle141's comments are right on the mark.
Patience, patience, and more patience. Kindly understand your "normal" has changed...consider reading the book THE BRAIN THAT CHANGES ITSELF about how it takes times for our brains to catch up with reality, adapt, and accept (a process).
Only those who have walked a mile in your/our moccassins have a clue. Those of us who have, or who are walking with you "get it."
I was diagnosed with DCIS 15 years ago. Depression followed. Got help, got better. I believe you can and will get better. I am psychologically managing recent diagnosis/surgery better (older, more educated about life, and wiser).
Tuck the love of everyone who loves you under your pillow at night, remembering your greatest gift is your presence in their lives. People love you because you are breathing, not because you are the epitomy of perfection. There are miles to go! Colorado Morning Glory
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Julie, I just sent you a PM. Deanna
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Hi Julie,
I just wanted to write and say I had the most amazing experience today talking to a woman whose brother had colon cancer. We chatted for a while and she totally got it when I told her I am struggling with bc. It helped so much just to connect with another whose life has been impacted by cancer. Stay on the boards here, it does really help. Also, I would seriously like to know where you got that fuzzy teal sweater dress as it rocks! (if you are in fashion you might consider creating *fashionable* and *stylish* garments for post-operative bc survivors. The stuff I have looked at is crap!)
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