August 2011 chemo, anyone w/ me?!
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Allformy4, SE stands for side effects.
I was talking with my hubby last night and we agreed for me, the taxol has been worse for se. I feel horrible. Today is day 4. Still have icky taste in my mout, sweats, headache, body aches. I get it every 2 weeks.
My Onc told me that there really aren't any specific vitamins or minerals to help with se and the chmo. I had asked her specifically. I do take b complex, good for skin (hair) for when it grows back in!
Hugs. To all
jennifer -
I received Taxol #2 on Oct.3 and am feeling a little more achey with this one. Definitley more sweats and headaches. I'm getting it 1x/wk for 12 wks. It could be that I'm still recovering from shingles. Taxol IS going better, for me so far, than doing the AC. But, the neuropathy s/e are scarier.
I am taking an extra B6 100mg 2x/day, in adddition to my multi w/extra B vitamins.
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Robyn and anyone else who is almost done with chemo, BRAG AWAY! You have every right to! And I will be here congratulating you!!
JMULL - I am definitely not brave enough to go out in public with just a scarf or hat. I work full time, too, with about 150 people so I just can't do it. So I pretty much wear the wig every day unless I know for sure that I'm not going anywhere. I actually don't have any children BUT did you say your daughter turned 12 on the 26th of September? That's my birthday, yay!
allformy4 - I have tissue expanders in and I am going to be doing radiation with them. But I have to wait 6 months for my exchange surgery after rads...
Chava - I am so hoping for hair regrowth during Taxol. I am also hoping that since I haven't fully last my brows and lashes, that I won't lose anymore (fingers crossed).
Jennifer - I'm so sorry that the Taxol has been worse for you. That is no bueno.
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Chava, it's interesting that your ONC told you your hair may start to grow back on Taxol. Mine told me it won't and I'll likely lose my eyebrows and eyelashes. I wonder if that's because you're getting 12 weekly doses and I'm getting 4 DD every two weeks. I imagine with the 4 DD each dose would be much stronger so that may case additional hair loss. Who knows???
Ellen, thanks for the compliment. I do like the new wig much more than the others and the large cap is so much more comfortable although still a littile itchy! I have been avoiding cameras for the most part but I did get some pictures taken with my new Great-Niece on the weekend. Couldn't resist a photo with the baby for my scrapbook!
I've also been trying to follow some of the advice in the AntiCancer book where I can. I've been using almond milk for my smoothies, eating more veggies and fruit and trying to buy more organic stuff. Will take a bit of effort but every little bit helps, I think! I've also been drinking lots of green tea; adding turmeric to soups, stews and sauces; and eating 2 squarest of dark chocolate every day. The hardest part for me is cutting down on sugar. I have to admit I love my chocolate and candy! Eliminating alcohol hasn't been hard because I honestly haven't felt like drinking at all since my diagnosis. I do love my white wine though so that might be a tough one too!
Jennifer, sorry to hear you're having a hard time with the Taxol. I'm on Day 3 and so far it's not too bad. I don't have the metalic taste the way I did with AC. I have a bit of numbness in my fingers but no body aches yet. I keep waiting for it to hit me!
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I was told the metallic taste is from the cytoxin. I still have my brows and lashes. They don't seem affected, and I hope that the last dose on Monday won't do anything to them! Under 4 days until my LAST treatment. I am thinking that I might be sobbing w/ relief during the entire infusion...
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vtEllen - congrats on your last dose - I will be cheering for you on Monday! Michelleo - love the new wig! Chava - my onc told me the same thing about hair regrowth on taxol - must be due to the weekly smaller does. I haven't lost my eyebrows either, I still have some leg hair (which seems spectacularly unfair!), and I have a pretty good covering of stubble on my scalp - anyone else not lost all of their hair?
Has anyone heard from Crys? She hasn't been here for a while and I'm worried about her. I wonder what happened with her final chemo.
Thanks everyone for the input on massage and supplements. I heard somewhere (maybe this board?) that tea tree oil can help with nail issues while on taxol - has anyone tried it?
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I still have stubble/wisps of hair on my scalp, and I'm up for my last treatment next week. I still shave my legs once in a while, too, but not very often.
Haven't heard from Chrys...worried!
I have a supply of tea tree oil, just took a break and put some on my nails. Now they're shiny, and I'm all greasy! I'll let you know how it works out, but I haven't had any nail trouble yet.
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Whooo Hooooooo to you Ellen and Robyn for being almost done!!!!!!!
Michelle you look great with your new wig!!!!
Sorry Jennifer that your having a rough time with taxol!!
Thanks everyone about the rads info.
Wishing everyone a S/E free day!!!
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No we haven't heard from Crys or Madismommy in a while. Hope they're both doing okay.
I still have a few wisps of hair on my head but haven't had to shave my legs in over two weeks now.
Robyn, I have some tea tree oil so I'll have to try that on my nails. So far, I've had no issues but I'm willing to try anything to avoid them! I've been massaging them with cuticle cream every night...not sure if it helps but it won't hurt!
I was at Walmart this morning and picked up a couple of cute scarves from the clearance rack for $3 each...I was quite happy to pick up a good buy!
Ellen, you go girl! We'll let out a big cheer for you on Monday!!!!
This weekend is our Canadian Thanksgiving and the weather for the long-weekend is looking glorious...sunny with temperatures in the 70's and we may even hit the 80's. This is an unexpected bonus! Happy Thanksgiving to all my Canadian friends on this thread! -
Hello everyone -- I see some have asked about me thank you. I've been resting and recouping and really didn't want to post more 'negative' stuff -- so I've stayed away.
My oncologist called me today; he will NOT administer the final chemo tomorrow (Friday 10/7). He actually said that it would be detrimental and dangerous to my health to continue. He stated that since they don't know what "agent" is causing the severe reactions, to proceed would not be in my best interest. I think he also feels comfortable in the sense that my OncoType score was 16 and I did at least have 3 out of 4 treatments. I asked him if they could prolong the steroids or give mor benedryl, but he said NO -- too dangerous. So, I wasn't the one to say to stop, but it was him. He just won't do it. He said the only other option was the CMF protocal of drugs, but he said it may be a waste of time to give me that. He had actually told me the same thing after my 2nd Taxotere became problematic.
I am still traveling to Philadelphia tomorrow to the cancer center to talk to him in person. He told me if I am coming to "convince someone to give me a final dose of chemo; it;'s not going to happen". Yikes!
He told me I should move right in to Rads and to call them to bump up my mapping appointment, which was scheduled for November 1st. He said if they won't bump it -- he will help tomorrow when I come in to get me in sooner than that.
So -- I guess I'm done. I don't know how to feel -- shocked, but relieveda at the same time, but not in a bad way.
I hope everyone is good; I've missed everyone. Hugs, Crystal
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Happy Thanksgiving to ALL the Canadian ladies!!
I'm worried about Chrys, too.
I was not given any additional hair loss information on Taxol. I guess I'll find out. I'm 1/2 way thru (single dose) of week 2 and I see no change. I still shave my legs about every 2 weeks. So far, my nails have not been affected.
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Chrys - so glad to hear back....at least you're stopping , it sounded far too dangerous to continue , and your doctor is right...you finished!! Woo hoo!
Ellen and Robyn..good luck with your last treatment! I'm on the last treatment w A/C too on the 18th , can't wait , then I switch to Taxotere..scared w/that but it means one more step closer to get the all done! My VERY last tx is on the 10th Jan , which is right after the holidays..( Christmas Holidays don't stop until after the 8th in Greece.) I will not do RADS bc a) I did a mx and my SNB was in the clear , and b) I absolutely refused to do rads.Rads scare me more than chemo.
I don't have a lot of S/E so far except the constant fatigue and some loss of apetite, but this round the Neulasta really kicked my behind.Oof.Not willing to do that shot again.
Also , one last thing : at the blood draw on the 27th ( eve of tx ) the flebotomist couldn't find a vein at the crook of my elbow..she'd pull and it was just air..That made me VERY scared.Since then I couldn't extend my arm fully and it hurts a LOT.I googled it up and it sounds like she hit a nerve and now my arm's not very useful w the pain..I still can do things but I relied on it more since the surgery since I can't extend the other too much either since the SNB...Argh , it's so frustrating.From what I read , it'll take 6-9 months for the nerve to regenerate/heal.
FYI she did a blood draw from the back of my hand w a butterfly stick , the kid kind one , and did draw blood in the end ..
I'm not willing to go to her again since she managed to destroy my arm ...:( it's not like it needs a painkiller ( and I feel overmedicated ) but my pinkie hurts constantly as is my arm. This made me feel so blue that I said to my mother that I can't do it anymore , that I want to stop going to the hospital and just be DONE.
It's frustrating being shut up and in bed so much of the time , and feeling so unproductive..Fortunately , a close friend is in a similar situation ( for different reasons , she's pregnant and in danger of losing the baby so she has to be in bed constantly till she gives birth ) so we talk a lot and try to while the time..And my dad comes home w a lot of treats , to cheer me up, bless him..
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So good to hear from you, Chrys! From what my oncologist friend tells me, your doctor made the right decision, and it's not unusual for someone to have a reduced number of treatments and still make an excellent recovery. I'm happy for you that this nasty part of the journey will soon be over!
I'm truly delighted that so many of you are so close to being done! Enjoy every single minute of it! Remind us all of the light at the end of the tunnel! I think when I get to that point (3 more infusions to go), I'll do exactly as Ellen said, cry for joy through the whole thing!
Happy Yom Kipper to my sister and all my Jewish friends, and happy Thanksgiving to all the Canadian gals. It's definitely American Thanksgiving weather here in Utah right now. A couple days ago we were in the mid 80s; today it's 35 degrees and snowing! Crazy!
I go in for my 4th infusion of taxotere, carboplatin and herceptin (a 7-hour adventure!) tomorrow, so wish me luck!
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Chrys-So glad to hear from you! I'm very glad that you're done! Yippee! With an Oncotype of 16, my uninformed opionion is that you should be all set. Mine was 21, and I really struggled with the chemo decision. My oncologist told me in the beginning that every treatment we can manage has an amount of benefit to it! I had a reaction to something after my last treatment, welts everywhere that came and went and moved around for a few days. They suspect the taxotere, but as I seem to be almost cleared up now, this next/last treatment looks like a go! Can't honestly say if I'm pleased or disappointed! I hope you are feeling better!!!!
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Hi Ladies - First day after tx and I think I am doing better than after the 3rd round. We'll see once I am off the steroids though.
Kasi - I must have confused your birthday being the same as my 12 year olds than actually having a 12 year old! I know someone just had a birthday party for their 12 year old.....hmmm, will have to sort back through the archives. Happy belated!!
Allformy4 - I have 3 under the age of 12. The youngest one is 3 and the middle one is almost 10. How are yours taking it? My middle one is having the most issues. She's the most emotional anyway, so it's pretty hard on her. She has questions, but doesn't want to ask for fear of hurting my feelings. You mention that you are having your swap from tissue expanders to implants before radiation? My PS said I had to wait because the radiation could compromise the implants. I have to have silicone v. saline, though, so maybe that's the difference? Are you getting saline implants? I also had the chording issue. It's awful, isn't it? I had a wonderful PT and just had my last session with her last week. I have a ton of exercises to do at home as I still have a few small chords but am so happy with my range of motion now.
Chrys - glad your MO said no more. I was worried about you and feel horrible that you were having so many nasty s/es. Hugs to you.
A friend of mine just finished 12 weekly Taxol and said her hair started growing back. After I shaved mine completely, I have a little bit of stubble, but no real growth.
Happy Thanksgiving and Yom Kippur! We are also having an Indian summer here in Michigan with temps in the 70's to 80's.
Hugs to all.
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Chrys..I'm glad to see you were able to pop in! In my honest opinion, I think your onc made the right decision. You easily could have experienced an anaphylactic reaction to the next dose of chemo.
Vivie...can you insist on a butterfly draw each time?
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Glad your ok Chrys
Wondering if any of you have had a UTI while on chemo...I think I have one ughhh!!!
What were your symptoms?? Did the dr. prescribe anything???
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Thanks to those who commented. It feels surreal to not go for any more treatment and I pray that the 3 treatments were enought to help fight any cancer in my body. I was able to move my radiation consult up to next week instead of November 1st. Maybe I can start soon and be done near or right after Thanksgiving. That TRULY would be a blessing!
Taylor -- I did have a UTI while on Chemo after my 2nd Taxotere treatment. I had excessive burning while urinating, I felt the need to urinate every 60 seconds and my pelvic area hurt horribly (felt heavey). I was given a strong antibiotic (3day course) and an anti-spasmotic/pain reliever (which turns your pee orange). It really did work quick! I felt some relief the first day on the medicine.
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Hey Taylor- I haven't had a UTI while on chemo, but I have had them before. There was a very strong urge to pee, all of the time pretty much. And then, burning when you do pee. Also, a feeling of pressure. Plus, lower back pain. And, I was told to call onco office as soon as I suspected a UTI. So call, you need antibiotics.
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Hey Chrys!! So glad that your horrible chemo nightmere is over for you and that you are on the mend.
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VTellen and Robyn I am so happy for you guys you are so close to the end of this horrible Journey, I still have 9 weeks left but it is flying so far ./
Kasi, regarding the spray tan my breast nurse just mentioned I should not have them as I had all my lymp noids taken out and they worry about lympedema , but I am sure I will just go ahead with them once I am feeling better , I always feel so much better with a tan especially living by the beach , they also told me not to use deodrant but I am not going to go around stinking as well as ugly LOL so I bought a non perfumed one and use it.
I agree with the hair regrowth on Taxol/taxotore , after I shaved all my hair off it has grown again all over dark stubble and the back has a patch that is a couple of inches and coming in brown , I dont unserdtand this as I thought I would be shiney bald until the chemo was done, its so weird , my leg stills has stubble but not much hair and my eyevrows and lashes are still intact so far, but I have heard on another site that it seems to ne when the chemo is done is when they fall out , fI went back to work today been off since last TX felt ok except had a lot of pain in my stomach probably gas pains,
Chrys: glad this nightmare is over for you and good luck with the rads you can give us all a heads up on what to expect.
well good luck to everyone xxx
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Thanks Ladies!! I'll be calling my Dr. tomorrow!!
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LOL u can tell from my last post that I didnt have my glasses on, all the typos sorry guys !!!
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Just dropping in to clarify for Istreet the recommendations for massage after breast cancer treatment, as it affects lymphedema risk. The entire affected quadrant of your body is at risk for lymphedema (think, chicken wing quarter -- back, side, arm, and hand above the waist on the operated and/or radiated side). If your surgery was bilateral, so is your risk. No deep massage at all should be done on that quadrant.
Sadly, the risk remains for life.
And while having a single node removed is relatively less risky than having ALND that removes dozens of them, if you develop lymphedema the risk is 100%.
There are many women here at bc.org (myself included) who have developed lymphedema with a single node removed or with a prophylactic mastectomy with no nodes purposely removed.
Risk reduction information available at these two sites:
http://www.lymphnet.org (See their Position Papers on Risk Reduction, Air Travel, and Exercise -- along the right-hand side of the page)
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm
Hope that helps!
Binney -
Hello ladies. Just finished with my 3rd out of 4 TC treatment. The nurses added a shot of benedryl so i was knocked out for much of it. The taxotere drip is slow so that I will not get shortness of breath and backpain. Then on to the cytoxan. That one takes about an hour. I am at home resting and drinking a lot of fluids. All in all no SEs.
Hope others are having a no SE evening.
Take Care - Missey29
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Thanks for the information Binney - wow, that is sobering. No more deep massage - I could cry! I love massages. Are there lymphadema specialists that do modified massages with this issue in mind?
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Mary - you BET I'm insisting on a butterfly stick every time from now on , but what I'm pissed about is that my arm still hurts , 10 days after.Pissed and about to cry.
I want to rant , but I will not do it.I might even try to insist for a different flebotomist.my OWN flebotomist ( private practice ) is a LOT more better and skilled, but for 150 euros a pop , it isn't affordable.It used to be when I did a blood draw twice a yr( monitor my levels for some other reason ) but right now..ugh.So I had to go to someone at the hospital to do the draw.Not happy.next appt I'll insist the draw gets done at the back of my hand and to bloody stay away from any part of my arm. She sure did the incomeptent thing and injured me.What's more , she's a classmate of my brother's so she sees me asthe deaf kiddo - have to set her straight on that soon.
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Istreet, some cancer centers do have massage therapists who are aware of the restrictions they can use to protect you.
It's always worthwhile to ask for a referral to a well-qualified lymphedema therapist for baseline arm measurements for future reference, learning a gentle lymph massage you can do yourself, personalized risk reduction suggestions, and possibly fitting for a compression sleeves and glove or gauntlet (fingerless glove) to use prophylactically for travel and exercise. Here's how to find one near you:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified_Lymphedema_Therapist.htmNothing simple about breast cancer, is there?!
Be well!
Binney -
lstreet - I had lymphatic chording after my mx so my breast surgeon recommended physical therapy with a great lymphadema specialist. And although I don't currently have lymphadema, she recommended the sleeve and guantlet for exercise and air travel. She was also able to fit me for one and order it for me through a company called Luna Medical. Fortunately, my insurance paid for them.
Binney - thanks for the warnings regarding deep tissue massage on the whole quadrant area. That's good to know!
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Binny...a quick question. Are you saying that rads can cause lymphedema? I, actually, have not researched all the ins and out of rads yet. I am just taking everything one day at a time; and right now, my 'time and energy' is being spent on getting through this da*n chemo! Thanks for the info.
Vivie...you should be being treated professionally. I don't care whether they went to school with your brother or if you are deaf. Not acceptable behavior. Your next lab draws will be better because you won't be settling for less!
Missy...glad your treatment went well and that you were able to sleep!
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