Help wanted: UMX without reconstruction

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CLC
CLC Member Posts: 1,531

Hello, all!

I will be getting a umx without reconstruction October 7.  I am secure in that choice, but I am overwhelmed at the prospect of balance...physically and aesthetically.  I am particularly unsure about how that will all work after I return to work but don't yet have the silicone prosthetic.  I am guessing there is a huge amount of know how out there, and folks have their favorite tricks of the trade.  I am hoping you all will share those...  I am glad I will probably get to keep my right breast, but it leaves me feeling that the prosthetic issues will be more complicated than if I had a bmx.  Any and all suggestions are wanted!!!

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  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited September 2011

    "unoboober" here.  Initially, there is a soft form that can be used before you're ready for the silicone prosthetic.  I was told that the silicone prosthetic is needed to keep the spine aligned.  Personally, because of the placement of my incisions, I found I ended up not wearing any prosthetic.  Recent radiographs of my spine do show a slight curvature of the spine.  Is it from not wearing a prosthesis? I have no idea, but it may be.  I'm glad I didn't rush into BMX but I'm now considering BMX.  The advantage of doing UMX is it gives you time to think about what you really want and not a "omg" reaction when your head is still reeling from the BC dx.

    Good luck and I hope it all works well for you. 

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    Thanks, Flash!  Have you found more areas of concern, that you are now considering bmx?  Or is this related to the spine curvature?  Or tired of the myriad of tests?  I hope you are well! 

    Was it difficult for you to forgo the prosthesis?  I would love to think that there will be a time that I will go flat on the one side and skip the prosthesis, but socially, that sounds very hard for me personally.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited September 2011

    Another uniboober here, and no issues at all. That might have to do with my age - 61 at MX time and in a solid relationship with huge support. I didn't buy a MX bra till this spring, but also, no work issues to deal with. i would wear my old bra plus soft rolled up socks or panties stuffed inside. but the MX bra I finally got is great - fits perfectly because it was professionally fitted, so is the most comfy I ever owned. I still often go braless because basically I've hated them all my life. So I have a lot of ruched tops, tees with lots of gathering or twists at the bottom of the vee. Often worn over something else like lately a flimsy cotton sundress fron Wally's with totally gathered front, elasticized. Confuses the eye. Was told by the MX bra lady that it's good to wear a prosthesis as it weighs about 3/4 of the real breast weight, and keeps you straight. But nearly all the time I don't bother, unless I have to "go out".

    Could not face the whole hoo-haw of another surgery, and if someone notices, too bad. it's their problem. Although I am not blatant about it, and tend to avoid, say, walking in front of a line of people , might hold my purse up, fluff my shirt up, or something.

    Best wishes

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011
    I love your attitude on this, Flannelette!  I really don't think I will care, in general, either.  I am however, a size D on the right and I teach teenagers.  It is important for me to be able to "pass."  At home, on the beach, in stores or with my husband and kids, I might not wear any prosthetic...I don't know.  Time will tell.  Thanks for your tips...Smile  I wil look for shirts with "stuff" at the neckline.  Maybe buy some stuff to layer with (something I have never done, since I have never cared about clothes)...  And, when possible, not care what others think.
  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited September 2011

    Hi CLC,

    I wanted to respond particularly about Flash's comment. I do think that when you only have a single breast, especially a D like yours, it's possible that if you go flat all the time, you may cause some imbalance and as a result feel strains on one side or the other. However, I really doubt that Flash's spine curvature resulted from not wearing a breast form. Spine curvatures usually occur during childhood and puberty and can be congenital. Often, when they're slight, they're not identified until perhaps an X-ray reveals them in later life. Perhaps Flash will let us know if she had early scans which didn't show the curvature and now it's there. If not, I would assume it's something she's had since adolescence.

    All this to say, I wouldn't worry about that in your situation, but it seems as if you'll want to wear a breast form at least some of the time, for both cosmetic reasons (the kids in your class) and possibly for comfort. Some weight is necessary to create balance, as flannelette pointed out. But the breast form doesn't have to weigh as much as your existing breast. In fact, some women go with forms that are even lighter than 3/4 the weight of their breasts and find that they get sufficient balance for comfort.

    There are a lot of advantages to keeping one breast -- you'll still retain all the sensation that goes with that. I hope you'll make a quick and easy adjustment.

    Barbara

    BreastFree.org

  • Dukes_Up
    Dukes_Up Member Posts: 149
    edited September 2011

    Hey there!

    Just a quick thought I had:  Would you consider meeting with a physical therapist experienced with post-mastectomy therapy?  Being as active as you are, I think this could be very helpful for you.  I know that I would be concerned about developing a postural imbalance (and I'd hate to see you feel miserable during your running sessions down the road.) 

  • zanoza
    zanoza Member Posts: 40
    edited September 2011

    Hi CLC,

    Another uni here (almost 42-years old).  I have one silicone and one light-weight prosthesis. Both were professionally fitted and VERY comfortable. Plus mastectomy bras I bought are very nice and even sexy:) I'm happy with my decision and can't even think about going through reconstruction process but I have great family support on that as well.Right after surgery I used sports bras without any inserts, but after a month after surgery started wearing a prosthesis. Wish you comfort with your decision, as Ercia sad there are lots of advantaged to keeping one breast and lots of advantages of not going through additional surgery (recon). Life doesn't change much with loosing one breast.

  • scoutmm56
    scoutmm56 Member Posts: 22
    edited September 2011

    the reality of the situation is that what you have had the forethought to be concerned about is exactly what will be the ongoing  issue, problem, annoyance...yeah they send you immediately back to work but tell you not to be fitted for a prosthesis for six months and kind of tell you..lots of luck with that...hmm...i found that your chest is still so sensitive all you can tolerate is a "puff" or anything light weight..you stuff it down your bra just to fill in the space..when u finally get fitted--I would go as light as possible..my first prosthesis felt like a bowling ball..I wore it once and never again..Here is the ongoing problem even when you are fitted on one side..if you gain weight your real boob gets bigger and you need a new prosthesis to match ..same if you lose weight-so far I have gone through three sizes and now need another size ..and because of my high deductible my insurance doesn't even pay for it because I am otherwise healthy..I occasionally consider having the healthy breast removed and going flat chested...can't say that if I had to do it over again I would do a bmx knowing what I know now...I liked my good boob but feel it gets in the way alot now....poor thing.

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    You all are awesome!!  This is just what I needed...just to hear stuff...how things are going...tips for "confusing the eye," and what to do right back to work...Thank you all!!!

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited September 2011

    Just to respond briefly to scoutmm56's comment that she was told not to be fitted for a prosthesis (breast form) for six months. I've never heard that before. My surgeon suggested I wait 4-6 weeks before being fitted, just until the swelling and tenderness subsided. I know of at least one woman who was fitted after two weeks, but most women seem ready at 4-8 weeks in my experience. There are unweighted puffy forms that are soft and can give up a shape until then, if you wish.

  • Granuaile
    Granuaile Member Posts: 113
    edited September 2011

    After a LB mastectomy, I decided against reconstruction (the new breast wouldn't be "mine," I felt, and I also really didn't want any more pain), and instead asked for a referral to a PS to discuss a right breast reduction. I don't mind wearing a prosthesis, just want it to be as light and unintrusive as possible, I actually had the reduction 2 days ago, got home from the hospital yesterday, and am looking forward to having a much smaller bra size as soon as the swelling goes down. Maybe I'll start wearing tanks!!!

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    Granuaile..that is  really intriguing idea that I will keep in the back of my mind...Just curious...did insurance cover it?  Wishing you a speedy recovery!!!

  • Granuaile
    Granuaile Member Posts: 113
    edited September 2011

    Yes, it's covered by insurance (although my husband had a great laugh when the insurance paperwork came through, describing the procedure as a "large breast reduction." Hmmm.... didn't think I was that big, but compared to being flat on the other side, I see where they're coming from. This is considered part of breast cancer treatment, I found out about this option after reading it on one of the BCO threads, and my BS thought it was a great idea. They also get the pathology report, just in case you have cancer in the other side. (apparently it happens in about 3% of cases.) I feel great now. Very happy that there won't be a huge discrepancy between the two sides, and it was also a decision that I got to make for myself. I also loved my PS - he got me to bring down the form I was trying to match & did lots of measurements, took pictures, etc. I'll let you know how it looks once bruising and swelling are gone. I'm happy that I have very little pain today.

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    Granuaile...How much time has passed since the mx?  I wonder if this is the kind of thing that there is a time limit on (as far as insurance companies go)...

  • LindaKR
    LindaKR Member Posts: 1,577
    edited September 2011

    CLC - I too am a D cup and had UMX April 2010.  Hadn't planned on recon but talked to a PS because I thought it would be nice to go bra-less or at least be a little more even, he confirmed that I wasn't a good candidate for  recon anyway, and could do the breast reduction on the other side if I wanted.  Not too long after I saw the PS I had the 1 year follow up with my BS, he said with breast reduction you do loose some feeling and the part that would be taken off isn't the part of the breast that is usually cancerous, he recommended that if I wanted breast reduction I might consider BMX, though he didn't feel it was necessary since I was low risk for cancer in my other breast (he did MRI before UMX there were no abnormalities & I had had my 1 year mammo right before I saw BS). 

    I was originally fitted with a prosthetic about 6 weeks after my UMX, with the mastectomy bra it fit very well, and you really couldn't tell the difference.  Then I lost 35 pounds and became a little lopsided again, my insurance pays for 1 prosthetic and 2 bras a year.  After radiation I developed LE in my trunk and arm, the radiation also did some damage to the nerves and muscles on that side, so it was pretty uncomfortable to wear the prosthesis because of the weight it put more strain on the shoulder.  So when I went to get my second prosthesis, not only did I need a smaller one because of the weight loss, but I found out they made a lighter weight one - it's great.  I actually think that I may get a swimming prosthesis next time, they are even lighter weight.   

    I have no problems with the weight difference.  When I'm home I usually take it off, and plan on trying to get an even lighter weight one next time (I guess the swimming ones are really light).  Also, I saw a LE therapist and she recommended a shaping camisole - I found these at a Hanes out let store - http://www.onehanesplace.com/outlet/shapewear-13666--1/shaper-camis---slips/bali-comfortshape-everyday-smoothing-light-control-seamless-top   I love wearing the cami's -  they are really comfortable and they reduce my large size enough that's it's not very noticeable, particularly if I'm wearing layers, a textured shirt, or a scarf around my neck. 

    I started swimming and bought a bunch of swimsuits at second hand stores (when you only pay $4-7 for a suit you don't care as much when the chlorine eats it up).  I don't where a prosthesis when I swim and people hardly notice. 

     Good luck with your MX - my BS had me wear a binder for the first 5 weeks, I guess he has his patients where compression bras now, they are much more comfortable than the binder.

  • LindaKR
    LindaKR Member Posts: 1,577
    edited September 2011
    And check out Erica's website and blog - she has some great ideas.  BreastFree.org (http://breastfree.org); BreastFree Blog (http://breastfree.blogspot.com)
  • Granuaile
    Granuaile Member Posts: 113
    edited September 2011

    Hi CLC;

     I had the mastectomy on March 31, and the reduction Friday, Sept. 23. I guess I was somewhat of an unusual case, in that my PS says they see very few patents who choose this option. Most want reconstruction. I don't know about a time limit, but my radiation oncologist was surprised at my decision to get the procedure after chemo & before rads. You may want to check in with your insurance company.

    Kate 

  • kmpod
    kmpod Member Posts: 234
    edited September 2011

    Hi CLC,

    I decided as soon as I got my path report after my right mastectomy (July 22) that  I wanted the left done too. Since I knew my present situation would be temporary I didn't want to go to the trouble and expense of obtaining a prosthesis or a mastectomy bra to address my short term uniboobed state.

    I've found what works best for me is an unstuffed spandex/cotton black camisole worn under an interesting loose jacket or shirt. The black de-emphasizes my lopsidedness and, truthfully, no one notices it at all unless the subject of my cancer arises. I've had the aggravation of a persistent seroma on the right side so the light compression and support from the camisole is also welcome. I wear it 24-7.

    After the left surgery I fully intend to go flat, as others on this thread do. I love the idea of no bra, ever again, and plan to buy silk camis to feel both comfortable and feminine. 

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    Linda...your post is just chock full of useful stuff..thanks for the link...I like the camisole and I may just go ahead and get one.  A shaping camisole sounds like just the kind of solution I will want.  I figure I won't want a prosthetic when I swim, either, since I swim 2 miles at a clip.  It would just get in my way, I think.  It is encouraging to hear that the prosthetic worked well for you (at least until the weight change).  I have heard so many different things... 

    Granuaile...I will keep the idea of reduction in the back of my mind.  I will definitely give it all a try as is...and see how it goes.  But it is so nice to know that reduction might be an option if I find the imbalance all too frustrating.  I definitely want to hear how you are faring...I hope you are healing quickly:)

    kmpod...You have helped convince me that the camisole route might be a good one.  Thanks...I also find the whole no bra thing very enticing...but I am also, well, rather attached to my right breast, as it were, and if I can keep it, I will try.  But I can totally get the flat chest with a silk camis idea...I am glad that you have a solution that will work for you.  Good luck with your second mx.

     Thank you all for sharingSmile

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited September 2011

    i do like silk - i wear tanks as lace kind of is itchy.

    I sometimes wear an aaaa bra and put a small poofy sponge thing on the right.. it stays in place.

    I am totally scared of reconstruction.. an extra surgery and an extra chance to obscure any new cancer tumors.

  • Granuaile
    Granuaile Member Posts: 113
    edited September 2011

    CLC: thanks for the kind words. I'm 3 days out from the surgery, and the only complaint I have is some persistent nausea. I'm lying on my recliner, unable (as of yet) to head out for my daily walk. I just feel like I could throw up any minute. As for the surgery site, all's well. Some swelling, which is common, and some impressive bruises. I'm really glad I did this, though.

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    Granuaile...I am thinking about you.  I hope the nausea is done...  I am gearing up for the countdown.  Nine days to surgery for me...

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited September 2011

    I wanted to let you all know that I went out and looked at camisoles and found some that had a place for an insert.  I also bought scarves (that my kids helped me pick out), a vest and some loose shirts and I feel a lot better about my first weeks back to work.  I really, really, really, want to thank you all for posting here.  Clothing is the last thing on earth I have ever given thought to and thinking about it is daunting for me.  Your advice and suggestions have given me some direction and I feel a little less terrified at the prospect of trying to pass as double-breasted...

  • cbecchetti
    cbecchetti Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2011

    I am scheduled to see the PS next week.  Turns out I need a MX and still trying to decide about UMX or BMX.  I was initially thinking of reconstruction but after reading the posts here, I have to slow down and rethink it, which is what my sister said.  I hadn't even thought about what Granuaile said - the new breast wouldn't be "mine,"  That sent a chill up my spine so I have to think about this all more and especially since I am overweight right now, it might be better to wait until I get more fit and then do reconstruction.  Thanks for all your comments.  Maybe this is an option for me. 

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited October 2011

    I do think women who've had bilateral mastectomies probably have a simpler time with the prosthesis/bra thing, than those of us who've just had unilateral masts. 

    And, I'm sure women who are smaller topside have less difficulty finding a comfortable, workable prosthesis -- and feel less awkward going without a bra or prosthesis -- than well-endowed women.

    I was (am?) 34B/36A, depending on the bra.  That's kind of funny.  Every time I go to my BS for a routine recheck appt -- like this coming Monday -- her nurse asks me what size bra I wear.  I usually respond, "I really don't know," because my prosthesis fitting put me in a too-tight, too-small mastectomy bra and I cannot wear it.  So around the house, I almost always go bra-less, which was true even before my BC dx.  Sometimes I'll go out in public without a bra/prosthesis, especially if we're just riding in the car or it's cool enough to wear a jacket.

    But I've come to realize that I'm not comfortable going out in public being so perfectly flat on one side and having a size A/B (B-minus?) boob on the other side.  My T-shirts look twisted and odd.  My blouses/buttoned shirts look worse.  I need to wear layers, dark colors, and tops with printed patterns (T-shirts with big logos) to mask the lopsidedness. So, although my prosthesis and bra of choice make my chest uncomfortable (a touch of truncal LE?), I wear them anyway, in public. 

    I've discovered that, if I don't wear my prosthesis/bra, I hunch my shoulders; and it's not because of the side-to-side weight difference.  An 8-ounce container (I checked it out) of body fat doesn't weigh much at all, so I don't buy the "imbalance" argument. I hate to admit it, but I think I hunch my shoulders forward to mask the lopsidedness when I'm not wearing a prosthesis/bra.  It's kind of like an 11-year-old girl hunching her shoulders because she's embarrassed about her developing breasts.  (I suspect I did that, too.)

    Despite all that, I do not regret declining reconstruction.  I would vote "no recon" again, without hesitating.  Life is complicated, but IMHO, my life would have been more complicated if I'd had recon and I didn't want that.

    otter

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited October 2011

    I have no indecision left about declining recon.  I just hate clothes.  I have always hated clothes.  I don't like the idea of having to pay one iota more attention to them.  But the advice I got here has helped me choose some key items that will just become part of my "uniform" so that I will be able to continue as I always have...thinking as little as possible about my clothes...:)  That put my mind somewhat at ease.

    I concur on the recon topic.  I want as little intervention in my body as possible.  I want no foreign matter in my body.  I want to continue to feel good about being physically strong and healthy.  I can do that and feel whole without a reconstructed breast.  But, I will say this, too.  I have met bc survivors who are very happy they reconstructed.  I am grateful for them that the plastic surgeons could give them something that helped them feel better able to come through this cancer thing feeling whole.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited October 2011

    CLC, you're absolutely right.  My "no recon" decision was appropriate for me, but wouldn't have worked for a lot of other women. The same was true for my "mast vs. lumpectomy/rads" decision -- I suspect most women in my place would have chosen the lumpectomy/rads.

    More than a dozen women from my BCO "chemo group" (May '08) got together 15 months ago as a sort of reunion.  It was fun to see how happy some of them were with the outcomes of their recon -- which ranged from a simple impant, to very complicated, 15-hour DIEP microsurgery.  I was so happy they were happy that I secretly second-guessed my "no recon" decision.  Not for long, of course; but there was a smidge of doubt for an instant or two.

    This is such a personal choice we have to make.

    otter

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited October 2011

    Otter,

    I, too have opted for mx over lumpectomy/rads.  I have dcis, low grade.  I really could have gone the lumpectomy route.  However, I don't want to go through rads.  I want to recover quickly and return to running and strength training as quickly as I can and I want to avoid any systemic impact if at all possible.  I am lucky to have caught this so early...I am grateful that I won't have to do chemo or rads at all.  That is such a relief to me.  As you said, many women would much rather undergo rads if it meant keeping most of their breast.  I am grateful that you had the space and strength to take the path best for you, and that I will be able to follow in your footsteps, even though it is not necessarily the most easily understood by those we encounter.

    Claire

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited October 2011

    I was also a D and had a uni-mx.  I have an Amoena light prosthesis (silicone) and it is very comfortable to me.  It came with one of the little cloth covers but I bought 4 or 5 extras online because I wanted to be able to have a clean one for each day.  I also like the Amoena Ava bra -- very comfy and good support.  I must have bought 15 different bras and returned them before I found one I like.  My surgeon kept telling me that I should have a bilateral mx because with only one large breast remaining, I'd have balance issues and back issues -- neither of which was true.  I'm glad I opted for a uni-mx.  I initially wanted immediate reconstruction (DIEP) but my onc wanted me to wait awhile since I had IBC (and it was my second BC dx, the first being IDC a year earlier).  But, it has now been over a year and a half since my mx and I'm not sure I'm ever even going to do the reconstruction.  I don't think I want to go through another surgery.  I may change my mind at some point, but honestly, I don't mind the prosthesis. It is comfy and I don't give it another thought once I get dressed in the morning.

    Edit to add that I got my prosthesis at just under 4 weeks post mx.  I couldn't wait any longer.  With such a large remaining breast, I could not go out anywhere being flat on one side I just couldn't find anything to stuff the bra with that was even close to resembling the real breast.  So, I went ahead and got the prosthesis and was so happy to have it at that point.  

  • gkodad
    gkodad Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2011

    I chose a umx, mostly to give myself time to decide what exactly I do want.  It seems like a lot of surgery for an "attached" false boob, but maybe I'll change my mind.  Right now, if I do anything, I'm inclined toward a reduction of the "good" one rather than reconstruction.

    Because I'm having some healing issues due to previous radiation, I have a very lightweight foam foob that I place in a post-surgical mastectomy bra whenever I go out.  It isn't heavy and doesn't bother my surgical site.  Everyone who knows my situation says I look perfectly normal.  I've also stuffed some fiberfill in the pocket on occasion.  I probably won't be fitted for a prosthesis until I'm totally healed, which might take a while.

    Truthfully, people aren't very observant.  So no matter what you do, people probably aren't going to pay much attention unless they know you had surgery.

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