What to do about pinktober...yuch..

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  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited September 2011

    I hear ya sister, i did the run for the cure hear down in SC over the weekend, my 2 sister's thought It would inspire me! I love them, they don't get it, how could they really. The place looked like one big huge pink pile of vomit, which after the 5k run I almost added too!!! it was crazy, pink hair, pink to to's, pink bra's, PINK PINK PINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a women say to me, is'nt this just so much fun, it's like a big pink carnival!!  I said oh, who might you be running for? she tells me no one, she just does it with her friend because it's just sooo fun! I looked at her like,  Are you for real?

    My husband picked us up and we went a drank alot of everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    XO

    S

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited October 2011

    Faithful- "so much fun"????!!!????  The whole concept of comparing bc to a pink carnival is just crazy.  I have opted out of our NJ Race for the Cure because it is just hard to do-not physically hard but it still takes an emotional toll on me.  The first 2 years post treatment I did it and brought my kids-(now 14, 12 and 10).  It also takes a toll on them and once I finally realized it I decided to just write a check and skip. 

    I am glad that the pink raises some money but it certainly is a hard month for many of us who have been diagnosed with bc.  I guess it's what we all know....bc is not a cute little pink disease that empowers women.  It is a scary, horrible form of cancer that kills way too many people-it even kills people who buy pink tic tacs, run in races, wear pink shirts, etc.

  • Mrs_Vino
    Mrs_Vino Member Posts: 796
    edited October 2011

    You all are cracking me up this morning! Love the comments. I feel the same way; the only pink thing I've bought since my diagnosis is actually a brown tshirt that says "yes they're fake, the real ones nearly killed me!" I figured why not? I mean, being bald is a pretty big indicator in itself, might as well wear that tshirt. Also, I love fleur de lis', so this year my brother, a graphic artist, designed a wine label for the state fair here in Ky in my honor. My husband makes homemade wine. Anyway, it is a gold fleur de lis with a pink ribbon draped around it, and has very cool background with positive words, when I saw it I thought, ok, that I like! But I draw the line there, lol! It won first place, btw!

  • Joviangeldeb
    Joviangeldeb Member Posts: 213
    edited October 2011

    I must confess that I do not mind Pink October, so I guess I'm kinda out of  the norm here. Incidently, I got 'the call' telling me I definitely had cancer on 10/1/2007.  ANd my younger sister got the same news on 10/1/2008.  Wierd.  Anyways,  I do wear my 2 pink wristbands each day which gives me some inner strength and peace. I don't know why, it just does. I like repitition and I tend to wear the same jewelry every day & like the same routine in my life.. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

    I think each of us deals with this in our own way and there's no right or wrong way, and I certainly understand how so many dislike it.

    Take care everyone,

    deb

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited October 2011

    Weesa.......you convinced me to get my slouchy hide down to the Wine Bar tonight.

    I do need to do my ride, but virtue has its limits.

    Will take a few "screaming orgasms" too, but the variety usually done between the sheets.

    As for grub, I started early last night with a super steak, and yes, I ate it all. - Claire

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited October 2011

    You know, I can't escape from the bloody Pink Scourge. Today I received a catalog from Oriental Trading Company in the mail. Three whole pages feature Pinktober junk. Here's a sample: Breast Cancer Awareness Can Covers (yeah, I want that wrapped around my beer!), Pink Ribbon Roll Tickets (Congratulations! For your winning ticket, you receive a mastectomy! Yippee!), Pink Pom-Poms (Chemo! Chemo! Rah-Rah-Rah!), Breast Cancer Awareness Tablecloths, Knock Out Breast Cancer Pens (with little pink boxing gloves on the ends...groan!), BC Sticky Notes shaped like pink ribbons, pink ribbon hard candies, pink ribbon shaped antenna toppers, and pink ribbon footballs (yeah, how many women play football?). That wicked batch of margueritas sounds good, Weesa. I need a drink...or five!

  • weesa
    weesa Member Posts: 707
    edited October 2011

     Oh, no! The final pinktober assault. I checked my work email today and off to one side of my company's crisp black and white logo, there is, unmistakably, a pink ribbon hanging off at a rakish angle, and a video to watch from the president of the company, describing some new pink breast cancer programs to be instituted for this month, which it is mandatory we all participate in.If you buy a house from us, we will include a free bottle of taxotere sitting in the kitchen fridge, which conveys with the house, for free.

    By the way, DC Mom, my Knock You Naked Margueritas ARE that sick, yellow-green you describe. And they make you feel like hell the next morning, so fitting. Look no further, I have found the solution to the Pink Problem. Not only are my margueritas a proper icon for breast cancer, but they include all the major food groups: most importantly, the lime juice, (the Vitamin C group), the corona beer (the grain group), the tequilla (the vegetable group) and the 7-up (the convenience store group). One glass of it takes care of your oddly yellow-green nutritional needs for the next month!. No bc cells can possibly thrive in this milieu.

    Celtic, I am rinsing out my watering can as we speak so I can assemble a respectable amount of Knock You Naked's for you. (It's the largest container I own.) I have a big pail I mop the floor with but it leaks slightly. Weesa

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited October 2011

    I want you to know I did my bit Weesa.

    Stopped at Jack in the Box a bit after the halfway point of my ride and had a burger.  Later, on to the wine bar.

    Finally, came home to a real dinner with more wine.

    Forget the green-yellow concoctions. I go with the fruit of the vine.  BTW - the 2005 melange is tasting just great at the moment.  So are the blackberries I ate along the trail.

    Off to bed.  BTW - for Christmas during my chemo, one of my friends, who has been down this road, gave me a fridge magnet.  Says: Zero to naked in 1.5 bottles.

    Will go that route any day. - Claire

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited October 2011

    I was at work yesterday and went out in to the Mall to get lunch and the Tumi (luggage) store had a huge window display of pink ribbons, survior pics etc.  I did like the survivor aspect of it, but I was SO tempted to go in and ask what percentage of their luggage goes to bc research/tx.  UGH........

    Sharon

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited October 2011

    it certainly does not bother me.. all this pink stuff.  I rarely wear pink and don't support BC events personally, but I am so glad we focus attention on this obviously threatening disease.    So many of us (I'm from stage 4) say that the campaigns do not address the issues of later disease, but I think we benefit the most from this focus and research.

    notice my pink 4 in my appleskin hair.

  • sweatyspice
    sweatyspice Member Posts: 922
    edited October 2011

    F*ck pink.  How long does it take to drive there from NYC?

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited October 2011

    Celtic-LOVED your list...very funny!

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited October 2011

    Sweatyspice,

    ROFLMAO!   I LOVE IT!  My sentiments exactly. So when are we actually going to get a bunch of us crazies together????  Good to "see" you here Apple!  How ya been?

    Sharon 

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited October 2011

    sweatyspice: I love your post. love.love.

    i work in a hospital, and the place is now festooned with pink everywhere. if i had any guts, i would email the CEO and nicely tell him that survivors/patients aren't necessarily uplifted by pink ribbons everywhere.

    weesa, this weekend i had 4 servings of red meat in 3 days (road trip to VT). oops! plus some delicious gooey raisin bread for sunday brunch. haven't eaten that much red meat in...well, can't remember!

    i can feel a snarky Facebook post about pinkwashing just brewing.....Wink

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2011

    Did ya know...........Komen's budget spends nearly double on awareness that it directs to research? Something to think about. Metavivor.org is one 501c3 group sending all their money to research. No more running for a cure....RESEARCH for a cure.

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited October 2011

    Interesting about those stats, Chickadee.  Where do you get the original numbers?  I'd really like to be able to toss those into a discussion if it comes up, and if Metavivor.org is donating more I'd like to look into it.  Or any organization donating a high % to research.  Hypothetically, if one organization raises, say, $1,000,000 and donates 50%, it's still going to be a bigger donation than that of an organization that raises $40,000 and donates 100%.  So if the huge PR thing with the pink is actually bringinig in more total donations, then I allow myself to have mixed feelings about it, but I also would consider where MY money would go.  

    Elmcity, I used to live in New Haven.  Worked in the building where the grad student was murdered, adjacent to Y-NH.  Do you have a forum where you could bring up your concern?  In one of the hospitals where I've worked there was a piece of abstract art hanging in the main corridor that was very angular and red. Administration took people seriously when there were complaints that it was traumatic to look at that piece of art (even though it depicted nothing in particular), too reminiscent of a car crash.  It got moved to an office area.

    I think a lot of people mean well, but they have no clue.  I've certainly been in that position enough times in my life! 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2011

    We've been having a lot of discussion of about the efficiency of Komens $$$$$ over on Stage IV forum. The media is beginning to ask ?? And so are we. Here is one blog for you to peruse. Http://cancerculturenow.blogspot.com/2011/03/komen-by-numbers-2010-and-still-no.html.



    "The first chart summarizes how Komen spent the $389.3M it received in Total Public Support and Other Revenue ("revenue").  As in previous years, Education received the highest allocation of $140.8M or 37% of revenue; Research $75.4M / 19%; Screening $46.8M / 12%; Treatment $20.1M / 5%; Race for the Cure and Other Fundraising Expenses were $36.1M / 9%.  The remainder was spent on Affiliate Relationsand Other Administrative Expenses of $40.6M / 10% and increase to Assets of $29.3M / 8%."

  • orlandpark65
    orlandpark65 Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2011

    I couldn't believe the Whitehouse has pink lights shining on it. Really!!   Im sick of hearing about "get your mamogram" early detection ..... I've been going every year for mamo's since I was 38 and the mamogram didn't show the BC until is was way advanced.    Have any of you heard the new Martina McBride song, it's brutal, I heard 1 line and was crying.  My cousin watched the Youtube video and told me to stay away.    Sorry for sounding so cranky, better get my coffee now.   Have a great day!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    I have so many mixed feelings about this topic. 

     I wish Komen directed more money to research, especially locally advanced and Metastatic Cancer.  We need to ask the questions, push the media to probe. 

     I wish they funded research for diabetes and breast cancer (I happen to have that lovely affliction, too) as there is a supposed epidemic of diabetes in our future. 

    I wish more money was directed towards research for all aspects of breast cancer, from prevention to better treatments to cure.

    I find it hard to hate the "pink" even though I don't think it really raises awareness.  We are certainly aware; and I suspect the general public is aware that breast cancer exists and that mammograms can help discover breast cancer.  What doesn't happen is enough discussion about the cold, hard realities of breast cancer. 

    I hate that Komen pimps out "For the Cure" to companies who are donating tiny percentages of their revenues for cheap "made in some other country" products and then spends some of that money including our donations in lawsuits to defend their trademark "For the Cure". That is a damn shameful waste of money. And Komen is sometimes clueless in who they allow in the program...Kentucky Fried Chicken and pink buckets? Perfumes made with products that are suspected of being carcinogens?

    I hate that companies say they are donating a portion of their proceeds for breast cancer research, without indicating which organization gets the money, how much the total donation is likely to be.  We need to hold those organizations accountable. 

    We, ourselves, hide some of the realities.  We wear head covers because we are worried about what people will think if they see a bald head.  In this instance, I think we are our own worst enemy.  We could do more to raise awareness by this one single act than any pink ribbon campaign or silly Facebook breast cancer 'confuse the guys' game.    If the NFL wants to raise awareness, bring in a stadium full of us baldies, put US in pink tshirts so the world can see us, and give us placards that spell out "DONATE FOR RESEARCH TO CURE BREAST CANCER" or simply "WE NEED A CURE FOR BREAST CANCER!"  Pink armbands, towels and other uniform accoutrements on NFL players...not so much.  But how do you argue with their intentions?

    I cannot be upset when my family gives me pink things - they are thinking of me. I cannot be upset that my daughter is organizing a large family contingent to walk in the Komen Race for the Cure in Boston in late October. Everything is done in the name of love and support, and I appreciate every single act.  I wear my pink ribbon gear. 

    And I think the Martina McBride song, a tribute to those who support each and every one of us, is beautiful.  Our caregivers and loved ones are not often considered outside of our immediate world.  So kudos to her for taking a true story and turning into a song of awareness and love. 

    It's not a perfect world and we need to keep chipping away at the things we find objectionable. Revolution, not evolution.

    Michelle

  • DCMom
    DCMom Member Posts: 624
    edited October 2011

    Today we are doing a new sidewalk and patio.  I'm staying away from pink.  The slimy concrete poor is more appropriate, so now I just need one of Weesa's knock you naked margueritas and I'm doing my part this month.  

    Celtic your list cracked me up.  Perhaps the drink wrap for my marguerita? 

  • mgm1953
    mgm1953 Member Posts: 79
    edited October 2011

    Ladies, it's so refreshing to know I'm not alone in my feelings about this. Pink products and ribbons are more symbolic for baby showers than for the slash/burn/chemical blast of cancer treatment. I find it nauseating and trivializing and stereotypically feminizing (the ads make bc patients look like fragile passive victims).

     But then I tell myself, if they're raising money for research, and this does the trick, its more acceptable than some gritty realistic marketing campaign about what this really does to us, then what difference does it make. I wonder how much money is actually raised, and to what ends it serves.

     Good wishes to all! M.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    LuvRVing:  Well said !!  I like the T-shirts that say "of course they're fake --the real ones tried to kill me."  But I just don't draw attention to myself in that way or any way !  I think I'll market t-shirts or cutesy wristbands that are black and say "Pink Stinks".  Bet I'd do some biz with that !! 

  • PlantLover
    PlantLover Member Posts: 622
    edited October 2011

    Hmm ... every Saturday??  Mind if I bring my hubby with me?

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    Shelly - I have that tshirt!  And my daughter has a pink tshirt that says "f$ck cancer" with a pink ribbon where the u would be.  I wore my shirt to chemo, doctor appts and places where the humor is appreciated.    OK, your black tshirt worn by breast cancer warriors at an NFL game! 

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited October 2011

    Can I join in???

    This is the sole reason why I didn't go too public w/ my BC battle. I wanted the choice of being able to retreat when I wanted to, and this month seems like the perfect time!!!

    Kiss HUGS all around...

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited October 2011

    We should start a thread that would post companies that are selling "pink" products and where their money goes.  This one seems pretty legitimate:

    http://www.facebook.com/TheBreastCancerSiteStore

    The product prices are reasonable and the money goes to GreaterGood to fund mammograms for those who can't afford them.

    http://www.greatergood.org/results.html

    On this page you will find all the organizations that GreaterGood supported, including almost $500,000 to the National Breast Cancer Foundation.  On the same page is a link to several years of IRS documents for this organization. 

    The National Breast Cancer Foundation says its mission is to raise awareness and fund mammograms for those in need.  They have a list of leading cancer centers that will provide free mammograms.  And they require that if an abnormality is found, the institution must treat the person.  They provide a link where you can find every facility in every state that participates - and it looks like its almost every single state.

    http://www.nationalbreastcancer.org/

    They have a 4 star rating with Charity Navigator and this link shows how their money is raised and how it is spent.  Yes, only 10% is spent on research, but while research is mentioned, it is not their primary mission. 

    http://www.nationalbreastcancer.org/How-To-Help/Donate-Online.aspx

    So while pink may not be your favorite color, at some point (in this specific case) the money goes exactly where they tell us its going, to accomplish the mission as advertised.  I can find no fault with this example.  And it was interesting to trace it all the way down the line.

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited October 2011

    hey Outfield, I know that building - the Amistad lab. My husband works at a clinic not far from there, on Columbus Avenue (he's a nurse practitioner). when did you leave New Haven?

    I'm not sure about with whom I would discuss my concerns. I think you have a good idea, but I also know the "rah rah" culture of this place. There are quilted runners of pink ribbon fabric on every nursing station. I work for Psychiatry, so there's nothing in our office, but every time I go out there, I get irritated. I keep making grouchy comments and my sweet coworkers smile sympathetically. (which, somehow, is more irritating. I think they don't know how to handle it).

    anyway, i like the idea of a "fuck cancer" t-shirt. you've inspired me to look around the web for one!

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited October 2011

    I walk around campus every day at lunch as a means of getting some sun and exercise, clearing my mind, relieving stress, and getting away from it all. Today along my usual route, lo and behold, one of the sororities had a "BC Awareness" booth. Pink tablecloth...check! Pink balloons...check! Pink ribbons...Check!  Yelling "Save the ta-tas"...CHECK!! Aaack! I'm going into hiding. Someone let me know when it's November!

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited October 2011

    There definitely is a FUCK cancer tshirt out there.  A lady was wearing one at the Avon Walk Wellness Village this past year.  Only issue there is it might be considered "inappropriate" for the Youth Crew, but those are definitely my sentiments. 

    Again, I suppose if even a small amount goes towards prevention/tx/cure I guess the pink thing isn't all that bad.  It's just the ones that profit from others misfortunes that piss me off.  But you can say that about just about any disease/disaster/tragedy.  There's always someone out there profiting from someone else's misery.

    Sharon

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited October 2011

    i am one of the fortunate ones to benefit from expensive research.. Go Xeloda~! and thanks to all the pinkies.

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