Ny Times article slamming mammography screening
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Pitanga... With those degrees under your belt, now you MUST read Drs. Welch's and Abramson's books...AND THEN, tell me what you think! Both books discuss the limitations of clinical trial DESIGN and give a cogent discussion on how doctors can BETTER interpret the data DESPITE the trials' limitations. I also have degrees in social science and found these two books to be the most enlightening on statistical analysis.
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if the researchers are taking into account the limitations of their studies, this is not being communicated in the press about it, nor in the recommendations wich onlly weigh mortallity and cost effectiveness of screening.
BTW, Voracious, are you the agent of these researchers? if not you should be... you are so gung ho about their work. Maybe think about getting in touch and offer your services
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Clinical drug research data in recent years must show efficacy and benefit per these analysis requirements.
Risk Benefit analysis and Kaplan Meier Survival curves.
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Pitanga...Are you trying to be funny about the press??? Not many medical reporters are well versed in statistics. Usually they just cut and paste the medical press releases into their stories and make it look like news! I know because I did public relations for a medical society and WROTE those press releases. At least, I understood the statistics behind the data.
If a person is interested in "the news," the best place to go to understand it is to look at the study that is reported in the news. Who does that??? Probably, only a handful of people like you, cp418 and me!
And cp418...those links are da best!
I wish more people, including those medical reporters understood how clinical trials were designed, understood the meaning of meta-analysis and took a course in statistics.....
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In all fairness...here's what the American College of Radiology has to say about the study:
ACR Statement on Welch and Frankel Study in Archives of Internal Medicine
The article by Welch and Frankel ([1]), and the commentary by Wilt and Partin ([2]) address an issue that belongs in the lay press - not a medical journal.
No expert has argued in scientific support of mammography screening that, because someone claims their life was saved by screening, this, somehow, supports screening. The serious support for screening comes from the data from randomized, controlled trials (RCT) and large observational studies that clearly show that deaths from breast cancer are reduced by early detection.
The authors should be well aware, that it is not possible to determine, specifically, whose life has been saved by screening. This is the reason for the need to perform RCT. This paper is simply a distraction from the enormous amount of scientific evidence that supports screening.Dr. Wilt, who wrote a supporting commentary, is on the United States Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) that dropped support for screening women ages 40-49, and told women ages 50 and over that they could be screened every two years. The USPSTF issued their guidelines knowing full well that for women ages 50 and over, their own modeling showed that at least 20 percent of lives that could be saved by screening annually, would be lost by screening every two years.
For women ages 40-49, the results of not screening are even more sobering. Using the models used by the USPSTF, Hendrick and Helvie calculated that among women who are now age 30-39 (entering their forties over the next 10 years), following the USPSTF guidelines would mean that as many as 100,000 lives would be lost from breast cancer that could have been saved by annual screening beginning at the age of 40 ([3]).Welch and Wilt ignore the scientific fact that tens of thousands of lives have been saved since screening began in the U.S. Prior to 1990, the death rate from breast cancer had been unchanged since 1940. Screening began in the U.S. around 1985, and the death rate from breast cancer has declined by more than 30% since 1990.
The fact that an individual can never be certain their own life was saved, is no reason to ignore the scientific evidence that thousands of lives are being saved by annual mammography beginning at the age of 40.[1] Welch HG, Frankel BA. Likelihood that a woman with screen detected breast cancer has had her life saved by that screening. Archives of Internal Medicine published Online Oct. 24, 2011. doi10.1001/archinternmed.2011.476.
[2] Wilt TJ and Partin MR. Screening: Simple Messages...Sometimes.... Archives of Internal Medicine published Online Oct. 24, 2011. doi10.1001/archinternmed.2011.476
[3] Hendrick RE, Helvie MA. United States preventive services task force screening mammography recommendations: science ignored. AJR Am J Roentgenology. 2011Feb;196(2):W112-6. PubMed PMID:21257850
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I couldn't have said it better:
NY Times:
Mammogram Message (1 Letter)
To the Editor:
Re "Mammograms' Role as Savior Is Tested" (Well, Oct. 25): Tara Parker-Pope clearly describes the questions many of us have raised through the years about the efficacy of mammography screening for breast cancer for all women over the age of 40. As patient advocates, we have been trained to recognize that it is only through evidence-based medicine that we can hope to achieve quality health care. Together with the medical and research communities, we have an obligation to educate and empower the general public to incorporate changes in scientific thinking into changes in health behaviors.
This is not easy, and it is made more difficult by those who feed into people's fear of change and perceived need for easy sound bites. The public today will be better informed, supported and empowered than it was in the past. And we can all focus our attention where it needs to be: on preventing this disease and, for those who already have a diagnosis, preventing metastasis and death from breast cancer.
Alice Yaker
New York
The writer is executive director, Share: Self-Help for Women with Breast or Ovarian Cancer.
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Very well said. Quietly following this thread because my writing on this subject would certainly cause confusion. Thanks
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Coraleliz...Consider yourself empowered!
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