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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    Leia, you are 15 lb overweight and a smoker.  So, I'm not buying the "I feel great" song that you feel the need to keep repeating over and over. (I'm not sure if you are trying to convince us.... or yourself.) Because you don't weight train, that tells me that that extra 15lb your are lugging around every day is mostly FAT. So, your diet can't be all that great either. 

    I weigh 112lb and I'm 5'2. I'm just an inch shorter than you. My diet is super healthy. I take in around 2200 calories per day.  And, I workout (cardio, weigh training, yoga) 6 days per week, an hour each session. 

    If I were to gain 15lb, my doctor would be seriously concerned. That's a lot weight when you are short. I don't think the self healing stuff is really working for you, sweetie.  But, when you see the ND, he or she will help you out. Then, once you finally get it together, do come back and share.  

    Good luck with that!Smile

    ETA: You are not the first woman to refuse chemo, BTW.  Just a reminder. You are posting on an Alternative forum. So, your kinda preaching to the choir. At the same time, those here who have undergone chemo are not stupid. They know chemo is not the perfect answer. That's mainly why they frequent the complementary and alternative forums. They are trying to restore their health and get through their treatments. Constantly beating them over the head can not be helpful. It's too much. sweetbean, tried to tell you that. But, you didn't get the hint.   

  • Leia
    Leia Member Posts: 265
    edited October 2011

    I am just going to avoid all of the personal slurs and just get back to the point of this thread. Which is that the Susan G. Komen Foundation is a fraud. 

    Susan G. Komen was in her thirties when she contracted and died, from breast cancer. Breast cancer in women, in their thirties, is rare. Susan G. Komen was unlucky. As are most women who get breast cancer, in their thirties. Yet, breast cancer, in women who are in their thirties, is the tiny minority. 

    And the sad thing is that Thermography would have detected Komen's breast cancer. Thermography is great at truly early stage cancers. But that was not an option offered to her.  

    Then comes the Susan G. Komen Foundation. Promoting Mammograms, for everyone. And chemo and radiation and tamoxifen and blah blah. And the people running this outfit making all of this $$$. When none of this would have helped Susan G. Komen.

    Well, I just think for myself. And reject all of this "pink" Susan G. Komen nonsense.  When the true answer is eating healthy foods. Exercising, and Vitamin D3, which prevents 75% of all cancers. 

    Why am I still posting here?  

    I'm trying to pay it forward. For posters on this board that led me to the right way. Which is not this medical shit, but taking control of my own life.  

    And again, I feel just GREAT! 

  • Lynn18
    Lynn18 Member Posts: 416
    edited October 2011

    Someone I know was recently diagnosed with lung cancer.  She has been a breast cancer survivor for many years, and started having a lot of back pain.  When they found cancer in her bones, it was assumed her breast cancer had metastisized.  But I guess a biopsy showed it was lung cancer.  She has a tumor in her lungs and also her brain.  She was a former smoker, but had quit long ago.

    So I have read up on lung cancer.  It sounds like 40 percent of those diagnosed are diagnosed with stage 4.  I didn't realize that lung cancer often metastsizes to the bones or brain.  It seems so unfair that she now has a second type of cancer, but I have heard that having one type of cancer puts you at risk for a second kind.  That's really scary.

    I would actually rather have breast cancer than lung cancer.  Apparently lung cancer kills more than breast, colon, and prostrate combined.  

    I am so sad for her.  And I don't ever want to even go near a casino, or anywhere where people smoke, ever again! 

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2011

    And the sad thing is that Thermography would have detected Komen's breast cancer. Thermography is great at truly early stage cancers. But that was not an option offered to her.  

    WOW!  Thirty years of clinical research by doctors around the world who were hoping that thermography would be the answer to diagnosing early stage cancer, and you, Leia, have determined that their studies were all for nought, and you have declared that Susan Komen's cancer would have been found via thermography.

    I thought you were a CPA? 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    Here's a look at the 10 cancers that killed the most people in the United States between 2003 and 2007, the most recent data available, according to the National Cancer Institute (NCI).

    1. Lung and bronchial cancer: 792,495 lives
    Lung and bronchial cancer is the top killer cancer in the United States. Smoking and use of tobacco products are the major causes of it, and it strikes most often between the ages of 55 and 65, according to the NCI. There are two major types: non-small cell lung cancer, which is the most common, and small cell lung cancer, which spreads more quickly. More than 157,000 people are expected to die of lung and bronchial cancer in 2010.

    2. Colon and rectal cancer: 268,783 lives
    Colon cancer grows in the tissues of the colon, whereas rectal cancer grows in the last few inches of the large intestine near the anus, according to the National Cancer Institute. Most cases begin as clumps of small, benign cells called polyps that over time become cancerous. Screening is recommended to find the polyps before they become cancerous, according to the Mayo Clinic. Colorectal cancer is expected to kill more than 51,000 people in 2010.

    3. Breast cancer: 206,983 lives
    Breast cancer is the second most common cancer in women in the United States, after skin cancer, according to the Mayo Clinic. It can also occur in men - there were nearly 2,000 male cases between 2003 and 2008. The cancer usually forms in the ducts that carry milk to the nipple or the glands that produce the milk in women. Nearly 40,000 people are expected to die from breast cancer in 2010, according to the NCI.

    4. Pancreatic cancer: 162,878 lives
    Pancreatic cancer begins in the tissues of the pancreas, which aids digestion and metabolism regulation. Detection and early intervention are difficult because it often progressives stealthily and rapidly, according to the Mayo Clinic. Pancreatic cancer is expected to claim nearly 37,000 lives in 2010, according to the NCI.

    5. Prostate cancer: 144,926 lives
    This cancer is the second-leading cause of cancer deaths in men, after lung and bronchial cancer, according to the NCI. Prostate cancer usually starts to grow slowly in the prostate gland, which produces the seminal fluid to transport sperm. Some types remain confined to the gland, and are easier to treat, but others are more aggressive and spread quickly, according to the Mayo Clinic. Prostate cancer is expected to kill about 32,000 men in 2010, according to the NCI.

    6. Leukemia: 108,740 lives
    There are many types of leukemia, but all affect the blood-forming tissues of the body, such as the bone marrow and the lymphatic system, and result in an overproduction of abnormal white blood cells, according to the NCI. Leukemia types are classified by how fast they progress and which cells they affect; a type called acute myelogenous leukemia killed the most people - 41,714 - between 2003 and 2007. Nearly 22,000 people are expected to die from leukemia in 2010.

    7. Non-Hodgkin lymphoma: 104,407 lives
    This cancer affects the lymphocytes, a type of white blood cell, and is characterized by larger lymph nodes, fever and weight loss. There are several types of non-Hodgkin lymphoma, and they are categorized by whether the cancer is fast- or slow-growing and which type of lymphocytes are affected, according to the NCI. Non-Hodgkin lymphoma is deadlier than Hodgkin lymphoma, and is expected to kill more than 20,000 people in 2010.

    8. Liver and intrahepatic bile duct cancer: 79,773 lives
    Liver cancer is one of the most common forms of cancer around the world, but is uncommon in the United States, according to the Mayo Clinic. However, its rates in America are rising. Most liver cancer that occurs in the U.S. begins elsewhere and then spreads to the liver. A closely related cancer is intrahepatic bile duct cancer, which occurs in the duct that carries bile from the liver to the small intestine. Nearly 19,000 Americans are expected to die from liver and intrahepatic bile duct cancer in 2010, according to the NCI.

    9. Ovarian cancer: 73,638 lives
    Ovarian cancer was the No. 4 cause of cancer death in women between 2003 and 2007, according to the NCI. The median age of women diagnosed with it is 63. The cancer is easier to treat but harder to detect in its early stages, but recent research has brought light to early symptoms that may aid in diagnosis, according to the Mayo Clinic. Those symptoms include abdominal discomfort, urgency to urinate and pelvic pain. Nearly 14,000 women are expected to die of ovarian cancer in 2010, according to the NCI.

    10. Esophageal cancer: 66,659 lives
    This cancer starts in the cells that line the esophagus (the tube that carries food from the throat to the stomach) and usually occurs in the lower part of the esophagus, according to the Mayo Clinic. More men than women died from esophageal cancer between 2003 and 2007, according to the NCI. It is expected to kill 14,500 people in 2010.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    When a smoker inhales cigarette smoke, 70% of the tar remains in the lungs.

    ETA: How great do you feel when you cough,Leia? Smoking is how you take control of your health? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  

    And taking vitamin d, walking, and eating "healthy", is  no reason to intentionally put cancer causing toxins in your body or repeat over and over ( on a cancer forum of all places) that doing so is sensible. We're trying to reduce the toxic load and heal our bodies appropriately.

    Like Komen, you really need to decide.  Are you trying to help us prevent cancer, or make it? You can't do both and then cry when people question your actions. I'm disillusioned with both of you.

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited October 2011

    Leia,

     Women who get breast cancer under 40 are not a tiny minority.  I am stunned that you said that.   Having been diagnosed at age 37, I can now attest to the fact that there are plenty of us who are diagnosed under 40.  And the misconception that young women don't get breast cancer has resulted in doctors' not listening to us or following us, which results in later stage diagnosis for most of us.  Look at my signature - IIb/IIIa.  Pretty scary stuff.   If you don't want people to do conventional treatment because you didn't, fine.  But don't continue to spread misinformation - that's just not helpful. 

  • Leia
    Leia Member Posts: 265
    edited October 2011

    To repeat; This thread is about the fraud of the Susan G. Komen Foundation. Sweetbean what is the percentage pf women who get breast cancer under age 40? You said it was not a tiny minority, as I claimed. So, what is the percentage?

    As someone said, above, I am a CPA. I add up numbers, for a living. And I have read studies that for every 1,000 women that have a mammogram, one person's life is saved. But at what cost?

    Well, say a mammo costs $300, That is $300,000 to save one woman, in a pool of 1000 women. Of course, if it is you, it's priceless. But what about the other 999 women? 

    Most mammograms are normal. And yet, the Breast Cancer Medical Industrial Complex searches out the "abnormal." Even if it is just DCIS. Ductal Carninoma In Situ. Meaning, it's not really a cancer. It is "in Situ," meaning in place. It has not spread. Left alone, it could never spread. 

     Cancer means it has spread. Yet the Breast Cancer Medical Industrial Complex spends $Billions on DCIS. 

    But back to the $Cost, we can not afford this nonsense, anymore. The current deficit in the US is $14.5Trillion. Do you women realize this?

    At the end of the day, all of these "treatments" will just stop. The Chinese will stop buying our Treasuries.  And we won't be able to afford all of this nonsense. By that, I mean these nonsense "tests." Where one is helped out of 1,000. Hey, what about the other 3 Billion women, on the planet?

    And to someone, above, I can't remember who, Theromography IS the answer. Again, Thermography could have saved Susan G. Komen. 

    Yet the Susan G. Komen Foundation rejects it. They just want their $$$$$$  

    I reject them. I am living and relying, on Myself. 

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited October 2011

    Leia,

    You, of all people, should know that those statistics are hardly reliable.  Statistics about cancer in general are pretty unreliable, I've found.  Yes, there are fewer women under 40 diagnosed - I think the official number is somewhere around 8 percent.  However, considering that most women have had their cancer for years by the time they are diagnosed, you could easily make the case that lots more young women would be getting diagnosed earlier if everyone understood that young women can and do get breast cancer. Nobody thinks that we can get breast cancer, so nobody screens us or even warns us. I didn't know I was high-risk until after I got diagnosed.   I was diagnosed at 37, but I bet I could have been diagnosed at 33, at the very least.  I'm guessing I had that cancer in my body for quite some time.

    My point remains - we are not a tiny minority.  And it's really rather inflammatory to be so dismissive, which brings me back to the tone of your writing.  I don't know if you mean to do this, but you always come across as pretty condescending and dismissive of everyone else's experience, even while demanding that everyone take yours seriously.  It's a two way street.   

     For what it's worth, I think mammograms suck as a diagnostic tool, too.  And I hate Komen - I think they are useless.   I think if you changed the tone of your writing, you would get a lot more traction around here and find that people would agree with you more.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    Leia,  you may want to consider volunteering at Breast Cancer Action www.bcaction.org/.  It's  a national grassroots education and advocacy organization . Part of what they do, in case you didn't know, is advocate for more effective and less toxic breast cancer treatments. 

    I agree with what sweetbean said about your tone. Then I thought, perhaps it is unfair to ask you to change who you are. I think if you want to discuss/complain/ bitch about politics and the business of breast cancer, then maybe you should carry this discussion in the Advocacy Forum? 

    Although we do talk about politics here a bit, we really don't give it too much time and energy, which is good. We are more focused on restoring our health, sharing tips and information and supporting each other.  

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