Any vegans out there?

Any vegans out there?
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  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited October 2011

    I have made the decision to become a vegan.   But I'm worried about soy products. Is soy milk okay? What foods should I avoid eating.  I'm completely new at this so will appreciate any suggestions and or ideas about menus, etc.

    Thanks!

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited October 2011

    I am nearly vegan, and have been for 5 years.  I do eat some animal products, but avoid all animal fats.  I think that there will be many women on these boards with a good deal more information about this than I, but I think it is somewhat controversial as to the soy products and the general guideline that I have personally chosen is to limit soy products as much as possible.  I am able to do that because I use organic nonfat cowsmilk.  However, my son is allergic to cow's milk and he uses almond milk.  I think the almond milk may be a better substitute than the soy.  However, I don't think there is any controversy over sugar.  It is BAD in so many ways, including stimulating cancer growth.  So...if you use milk substitutes, like soymilk or almond milk, be very careful about those with added sugar.  Most have a lot of added refined sugar (and whether it is organic or not does not matter).

    I ditched tofu and stick almost entirely to only foods that are not processed..so that means lots of beans and whole grains...:)

    Good luck with the new diet...and ENJOY...the foods are so YUMMY:)

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited October 2011

    Thanks for your reply and the warning about the dairy substitutes (milk) I had no idea sugar was added. I already eat a lot of beans and grains so hopefully this won't be too difficult. I will miss cheese and eggs though--

  • purelove5
    purelove5 Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2011

    Just thought I would share this info. Not exactly for a vegan diet but diets to help not promote cancer.

     http://www.budwigcenter.com/anti-cancer-diet.php

     http://www.ravediet.com/

    http://maximizedliving.com/ 

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited October 2011

    I started out eating vegan 5 years ago and gradually added back in various animal products.  I found that when I added certain things back into my diet (hard-boiled egg whites and milk, primarily), that I felt better.  The most stunning thing was when I reintroduced lean turkey meat.  The next day, I felt like I had a new lease on life.  I only eat it very sparingly (1 or 2x per month) and I eat only organic, humanely raised turkey.

    Now, I know that it is possible to eat vegan and meet all of your nutritional requirements, but I think I failed to do it just right and I am glad that I have added those few things back in.

    By the way, removing cheese from my diet was one of the single best things I ever did.  Had the greatest impact on my digestive system and general feeling of well-being.  I think animal fats are really tough on people.  And, after the first 6 months or so, have lost all interest in eating it... so if you find it tough to give those up, and you are determined, you may lose interest in it eventually, too.

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited October 2011

    Interesting that you felt better adding things back in.  

    About the cheese: A friend told she had read that it really does a number on your sinuses. And lately I have been having constant stuffiness and sinus headaches (the ones in your forehead) off and on. I have been blaming it on the Aromasin, but maybe it's the cheese. I eat an awful lot of it. A 6 ounce chunk a week (low fat)

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited October 2011

    Thanks so much for the links!

  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited October 2011

    Im primarily vegan. No dairy or animal products EXCEPT organic free range eggs a couple times a week. I added them back after constantly being anemic...and wow, what a difference for me. I make my own nut milks..its super easy, no sugar and way cheaper than a $4 little carton. I primarily use hemp milk...our bodies process it very well. I just finished a surgery so am a little run down, but I have as a goal to add more raw foods in. I want to have 2 meals a week completely raw. I bought a raw cookbook. I was in Palm Beach Gardens and ended up going 3 times to a raw organic restaurant...sat next to Venus Williams one night!! The food was absolutely delicious...I was actually craving it by the end of the week! Its a lot of chopping and preparing, but I want to at least try incorporating some recipes into my family's repertoire! I like to think I am at least teaching my kids healthy alternatives.

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited October 2011

    Thanks guys, I'm learning a lot from your posts.

     How do you make your own milk?

  • Sandals
    Sandals Member Posts: 104
    edited November 2011

    I'm vegan.  I don't touch any animal products and eat a high raw organic diet.

    One cup of almonds to 5 cups of water.  Put them in the blender and then strain the liquid through a nutbag into a jug..

     You are left with Almond Pulp.  I use mine to make dehydrated biscuits but you can add it to whatever you like.

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited November 2011

    Thanks so much Sandals: I will try that. I assume a nutbag can be bought at a health food store? Even though I'm 75 I have NEVER been in a health food store, can you believe it? But better late than never. I'm having a hard time finding foods without animal products in the regular grocery store and when I do it is much more expensive. 

  • CindyD
    CindyD Member Posts: 45
    edited November 2011

    I have been 95% Vegan for over 8 months now. My understanding of soy and BC is that only fermented soy products are okay--miso, natto, nama shoyu (raw soy sauce) & tempeh. My doc says no soy milk, soy cheese, soy meat like products, or soy additives.

     I use miso daily in my salad dressings and sometimes in my smoothies. I get my protein from hemp seeds, bee pollen, goji berries, brown rice, quinoa, almonds and occasionally eggs.

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited November 2011

    sr-  you can use cheese cloth to strain

  • jla2000
    jla2000 Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2011

    i've been vegan for several years, and honestly, never really felt healthy UNTIL i became vegan.  here is a great website that offers a lot of valuable info about healthy foods, and it's good b/c it's all science based and they're not trying to sell you anything...http://nutritionfacts.org/topics/cancer/

    hope it helps!

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited November 2011

    Thanks so much Jla!  That looks like a great web site - I've already checked out a few of the videos.

  • Banba
    Banba Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2012

    *awaking this thread*

    What do you vegans out there do if you are hormone-positive and decided not to eat soy? Phytoestrogen is also found in pulses...

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited March 2012
    I eat bread, peanut butter, pasta, beans, rice, vegetables, fruits, oatmeal and Grape Nuts, and an occasional vegan dish which has soy in it. My onc said it's ok, as long as I don't overdo it.
  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited March 2012
    Banba,  it's not too hard to avoid soy if you avoid processed foods (soy is added to so many packaged goods). There are plenty of other sources of protein, including seitan (wheat gluten), beans, nuts and seeds, whole grain pastas, quinoa....I've never heard of beans/legumes other than soy being contraindicated for ER+ (I think beans are the same as pulses).
  • jenlee
    jenlee Member Posts: 504
    edited March 2012
    Was lacto-ovo vegetarian for about 3 years, primarily for humane reasons, though I do eat fish.  Since diagnosis, I've eliminated dairy on the advice of one of the MO's that I consulted early on.  Cutting out the dairy has been very difficult.  Have also cut out soy, which has also been challenging.  That said, sometimes I tell myself that something in moderation should be fine. An An occasional egg, Starbucks with a friend maybe once a month with milk in it, cheese sprinkled on my pasta maybe once or twice a month, soy sauce on my sushi...  Anyone else doing this?
  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited March 2012

    jenlee: I really missed eggs so now have several a week from a cage-free place. Costs more, but actually tastes better too.  I drink almond milk and like it much better than dairy milk. And dairy milk is full of hormones.   I do miss cheese and only fell off the wagon once. I hear you can buy vegan cheese though.

  • sdstarfish
    sdstarfish Member Posts: 544
    edited March 2012

    If you miss using soy sauce/tamari, there is a company called South River Miso that makes chick pea tamari or azuki bean tamari as well as chick pea miso.

    http://www.southrivermiso.com/

    Lisa

    Visit me at Pink Kitchen

  • Banba
    Banba Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2012

    Thanks all!

    I realize I do rely quite heavily on tofu and dried soy products. Need recepies for seitan. pleasethankyouisit :)

    dogsandjogs - at least over here there are several brands of vegan cheese. Not too bad, used it in vegan risotto the other day.

  • Carola32
    Carola32 Member Posts: 206
    edited March 2012

    Seitan can be used like meat in recipes, if you're not used to cooking vegan. In the pan, tossed with veggies and rice for example. A couple of minutes on each side of a seitan 'steak' is all it takes :-) Sometimes it comes packed in tamari sauce, you can either keep it or gently wash it off. Don't forget that lentils (am a fan of the orange corall ones) are rich in protein too. 

    I started out avoiding all soy and ER+ products, but if it is unprocessed & organic foods we eat (and we are well worth it), I'm totally ok with the occasional tofu/tempeh/miso plate. I'm concentrating on bringing balance to my body and not so much on hysterically avoiding phytoestrogens in plants etc. The 'real' endocrine bullies are the xenoestrogens, chemicals mimicking estrogen lurking in pesticides, plastics, teflon, makeup, cremes (in form of parabens, phtalates and other cozy names) just to name some horrors..

  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited March 2012

    Hello Ladies . . . I just found this thread and while some of the posts a bit old I wanted to jump in if I can help in any way . . . I've been a strick vegan for 25 years . . . so, as most of you already know that means I do not eat any animal products or any animal secretions (e.g. milk, eggs). I am also a "whole foods" vegan, so I also do not eat processed food (e.g. veggie hot dogs etc.). That said, I eat a tremendously varied and delicious diet each and every day . . . including literally all thing you can imagine from pizza to grilled cheese sandwiches (I make my own cheese using pine nuts) . . . I make chocolate chip cookies and a killer fudge brownies! So . . . if there is literally anything that I can do to assist any of you, or help in any way . . . it would be my honour to do so . . . either on this thread. . . . or feel very free to PM if you'd prefer!!! Also . . . just as another note, I do not take supplements . . . I believe that we get literally everything we need from food . . . including our B12!

  • PLJ
    PLJ Member Posts: 373
    edited March 2012

    Is there a vegan recipe thread? I'd love to swap recipes...always looking for fresh, delicious meals to prepare.

  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited March 2012

    I'm not sure if there is one or not . . . but we can certainly use this thread . . . I'm game!!!

  • Banba
    Banba Member Posts: 93
    edited April 2012

    Hey there,

    Been out of circulation for a while, thanks for suggestions of how to cook seitan. Vegangirl, it is good to have an experienced vegan onborad :)

    I am really excited about adding good stuff to my diet and am getting into raw food. Starting the recipe swap by two short but tasty starters and/or salads

    Fresh spinach

    1/2 Papaya

    A couple of cut up dates

    Lime

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    Fresh fenel cut into strips

    1/2 pomegrante(cut, squeeze and hammer the seeds out with a spoon)

    Ruccola 

    Walnuts 

      

      

  • PLJ
    PLJ Member Posts: 373
    edited April 2012

    What could be substituted for the flax in most raw recipes? Chia or buckwheat flour?

    TIA,

    PLJ

    P.S. Will add recipes later this week.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Hello vegan goddesses! I'm new to this and was wondering if there were more! I became vegan just five months ago after participating in a lifestyle health class and watching the film, " forks over knives"....so I was happy with my new diet for three months before my diagnosis of BC. Do any of you have difficulty convincing your loved ones and medical "team" about the ability to get adequate protein and overall nutrition?

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