June 2011 A/C & T Groupies Unite!

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  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Tldrose {{{hugs}}}  Hang in there, it will get better!

    I am having my PET/CT scan tomorrow.  Really want to hear the words "no evidence of disease" but I am worried that my tumor marker test went up 10 points after chemo.   And I see the RO on Friday.  And then, one week in Florida where there will be NO breast cancer discussion!!!  Just beach, sun (hopefully), reading, an umbrella drink or two, spending time with some friends and enjoying every single minute.  It's been 16 months so far and I am tired!

  • tldrose
    tldrose Member Posts: 39
    edited October 2011

    Thanks LuvRVing - have a great trip to Florida! I hope it will be wonderful. I will send positive thoughts your way that your tumor marker test will turn out great. I admire your strength in battling for 16 months! Thanks for sharing your journey <3

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited October 2011

    Aww Tldrose, you may absolutely get this kind of stuff out in the open here.  Big hugs to you!

    Until I was diagnosed, I was blissfully unaware of what a difficult road this kind of thing is. At age 32, I didn't even have any close friends who had been through anything like cancer before.It's really hard to "get it" unless you've kind of had to face it before.  That said.. you deserve to feel supported... even if people can't entirely relate.  I hope you find that the support is really there for you, even if people are sometimes kind of awkward in how they show it (or don't).  Hope that makes sense and even if it doesn't, please know I'm sending my best to you and wishing for better days ahead.

    Michelle, can I just say your summary for the October for Tappy was awesome?!

    And everyone else..... are you starting to get some peach fuzz yet?  I'm almost a month PFC and it *does* seem like there's more than ever before.....
  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Kat - thank you!  I am checking in on those ladies from time to time, giving them the benefit of our experiences. 

    I am almost two weeks PFC and I have a headful of white fuzz - maybe about 1/4 inch and longer in some places.  I have a crop of colorless eyebrows and a few colorless eyelashes. 

    Wishing you all a great day!

    Michelle

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited October 2011

    Tldrose..Right On!!!

    I have felt this way most of the time and it is frustrating at best. Its made me down right sad from my extended family. But towards the end of my chemo last week I realized  they can't cope with anything but the milestones that we want to celebrate (i.e.last day of chemo) even though I mentioned to them as many times that I still have radiation.

    We go on and carve out our own secure hand dug bunker - make your very own sanctuary. I am stage 2b but have seen that go both ways in the blink of an eye - I have peace both with my fight that so far includes losing my breasts chemo, reconstruction, the soon to be rads to the thought of mets.. I work on peace daily because that is the most useful tool I will need in my journey. 

    keep coming here- the only place I have never felt alone 

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2011

    Oh Michelle - I hope that you get the all clear tommorrow and that the Florida trip is great....

    For TldRose - there is nothing that I can say- yes, they do not understand, and yes, you do not have to spend precious time and energy explaining.  I have relatives who are nurses and I get those comments....

    There is a thread where you can vent and a bus comes along- it is surprisingly carthartic....

  • tldrose
    tldrose Member Posts: 39
    edited October 2011

    Thanks to kks_rd, beaglesirl and pebee...I appreciate the encouragement! I know the journey we are all on is tough and thankfully we have each other to lean on with this forum. I agree with beaglesgirl, that this place is the only one where I don't feel alone. It helps so much to vent and share what we are going through! Hugs to all!

  • julee_stayin_strong
    julee_stayin_strong Member Posts: 52
    edited October 2011

    LUVRVing- haven't been on in a while, didn't recongnize you with your amazing hair!!! LOVE IT!!!

    So just had Taxol #5 yesterday, monday. So far so good, my blood counts are going down slowly, but they said that is normal and if they get too low i will have the neupogen shots for 2-3 days after. ya, just what i want is more appointments. but i should be happy that i haven't had any bad side effects from the taxol, YET. i was more tired yesterday though, came home and took a 3hr. nap. here i am complaining about chemo on monday and physical therapy on tues and thurs, which my arm is much stronger now, YA!!!  In december i will be doing radiation every day for i think 30 days, now thats when i should complain!!!

    Everyone keep their spirits up and remember we will look back on this someday. Think of all the people we can bless with our stories of encouragement, FIGHT LIKE A GIRL I SAY!!!

    My sister which is 8 years younger than me is going in for her first Mammo tonight, the insurance finally approved it, pray that all is well.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    I'm telling you, I got more compliments from that cheap costume wig than any of my so-called "real" wigs!  I might just have to wear it a few more times, and not as just a costume!

    My scan was uneventful, should have the results tomorrow.  DH and I sat outside, I had fried clams and ice cream...the weather has been so nice!

    Tldrose - I really hope you know that this is a safe place to "let it all out." When I first came to BCO, I thought it strange that there were discussion threads like Chemo October 2009...why would they still be talking about chemo?   Well, I totally get it.  We are a group of women who share a bond that will remain for years!  We have done, or are still doing, one of the hardest things in our entire lives.  And we will always want to know how each is doing...next year, five years from now, ten years from now. 

    Michelle

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Hi everyone - just got the call from my RO and my PET scan is clear!  Woohoo, chemo and surgery did their jobs, I am NED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am having the meltdown I've been waiting for, but these are tears of joy! 

    Hang in there ladies, better days are on their way!!!!

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2011

    Oh Michelle - that is such good news - I am doing the happy dance for you...!

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited October 2011

    WHOO HOO MICHELLE!!!!  It's about darn time you got that great news!  This has been a long road for you.  Now you can truly enjoy those umbrella drinks & your trip to Florida!  So very happy for you!

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited October 2011

    Michelle, that is absolutely wonderful. The result you've battled so long and hard for! Congratulations and enjoy!



    TS

  • julee_stayin_strong
    julee_stayin_strong Member Posts: 52
    edited October 2011
    SurprisedYYYYAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • julee_stayin_strong
    julee_stayin_strong Member Posts: 52
    edited October 2011

    TWISTEDSTEEL~ so you just finished 12 wks of Taxol? i am on my 5th and so far so good. how did you do? what kind of side effects did you get? did you lose your nails? so you're going to get one boob removed next month? i already had that done, first thing before chemo. it wasn't that bad at all, drain tubes are fun. NOT!!! my whole family helped drain them, even my wussy husband. LOL but get yourself one of those bras that have the holders you can velcro to it, works great. have a great day!!!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Regarding the drains, go looking at WalMart in the "activewear" department for zippered hoodies that have pockets on the insides.  They were awesome for holding drains and they cost about $10 or $12 each.  I'm short and short-waisted so there was plenty of tubing to reach the inside pockets.  I could go out with one of those on and no one was the wiser.  I found it easier to have something that held the drains lower.  Also, at the hospital they gave me a double pocket lanyard that held my drains so I could shower with them.  Another helpful little thing you never knew you needed! 

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited October 2011

    Oh my goodness Michelle, awesome news!!!

    It's nothing byy comparison, but I am pleased as hell to her back on my post-chemo MRI.  I saw over a 50% reduction in the size of the tumor, and the node involvement is quite minimal now.  It also said there was pronounced reduction in "kinetic enhancement."  Does anyone know what that means?

    In any case, the chemo did its job for me too.  Kinda makes going through the SEs feel more worthwhile. Cool

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited October 2011

    Julee, I had taxol 1st then AC. SE's on taxol were fatigue and some neuropathy. my nails didn't get really bad until i started the AC. it was like a delayed reaction to the taxol that the AC intensified. 

    my sweet mother is looking for a nanny for me. that's what I'm calling it. lol. she is insisting that i have a caregiver for a couple of days after i get out of the hospital. she cracks me up. i am going to just go along with it so she can feel like she's contributing without actually having to do much. i've been putting her off the whole chemo time bc i just didn't want anyone extra hovering. now i gotta let my mamma have her mamma time... in a way... not actually caring for me but making sure i'm cared for. lol.

    Michelle, thanks for the tip about the walmart hoodies.

    TS 

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2011

    Okay - a question....

    the week before I started Taxol, my liver enzemes were fine - or at least chemo fine.

    Then, I get my first taxol - liver enzemes are still fine.

    One week after first taxol, some liver enzemes are elevated, as in four times the normal rate.  Definately out of chemo levels.

    Then this week (Taxol round 2), the liver enzemes were down, some significantly, but still out of bounds and not chemo levels.

    So, the onc wants a chest cat scan - a chest one because the company that I work for is changing insurance comanies, so he wants the whole chest just to save time and hassle factors.

    The Onc opinion is that after 9 rounds of chemo (4 TC pre surgery, 4 AC after surgery, and one T at that test), my liver is just not having a good time.  He went through all of my meds and none of them were an issue.  The rest of my bloodwork is perfect - so perfect that it looks like a non-chemo person.  The other liver blood results were within range.

    Question - should I be worried?  Michelle - what are the tumor markers that you mentioned earlier - can you post them here?  Thank you everyone..... as you can imagine, I am going to be a bit concerned until I get the cat scan done and then the results.

    Beth

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Beth - I had a little problem with liver enzymes in the middle of Taxol, but they did come back to normal and were not all that elevated.  You've had more chemo than I had...and my tumor was bigger.  Maybe your liver is just screaming uncle!!!

    The tumor marker test is the CA27.29.  Mine were about 65 when I had my BMX, then they went down to 44 and then back up to 54.  The problem with this test is that there are lots of things that can cause false positives.  The result is considered normal if it is below 38.  There is also the CEA and the CA 15-3.    Some of the Stage IV ladies have 27.29 scores in the normal range even though they have mets; others have scores above 1000.  It's all over the place and some oncologists don't like to use it because of that.   I've also read that markers can rise right after treatment.  So in my case, I would expect my onco to rerun the test when I go back for my six week follow-up.  Usually a rising 27.29 would cause the onco to do the PET/CT, which was done in my case. It is the more definitive test.

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2011

    Thank you Michelle - I am looking at one page (missing the first page - I can get it tommorrow) of the blood work.  I do not see the tests that you mentioned, so I will see if they are on the first page and see what the results are.

    I am glad that someone else had this side effect, while it sucks, it makes me feel better that it may be just another bump on the  road.   

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited October 2011

    My liver enzymes inexplicibly went up and down during Taxol.  One week they were quite high, then two weeks later they were as normal as could be.  Other than doc wondering aloud if it could be related to tylenol that I took for the bone pain, she more or less figured it was a directly related SE.  Best of luck with the scans! 

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited October 2011

    Congrats Michelle!!! Have a blast in Florida! Wish I were going with you!

    I had to stop chemo a week ago. I had so much swelling in my hands and when it went down, I had no feeling in my fingers. Last Friday was my last one. Today I had DD Herceptin. I haven't had heartburn in a while, and boy I have it tonight. Hoping for no more SE. I'm beat. MO wanted my surgery moved up, so it will be on 11/7. My WBCs are still tanking, so not sure what's going on there.

    Beth, Thinking about you and hoping your chest ct is okay.

    Hope everyone is doing okay.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Well, nothing is ever simple for me.  I went to the RO at Dana Farber yesterday and he wants my tissue expanders removed...another surgery!  He says that he needs my skin flat against my chest wall so he can use electron beam technology to radiate the chest wall without damaging my heart, lungs and thyroid.  How can I say no?  Soooo, I have a tentative date of 10/26, two days after we get back from Florida.  I'll have to be boobless until the middle of next year, after I am healed from radiation, then I can proceed with reconstruction.  One step forward, two steps back. 

    Rose - sorry about the heartburn.  I am still taking Prilosec and Pepcid every day.  My MO said to take them for a couple of months.  But with radiation, I may need them longer. 

    Beth - hope your chest ct is clear.  Less insurance hassles sounds like a good idea to me.

    Hope you all have a great weekend!

    Michelle

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited October 2011

    Michelle, From everything I've read, and from what the DIEP surgeon from HUP said, it's best to get the TEs out. You'll get the best results without harm to other organs. It sucks that you'll have another procedure. My SO is compassionate and I love her, but I think she feels that all woman want to wake up with boobs, so she keeps asking me about having TEs placed. I hate that I am going to be mutilated, but if it means that the affected skin will be gone, and the radiologist can do his job, than I can worry about whether or not I will have reconstruction later.

    All things considered, now that I've been feeling better, I am really struggling, emotionally. I feel like I'm closet-crying constantly, and can nolonger talk to anyone about it. I'm a broken record. I'm full of complaints. I'm scared. I keep evaluating the stress I've had in my life, raising my husband's kids, and how they treated me along with his ex-wife, and I have come to the conclusion that my husband, who I love, is responsible for all the stress, and I want y husband, but I nolonger want the stress in my life. My younger step-daughter, who I love as well, gave her screw-up mother (who left them and moved to Florida when they were little), my Caringbridge account. I feel violated and hurt. I feel like all these years, my husband tried to keep the peace, and in turn, permanently hurt me and when it comes to his daughter, he continues to do so. My older step-daughter sent out her wedding list. My family has been pivital in helping us raise her, by including them as part of our family, showering them with gifts and college money and love, did not invite my family to the wedding. She's had no consideration for what I'm going through, and I don't know when the wedding is, but I have a feeling I will still be going through this hell. She made her half-sister from her mother's side a maid of honor, but my children are not. My kids think of her as a celebrity because she is hardly in their lives and when she is, they are all over her.She will NEVER admit it, but she hates my children because they are mine, and she was manipulated by her mother, and my husband let it happen because he wanted to be their friend rather than their father. My one sister has wittnessed almost all of the abuse, and she wants me to not let it bother me. Really? How?

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited October 2011

    Oh my goodness, I just wrote the best post and my puter crashed trying to upload it!  Let me try again.....

    (((((Rose)))))  I think sometimes people forget that all the other drama in life doesn't go away just because we have cancer.  It can be a huge challenge to cope with our dx AND all the other junk too.

    As far as I'm concerned, you can vent here any time you need to.  We get it, ya know?  But I'm also wondering if, with stuff this big, it might be helpful for you to work with a counselor... just to sort through it all with a neutral party whose job it is to keep your well-being in the forefront.  Which is a must so long as you're fighting for your health.

    Specific to the CaringBridge account, there is a way to protect it with a password if that gives you an extra level of privacy.  Let me know if you want help doing this, I had one on my account for a long time.

    Anyway, I really just wanted you to know I hear you.  I'm also sending along warm fuzzies while you work through this difficult time...

    Hope everyone else is doing well this weekend.  I am working hard to get the house cleaned as much as possible before my surgery on Wednesday.....

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited October 2011

    Just a quick note to share that I had a lumpectomy and SNB today.  It went as well as it could have gone, I felt like I was in good hands from start to finish and I didn't have to stay the night, yippee!

    But the best news of the day is........ all nodes were clear!!  Not sure if this is due to the neoadjuvant chemo or not, but I'll take it either way. Wink  Will get final path at my follow-up appointment in 7-10 days.

    The tech who helped perform the wire localization was a fellow survivor - 4 years NED - who had the same MO and SO I have.  Talking with her about our experiences really helped.  We had quite a few laughs about the wacky things chemo does to our poor bodies.  Happy to say she looks great.  That'll be us soon, girls!  (((Hugs)))

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited October 2011

    I'm getting ready for surgery. Wish I were having a baby instead, since I feel like I've been nesting ;)

    Kat, that is such great news. It is so comforting when you have a supportive team.

    Hope everyone is well. Rose

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited October 2011

    Rose, you're early in November right?  I can relate to the nesting feeling... I made preparations weeks ahead of time.  Like with so many things BC-wise, I think the waiting is the hardest part.

    Much love to all!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Yeahhh, Kat!  Doing the happy dance for you!  And hoping the pathology comes back with nothing but good news!

    Rose - good luck with your surgery!  I remember that nesting thing so many years ago (like 30-42 years ago...lol). 

    I'm definitely having my TEs removed on 10/26 and I have radiation planning scheduled for 11/15.  Everything is going rather quickly on my end.  So I will probably start rads after Thanksgiving and finish some time in the middle of January.  Then I am taking a long break before "re-reconstruction."  I've lost two summers in a row to BC, I'm taking next summer off and will probably schedule DIEP for September. 

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