newly diagnosed. What's next?

luckypenny
luckypenny Member Posts: 150

I received the pathology report today and it says I have infiltrating Ductal cancer.  Says intermediate grade.  Tumor markers no known yet and lymphatic invasion not known yet- additional staining to be completed.   

 Says 10% of DCIS is in tissue sample as well.  I imagine they will biopsy some nodes

 So I am meeting with breast surgeon tomorrow.  What can I expect?   nodes biopsy at surgery ( i intend on getting masectomy) 

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  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited September 2011

    Are you doing a uni mx or bilat mx, and what is the estimated size of your tumor?  Do you plan on reconstruction at the same time as the mx?  If so you need a plastic surgeon consult, as both docs work together in the OR if that is what you are choosing.  I believe that the would do your sentinel node biopsy simultaneously with your mx.  The remaining info from your biopsy sample will dictate the remainder of your treatment.

  • MrsChorlton
    MrsChorlton Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2011

    I actually met with 2 different surgeons. LOVED the first one I saw and absolutely HATED the second (female) one I saw. YOu can get different opinions from very qualified drs, so research some in your area, pay attention to the reviews and don't settle on a surgeon you don't feel comfortable with.
    They will be the ones to tell you what's next for your specific type of cancer.

    Everyone is different, don't be scared, you'll feel much better once all the test results are back and they can tell you everything there is to know about "your" cancer.

     big hugs to you!

  • MrsChorlton
    MrsChorlton Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2011

    Feel free to pm or email me if you'd like :)

  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2011

    Thanks for the info.  I don't know yet the size of the mass.  On ultrasound and MRI , no mass showed up internally, MRI only showed a slight shadow.  The palpable area is quite large- 4-5 cm.  Tumor markers not in yet and they are still doing staining for lymph node vascularity.   On palpatation of nodes, radiologist and bs said they couldn't feel anything.   On US and MRI , lymph nodes showed some enlargement last week but I also had a pretty wicked sinus infection.   My first ultrasound 3 weeks ago didn't show enlarged nodes. 

    Special K- I would like a bilateral mast at this point if it improves my prognosis.  I don't think I will look at reconstruction just yet.    I hoping to have no node involvement at this point, but so far this journey has been peculiar in nature so who knows

  • livinglarge
    livinglarge Member Posts: 161
    edited September 2011

    Sorry to hear your Dx.  This is a long journey and you will soon receive a lot of information (which at this point you will have no idea what it means or what to do).  Start off by breathing and writing down not only your questions but what doctors tell you.  This way it will give you an opportunity to digest after you leave their office.  

    This is a great site to ask your questions or to vent (oh yes there will come a  time where you will just want to vent).

    You don't have to really decide anything right this minute so make sure you get all the info so you can make the right decision for you.  I went with BMX and recon and it was the right choice for me.

    Hugs and prays 

  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2011

    Met with BS today.   I feel so much better than did yesterday, but of course there are still unknowns.   Have Bilateral Mast in 2 weeks and will have sentinal node biopsy at that time.  She said on clinical examinations and 3 ultrasounds and the MRI , that there was no evidence of any lymph node involvement, but to be safe she is doing sentinal node.  She said If no node involvement remains correct  then it is likely I am a 2a due to tumor size which she believes is probably between 2-5 cm.  of  course all this could change during surgery .  Not doing reconstruction at this time and not sure I ever will but we'll see.

    She is going to submit for oncotype and doing the genetic testing for brca as well.  I told her I wanted to be as aggressive as I can in treating this.  So I assume after surgery , I will meet with an oncologist who will determine next course of treatment - chemo, rads or hormones.   We are still waiting for the tumor markers ( which i think is the estrogen, prog and her 2 info) 

    I feel so confident at this point that I can beat this.  These boards have really helped tremendously!  

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited September 2011

    lucky penny - Confidence is one of your most valuable weapons - try to remain so as long as possible. My doctor told me to get a little angry too. For clarification, tumor markers are not related to ER/PR, Her status.  Tumor markers are a blood test that essentially measures inflammation and other indicators that therefore indicate the possibility of cancer in your system. They are not considered exceedingly reliable because a sinus infection or fibroids or many other things can cause tumor markers to rise. The ER/PR/Her status was part of your pathology following biopsy.  Typically, once you get the pathology report, you know stage, grade, and hormone status (ER/PR, etc.).  You might call and ask about that.  These things sometimes change post lumpectomy or mastectomy.  There are very good links on this site explaining your path report which I suggest only because that info may actually be there.

    While we all have our moments, along with thousands of others, I remain fairly confident about my future.

    Please let us know any way we can help.

  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2011

    Hi Rain city girl

    The pathology report I received doesn't have the er/pr her status yet.  I beleive they are still 'staining' that .  I know my grade and bs has stated what my preliminary stage is of course but will know more definites after surgery.

     My BS  hasn't been wrong yet, so I am going to at this point remain confident that she is right again.  Helps me move forward.

    Thanks for all of your kind words 

  • Maggie52
    Maggie52 Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2011

    I got the same diagnosis today. Surgery appointment isn't for 2 weeks. Hard to wait that long.

  • MrsChorlton
    MrsChorlton Member Posts: 23
    edited September 2011

    WOW why are you women rushing into a bilateral without even knowing your particulars?

    Getting a diagnosis of Breast cancer is scary and will surge a huge amount of emotions and knee jerk reactions. Please do not rush into it if your are less than stage 3!! This is a huge decision, and should not be made without being informed of EVERYTHING!

    Cristina Applegate wishes she would have waited before she decided to do a bilateral, and she was BRCA positive.

  • sundermom
    sundermom Member Posts: 463
    edited September 2011

    I had a BMX in December. I think part of the success of any treatment is your confidence that the treatment will work for you. I never felt comfortable with the idea of a lumpectomy. I read all of the recurrence stats and know that choosing a BMX doesn't really give me any better odds, but deep down I just knew the BMX was the right choice for me. I'm finishing up my reconstruction, and though there have been a few rough spots, I am very happy with the results.

  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2011

    Mrs Chorleton

    I don't feel like I am rushing at all.  I have always said that if I got breast cancer then they could take them.   First , my BS said that while she recommends that 70% of women get lumpectomy, she didn't think that it was best for me , although she would try it if I wanted. 

    I want bilateral because I don't want reconstruction and I don't want to be lopsided.  I feel like it is a personal decison .  Thanks for the 'caution' however. 

  • migallen
    migallen Member Posts: 125
    edited September 2011

    Hi LuckyPenny,

    I wish you all the best.  I, too chose bi-lateral mastectomies because I was grade 3 and I knew that I didn't want to ever have to worry about breast cancer again.  However, I am not naive, I know there is still a possibility of it returning in the future.  I just finished chemo 3 weeks ago and will start rads next week.  Having a mastectomy or not is a very personal decision, and I always said that I would have them removed if I ever got BC.  Again, I wish you the very best.

    Min

  • luckypenny
    luckypenny Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2011

    Min

    Thanks so much for your validation.  Its helpful to hear from others who have made choices similar to mine

    Question- why are you getting chemo and rads?  I haven't met with the oncologist yet , so I don't know what he will recommend.  I don't know too much about that yet.  You are early stage which is great.  Did your dr recommend chemo and rads or are you just playing it safe?  I am sorry if I  sound naive, but I really am not sure yet what drives those decisions on the doctors part yet- need to read up on that more. 

    I think if Dr gives me the choice, I will probably go ahead and do chemo .  I doubt he will give me a choice though.   Thanks again for the warm wishes

  • migallen
    migallen Member Posts: 125
    edited September 2011

    Another reason I chose the bmx was because my BS told me I would not require chemo or radiation.  However, nothing is really for sure until after the surgery.  After the surgery, they sent the tumors to a facility in California for further testing to get an oncotype number.  My number came back at 29, which says I had a greater chance of recurrence within 5 years. Hence the chemo.  Then I found out I had to do rads because the cleanest margin was .2mm and it was up against the chest wall. 

    I was advised not to meet with an oncologist until after the surgery, but honestly, I wish I would have met her before the surgery, because I wasn't mentally prepared for the chemo. 

    Take care,

    Min

  • susanella
    susanella Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2011

    Hi,

    I was just dx'ed with IDS yesterday.  I am looking for a good BS and PS in the NYC Long Island area.  Does anyone have anyone they would recommend?  Or, where can I get recommendations?  Is there another thread???  I am overwhelmed. Thanks.

  • susanella
    susanella Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2011

    Hi,

     I have a follow up question to my last post for recommendations of BS & PS in the NYC Long Island area.  Am I also supposed to be looking for a MO???  I am so new to this and have no guidance at all.  I got the dx yesterday from the radiologist and will be interviewing the first BS tomorrow.  Please help.

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited September 2011

    I too had 2 doctors for I wanted a second opinon, so take it easy and I will pray for you and us all, and u have come to the right place for help and an ear, we are here for you, hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.  msphil( idc, stage 2, 3 nodes, L mast,chemo and rads, tamoxifen for 5 yrs) God Bless and I am now a 17 yr SURVIVER(Praise GOD)

  • Nell2109
    Nell2109 Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2011

    I am 39 y.o. and dx with IDC and LCIS in left breast with micro-cal in right.  BMX scheduled for Oct 7th with reconstruction with TE.  I have excepted the fact that I am going to lose my breasts.  I would rather lose them than to ALWAYS have in the back of my mind "is the BC back".  Fortunately, I have an amazing dream team (BS, PS, and Onco).  Met with my onco a few weeks ago and he said it looks like they caught my BC as early as early can get.  And my course of treatment may just be Tamoxifene.  I am praying for that.  But as you know things can change after surgery.  MRI showed normal lymph nodes and pathology report shows grade 1.  Anyway, I have done so much research since my diagnosis...my head is swimming with info.  I am praying for each and every one of you.

  • Nell2109
    Nell2109 Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2011

    Question, I see alot of you with low grade tumors, her2-, and negative node involvement...why did you do chemo?  Thank you.

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited September 2011

    Nell - honestly, I started chemo because of fear and I stopped chemo halfway through because of fear and lack of confidence in it's value for me, personally.    Once I started, I can't say it was not doable, because it was, but I had time to look further and have more conversations.  I had four opinions - absolutely do, absolutely do not do, 50/50, 60/40.  One onc shared info about lumenal A, low ki-67 ER/PR, Her2- tumors that are non-invasive.  I checked NCCN and followed their guidelines which you only really see if you read the teeny tiny fine print.  So that is why I did, and then why I didn't.

  • Nell2109
    Nell2109 Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2011

    Thank you Raincitygirl.

  • Nell2109
    Nell2109 Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2011

    AWESOME NEWS TODAY...BS called today with final pathology report...the cancer cells that were found in my lymph node was microscopic.  Whew...!!!!!  That so made my day.  So on to completeing breast reconstruction and Tamoxifene!!!!

  • three17
    three17 Member Posts: 72
    edited October 2011

    It seems there are a lot of us who were recently diagnosed. The sad thing is there are a lot of us. I see my surgeon on Tuesday. I only know so far I have IDC. She is ordering a MRI. My sister had Breast and Ovarian 11 years ago and is cancer free. Looking forward to learning more. Its the unkown that is driving me crazy.

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited October 2011

    Nell 2109  -  My MO ordered the Oncotype test on me on our first visit.....before I had surgery.  My score came as 25.....which is intermediate risk.  Becuase of that score, because of my family history and because of my age, we started neo-adjuvant chemotherapy the next week, even though I am considered lymph node negative via scans.  My tumors measure about 2 cm. 

  • Nell2109
    Nell2109 Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2011

    three17:  It's easier said than done...but try not to think about it.  You will drive yourself crazy.  Seriously, I was there.  I did whatever I had to do to not think about it.  I joined the gym, worked late and constantly surrounded myself with friends and family.   

  • Nell2109
    Nell2109 Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2011

    wildrumara:  Neither my MO or BS requested a Oncotype test.  Not exactly sure why not.  I have an appointment with my MO next and follow up.

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