Komen denies BPA link to breast cancer

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I just saw this article about Komen's position that there is no connection between BPA and breast cancer, in spite of plenty of research proving otherwise. It seems to me that this goes directly against helping with a cure for breast cancer.  Thought I'd post:

 http://www.naturalnews.com/033837_Komen_for_the_Cure_BPA.html 

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  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited October 2011

    I totally agree and wonder about political motivation to not offend some sponsors.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2011

    More recent information about BPA, from the main Breastcancer.org site:  Exposure to Chemicals in Plastic.

    The Komen statement being quoted seems to be from this in April 2010, where they cite this FDA Update as their source.

    Judith and the Mods

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited October 2011
  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2011

    I just read the last post, and if I understood this correctly, BPA is also in "Epoxy".....I just know I have wound up in the emergency ward twice, from being around & inhaling the fumes from Epoxy!  Same thing happened when using, or inhaling Paint Stripper. 

    I broke out in welts, then blisters,  face swelled up, & had to take Prednisone, Benadryl & Adrenaline.  We just have to be careful of being around "Inhalants" when we are using them or near anyone that is.   DH has to epoxy "things" out in the garage....until it is all dry, before we can bring it in the house. 

    Any kind of "chemicals" can cause problems to certain people...

    I don't think BPA in plastic bottles has any significance for us having cancer, but when used in something that we ARE allergic to, causes a lot of problems.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited October 2011

    Food for thought...........................my husband was a carpenter, by trade for 33 years.............he worked around wood, and all types of epoxy's and glues which were used in wood, wood products, and also formica products........................he dealt with it almost everyday in a closed environment.................................he died, at 57 from Pancreatic cancer..........................that was just a minimum amount of the different solvents, glues,  epoxy's, and formaldahyde things he came in contact with,and inhaled............................just a though......................coincidence you say...........................don't tell his 6 children that......................

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited October 2011

    Ducky.... I'm so sorry about your Husband!  And your kids losing their Dad.... I mean even when I gave tours for the Company I worked for, through their labeling plants, the fumes from the paints/solvents would make me dizzy.  I couldn't ever imagine working there, nor even giving tours through there again.

    I don't think most people realize that even if you don't get these chemicals on your skin, they are absorbed through your pores, along with being inhaled.    I know some companies are careful about only using "approved" chemicals, but even those can be dangerous. 

    It's like at Rocky Flats!  The workers and their families have been fighting them for so many years, because of the plutonium, etc. they were exposed to.... And most companies will fight with all of their lawyers and money, to keep from being found at fault.

    And then there is me....lost my hearing because of Tamoxifen...another approved drug, that is probably saving lots of womens lives, but even an "approved" drug can cause enormous problems.

  • dreaming
    dreaming Member Posts: 473
    edited October 2011

    Kommen will not do nothing that Nancy Brinker permits,, lets not forget she became an Ambassador due not to rock the boat and her donations.

    When we started as activists and advocates in the earliest 90, Kommen refused to join NBCC because :'" they were not political ", now it is using the same reason.

    I recommend to read  Silent Spring, published in 1962.

  • Raili
    Raili Member Posts: 435
    edited October 2011

    I'm not a Komen supporter.  I recommend Breast Cancer Action, the only national breast cancer organization that doesn't accept money from companies that contribute to or profit from cancer.  They currently have a campaign going on to protest Komen's new "Promise Me" perfume, which actually includes toxic chemicals.  Komen is refusing to sign Breast Cancer Action's pledge to not engage in pinkwashing.  Pinkwashing = promoting a pink product/donating money to breast cancer research, while simultaneously manufacturing or promoting carcinogenic products.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited October 2011

    Think it's time Ms. Brinker retired and her organization with her - KFC, perfume, pinkwashing and now BPA isn't a problem - what planet is this group living on?

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    <sigh...>  As usual, Natural News completely twists facts, misrepresents research, and creates sensationalistic, fear-mongering headlines. 

    Re: "Komen denies BPA link to breast cancer," it's wise to bypass Mike Adam's misinformation and read for oneself what Komen has to say about BPA.  

    Judith posted some links above that are worth looking into, rather than reading overblown and exaggerated nonsense from Adams.  As always, it's so critical to look for credible resources.  

  • Raili
    Raili Member Posts: 435
    edited October 2011

    I agree that it is critical to look for credible resources.  What I consider a credible resource is an organization that A) does not manufacture, sell, or promote products that are known - or even suspected! Better safe than sorry! - to cause or increase one's risk of cancer, and B) does not partner with or accept money from companies that contribute to or profit from cancer.  Komen does not meet these criteria.

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    Good point, Raili.  I tend to agree with you about profit motives, but I do consider Komen to be in an entirely different realm from NaturalNews. 

    Taken to an extreme, I'm not sure what would be left if we removed all resources promoting products with any suspected links to cancer.  Things sure would be a heck of a lot simpler then, though! 

    I don't know much about Breast Cancer Action (bcaction.org), but I'll definitely read more about it!

  • dreaming
    dreaming Member Posts: 473
    edited October 2011

    I suggest to go to National Breast Cancer Coalition.[NBCC], it has all kinds of information.

    Komen is Ms Brinker . They spend too much money in public relations and less on what matters.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    I find it very hard to trust an organization that is senseless enough to sell a toxic perfume and pink buckets of greasy non-organic fast food in order to create a world without cancer. Komen's indifference to cancer prevention is obvious.

    I turn to Breast Cancer Action and Cancer Prevention Coalition www.preventcancer.com for sensible up to date information about foods and ingredients to avoid. These non profits organizations are at least serious about reducing cancer rates. 

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    I don't, by any stretch, agree with everything Komen does (especially the infamously bad business decisions re: perfume and KFC).  On the other hand, I personally see that they do a LOT of good things that for some reason seem to be glossed over here.

    In any case, I have to disagree about Cancer Prevention Coalition.  Despite it's outwardly noble title, IMHO, it's nothing more than a front for quackery.  Samuel Epstein is the CPC chairman, and he's quite well known for quackery, conspiracy theories, and scammy multi-level marketing companies like Neways.  Definitely not a reliable or credible resource, again IMHO.  Of course, YMMV.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    The commercialization of breast cancer: do your research before ... In this article the writer explains why these "pink" awareness campaigns are one of the main reasons why we are losing the war on cancer, especially metastatic disease.   

    For those of you who are interested in helping to stop pinkwashing, if you visit www.bcaction.org, they have set up a letter that you can send to Komen.  It encourages Komen  to put patients before profits by taking every precaution when it comes to all partnerships and the  pink ribbon products they promote. If we don't speak up, Komen will continue to boldy practice unethical cause related marketing. (Yoplait is still one of their sponsors. Yikes!)  

  • phoenixrising
    phoenixrising Member Posts: 139
    edited October 2011

    BPA is in the composite resin used to fill cavities and root canals as well.  My dentist advised me against it, said it will slowly breakdown over time.

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    Princess, the link you posted concludes by saying, "If you are going to donate to a cancer organization, make sure it is one that you can believe in."   Excellent advice!  No argument there!

    I abhor the commercialization or pinkwashing of breast cancer as much as anyone else.  You can love or hate Komen, but to me, it's just not helpful to make untrue/exaggerated/sensationalistic statements like "Komen denies BPA link to breast cancer."

    As for bcaction.org (Breast Cancer Action), I realize that I had l had researched them earlier, and I personally find their organization to suffer a serious lack of honesty and integrity. 

    Again, personally, I'm much more inclined to support organizations like the Triple Negative Breast Cancer Foundation (tnbcfoundation.org), Breast Cancer Research Foundation (brcf.org), or the Metastatic Breast Cancer Network (mbcn.org).  

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    Hi Phoenixrising, what does your dentist use in lieu of composite resin?  Is there a reasonable alternative? 

  • Raili
    Raili Member Posts: 435
    edited October 2011

    thenewme, how is BCAction dishonest or lacking integrity?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    thenewme, reducing our exposure to toxic chemicals and living "green" is really important for those of us  (the majority) who are ER+. That's why many of us visit sites like Natural News, Breast Cancer Action etc. These sites promote the importance of living natural and are against everything  that  compromises the  public's  health.  In other words, the information they provide  is not ‘quackery' or  ‘overblown'. Your sweeping statements don't make sense.  Personally, I learned a lot about toxins, organic living and supplements from those sites.  I am sure others on this forum have too.

    The majority of us have had to make drastic lifestyle changes because practically everything around us is carinogenic or unsafe from the chemicals that's put in our foods, cosmetics, sunscreens and plastics to the exposure to chemicals in our drinking water.  The good news is there are alternative natural products available on the market. So yes, to help prevent cancer we have to "take it to an extreme" as you put it.  

    To understand where you are coming from, I looked at all three "credible" sites that you mentioned. The importance of taking vitamin D and other essential vitamins and avoiding environmental toxins are not mentioned at all. What's up with that? (ETA: Never mind. I'm not interested in the answer.)

    Personally, I support organizations that do their best to give  practical up-to-date information and news about BC and health in general.  I don't care for mainstream pink nonsense. None of those hideous products are going to keep me healthy.  A small pathetic portion of the money raised from sales of these items actually goes to cancer research. 

    On the other hand, a good daily dose of vitamin D can take me a long way.  May God bless Mike Adams, Dr. Mercola, Dr, Epstein and the folks at Breast Cancer Action for educating their readers and opening our eyes. 

       

  • phoenixrising
    phoenixrising Member Posts: 139
    edited October 2011

    @thenewme, sorry, nothing good to offer.  Only silver (mercury) at this point which is what he advised.  Yea, I know, a rock and a hard place.  I don't want either but I really don't want an estrogenic compound.  The trick is....take really good care of your teeth so you don't need either :)

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited October 2011
  • JSwan
    JSwan Member Posts: 81
    edited October 2011

    My dentist, on request, uses a composite called Diamond Lite, which is BPA free.   

  • phoenixrising
    phoenixrising Member Posts: 139
    edited October 2011

    JSwan, thanks for the info...I looked it up.  This is an interesting page:

    http://www.mgoldmandds.com/BPA%20and%20Dental%20Composites%20-%20are%20they%20safe.htm

    Althought they say there is very little BPA emitted from the composite resins, it has been shown to trigger breast cancer cells and I don't think I want to take the chance.  I'm going to ask my dentist about the new "venus diamond" filler....I don't think he was aware of it before....guess I'll just have to educate him, hehe.

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited October 2011

    I like Breast Cancer Action - they are totally legit.  I read Dr. Mercola, but I take it with a grain of salt - I'm not into too many conspiracy theories.  I don't think oncologists prescribe chemo to line their pockets, I think they do it because they believe it will save lives.  I certainly did (and will do) every ounce of conventional treatment available to me.  However, I also believe DEEPLY in CAM therapies as well ( just got home from my second Qi gong class - incredible!) and feel that the best oncologists and medical professionals recognize the value in these treatments.  Honestly, my dad was on Gabapentin for his knee, but he hated the stuff - it made him forgetful and the pain wasn't better.  So I helped him alter his diet and recommended some supplements.  For the first time in eight years, he is off the meds and pain free.  He can't believe it, but he is psyched.  (Plus, he lost 15 pounds on what he calls the Terri-diet.)  

     Personally, I'm happy to read every label to avoid parabens and BPA, etc.  If that's what it takes, fine.  I don't consider it extreme.  I've  lost my hair and my breasts - THAT'S extreme.  The rest is a piece of cake, as far as I am concerned. 

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    Hi Sweetbean, I TOTALLY agree with your statement:

    "Personally, I'm happy to read every label to avoid parabens and BPA, etc. If that's what it takes, fine. I don't consider it extreme. I've lost my hair and my breasts - THAT'S extreme. The rest is a piece of cake, as far as I am concerned.  "

    I totally agree with (and live by) the idea that we need to live more "green," go "organic," reduce our exposure to toxins, and make healthy choices, etc., etc.

    I stand by my assertion that it's extremist and disingenuous to make untrue and sensationalist proclamations like "Komen denies BPA link to breast cancer."  

    BTW, I know there are some Breast Cancer Action fans here, but I just personally don't find them to be very upfront or credible.  They cite sources (ex. Ralph Moss) that I consider to be completely unscientific and unreliable.   A while back, they had a big campaign going on for something to do with a unscientific iodine - breast cancer link and were promoting some strange mail-order iodine  testing.  For me, there are just too many red flags for reliable information .  I think their premise is good and noble, but their underlying motives and methods, IMHO, are lacking in credibility and integrity.  

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited October 2011

    I agree that sensationalist headlines are no good.  However, I spend a lot of time on alternative sites because I believe there is a lot of useful information there that is not understood/known/distributed by my oncologist, for whatever reason.  I don't think my oncologist is trying to get rich off cancer and making big bucks from prescribing chemo.  (Trust me, she would dress better.)  However, that doesn't mean she is all-knowing and that I shouldn't do my own research.  I did a ton of CAM therapies during chemo/surgery/radiation and did amazingly, to the point where she said,"I wish we could study people like you."  Indeed.  I wish someone would.  Sometimes, the CAM therapies can't get any traction because it is impossible to do a double-blind study on them.  But there is a lot of validity to their value, no doubt.  

    I am not a fan of Komen.  I used to work in the medical non-profit research field and I haven't like Komen for a long time - they raise money and then waste it on some of the lamest research projects I have ever seen.  Their campaigns and partnerships are totally suspect.   And I thought this BEFORE I was diagnosed.  

    I don't know about BCA and the iodine thing, although I believe there is something to the iodine link -not that it is a cause or a cure, but for my money, I add a Tbsp of dulse to my green smoothie.  However, any organization that calls for greater transparency in the world of research, especially when billions are being raised with precious little to show for it.  Can Komen show me ONE drug that they have in clinical trials?  Just ONE?  After all this time and all this money, they should be able to.  My expectations are not unreasonable, as one who watched this process from the inside for several years.  But they can't. However, they have slapped a pink ribbon on everything and proceed to sue any organization that uses "for the Cure" in their name.  Blech.

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited October 2011

    Sweetbean, again, I completely agree with a lot of what you say!  Especially this:  "However, that doesn't mean she is all-knowing and that I shouldn't do my own research."  Absolutely!!

    As to Komen, regardless of how I or you personally feel about them, they do have quite an impressive list of accomplishments including grants, scholarships, community programs, sponsored programs, etc.  I don't think bringing drugs to trial directly is one of Komen's functions or intents, although they do support a lot of research that could indirectly lead to it.  Take a look at their fiscal year 2011 grant recipients:

    http://ww5.komen.org/2011researchgrants.html

    That being said, I do agree that  "However, they have slapped a pink ribbon on everything and proceed to sue any organization that uses "for the Cure" in their name. Blech."

    As for Breast Cancer Action, like I said, their mission of:  "Breast Cancer Action carries the voices of people affected by breast cancer to inspire and compel the changes necessary to end the breast cancer epidemic" is a good premise....But. 

    ETA-I seem to recall that Breast Cancer Action is somehow related to Breast Cancer Choices dot<ORG> - does anyone know?

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited October 2011

    http://www.anh-usa.org/no-more-pinkwashing/

    No More "Pinkwashing"! Support an Integrative Approach to Breast Cancer

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