Surreal 3 weeks
On October 7th I received the news no woman wants to hear- you have breast cancer. I was faithful with my annual mammograms, having the most recent clean report Jan. 30, 2011. About April a knot popped up on the top of my left breast. I was sure I had pulled a muscle- it was sore, irregular and just felt like a kind of mushy knot. Let it go for a few months even icing it down, then in Aug went to a Family Practice MD who also said no big deal. Another month until I got into the radilogist for another mammogram and Ultra Sound. I knew it was not good when the radilogist said we need to biopsy asap. Next day needle biopsy which was difficult due to how solid the mass was. More confirmation I was in trouble. Next day- confirmation from pathology. ILC.
Because of location and size (2.5cm according to MRI) - grade 2- positive for both E&P receptor- I have opted for mastectomy. Due to research on ILC (even though MRI does not show any evidence in other breast or elsewhere in affected breast or lymph nodes) decided on bi-lateral with reconstruction. Surgery scheduled Nov.1st.
Just when I have it all together and ready to kick cancer's ass I get hit with a little bit of what if. No time for that-I have two grandsons and I am determined to see their babies. But truth be told it is scary as hell. I prayed get me through the biopsy- ok, I'll deal; get me through the MRI- so far so good- now get me through the lymph node biopsy only to hear a story about even though not in nodes could have traveled to blood stream. So many positive stories and I am blessed to be around several women who have just gone through BC but no one with ILC. I feel so special.
Since I have already made the surgery decision, guess I am asking for advice on the right questions and screening for oncologist.
As one of my collegues said, "welcome to the sorority, it just sucks to qualify". So sorry for all of you out there going through this.
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Hi Bev and yes sorry you needed to join this sorority but welcome to BCO. The system works alittle differently here is Australia and the onc has all your test results prior to you seeing them so they have all information si it becomes a matter of just discussing the type of chemo etc that he/she is recommending and why. I'm not sure if that is the case in the USA.
I just wanted to welcome you and give you a cyber ((((hug)))). Someone else will surely be along shortly to perhaps give you more of an answer.
Love n hugs. Chrissy
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Oh Bev, so sorry you have to go through this. I had DCIS which was a stage zero cancer but because it was in three spots on the left breast and there was a benign papiloma on the right which the surgeon wanted to remove I opted for a bilateral mastectomy. I had a hard time justifying such a radical choice with a stage zero diagnosis. But I kept telling myself that I needed to take care of this in the best way possible for me. Keep up the positive attitude and ask lots of questions. Since I didn't need chemo I can't suggest any questions for screening for an oncologist, but I'm sure others will be here to guide you with that. Stay strong...you can beat this.
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Hi Bev,
I too was diagnosed in October...actually am a 6 year survivor today!!
Being diagnosed with breast cancer is like someone hitting you across the head with a 2x4 and you saying what the heck just happened? Try not to think about the whole picture right now as it will drive you completely crazy...take it baby steps at a time and know that you will get through this.
It is a long difficult, physically and emotionally exhausting journey. Our spirit needs to heal first and then our minds and bodies.
This board was a god send to me when I was diagnosed 6 years ago at age 41. The first few days, months and even few years after diagnosis are really hard to deal with emotionally. Eventually you do find your "new normal" and somehow manage to make it through.
To answer your question honestly, yes cancer cells can travel through the blood stream. I believe it is known as lymphatic invasion. It will be noted on your pathlogy report once you have your surgery.
Is your doctor recommending chemo? I was terrified when I heard I had three positive lymph nodes, had 23 of them removed (1st and 2nd level). I have done everything humanly possible to beat this disease. Try not to worry, easier said than done....it will not change the outcome. Your medical team will be that more aggressive with your treatment plan if you have positive nodes.I had a lumpectomy with clean margins, 6 months of chemo (8 treatments every 3 weeks), 25 radiation treatments, put on Armidex and given Zoldex injections to chemically shut down my ovaries for 1.5 years. I decided at age 44 with my oncologist's recommendation to permanently remove my ovaries as chemo didnt put me into menopause (must have been tons of estrogen pumping through my system). I have finished my 5 years on Armidex and am feeling better than I have in years.
Life's little annoyances are a welcome change and I do not think about cancer every day...it does get better...I promise.
I had IDC with 4 cm tumour, 3 positive lymph nodes, grade III and was er/pr+ and her-.
My youngest sister was also diagnosed last July at age 43 with a 7cm tumour close to the chest wall (had lumpectomy - dirty margins and then had to have her left breast removed). She had 6 rounds of chemo, negative nodes which is really surprising considering the size of the tumour. She is a little over 8 months out of chemo and on Tamoxifen and doing well!
All the best to you as you go through your treatments and start to heal...reach out to this board...there definitely is a huge support system here for others that have travelled the road before you.
Big hugs as I remember vividly how difficult the early days were.
Michele
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Bev, sorrry you are having to join all of us, but you have come to a good place. Just wish I had known about BCO sooner. The first bit of advice I have for you, is make sure you have a breast specialist doing your mastectomy. That was my first big screw up. I am a nurse and didn't even know they existed. My drains were left in too long, so got a massive infection, had to have a 2nd surgery, a wound vac placed over gaping hole in my chest, lymphedema from infection, chemo was delayed because of infection, and now I am dealing with the fact that I have to have a latissimus flap because surgeon did not leave enough skin for tissue expanders alone. Take your time in choosing your medical team. I was in such a hurry to get the cancer out, I did not even consider going to another city.
My situation also sounds similar to yours. I have had a mammogram every year since I was 27 due to fibrocystic disease and family history. Even had two mammograms in 2009, the second one being in August. Found a lump in April of 2010, but thought it was another cyst, so opted to wait until mammogram was due in August but had a feeling it was not going to be good because pain and soreness had gotten worse.
I remember very well how scared I was and wondered if I would even see my daughter graduate from high school. She will graduate in 2013 and I have high hopes that I will be around. Just remember this is only temporary and there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

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Bev,
Didnt answer your question about screening for an oncologist....I would definitely want someone who is compassionate and takes the time to answer ALL of your questions (doesnt rush you out the door). My oncologist spent 1.5 hours with my husband and I the first appointment. He explained the whole chemo process, side effects, what staging of breast cancer meant, etc.
Your oncologist will follow you for many years so it has to be someone that you have a comfort level with. Do you have any one who could recommend you to a good one in your area? If you do happen to go to someone and dont have that comfort level, get someone else...you want someone who is going to be working for you!
I would bring a note pad and/or tape recorder and definitely a friend or family member with you as we tend to miss alot of the discussion at this point in the process as our minds are realing.
Ask if chemo is recommended and reasons why, what type of chemo will be used and how often? Are you a candidate for the oncotype testing (determines risk of reoccurance)? How soon after surgery would chemo start?
Is there someone that you can talk to or call after hours should there be any questions during treatment, a nurse, etc?
If I think of anything else during the day today, I will respond after work.
Michele
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I have ILC and was diagnosed on 8/29/2011. My situation was similar to yours--previously clean mammo in December 2010 and felt the knot out of nowhere. I've got a multifocal tumor one of which is 2 cm. like yours and the other is 5 cm. I am doing the neo-adjuvant chemo right now, and then having a mastectomy in late January or early February. I may also do both at the same time. My MRI showed some involvement in the other breast that could not be visualized by mammo or ultrasound and thus could not be biopsied. This is beginning to be far too familiar of a scenario. Please feel free to private message me if you want to talk further about my experience, which sounds similar to yours.
It sucks to feel that mammography has somewhat failed you. The whole experience sucks, but you seem to be approaching it exactly as I am--praying to get through each procedure and what each day brings. I think this is the healthiest approach from the advice I've gotten from survivors. Also, I'm trying to eliminate the "what if's" from my thoughts and just dealing with what I've got to deal with that day going forward.
There are other ILC women in treatment and survivors here in this forum that I'm sure you'll hear from as well. Hugs to you!
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Hi
Coming up on my 3 year mark. Not been an easy ride but I'm still standing! Remember that 2cm of you is unhealthy, the rest of you is fine and will fight for health. Hope this helps put it in a good perspective.
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Bev,
Thought of something else re: hormonals (which is a little further along the line) but which one would they put you on tamoxifen or an AI (Aromotose Inhibitor which basically blocks production of estrogen). You dont say if you are pre or post-menopausal...so if post meno - Armidex, Femara or Aramosin.
Michele
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Thank you all for your wonderful compassion and information. It certainly does help to have a sisterhood out there.
Appreciate all of your words and advice. Periods of being scared and emotional - not to mention going off HRT cold turkey after 13 years
but I am going to get through this. Patience is not one of my virtues so taking a day at a time is difficult for me but I know I have to try. Beverly
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Bev - I was diagnosed with ILC in July, 2010. I also decided on BMX. The pathology showed ADH in my good side and reinforced that I made the right decision for me! You need to the full pathology report before you can have a meaningful discussion with the oncologist. Unfortunately, there are many women who have no node involvement on MRI or ultrasound who have positive nodes on pathology. I'm telling you this not to scare you but to prepare you. I was one of these women and IU was totally unprepared when I woke up from my surgery and was told that I had a huge positive sentinal node.
The oncotype test is recommended for tumors ER + tumors in node negative women and women with 1-3 positive nodes. Once you know your pathology, you should discuss this test with your MO. Whatever your MO recommends, you should ask him to tell you how or why he's come to the decision that this treatment is best for you. If at all possible, you should try to see a MO that treats primarily breast cancer. And don't hesitate to get a 2nd opinion! I ended up going to 3 MO before starting my treatment. While they each recommended the same treatment, they each gave me additional information. I'm glad that I could learn something from each visit.
Deep breaths. This is the hardest time. Sending postiive thoughts.
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Bev,
I was pre-menopausal prior to bc and got shoved into menopause through Zoladex injections at age 42, so can some what relate to your fears of going cold turkey HRT. My hotflashes and sleep were severely affected and mood swings! Since your tumour is estrogen positive, the HRT has to be gone.
Being scared and afraid of the unknown is very normal. Have a good cry when you need to...did lots of that in the first year....crying is cleansing to the soul and releases pent up emotions. I found each step of the process, prior to surgery, prior to chemo, prior to starting the hormonals all provoked different emotions because I felt somewhat like a science experiment....waiting for side effects to happen. Our minds tend to conjur up things that dont always happen.
If you need to seek out additional help or counselling if you are really struggling, most major cancer centers offer counselling or social workers. This can even be helpful for your family members who are going through their own fears of loosing you, although they will never admit it. My hubby had a really hard time and had to go on anti depressants for the first time in his life, my parents were a mess and my mother also put up that strong front until after I finished chemo and then she too fell apart too.
"The Breast Cancer Husband" is a highly recommended book written from a guy's point of view watching his wife go through bc and how to support her. My hubby read it from cover to cover and so did i! You might find it on Amazon or in your local book store. There is also a book called "Breast Cancer for Dummies" which explains alot of the terms especially related to your pathlogy report and other bc terms which are really foreign to us at first.
Yes, you will get through it....the hardest thing I have ever had to face but I made it out the other side and you can too!
Michele
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Off to my pre-op today then a weekend with my grandchildren before the main event next Tuesday.
I am so ready to get this behind me and thank you all for the information. It has helped alot.
Be back after the surgery. Bless you all.
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Hi
we have similar stats.... I would echo al lthat has been said so far.... I had a lumpectomy so I cannot comment on the surgery. Just be sure they do the oncotype test to help you decide about chemo....it is not the worst thing you have to do,if you have to do it.... we can help you more if you get to that point.
I think it is important to just take it one step at a time--have the surgery, heal, get the pathology, oncotype results and decide on next steps. You do need an onc to help you with that-- I would look for competence, kindness and patience in an onc. You may have to see him/her regularly for the next few years--might as well like them.....
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