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  • beccad
    beccad Member Posts: 326
    edited October 2011

    That even makes donuts look unappetizing.

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2011

    PINKED OUT ALREADY. Have thought of excellent T-shirt which everyone on this site would buy--it's NOT pink, and it says, "Very aware of breast cancer, thank you."

    Note my avatar...the Home Depot workers thought they had an insane lady laughing at their sign and taking pictures with the phone...At Home Depot, OCTOBER IS FIRE SAFETY MONTH!!!!

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited October 2011

    I for many months have been ticked over the pink stuff all around.  As i became more informed I became down right angry.  I have a constant reminder of BC the instant I look down.  I didnt need a reminder when I had clothes on and wasnt even thinking about it.  There was a time when it was in every thought of my mind as I was awake.  Then it dawned on me.  Why did the pink bother me so much.  Why was I so mad at the color.  It wasnt the color its self.  Its because Im so damn pissed I had cancer, thats what I was so pissed at.  As each day goes by I heal physically and I also have to heal mentally as well.  I know things will never be the same again but I cant live in hate and try to heal and move on to a life in a different way.

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2011

    Paula,

    I hear every word, I hear you.  I am glad you are not living in hate.  We are living in HUMOR.  I am glad you are getting to the place where you no longer have to hate the pink.  Myself, I still hate it, it's annoying, intrusive, and over-commercialized.  But maybe I'll get over that? (I don't think so).

  • Raili
    Raili Member Posts: 435
    edited October 2011

    I found this on FaceBook - some company made a Barbie-like doll they're calling the Pink Glove Dance Nurse!!!  Ugh!!  http://www.scrubs123.com/medline-dolls-deb-pink-glove-dance-nurse.html

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2011

    You know, I like the Barbie. I like the message on the side.  I know a lot of nurses fiercly dedicated to caring for breast cancer patients who walk and run every year for the cause.  That's what I see when I look at that Barbie, kind of like it

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited October 2011

    This is a duplicate post.  I put it in another thread about the pinking of October... but it's so, um, special, that I can't resist posting it here, too.

    This is the picture Estee Lauder is using to advertise their 2011 Breast Cancer Awareness campaign.  I am not kidding -- it's on this Estee Lauder BCA web page:  http://www.bcacampaign.com/us/index.shtml

    I showed the pic to my dh, and he asked, "What was it they're advertising???"

    otter

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2011

    I sent an email to them stating how upset I was with this ad.    

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2011

    Otter, reading your post had me on the floor, because, I had the same reaction your DH did. (And my DH did when I showed it to him.) 

    I'm just relieved this year that I'm past the anger some of these used to generate and I can just laugh about it, or at least roll my eyes. 

    So, Otter and Rock, thanks for starting this thread.  I think I measured my healing by it.  I have some appts coming up, and, pretty sure I've bought myself some scans being ordered, and I can still laugh at this thread.  It feels like a major victory

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2011

    You know for the first couple of years I was all into the pink. Now I see women dying, money people spend for pink ribbon decorated awareness products just going into corporate coffers and more and more women dying.I am more outraged at this point han ever.

    If our comfort with Pink October is a measure of our emotional healing then I guess I have regressed.

     This Thursday I will go to a fashion show for the local Cancer Center. All of the money stays there. Some goes for the prescription aid fund for cancer patients, some for imaging equipment and some for a support group. That is a fundraiser I can love. 

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2011

    I got an auto reply that they were out of the office, for the Lauder ad email (complaint) I sent.   

    Some days I embrace the Pink, other days I want nothing to do with it.   The mirror reminds me every day, so I donot need to be reminded.   The color pink is one of my favorites, and I look good in it.   Wearing it does not take away from the seriousness of finding a cure, MY opinion.   But buying something just because it is pink and says BC -- no.    

    I hope this weekend is sunny, warm and that each of you have no pain, side effects and can enjoy time with family and friends.   Hugs and Blessings, Nancy 

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2011

    Rosemary, I totally agree about the fundraising. I tend to seek out areas to contribute where there is little overhead and money stays local.  I don't mean that I ever lose sight of the horrible times with this disease.  I just marked my calendar for a friends very drastic surgery (palliative--not curative) coming up this week and was remembering the friend that died of breast cancer last Christmas Day.  I see nothing to cover up with pink ribbons about any of that.  Every day I go into a career that was changed due to my neuropathy and fight the constant pain from neuropathy and lymphedema. I too get tired of young women who probably wear pink ribbons and buy pink M&M's looking at my sleeve and glove with disgust and saying "I hope I never get it."  I'm just reflecting and celebrating on the ability to finally reach a point where I'm not angry at the world for what breast cancer has left me with. A year ago I saw a can of pink bug spray and went off on the pink ribbon marketting.  DH calmly pointed out the pink was that it was supposed to be safe around children or pets and that not everything was related to breast cancer.  This year when I saw a pink bag of dog food I just looked further until I noted that it was some special formulation for female dogs and nothing to do with breast cancer. That is a personal victory I am reveling in.  It doesn't make me forget to help and support my friends who aren't in that positition right now.

    Edited to add: Rosemary I hope that the above didn't come off as angry--it wasn't meant to.  I just don't want you to think that  because I'm not angry at the pink advertising anymore I'm not aware of how horribly not smiling and pink breast cancer is, and that I am not cynical about how much is care and how much is marketing.

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2011

    GramE you said it perfectly.  I like pink, always been one of my favorite colors (well more of a mauve but that is splitting hairs).  Buying because it is pink just leaves me cold.  You are so right

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2011

    I'm with you, Rosemary.  I'll just stay angry and disgusted that corporations have turned our disease, a disease that left many of us disfigured, in pain, jobless, and dead, into a marketing tool. 

    And you know what?  I'll just stay angry at the world, too.  You know why?  Because a butt-load of research dollars was diverted to HIV/AIDS rather than cancer.  HIV/AIDS.  A disease that, for the most part, is PREVENTABLE.  (Disclaimer:  I know some get the disease inadvertently and to those of you that read this, I apologize.)

    Hey Rosemary, let's go kick some stuffed puppies around.  ;-)

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2011

    Sorry for the crossposting, but this, which I just posted on another  -oh yuck, irt's pink! thread will be of interest here:

    This link has already been posted, but I really recommend reading the Marie Claire article on pink ribbon excesses. I just have to highlight some snippets along with the link. It is entitled The Bug Business of Breast Cancer (Sept. 2011)


    Here are more excerpts than I should publish, but if it gets more people to read - it's for a cause. It even suggests we may be wrong when we think any pink has to do some good (my italics and bold):


    Though breast cancer researchers and advocates perpetually plead for more money, the disease is, in fact, awash in it. Last year, the National Institutes of Health, the nation's top agency for health-related research, allocated $763 million to the study of breast cancer, more than double what it committed to any other cancer.
    ................
    Breast cancer has made a lot of people very wealthy. The fact is, thousands of people earn a handsome living extending their proverbial pink tin cups, baiting their benefactors with the promise of a cure, as if one were realistically in sight. They divert press, volunteers, and public interest away from other, more legitimate organizations, to say nothing of the money they raise, which, despite the best intentions of donors, doesn't always go where it's supposed to.
    ......
    Last June, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed suit against the Coalition Against Breast Cancer, calling it a "sham charity" that for 15 years "served as a personal piggy bank" for the group's insiders. According to the complaint, founder Andrew Smith; his girlfriend, Debra Koppelman; and their associates pilfered almost all of the $9.1 million raised in the past five years alone. Other eye-opening claims:
    .................
    "There is a lot of deception that goes on with breast cancer groups," says Daniel Borochoff, president of the American Institute of Philanthropy, a Chicago-based nonprofit watchdog group. One problem, he says, is that breast cancer charities are often run by well-meaning but inexperienced survivors or relatives who duplicate the efforts of established organizations. They use donor dollars to print their own educational brochures, though they certainly exist elsewhere; they organize events to promote awareness - "Skydive to End Breast Cancer!" - then blow too much of their funds getting these events off the ground. There's no requirement of a college degree or business experience to run a charity. You don't even need a clean legal record. (The treasurer for the Coalition Against Breast Cancer was a Long Island housepainter with several warrants for unpaid child support.) Even the names of many charities are designed to fool donors into believing they are bigger and more impressive than they are. Case in point: Though its moniker suggests it presides over a vast network, The Breast Cancer Charities of America is a tiny, three-woman outfit operating just outside Houston that banked $2 million in 2009, mostly through telemarketers.
    .....................
    The Breast Cancer Society, based in Mesa, Arizona, has made an art form of this kind of creative accounting. Founded in 2007 by James T. Reynolds II, now 37, the organization provides critically ill breast cancer patients across the country with cash grants to pay for everything from groceries to medical bills, Reynolds says. In 2009 (the most recent year for which tax records are available), the BCS claims it raised $50 million in contributions, the bulk of which went to supplying medicines to hospitals in Third World countries like Guatemala and Ethiopia, ostensibly for the treatment of breast cancer. (Reynolds says he has visited only three of the eight hospitals that purportedly received these medicines.) Press him on his group's finances and he admits that, in fact, BCS raised just $15 million in cash donations in 2009. The other $35 million represented his estimate of medications that the BCS accepted as gifts or bought at a major discount but then listed on its books as having much higher values. For example, BCS reported that it sent $8.8 million worth of goods to hospitals in East Asia. "I'd have to look it up, but it probably cost us maybe $40,000 to procure and distribute that," Reynolds concedes in a phone interview.
    .....................
    For anyone worried about where their donations are going, here's a useful tip: Skip the pink-ribbon merchandise. Because no one really owns the rights to what has become the universal symbol of breast cancer (though Susan G. Komen for the Cure trademarked its own version), peddling the logo has become a massive racket, overrun by slick profiteers exploiting the public's naive assumption that all pink purchases help the cause. Often they don't. Tchotchke vendor Oriental Trading sells an extensive line of pink-ribbon party favors, including "Find the cure" car magnets and "I wear pink in honor of" buttons. Save for proceeds from its pink rubber duckies, part of a sponsorship deal with Komen, not a penny of Oriental Trading's breast cancer novelties goes to breast cancer. Three years ago, veteran nurse Christina McCall, the daughter of a breast cancer survivor, launched Pink Ribbon Marketplace, an online store based in Germantown, Tennessee, with a vast array of pink-hued goodies. "As a woman and the mother of three daughters, it quickly became apparent that creating a business that gives back to breast cancer victims and their families was important to me," she writes on her store's website. "I personally chose our local American Cancer Society and Reach to Recovery Program to be the receipient [sic] of funds we donate." But when asked about those donations, McCall fesses up that, in fact, no monies have ever gone to the American Cancer Society or its breast-cancer-targeted Reach to Recovery program.
    ..................................
    Google "pink ribbon," and the first listing to pop up is pinkribbon.com, the glossy website of Pink Ribbon International, an Amsterdam-based outfit owned by Dutch businessman Walter Scheffrahn. The site serves up an eclectic mix of breast cancer information and merchandise, including a yard sign ($14.99) and barbecue apron ($16.99) embossed with the site's logo. Over the past seven years, Scheffrahn has shelled out 200,000 euro ($288,000) to buy the rights to the enviable pinkribbon.com domain name in roughly 40 countries. "There's not a real global awareness of the pink ribbon," says Scheffrahn. "We want to take it to the next stage." But despite its official-looking packaging, his site is riddled with misleading information, including a statement that Scheffrahn's company donates "10 percent of its company capacity and funds" to charity. Exactly how much is that? Scheffrahn says it refers to manpower, not actual dollars. Scheffrahn also claims that 90 percent of donations made to breast cancer through his websites go to charity. (Ten percent is reserved for overhead, he says.) But this, as it turns out, is also a bit fuzzy. Scheffrahn says his entire Web network generated "something like $20,000" by the end of last year.

    Full Link:
    http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/breast-cancer-business-scams-3

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2011

    Thanks, Athena!  Wonderful info.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2011

    I thought the pink mania was getting ridiculous even before I got breast cancer.  In fact one of my first comments was "Oh crap, I got the pink disease ...  I hate pink." 

    The merchandising has only gotten worse in the last 5 years.  Now that I know that there are real needs out there not being met ... and how much of the funds raised go just to perpetuating more merchandising instead of to research ... and how much of the stuff with pink ribbons on it is not even donating any money ... I'm even more disgusted by the immense misuse of resources that a lot of this is.

    I don't think it has anything to do with being angry about my breast cancer.  It's more that I don't like seeing breast cancer (or any disease) being used as just another marketing campaign.    

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    Oh yeah regarding that ad with the lovely skinny models and their pink lips and ribbons and perfectly pert breasts.... I want to show them what MY body looks like now !!!!

  • thepinkbirdie
    thepinkbirdie Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2011
    "Komen Lowcountry Race for the Cure® is challenging all area businesses to get creative with the color PINK! The idea is to decorate your storefront in a pink theme. Registrations are due on Wednesday, September 21 at 5pm. All windows must be decorated by Friday, September 30th, 2011 and remain up through the Komen Lowcountry Race for the Cure® on October 15, 2011. The windows can be decorated in whatever fashion you choose, but you must display the Race poster.This is a competition, so windows will be judged on creativity,breast cancer awareness and the ultimate pink pizzazz!Winners will be announced on the radio as well as on ABC News 4 Lowcountry Live. The grand prize winner will also have a live radio remote broadcast from their business."It pisses me off that Komen promotes this stuff.
  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2011

    charlottesmama, yes!  One of my May08 friends says "Shirts up for Breast Cancer Awareness"!!!

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    The pink bubble wrap just about put me over the edge.



    I'm so grateful to know I'm not the only Pink Fan NOT!!!! Here's a good book to read: Pink Ribbon Blues. Also great article in today's New York Times business section about the pinking of America.



  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    Shirts Up For Breast Cancer Awareness!!! I LOVE it!!!!!?,

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    Hmmm... Maybe time for a topless run for reality?

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2011

    I like it!  "Run for Reality!"  What's our ribbon color?  Pink with the little red circle/slashes all over it?

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    Topless Run for Fun. Anyone interested?

  • thepinkbirdie
    thepinkbirdie Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2011

    Run for Reality!  I like it, too!

    Maybe it can be scheduled on the same days as the Komen races. 

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    My favorite recent protest sign said, "down with zippers!" Gotta love the humor.



    "Got tits?"

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    Topless Run for Fun. "got tits?"



  • thepinkbirdie
    thepinkbirdie Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2011

    My husband and I were talking about all of the pink slogans, and the Breast Fest 2011 that was recently held at a local bar.

    I don't understand how and why some of these people think it's okay for something like Breast Fest.

    Would a slogan like, "get down and dirty at the Colon Cancer Carnival" or a "Testicular Ball" to raise awareness for testicular cancer be accepted? 

  • charlottesmama
    charlottesmama Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2011

    I'm going to gather my local brave breast cancer gals to pose like that photo!

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