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  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    Hi Barbara - How's that first treatment going? 

  • -RC-
    -RC- Member Posts: 287
    edited October 2011

    rjbaby - You go girl !!!!!  I am loving wearing my scarves!  I truly do feel beautiful and liberated! 

    "RJ - You are such a flirt, petting the baseball players heads, batting your eyes at the cops.  Good for you"  --- ditto!  That was funny!

  • JoJo702
    JoJo702 Member Posts: 7
    edited October 2011

    today has headace but drink a lot of water , I need all the information and help?  I took a abaim before bed time last might and was awake at 2am   thank for your help

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    Hey Jojo, What is abaim?  You lost me.

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    Welcome Beebop and SDW.

    September ladies, thank you for all the warm birthday wishes.  Wish I could share some cake with you.  It was lemon with cranberry and streusel.

    BlueJay - I am sorry you still got the headaches.  I was hoping you would pinpoint the cause, like it was the Aloxi, and I could just tell the chemo nurse to cut the Aloxi for me next time.  I guess that wasn't the answer though. 

    PinkShirt - I am wearing the t-shirt turban and it is very comfortable, not tight or scratchy.  I would just go bald but...it's cold and the weather is changing in Wisconsin and I have not turned on the heat.  I laughed when you said you cut up your HUSBAND'S t-shirts for this.  No reason to cut up your own shirts.  What I really want is a warm furry Russian hat like Dr. Zhivago this winter!!!

    RC - Great advice on the PICC and the TechniScrub.  It's snippets like that which make support groups powerful, emotional support and some concrete help.

    Cooka - About neutropenic diet, I also was surprised, or maybe not so surprised but I just wasn't thinking, about some things I shouldn't eat.  I love spinach pie with feta cheese, but I can forget that.  No blue cheeses.  I also saw not to make bread becaue of the yeast.  There's a disappointment because I bought 100 pounds of flour this summer in anticipation of baking bread this fall and winter.  The weather is perfect.  My health is not.  No popcorn because it can get stuck in teeth/gums and cause infection.  Cook the eggs and steak thoroughly even if that's not the way you prefer it. Keep nails short as they are dirt collectors.  Wash hands often, and even more often if you have pets like I do.  Moisturize your skin so you don't have those micro-cracks for infection to invade.

    Dainty - Delay treatment?  Uhhh uhhh sister.  That's not even an option.  About the unexpected decreased income.....I've been through it a few times.  It's not all pretty but it does bring out your creativity and resourcefulness.

    Kelli - You are so honest and the leader about speaking out about the nose hair to the dandruff.  We need that.  And by the way, my butt hairs were the first to go.  I think they got burned by chemo on the way out.  When I wiped it felt like chewing gum stuck to my butt hairs as they fell out. WTH?

    Sara - I hope the flu and fever get better.  Keep watching that temperature.

    NanaDeb - I hear your frustration with the results of the PET.  I haven't had a PET and am afraid of the same thing happening to me.

    Rocky - Mouth tastes like school glue?  I kept thinking mud but school glue describes it even better.  I love food and every bite of food for a week was a frustration to someone like me, except ice cream and yogurt and milk.  Those tasted the same.  Was I happy when those tastebuds came back.

    RJ - I'm proud of you for going to the mailbox topless.  You'll get used to that cute head of yours and get even more confident.

    LowRider - I am following your mystery diagnosis thread with interest.

    Dana - Are you home yet?

    To all of you ladies undergoing chemo before surgery, you definitely have an advantage in seeing how the chemotherapy is working on the cancer, shrinking it.  My sister had her chemo before her surgery and her outcome has been very favorable so far.

  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited October 2011

    Happy belated birthday, Kimberly!  Many, many more, which is of course what this is all about!

    Thought you guys might find this amusing.  I'm on the TC x 4 regime.  Saw my MO yesterday.  Because of the mucositis, he actually told me he had some brief thoughts about letting me stop my treatments!  WHAT????????????   He feels badly that I suffer from the side effects and knows that we made the chemo choice as an insurance policy.  My head was gonna explode. Are you kidding me?  2 tx's, a bald head, mouth sores, severe diarrhea, and you are suggesting I am a quitter?  No way.  And of course, because of the lymph node micro mets, he doesn't want me to stop either.  So we discussed ways to try to mitigate the mucositis this next round, and we will move forward.

    Sara, please stay on top of that fever.  I was also told 100.5 and get to an ER.  Don't mess around.

    For everyone adjusting to our new hair styles, rock on!  I prefer the scarves, and downloaded the tee shirt instructions. 

    Question to all:  how do we wash our scalps once the hair is all gone?  Mine is close to completely gone and so do I continue using shampoo on my scalp?  Facial soap?  Don't want any ugly flaking on my beautiful bald head!

    HUGS to all....we can do this together!

  • Kelliregi
    Kelliregi Member Posts: 138
    edited October 2011

    Cooka - When I took my trip to Georgia with my low counts, I spent the drive googling what I could do. Eating lots of protein was what kept showing up. I know protein is key to helping our bodies heal. I was on a low/slow carb, high protein diet before my diagnosis. I always try to get 30grams of protein within 30 minutes of waking up. For the days after my big TCH chemo, my diet tends to fall apart. I live on soup and crackers. I can't say for sure if the protein helped bring my counts back up, but I feel better if I've had a proper amount of protein.

    Kimberly - I saw a t-shirt on cafepress that said something to the effect: Chemo - The best Brazilian ever! Cracked me up!! I don't think I could wear it though, my kids would be mortified.

    RJ - Congrats on going out without your hair! Sometimes life just demands ice cream =).

    Shelly - I can't believe your MO thought about stopping your chemo for mucositis! The mouth pain sucks, but cancer sucks more. I had to stop using my regular shampoo and switched to Aveeno baby shampoo and body wash. I know some other people have had good luck with it too. I still have my hair, but my scalp is a mess from the chemo. It's finally getting better though.

    I hope everyone has a great weekend. Fall has finally hit Central Florida and I'm taking the top off my Jeep. Ahhh..I love the cooler temperatures =) 

  • khegidio
    khegidio Member Posts: 100
    edited October 2011

    gmomma: The site is http://www.carecalendar.org/.  The whole site is dedicated to creating "care calendars" for the sole purpose of having a place to schedule meals, cleaning, errands, etc. for people in need. Like I said - you can take this as far as you want.  I have found it tremendously helpful and thoughtful. 

    Sara: I absolutely would call my dr. On my dr's number they have a dedicated option if you have a fever and it pages the "on call" dr. for the practice.  They take it seriously.... for a reason.  You can never be too safe and you certainly don't want o delay your treatment so I would get it taken care of. 

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    Shelley - Keep looking forward to that vacation on the beach.  What is the plan to reduce the mucositis?  Further reduction in the Cytoxan?  Industrial strength Imodium? Special diet?  I wondered if Probiotics would be of any help.  I used them a few years ago when Augmentin screwed up my gut by wiping out all the good bacteria.  I also found that Nexium calmed down my heartburn really well.  I don't know what it's effect is further down in the gut, but that might be a possibility too. Did MO say anything about Octreotide?

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited October 2011
    Happy Belated Birthday Kimberly!  I'm sure you weren't expecting to be celebrating your 50th with cancer, but in years to come this will always be one birthday you'll never forget.  I've got my 47th coming up in a few weeks and I'm still like... really??
  • Kelliregi
    Kelliregi Member Posts: 138
    edited October 2011

    Well, day 17 and hairpocalypse has begun. I have stuff to do today, so I put a ton of hair wax in my already short hair. I'll shave it tomorrow. Any thought on what guard to use? I was thinking a 2 might be good.

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited October 2011

    Kimberly:  You cracked me up with the comment about butt hairs!  That was too funny!  I'm still chuckling!

    Shelly2011:  I use my grandkids baby shampoo on my bald head right now.  Very mild and gentle and is working well.  I also have scalp psoriasis which I worred about after shaving my head.  But I think the steriods that are in my chemo cocktail is kicking the psoriasis to the curb right now.  I can find no lesions but I know after I end my treatment, or at least I suspect, the lesions will be back with a vengence!  My step-sister is bringing me some meds to try in case that happens.  Of course, I don't have to worry about that until about January.  I should be through my chemo sometime in the middle of the month.  Then the lovely rads start!

    In case I've missed someone, welcome to all the newbies.  We all wish you didn't have to join this club, but you will find some wonderful support here.  We are all in this fight together and we can do it!  You will have good days and bad days and it's okay.  Right now I am enjoying a "free" weekend.  I have a "free" weekend after my chemo treatments.  No grandkids, no working, no nothing unless I want to or feel like it.  I enjoy the down time and it helps me get ready for the busy week ahead.

    HUGS to each and everyone of you!  Always in my heart.

  • Shawna77
    Shawna77 Member Posts: 28
    edited November 2011

    Sara: Where are you? Did you go to the hospital? Hope you're feeling better. 

    All you ladies rocking the bald look are amazing!  Good for you!  Keep rocking it! Smile

    I will never get to that stage unfortunately.  I feel very ugly without my hair...it's all good though, cuz I have my beautiful wigs.  It's only temporary.  In a couple years I'll have new hair...maybe it'll be better than my pre-cancer hair!  I just wanted to put this out there in case there are others feeling the same way.  I know I always feel better when I see a post I can relate to. 

    Hugs to all! 

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    Dainty - I think we should start a home business making soft forms and microbead foobs.  You take the European Market and I'll take the US. 

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited October 2011

    Thanks Kimberly and Kelli for all the info.  Went to an event at the botanical gardens with my partner last night and so far, so good (I kind of lurked around the edges though and didn't get in the middle of any crowds).

    Barbara/JoJo, how are you doing this morning? Did you get some sleep?

    Sara hope you are well, please let us know how you are doing.

    Have a good weekend everyone:) 

       

  • PinkShirtNow
    PinkShirtNow Member Posts: 134
    edited October 2011

    Happy Belated Birthday to Kimberly~  Glad you are enjoying the t-shirt turban.  I have four  of them.  My husband had too many t-shirts anyway.Wink

    I had my husband buzz my hair about a week ago when the hair avalanche started.  I was more emotional than I thought it would be.  I have said all along that it's just hair but it goes deeper than that, doesn't it. I had a short pity party and then sucked it up.  I think we all do that right now with so many things.  The good news is that I am not bothered by the hair thing anymore.  I have a cute wig and some great scarves so I am trying out new looks.  My main concern was that my appearance would upset my kids but they are fine with it so I have relaxed about it.  

    I have found that using conditioner to wash my peach fuzz has worked pretty well.  I still have quite a bit of hair each time in the hair catcher thing I put on the drain.  Oh well.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    Hi All

    Happy birthday to birthday girls.

    Thank you all for you input and caring!!  Well I called dr on call, fever was almost 102.  I talked to him for awhile, said I really had just body aches and fever and that my son had same thing early in week.  I have no cough or other symptoms like that.  He said he thought I sounded good and call if anything changes.  I was really glad because I do think it was "bug".  I took Tylenol pm and slept pretty well.  Woke up it was around 100 so I took some more Tylenol.  Went back to bed.  I better watch out for bed sores at this rate!  Fever almost normal a little while ago.  Lay low today and hopefully have a good week before next tx.

    Here's a question, if you have a fever and it is controlled with tylenol/ibuprophen do you still have a fever?  Just curious.

    I had some girlfriends do the walk for cure this morning in Lake Havasu with shirts made for me.  So sweet, wish I could walk that far right now!

    Sara ♥

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited October 2011

    Just spent the morning with one of my SIL--husband has 4 sisters.  The youngest's husband just found out he possibly has lung cancer.  UGH!! Not sure how much more our family can take.  He has already written himself off and says he will not do chemo because he does not want his son(5yr old) to see him suffer.  I really want him to explore the options and fight back.  He was so adamant with me that it is what I had to do so I am going to give that attitude back.  Everyone who has not experienced what chemo is now thinks it is the worst thing in the world--I think the alternative is worse.  Hopefully I can tell him otherwise, even though I have had only 1 treatment so far it wasn't as bad as I had imagined.

    Anyway...no sign of hair falling out yet--Kelli you cracked me up (hairpocolaus) HAHA!  You are all helping me to cope with my personal journey down the road we never wanted or thought we would have to follow.

    Maggie

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited October 2011

    Hi Sara, Good to hear from you! Tylenol can mask a fever, so the source of the fever may still be there, even if your temps are lower. Did you get any labs done around day 10?  How were your WBC counts? Anyway, you may want to consider calling your onc again (don't worry about bugging them, that's what you are paying for!) and letting her/him know you still had 100 this am after tylenol. Only saying that because they might not realize you are in your nadir and may be neutropenic (something I am hyper aware of because I am neutropenic:)  

    Glad to hear you are feeling better! 

  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited October 2011

    Sara, glad to hear you are battling back, but please keep track of that fever.  Pneumonia sets in quickly. 

    Someone asked about what blade to use to shave....we used a 1.

    rjbaby, MO and I decided to do the Lomotil (anti-diarrheal) ahead of time.  I'll start taking it on day 5, which is usually the day before the diarrhea sets in.  2 pills, 3 times a day.  Plus I will use the thrush medicine beginning day of treatment too.  And I now have magic mouthwash in the house.  No reduction in the Cytoxan, we already reduced it once.  So, fingers crossed it all helps fend off the mucositis.

    HUGS all!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited October 2011

    hi all, hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. today is day 4 after chemo,seems like a blah day,made myself go for a long walk.

    still on the fence about taking my steroids for 3 days after chemo,finally got the script called in and picked up on the 2nd day,took 1 felt worse after taking it, did not take any more. talked to pharmacists she said it is usually prescribed to reduce inflammation of stomach lining,to relieve stomach issues and nausea,told me to talk to my mo about it.also said could cause you to eat more and to watch for fluid retention.

    today,after i got up felt nausea,took zofran and little while later thru up yellow-bile maybe. made some toast and tea,settled my stomach down. my taste buds are changing,my diet soda tastes terrible so does water,lite minute maid with 2 squirts cherry doesn't taste too bad, i think i'll pick up some limes to put in my water.

    ok,enough complaining,last nite my son and his family came over brought me a plain double cheeseburger from dq-that,s what i wanted, now that tasted good. we watched about 4 shows i tivo fringe and haven. before all of this they would spend sunday nites here and i would watch the kids on monday,just the little one if school is in. i would tivo the shows,actually several different ones and we would watch them and visit. i have really missed having them here, so it was a very good evening. now today i'm depressed,go figure!

  • mommarch
    mommarch Member Posts: 584
    edited October 2011

    Hi All,

    I had my last A/C treatment on Aug. 25th and started my 12 weekly Taxol treatments on Sept. 15th. Had my third one on Thursday Sept. 29th.  So far the Taxol has been easier than the AC.  I have alot of fatigue and some muscle painf for a few days.  Codine at night helps with the muscle pain and fatigue I just live with, rest when I can.  The steriods keep up the night after the treatment.  I get 4 horus of sleep that night.  Dr. said if I have nuropthy is will not set in untll the 6th or 8th treatment and then if that happens we will re-evaluate.  Hope things go quickly for all of you.

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited October 2011

    Well ladies, I have gone the other way this time.  No diarrhea just constipation! UGH!  Drinking lots of water and eating lots of fiber.  Not helping much.  And I thought it was going to go so well this time!  I'm also sore and stiff today.  Took my claritin before and after shot but still feel out of sorts.  Maybe tomorrow will be a better day!

    HUGS!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited October 2011

    rjbaby, have u tried miralax my mo said to use that instead of colace sp?,because using colace long term can cause problems when you stop.my problem is the other which i would rather have then constipation,i feel for u it is miserable. also zofran and pain meds can cause constipation, no wonder we have problems!

    i took claritan and tylenol an hour before my shot,that was all. thankful to say besides usual aches and pain no bone pain, hope it stays that way. do you know if it happens right away or days later? hope u feel better soon.

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2011

    Well today was the day.  Day 12 after treatment and taking the bull by the horns I got my hair shaved off.  She used a "4" so there is about 1/4 inch left. I kind of look like GI Jane with big ears and minus the buff body.  

    I went to a look good feel better seminar and one of the ladies shaved smooth to her scalp and then got folliculitus and ended up on antibiotics.  So needless to say I was careful. 

    Not feeling to bad as far as sideffects go.  I hope everyone else is doing well (or as best that can be expected given the circumstances).

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    RJ - Thanks for reminding me, I should pick up a disposable enema for my next treatment.  I thought I was going to need the National Guard and a few sticks of dynamite last time.  I don't know if it helped or not because I still had bone pain, but I kept taking the Claritin until the bone pain was gone.  Day 6?.

    Karen - What ended up happening with your son's walk at school?

  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited October 2011

    Question for all....one of the chemo nurses recommended milk of magnesia for the constipation.   Anyone tried it?  The mucositis I get causes severe diarrhea, but this last round of treatment had me blocked up something horrible before the mucositis set in and solved the issue!

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited October 2011

    Whole new meaning to "You go girl."

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited October 2011
  • martygra
    martygra Member Posts: 128
    edited October 2011

    I have a problem with constipation when I am stressed out so was very concerned about this issue.  I was having a problem with that yesterday so I tried the milk of mag mixed with the prune juice it took an hour and a  half but it worked and I did not cramp up just had to go and I went!  I wish I would have known that tip for years.  Good luck!

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