False-Positives Par for Course With Yearly Mammograms
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Dear Moderators,
To quote a paragraph in this article: "Rather, annual screening picks up more small, non-life-threatening cases, which Autier called overdiagnosis, thus diluting what would otherwise be a similar proportion of advanced cases found, he argued."
Really!!! The last time I checked, doctors advocated annual screening PRECISELY to pick up more small, non-life threatening tumors which were easier to treat and had better survival outcomes the earlier they were detected. Given that medicine cannot currently determine which tumors are non-life threatening and which tumors are - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERDIAGNOSIS by annual screening beginning at age 40- if not earlier!!! One of my colleagues missed her annual mammo and had a 2 year gap. This was the mistake of her life, as the cancer metastasized during that period and her survival chances are now REDUCED! With all the good research going on in peer-reviewed journals you should have picked another publication to put on these boards. By the way, the American College of Radiology, the Society of Breast Imaging, Susan B Komen for the Cure, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, the American Cancer Society, and the National Comprehensive Cancer network ALL advocate early screening beginning at age 40 followed by ANNUAL MAMMOGRAMS after that. The Preventive Task Force never even had one oncologist on board when they made these recommendations! You owe everyone on these boards an apology for posting this garbage.
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It sounds like this is a huge push by the insurance industry to reduce their costs by convincing women that they don't need a mammogram every year. Now they are doing the same thing with prostate exams which require blood work to be done.
Since joining this site, I have met so many young women (under 40) with bc diagnosis that it would seem to me that mammograms need to be started much earlier than 40. I just saw Juliana Rancic on TV talking about her diagnosis at 36 due to a mammogram that her fertility doctor insisted she have before giving her the fertility drugs. He literally saved her life. She had to have two lumpectomies! If radiation is a fear, then thermography should be used for early screening purposes as it has no radiation involved.
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I've read many of the press releases about this latest study on mammography. I haven't read the study itself, which I need to do before I offer a serious comment. However, I can say this:
1) every8thwoman, I understand and empathize with your anger. I, too, was fuming when I saw headlines reporting these latest findings... but it's not Breastcancer.org's fault. You said, "You owe everyone on these boards an apology for posting this garbage," and I could not disagree with you more strongly. I think BCO is performing an important community service by informing us of reports like this. We might think the findings are "garbage", but they were published in a peer-reviewed medical journal and have been picked up by all the major news outlets. Actually, I think it would be irresponsible of BCO to withhold information about studies like this out of concern that the findings might upset us or we might disagree with them. IMHO, the BCO "expert commentary" that accompanies the article on the BCO website seems to be well-written, and even-handed in its tone. I think they did a nice job of "spinning" the results so that we would understand them.
2) Although the insurance industry might be happy with results like these, they didn't fund or support this study. They were not involved in the research. This was a statistical analysis of data from a large number of studies. (I need to read the actual report before I can understand how it was done.)
3) Despite everything I've said in #1 and #2, the release of this latest report really p*ssed me off. I cannot think about these results without developing a knee-jerk reaction that includes lots of fuming and curse words.
I wonder how a task force or expert panel can presume to know whether I would be more troubled by a false-positive mammogram result, versus the many false-negatives I've received (including one on the day of my biopsy). On what basis did the group decide a false-positive recall rate of 61.3%* was excessive, but 41.6% was not? Why did they conclude that it was unacceptable if 7% of mammograms led to a biopsy that turned out to be negative, but it was okay if 4.8% of mammograms led to biopsies that were negative?
Okay... "false-positives are par for the course with yearly mammograms." So what?
otter
*[ETA: My phrasing is incorrect. It's not a "false-positive recall rate" of 61.3%. What the press release said is, "Over 10 years of annual screening starting at age 40, the cumulative probability was 61.3% for a false-positive recall and 7% for a false-positive biopsy." Even that is technically not correct. What they meant (I think) is that a woman who has annual mammograms for 10 years has a 61.3% chance of being called back for a re-take that turns out to be normal, and a 7% chance of being called in for a biopsy of a suspicious area that turns out to be nothing. Once in 10 years.]
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I'd rather have a false positive than cancer. Believe me, I've had my share too but I don't regret it.
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I guess I am one of the false positives. I am also one of the ones that was misdiagnosed on biopsy even with a second opinion. I had a mastectomy in February without reconstruction and found out in July that I never did have cancer. I am glad that I do not have cancer. But, it has been much harder to deal with misdiagnosis/no cancer than knowing I had cancer. I wonder how many women have been misdiagnosed and don't know it. I met a women last week who had a mastectomy 3 years ago and also found out she did not have cancer. I was the first person she told. I read a New York Times article last year that estimates there are between 5,000 and 10,000 women misdiagnosed with early stage breast cancer a year. Shocking.
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NJMarily, I'm sorry if my remarks in my previous post came across as insensitive. What happened to you should never happen to anyone. I wonder how your biopsy could have been mis-read so badly, by so many pathologists. Isn't that malpractice? OTOH, if your tumor was misdiagnosed and you did not have cancer, why does your signature line say that you had Grade 2 DCIS?
I would like to see the NYT article you mentioned. I could understand if the authors claimed there were 5,000 to 10,000 cases of breast cancer that were "over-diagnosed" (meaning the women did have cancer but it was the "indolent" kind that wouldn't have killed them). But, 5,000 to 10,000 women were told they had breast cancer when they actually did not (= "misdiagnosed")? That's hard for me to get my head around.
I think each of us reacts to these news items and reports according to our own experience. Those of us who were told (sometimes repeatedly) that we did not have cancer when we actually did, likely have a different perspective than women who had surgery for a non-existent tumor.
Hugs...
otter
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Just once I would like to see an article on FALSE NEGATIVES. A false positve - while scary - never killed anyone. I had FOUR YEARS of digital mammos that gave me false negatives while a nearly 2 CM tumor was growing inside me.
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I agree with Otter that we react to these news items based on our own experience. Having a breast removed when there was actually no cancer is as emotionally scarring as being told there is no cancer and actually having cancer.
Otter, I stand by my earlier comment that this article was garbage. There are many more important research papers than this one that could have been presented. Please see the recommendations by all the medical organizations I listed (this is by no means a complete list) on the importance of early medical screening. What really scares me is that women might read this article and think it's OK to put off a screening mammogram for 2 years!
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I totally agree that false negatives are so much more scary than false positives.
Some papers do talk about sensitivity, etc. I think part of the problem is that the increase in mammography has NOT particularly decreased the amount of advanced breast cancer found, and that in many models of breast cancer, it is thought that *if* a breast cancer does metastasize, it often metastasizes *before* it is large enough to be seen on imaging.
Here's one abstract from Ireland that discusses false negative mammograms. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19188311
This from the Netherlandshttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19046632
This from Japan http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18795941
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As someone who was lucky enough to find cancer "early" with a routine mammogram, I am obviously pro-screening, and resentful of any suggestion that screening is not necessary. Even if my life is not prolonged by screening, if I can avoid chemo it's worth it to find the cancer earlier.
That said, this article struck me a little different from the previous... the last big "study" indicated that mammograms before age 50 were unnessary. This just talked about a longer screening interval under 50 - from 1 year to 2. While I certainly will be screening more often (6 months now), I think that screening intervals is a reasonable thing to evaluate, given the radiation (as well as the false positives I suppose).
I think the real problem here is that we don't have a good screening method. Mammograms miss too many cancers (particularly in younger women with dense breasts), and some cancers are so aggressive that it's very difficult or impossible to catch them early enough. I'd like to see more research into finding more effective screening methods, or hey even some ways to prevent or cure BC!
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Dear All
Breastcancer.org provides the Research News so the community is aware of the latest research and information on breast cancer. The Research News articles include commentary by breastcancer.org experts. The commentary with this article states
"Breastcancer.org believes that all medical decisions, including if and when to screen for breast cancer, are decisions to be made by each woman and her doctor. Breastcancer.org is still concerned about the USPSTF recommendations, since saying that women age 40 to 50 don't need routine screening mammograms could discourage women in that age group from getting mammograms. The recommendation also could have meant that insurance companies might not cover mammograms done before age 50. Fortunately, the U.S. Congress passed legislation so that will not happen."
The commentary goes on to recommend
"If you're 40 or older and have an average risk of breast cancer, yearly screening mammograms should be part of your healthcare. If your breast cancer risk is higher than average, you may want to talk to your doctor about a more aggressive breast cancer screening plan that makes the most sense for your particular situation.
There's only one of you and you deserve the best care possible. Don't let any obstacles get in the way of your regular screening mammograms.
- If you're worried about cost, talk to your doctor, a local hospital social worker, or staff members at a mammogram center. Ask about free programs in your area.
- If you're having problems scheduling a mammogram, call the National Cancer Institute (800-4-CANCER) or the American College of Radiology (800-227-5463) to find certified mammogram providers near you.
- If you find mammograms painful, ask the mammography center staff members how the experience can be as easy and as comfortable as possible for you."
For more information, visit the Breastcancer.org Mammograms pages.
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Nice post, xtine -- I agree on all counts. And, thanks, Moderators, for reiterating what was said in the "expert commentary." All good stuff.
What we fear, I suspect, is that at some point our insurance companies or Medicare will decide to adopt the more restrictive mammography guidelines as policy. Then, they'll deny reimbursement for more frequent or more sophisticated screenings, despite our doctors' recommendations. Some of them are doing that already.
So far, public pressure has been able to sway decisions about coverage by federally-funded healthcare (i.e., Medicare), and subsequently by most private insurance companies. I'm not sure that's always a good thing, but it's a fact. At some point, though, that might change.
otter
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3 of my mammograms said benign I asked for a biopsy. Where would I be if I waited another 2 years for a mammorgram? The mammogram showed something, I asked for the biopsy. It turned out to be IDC. I think our insurance companies should pay for thermography breast exams, and mammorgrams, both. We also need to push if we think something is wrong. We know our bodies better then our doctors. I also was diagnosed wih CLL last march of 2010. Out of 4 doctors and 1 hospital, none noticed for 8 years that I had cancer, CLL. So it may not always be the tests, mammograms, it could be the person reading the tests. Anymore I get all my lab work, learned how to read the blood tests, and push for biopsies if I think something isn't right. Ths is the best I can do.
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vickilf: Don't expect big insurance to support thermography when so many conventional doctors are invested in mammography equipment. When I inquired about thermography as an early diagnostic tool, my doctor just shook his head and said it wasn't reliable. Everything I've read tells me a different story, but I didn't challenge him...I will just go and pay out of my pocket to get one.
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