I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited October 2011

    It is a sad day losing someone like Steve Jobs.

    DH surgery is at 11 this morning, then I'm off to see the Onc for my 6 month visit. It will be a very long day!

  • ritaz
    ritaz Member Posts: 186
    edited October 2011

    I agree with the sadness of the loss of Steve Jobs...Bought my first IPod in 2004 and never looked back...Now on a MacAir...So much easier to navigate than Microsoft...He was only 1 month older than me...Yikes!  Just goes to show:  it doesn't matter how much money you have, your health is not something that can be bought...RIP Steve Jobs...

     Sunflowers:  OH MY on that article about Pink products!  I was always skeptical about the pink ribbon stuff - now I'm doubly sure of not buying that junk...

    Is Pinktober over yet? 

    Oh, one more thing:  Don't know who recommended the "Emporer of all Maladies" - FANTASTIC book...Amazing what has happened in 100 years...Makes understanding this disease so much clearer...Thank YOU!

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2011

    I finally got through The Emporer of All Maladies. It was great but parts of it just made me so sad I had to put it down for a while.

    My former coworker's mom with a brian tumor died Tuesday night. I really do loathe cancer.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2011

    I had The Emperor of All Maladies on hold at the library, but I cancelled it. I'm just not ready to read it yet. I read Bathsheba's Breast-a history of breast cancer. It was good, but that was enough for now.

    Mary 

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited October 2011

    Well DH got home after 6 hours at the dermatologist office. He has 3 layers of stitches as well as 24 staples in his back. It was much larger of an area involved!

    My visit with the Onc. was good. My blood work looks great. As he said the blood of a much younger person as he put it. Will know the tumor markers tomorrow, hope they are good too.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2011

    I read Bathsheba's Breast, too . . . it was gruesomely fascinating to learn how breast cancer has been treated (or not) over the years.  And the anecdote that gave the book its title was really interesting.  For those who haven't read the book, a doctor was looking at a Rembrandt painting -- can't remember the name or exactly what was depicted, other than, duh, Bathsheba with her breasts exposed -- and "diagnosed" breast cancer from the image.  It turns out that Rembrandt's mistress/model died fairly soon after the painting was done.  I'm not sure that a cause of death was recorded, but from what's known -- and from the evidence of the painting -- it was almost certainly breast cancer.

    I guess what gets to me about the story is the thought of someone bringing their clinical experience (or obsession, maybe?) with them to the art museum, so that they look at a Biblical scene painted 350 years ago and instead of seeing the composition, or the light, or the technique or whatever, they see a patient.  Strange and poignant, too, to think of this 17th century Dutch woman, who may not even have known she was ill, posing nude for her lover; and of her lover faithfully reproducing the evidence of her illness.

    (Mary, it's been a while since I read the book, so please correct me if I'm garbling this.  And like you, I have yet to tackle Emperor of All Maladies.  I do want to read it, though.)

    Linda 

    Kira and I cross-posted, so this is edited to add congrats on the good blood work, and to pass along best wishes to your DH.  Hope they got good margins and he heals quickly.  That sure is a f*#*load of staples!

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2011

    Kira .. so glad you got good news today.  My thoughts are with your DH ... I'm sure he's quite sore with such a large area being resected.  Hoping for clean margins all round!

    Hugs,

    Bren

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited October 2011

    ((Kira)) great news!

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2011
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2011

    Kira hoping DH feels better soon and that they got it all.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2011

    Lewing-yes, that pretty much sums up the reason for the title of the book. When I read the book, I was so grateful that I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2009, instead of even 10 years ago. The treatments in the very early days were horrific. It was also kind of depressing to find out that "cure" rates have not greatly improved over the years. I think that's why I'm not quite ready to read The Emperor of All Maladies. Too close for comfort, yet.

    Mary 

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited October 2011

    I think that those of you who are reading any books about BC are very brave. I know that with BC there are many variables, there are many treatments, the treatments are evolving and we all are different. I know what is necessary about my own case. I trust that there are people out there working on better and more effective treatments. After that  . . .   I don't really want to dwell on it or read about it. Is that living in the land of DeNial or escaping or just carrying on? Whatever, it's the way for me.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2011

    lassie -- I actually found "The Emperor" interesting for the fact that it told me what tx were/weren't available when my mother was dx'd back in 1967.  I'd always wondered about that.  The book is interesting, but certainly leaves out a great deal of info that I remember learning from my years at Princess Margaret.  I'm interested now in reading "Bathsheba's Breast".

    kira -- thinking of you and your DH, and hoping for good results.  Waiting for that kind of news is the pits!

    Thank you so very, very much and RIP Steve Jobs.  I bought a Mac several months ago and was SO happy to say Buh bye to that Microsoft crap!  In fact, the only good thing about Microsoft is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation......

    Hugs to everyone! 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2011

    I have some pretty sad news today.  Our Nicki (Chemosabi) is going into Pallative care.  She's not doing well.  Heartbroken here.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    Kira - hoping your DH is well, and healing.

     Oh, Blue, I've been thinking we were going to have to face that - prayers for Nicki.  What a colorful, spirited Chemosabi - hope she's feeling all our love and warm good thoughts - and knows she's never alone.

    eta - Blue, where is that thread?

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited October 2011

    The pancreatic cancer that Steve Jobs had, was at the tail end of his pancreas.....with that type you can get more time, and the treatment works better...........Patrick Swayze, Michael Landon, Pavoritti, and most who died within a year had pancreatic cancer at the "head" of the pancreas.............that is deadly..........my husbands was at the same spot , however he was fortunate (if you can call it that) to live 2 years and 9 months....he was young, only 57, but so were most of the other names I mentioned above....................it is a horrible form of cancer (not that there is a good form), and very little hope, when you get it..

    Steve Jobs handled his well, and it was a great loss of such a brilliant mind...........It is sad.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2011

    (((Chemosabi)))  Nicki's fought long and hard.  I hope she gets relief from her pain and suffering.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2011

    Oh I'm so, so sad to hear about Nicki.  She has had such a tough time, and how she managed to continue nursing throughout is just astounding.  I hope she is comfortable and pain-free, and surrounded with the love of her DH and family.

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited October 2011

    Blue, please let Nicki's family know that our hearts are with them, if you can.

    This damned disease.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited October 2011

    Hi Susie!  I am also sorry we didn't meet up in France--I didn't make any of my dates, actually--but I am glad you had fun.  I know we had a great time.

    I don't know Nicki but I am sorry to hear of her situation just as I was saddened to hear about Steve Jobs' passing.  Our lives are so finite already, its especially sad when they are shortened by cancer. 

    I scheduled my annual mammo today. . . .I've been playing ostrich about the whole thing which is, I confess, part of the reason I have not been around.  Much nicer to pretend that none of it happened, don't you think?

    But.

    Today is my 11th wedding anniversary--almost down to the minute actually!  Smile  And the fact is, I want to be here for my 22d wedding anniversary and if I made it to 33 years, that wouldn't be so bad either.  So I made my appointment and I took my Vit D and I'm back for the support.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all the Canadians!  Happy Columbus Day or perhaps better I should say Happy Launch of the Adverse Possession of North America by the Europeans 

    And now off to lunch with DH. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2011

    Morning Girls!!

    Sad to hear another of our sisters is losing the battle.

    It's our wedding aniversary today (8th Oct). I had forgotten until last night when I saw someone say they almost missed their cancerversary. 34 years!! I definitely deserve 34 purple hearts for that :)

    Hope you have a great lunch 3montsmama - Happy Anniversary!!!

    MRI etc next Friday, then seeing the surgeon for a check up the following Wednesday. I also need to get my thyroid ultrasound done, so I'll try to do that before I see her.

    My foot is a lot better, but still some pain. The interview for the job at work is on Monday afternoon.

    Sue

  • artsee
    artsee Member Posts: 1,576
    edited October 2011

    You know after reading thread after thread, I'm most assuredly convinced that cancer is caused by stress.

    For myself...two years after my husbands bad heart attack...bloop...there it was. It sounds like so many have had bumps in the road before BC.Cry

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2011

    Major nasty thunderstorm headed our way - WTF? and it's only 7am.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2011

    Artsee-I'm with you on stress helping to cause breast cancer. Mine appeared almost 2 years after a hideous time with my daughter. Never been so stressed in my life as I was at that time. 

    Mary 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2011

    Artsee - I'm convinced mine was caused by HRT, not stress - although sometimes living with my DH can be stressful :)

    Just looked at the weather bureau storm warning - it has a note on the map - 'This thunderstorm is very dangerous'. Hope fully it weakens a bit before it hits us.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited October 2011

    I think stress played a significant role in my situation.  I was stressed for years and it culminated the two years before diagnosis.

    Of course, have I improved my ability to not get stressed?  NO!  sigh. . . .

    susie, is this your normal thunderstorm season?  We are being told by the weather that our winter will be colder and wetter than one might expect--more chances of snow and wind storms--and to prepare for power failures.  I know that the NW has gotten some doozies in the past--it will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

    I confess---bringing it all back round to stress--some days I get excited by the idea of a blizzard or power failure because it means I can stay home and sleep. . . .!

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited October 2011

    Blue, please let Nicki's family I am praying for her and them.

    3monst, did you have fun on the vaca?

    I also agree that stress plays a major role. I was stressing out over paying two mortgages for 8 months then BAM, 1 year later.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2011

    3monst - Yes, it's Spring and the start of the wet season - hasn't really been hot enough for thunderstorms - this one started way out west and is moving towards the coast. It's hitting us now - so far so good. I got DH up and cooked him breakfast in case we lose power. Got to go and do the groceries - will wait until it passes of course.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2011

    Storm nearly passed - no where near as bad as they predicted. DH now complaining that I woke him - bloody hell - did he want a cooked breakfast or not? Men!!!!

    Poppy is hiding out under our bed - little sweetie.

    Off to do the groceries - anything I can bring you back?

    Sue

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited October 2011

    HI everyone,

    I haven't been on in a long time.  I read but don't post much.  I hope everyone is doing well. 

    The weather in Montreal is beautiful, and the forecast is warm and sunny for Thanksgiving.  What are everyone's plans for Thanksgiving? 

    I agree with that stress is a factor when it comes to cancer.  I went through a very traumatic time in the few years before dx. 

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