Smoking anyone quit?
I was diagnosed on 9/6 and will be starting chemo 9/30. I am a smoker and I think I am kind of dumb for sitting here smoking while worrying about dying of breast cancer. It seems like I have been smoking more then ever since I found out. Just curious if any of you have been able to quite. I also like to enjoy a few rum and cokes on the weekends. Any of you drink while going through chemo? I don't mean on the actual day of the infusion but maybe the weekend after? Thanks
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Hi Martygra, i know the feeling i smoked on and off during chemo I really found it hard the stress was terrible, i have just had a bilateral mastectomy and have cut it to 2/3 smokes a day...........i so want to quit, and i drank beer (in moderation), its hard enough to go through this and give everything up, people who have never smoked just dont understand, maybe we could support eachother..............i want to get healthy and live a long life as i am sure you do, chat soon Bev
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There is an active thread called Stop Smoking support group.
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Hey Martygra. Yes to both of your questions. I smoke and I like to have a few drinks on the weekend or the nights that I'm not working. I have not cut back on the smoking (are you kidding? I need my nicotine at a time like this!) but I have cut way back on my drinking. Now only drink some on the weekends and when I can afford it. I am having to pay for so many co-pays, there's just nothing left for my alcoholic pleasure. Probably have no plans to quit smoking. Truthfully, I know it's a bad habit but I enjoy it. I have been using my e-cigarette more though. And that does help on cutting back on the real thing.
HUGS!
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My onc asked me not to quit during chemo. They don't want you raising your stress level at this time. Needless to say I almost fell of my chair when he said it, but I understand his reasoning
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Hello, Martygra,
Yes, I quit after my BMX. It was one of the most difficult things I have ever done, but so worth it! I cannot emphasize that enough. I am someone who thinks smoking will be found to be one possible cause of BC. Also, remember that BC that is er-positive puts one at a higher risk of developing ovarian cancer. Ovarian cancer risk also goes up for smokers - there is a direct link there. If you have radiation to the breast, there is a small chance of damage to the lung, which can also be affected by smoking. In other words, I couldn't imagine continuing to smoke with a BC dx and I am shocked that oncologists do not insist on this at some time in treatment. I am convinced that I would have relapsed by now had I continued to smoke. Doing so really is playing with fire at this point in our health histories.
If you do quit, it may certainly be a better idea to wait until after chemo to ensure success, but I saw quitting as a life and death imperative.
Alcohol is probably a much lesser danger, IMO. Cigarettes can get us through a million avenues. Alcohol won't be too terrible unless a person drinks too much. They keep publishing these petty studies saying one drink, two drinks three drinks etc/week is good/bad/indifferent depending on the study. In other words, they don't know. Alcoholism is terrible, a bit of wine is good for the heart. That much we do know. :-)
But even one cigarette is bad.
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Athena....
So so true... They still are trying to figure out all of the risks and links as to behaviors and cancer but, I have to think, smoking, whether or not a direct link is made, most likely isn't good for you...
But then.... either is being overweight and inactive (of which I am guilty times 2).... Need to work on those issues next!
I have addressed the smoking issue and in my experience... 1 is too many and 1,000 will never be enough!! Coming up on 2 years smoke-free... NEVER thought I could do it, but here I am....
In answer to 'smoking, did anyone quit' the answer is.... yes... Although, each in their own timeframe.... I hope that you all will join us over on the Stop Smoking Support thread.... The ladies there are very welcoming and supportive! -
Cancer, bilateral mast., chemo, lymphadema, neuropathy (hands and feet), diabetes, Arimdex side affects (pain), going bald, hot flashes, weight gain (stomach), mood swings and very aggressive behavior. Can you imagine what it would be like if I quit smoking?
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StillKicking! Wow I can so see why you have not quit. I do want to someday but right now it really seems to help. My oncologist told me there is no direct link between smoking and breast cancer but as any doctor will tell you we should quite. Yesterday when I went to get my first chemo yesterday the chemo nurse said would you like to have a cigarette first? That shocked the heck out of me, of course I jumped right up and said you bet! RYbaby69, I was kind of scared to drink any alcohol as I was not sure if it would effect how I felt with the chemo in my system. I asked the chemo nurse and she said oh maybe an occasional glass of wine(one thing I don't drink) or a beer would not hurt, just don't go overboard. I did have a near beer last night, did not hurt, figured it was fluid. What do you drink? My drink of choice is rum and coke, or maybe something with vodka. Have a good day.
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I still smoke and don't know how I can get up the willpower to quit at stressful times. I have tried to cut down, though.
I don't drink hardly at all, though.
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Good luck to all, you will do it when you are ready. One of the things that helped me to stay away from smoking was knowing that it would help my surgery healing and I would hopefully have a better chance at reconstruction. I was lucky to have a BS that didn't lecture me to quit I think he knew I felt it was relaxing me and didn't want to add any more stress during a stressful time.
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Diagnosed in May 2011 with extensive DCIS of the right breast. BMX 9/12/11 with biopsy of sentinel node. Final Pathology report : clear margins and Negative Lymph Node. I was told to quit smoking before surgery if I wanted tissue expanders to go in immediately. I quit on 7/05/11 cold turkey and have not smoke sinced. Unfortunately the PS was unable to insert tissue expanders the day of mastectomies due to lack of good blood supply, so I will wait 3 months and have it done after holidays. I still crave smoking but not every minute of the day like the first few weeks..Don't get me wrong I could smoke a whole cigarette in one drag! But I really do want to have reconstruction and don't want to jeopardize that by smoking. I love Barcardi Limon and Diet Coke and am trying to cut back on that as well!!! UGH! Love reading everyone's stories on here and am glad to be a pink sister!!!
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martygra,
What your oncologist says is increasingly subject to dispute. Although the link between smoking and BC is unclear and, at BEST, poorly understood, enough is known so that one can no longer say "there is no direct link." In fact, once recent study I read about found breast cancer tumors in Asian women (and the ethnicity is important because different ethnicities can vary in presentation) to have receptors to substances found in cigarettes. The study subjects were all Chinese, but this merely adds to the growing body of evidence that environmental carcinogens in general can cause BC. I hope similar studies are done in whites, blacks, etc...
A meta analysis by a Canadian-led panel of experts in 2009 concluded that smoking can be a cause of breast cancer, although --full disclosure-- that panel was part of an anti smoking organization.
But even if breast cancer is not made more deadly, ovarian cancer, the "silent killer" IS.
Stiullkicking, treatment is pure, unadulterated hell. Quitting for the first several weeks was pure hell, but so, so worth it for how great I felt later. If I can do it anyone can - stress doesn't begin to describe what I went through (see profile), but it is so, so worth it for how I feel today.
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1Athena1, so happy for your sucess at quitting smoking, it is a major accomplishment. I quit for 6 months over 10 years ago and was so proud of myself but 1 weekend in Las Vegas I thought I could just smoke for the weekend NOT! I am pretty much inclined to believe that anyone can come down with cancer. People who have no vices, smoking, drinking and the like. People who eat vegetarian and and look at all the little children that have gotten cancer. There are people who smoke and drink and eat anything they want and live to be 100. I think it is just the world we live in. I have had sentinal node biopsy and port put in and even though I smoke the doctors cannot believe how fast they have healed up. Still no excuse to not quit. Besides I spend 200.00 a month on cigarettes which I could so use to pay off all these dr. bills now! Would be much more fun to go to Vegas!
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Depends on the type of breast cancer you have, whether it is smoking related or not. Smoking lowers estrogen levels so for some women, it might be protective. But for a small subset--pre-menopausal women with no children, smoking does seem to increase the risk (I fall into that category). I have not seen any studies showing a sirect link to ovarian cancer, but I would like to have the links.
Smoking during chemotherapy lowers the effectiveness of the drugs (and many other drugs as well, especially those that control blood glucose and caffiene) and increases your risk of getting a secondary cancer. Smoking during radiation increases your risk of lung cancer.
I am a tobacco treatment specialist. I have been helping smokers become smoke-free for over 20 years. I have 3 different books on it and I will send a PDF copy of any or all of them to anyone who asks. (no strings, free, just want to help, just send me your regular email address and which one(s) you want: 6 week workbooklet, Tip booklet or 5 steps to becoming smoke-free.
You don't have to want to quit, to learn HOW to quit.
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I smoked two packs a day for 30 years and like rjbaby, i loved smoking and vowed i would never quit. i used to say that i'd rather die of lung cancer than alzheimers. my surgeon asked me to quit at least a few days before my lumpectomy because, according to him, surgery was more risky for a smoker and there were dangers of developing pnemonia after surgery. he didn't shame me about it, but just asked for a few days. two days later i bought some nicorette gum and quit. that was on may 29 and i haven't smoked since. for some reason, it was easy for me. i kept thinking about how hard it would be to be sitting in a chemo chair and craving a smoke. i still have 'triggers' that make me want a cigarette, but i'm so happy that i don't smell like smoke. also, i'm 65 years old and have five grandchildren, one a brand new baby. i wouldn't touch or hold my grandchildren when they were babies until i changed my clothes. it was such a pain. i don't have to do that with the new grandson. i miss smoking, for sure, though.
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Dear all, please join us on the Stop Smoking thread. I had smoked a pack to a pack a day since I was 17, oh that peer pressure, just knew I could never quit, I couldn't have done it without this group of women. I was also a stress smoker and just really enjoyed it, I turned to this group many times for the constant support and caring. I did lurk for a while, before I made the commitment. Hope to see you on the thread, it is hard, but it is doable. Karen
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VJSL8..... I would love to have all the info you can give me.....somedays are worse than others....I sooo enjoy smoking and have been smoke free since 7/05/11 because of my diagnosis, but I could go back to smoking in a second. I am taking you up on the offer to send me whatever you can to help with this terrible addiction......email address: benandzeb@comcast.net
Thank You
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I quit smoking 25 years ago so I guess I shouldn't be here. (I remember how long because I quit when I was pregnant) Being Stage IV now though, I'm glad I did - there are some surgeries they won't do on you if you are a smoker and I want to maximize my odds of surviving.
I still remember what I did to quit - I changed all the circumstances that caused me to crave a cigarette. You know that nicotine only takes a couple of days to clear your system so after that, it's all behaviorial. If I had coffee and a cigarette in the morning, I switched to tea, and instead of sitting at the table, I'd sit in the living room. If I light a cigarette each time I met a new person, I'd switch to pouring myself a glass of water - stuff like that. Realize that intense craving for a cigarette only last a minute or two. Brush your teeth or do something that makes you feel clean so you don't want one as much.
You can do it! You've just been given a slap in the face about your health and you now realize you are mortal and bad things can happen. Quitting was only difficult for a short time - shorter than the time it takes to do chemo, and the lifelong benefits are real.
My mother was a smoker her entire life, and a heavy drinker too - an alcoholic who drank all day, every day. She died of cirrohsis and it was a very unpleasant death. Cigarettes also turned a beautiful woman into a crone - wrinkles everywhere - she lost all her teeth, she got cancer twice, and she looked 20 years older than her age and she smelled awful as did her house.
They do nothing good for you and stress can be relieved in healthier ways.
Good luck to all of you!
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Coolbreeze--my books have a lot of your suggestions in them--learning how to live life as a smoke-free person. And you are right that nicotine leaves the body very quickly--the halflife is 2 to 4 hours (half is gone in 2-4 hours, another half (1/4) in another 2-4 hours etc), BUT physical withdrawal symptoms can last up to 6 months. Nicotine hijacks a specific receptor within the survival instinct part of our brain and creates a whole lot more of these receptors. As nicotine leaves the body--and these receptors--they go crazy wanting nicotine and it takes awhile for the receptors to calm down. Functional MRI's show activity in these receptors up to 6 months, but most instense is the first 2 weeks. So it can still be physical as well as behavioral once the nicotine is gone. VJ
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hi VJ, its Bev i did leave my email address still havnt got your info????, bev_durrant@hotmail.ca for the most part ladies down to 1/2 a day!!!!!!!!!!!! any help i can get would be wonderful!!! B:)
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10/31/10 was my last day of smoking. Coming up quick on 1 year. I'm so glad I quit when I did. Trust me, when I got my diagnosis in April of 2011, I wanted to run right out and by 3 packs and smoke them all at once. Crazy right? Get diagnosis of cancer, want to smoke!
I loved to smoke and I miss it. Unfortuantely I work in a nursing home and I see the affects of smoking on people who have smoked their entire lives. I also have young children and I want to break the cycle with my children.
I also wanted to say that some PS will not do certain types of reconstruction, or even any reconstruction if you are a smoker. I know of more then one lady here who was told no on the reconstruction until they quit.
I wish you all the best of luck if you decide to quit. It is a very hard thing to do.
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