Is There A September 2011 Chemo Group?
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Hi All,
Well round 2 was not quite as uneventful as round 1. I guess I developed an allergy, not to the chemo, but to the stuff they have to mix it with to disolve it. I asked the Doctor what that was, and he said there are lots of things in the mix, including castor oil. A little evasive. My DH looked it up online and he decided I was likely allergic to the propelene glycol. Yuck! I asked him if that was anti-freeze, and he said no, but it sounded like that to me. Anyway, they just slowed down the drip, and pumped me full of benedryl, which made me really really sleepy, so I slept through the remainder of the treatment.
The way that my symptons presented were that I may face felt really flushed, and then I was having a little difficulty breathing. I didn't think much of it, but told the nurse. She looked for hives, and I didn't have any, but she told me that if got worse I should tell her right away. Well, less than 2 minutes later, I had a hive on my neck, and I started coughing every time I breathed in. Then it was like a BIG deal, they were calling doctors, stopping my infusion, and generally just mobilizing around me, pumping me full of benedryl and decadron. I came home, and slept for several hours, which I guess makes up for my lack of sleep last night.
Hugs to all! Have a good weekend!
Oh, BTW, the dates are not too bad. They have a slightly caramelly flavour.
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Suz,
That is soo scary! What will you do next time? Do they have another solution they can use? Glad you are ok now.
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Oh, Suz, I think I would have been terrified! So glad you're okay!
My only news is that I sent my husband out to buy an inexpensive clipper set (he ended up getting a Conair at Walgreen's), and today we took my hair down to a 1/4 inch. It feels so much better, although I'm still curious to see if it ALL goes. With three more treatments, I imagine it will.
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Hi again,
I wasn't actually scared. I wasn't experiencing any huge discomfort, but I could tell I was reacting to the chemo. I just figured that, yeah, of course I am reacting, they are pumping me full of bad stuff. I only mentioned something to the nurse because it hadn't happened the first time.
They told me that for my next infusion they would give me the benedryl and decadron right away, so my guess is that they are not changing the solution.
Bluejay, if you are like me, you will lose almost all your hair in the next few days. I found it much easier to deal with, being shaved. It isn't as dramatic. A lot of it came out in the shower. Now I am wondering if I will lose my eyebrows.
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Well Ladies, the time has come. I made the appointment today with my hairstylist. I will be in his chair at 1:00 p.m. tomorrow. Leaving the store job early. Gonna get my wigs styled too. I am just so down about this. I really thought it would go so much more smoothly than I am taking it. It's just hair! But emotionally, it's hitting pretty hard. I do think my wigs will work really well and that's a good thing.
Suz: You scared me a little with what happened to you. I am worried about my next treatment too. I hope it goes relatively easy with little to no side effects. Thanks so much for your comments about the hair. I have just been down the last two days but I will bounce back.
Kimberly: Unfortunately, I'm giving up! Mine is coming out in handfuls. I can just run my hand through it and there's so much hair there! My shower last night was horrible. Couldn't hardly wash my hair for all the hair sticking to my hands! I've gone around today thinking stuff like, this will be the last day the wind blows through my hair, won't be washing my hair for a while (out of shampoo, no need to buy any now), why me, why now, etc. You know. Emotionally it's tough but I'll make it. Both girls will be there tomorrow for moral support and to give advice on the wigs. Really and truthfully, I'm glad they will be there. I need them right now.
Bluejay: How did you feel emotionally watching it all come off? How do you feel now? Is there anything special I need to do?
Cooka: My very worst day was Day 7. I just felt like crap. Tired, achy, whiney, etc. So I know what you mean. But by the next day, I was starting to feel better. I'm feeling great right now but I know that won't last too much longer! Treatment number 2 is Thursday.
Stay strong ladies. I will let you know how it went at the beauty shop.
Hugs!
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Suz - I'm glad you are okay. This may be a really dumb question, but are you sure they gave you the pre-meds before the actual chemo. I remember once with my mother's chemo that they gave her the pre-meds, but not the actual chemo, then called her later in the early afternoon to say....oops, we forgot to give you the actual chemo. So when I hear your story, I just think, maybe they forgot to give her the pre-meds.
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RJBaby and Pinkshirt:: I'm sorry to hear about your hair. 7 years ago I cried as I shaved my mom's head and now she gets to cry as she shaves my head next week.
Cooka: So sorry you are feeling so rough, I'm sending warm good feeling thoughts your way.
Suz: That sounds really aweful. Was it the Taxol? The exact same thing happened to my mom with Taxol, so I am a little worried about whether I will also be allergic. We seem to shareall the food and drug allergies, but one, so she is insistant on wanting to be there incase I have a reaction and no one notices. Actually, before I got cancer I used to joke with her whenever something would happen giving me all the junk genes and she would say, "I had the exact same problem at your age." I would never do that with this as I think she already feels bad, but I do worry about how similar are reactions will be.
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RJbaby, don't be scared. I'm so sorry that I have scared you. I wasn't scared at any point. They knew exactly what they were doing. And they were very proactive once they knew what was going on. I think that the deal is that you need to tell them right away if you have any symptoms. They are totally prepared.
Kimberly, my premeds were just the anti-nausea and the steriods, which I took orally, so I'm pretty sure that I got them. Do you mean something that they might include in the chemo solution? I don't know about that.
Suz
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Suz - Different oncology centers may have different practices, but we do share in common that we are both on TC x 4 (Taxotere and Cytoxan). You may have noticed that some people on this thread don't get Neulasta unless their counts tank out. My center gives it routinely as their protocol. Practices differ I guess. That being said, what they are giving me is Decadron 8 mg twice a day before chemo, the day of chemo, and the day after. In addition, I get Aloxi 0.25 mg and Emend 150 mg intravenously before the actual chemo drugs begin. The Aloxi and Emend are anti-nausea.
Your story with the reaction at second chemo, but not at the first, made me question what might have been different between the two. They give us the steroids (Decadron) to protect us from the reactions, I wondered if your steroids were IV before your infusion and were inadverently skipped. My mom had colon cancer. My sister has breast cancer. Neither one of them got steroids in pill form like I do. They got them before their infusions as a pre-chemo IV med. I don't know how they are giving you steroids, but when you had that reaction I wondered if it was missed somehow.
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Suz - If I had the reaction, my next question would be the source of the chemo-agents themselves. There are nationwide shortages, problems with purity, and gray markets as opposed to black markets for chemotherapeutic agents right now. When I got cancer and was sitting in my breast surgeon's office reading that in the paper I was like. F----, my body picked a fine time to have cancer, not bad enough my boobs are off but now I have to worry about this.
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Rjbaby, on a rational level I wasn't that upset when my hair started coming out. I knew it would happen and I accepted that. What was disturbing to me in a weird, visceral way was that I felt I couldn't get it clean anymore -- it was like it was dead and I didn't want it on my head anymore. I don't think I could've stood it another day, so I asked my husband to use the clippers, and we stood in the bathroom and he cut it off. Now it's thin (and very thin in a couple of places), but I'm so glad it's off. I've been using baby shampoo because it's gentle and it smells nice. *g*
I don't think there's anything special you need to do except keep reminding yourself that ... this is just a stage. It's temporary. At least, that's what I'm telling myself.
Hugs to everyone!
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To all September ladies, I am sorry about writing too much lately, I am feeling manic/depressive. I feel high on S/E waning after a lousy week. Then I feel like crying that I hurt PinkShirt's feelings when she is down. Then I do cry when I watch a youtube video on Komen's race which is coming up this weekend. The music on those videos gets me. Music will break you down like at a funeral. My sister wants me to go with her because her daughter dumped her this year (7-year survivor). I don't want to be a freaking pink shirt.
And all you bald ladies, I know you feel bad. I'm only 1/2 step behind you. By Easter we will have new bonnets, right with the seasons. -
Yes, but will we be able to sing like Judy Garland? (er, movie joke -- Easter Parade)
Don't worry about writing too much! This is Crazy Time. God knows I've been up and down -- there's no one "right" attitude to this.
You don't have to be a pink shirt. Husband asked me if I wanted to do one of those things and I said no. Your sister means well, I'm sure, but you don't have to go if you don't want to.
*hugs you* Wish I could have a drink with you.
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Bluejay - If you think my sister means well, you haven't met my sister
And she would say the same about me. I thank you so much for patting me on the head today. Can we put 1 year out to join up and meet if circumstances permit, ladies on this thread? I don't know where. Where would we like to go?
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I always wanted to see a redwood, that old, that big. What did you guys want to see? or perhaps a few days in New York.
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Suz I'm glad you're ok!
rjbaby I understand how you feel & it's completely normal & ok. The things we've gone through already...and on top of it all, now we're gonna lose all our hair. You can be as upset about it as you want. It's an emotional roller coaster. Mine will be gone at the latest tomorrow...I'm trying to hold out so I can go to a campfire with friends tonight...and I'm worried about getting my wig too close to the heat lol.
Kimberly, you can write as much as you want honey. We're all here for you. As for the pink shirt thing...I always go in the walk. But not this year! A couple people asked me & I just flat out said no.
If ever there was a time when you can say no & not feel guilty about it...well, this is it.And hey, if you can't bring yourself to fight for your right to not go...well, you could just suddenly feel exhausted on the day & decide to stay home for your health.
Would love to meet up! I just woke up tho, so I'm not quite clicking on all cylinders. Maybe later I'll come up with my dream location to meet y'all.
Cooka, it's day 8. Yay! How're you feeling today? My day 7 was pretty yucky too, but 8 was a lot better.
Hugs all! Off to shower & go to work. Really hope all my hair doesn't come out in the shower. Just hold on for one more day lol. -
Just wondering how long does it take after a taxol chemo for the hair to go? I am doing taxol x4 then ac x4 and wondering when I should shave the head. I already had it cut short so will not be a major dramatic difference.
and KIMBERLY--keep whining honey --you have earned it...we all have the right to whine once in a while!!!
My first treatment was Wednedsay and today the glands in my neck are hurting. Front and back of neck--so strange but otherwise feeling ok..making myself walk around the yard a couple of times a day to get things moving.
Maggie
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I am so sad about the hair issue also. I figure I am about a week out. Part of me wants to just get rid of it because the anxiety of losing it is too much. One thing that is helping is that my hair looks terrible. The texture is wierd and its also like greasy or something like bluejay58 wrote. Not to mention my grey roots are horrible. Hopefully this will all make it easier to take when it goes. I really wish my family and friends would stop making comments like "maybe you wont lose your hair" or "my cousins step sister had chemo and didnt lose her hair". I know they mean well, but they have no idea what they are talking about and its not helpful. Oh my... sorry for being a little cranky this am. Have a good and side effect free weekend everyone.
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I wish we could already meet just so we could have a head decorating party and have a big round of tears, laughs and hugs!
Kimberly: Sorry you are having a rough time. I'm sending you a big air ((((((hug))))))! My mom walks every year (7 year survivor) and when she asked about this year, I told her there was no way. I'm sure when I'm done I'll want to suppor this cause so we can get to a place where no women have to go through this, but right now I just want to get through this.
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Hey ladies! I haven't checked in for a while, but have been reading all the posts.
I am day 8, round 2 of TC x4. Again, I had mucousitis (nice word for severe diarrhea) from the C. MO had reduced the amount, but still got it. Its sorta frightening, but at least I know from round 1 that I should begin feeling better today. Gotta hydrate, can see the skin on the back of my hands doesn't look right.
You are all such brave ladies. Let's see....I would like to see the Grand Canyon. Never been there.
As for the hair, my experience was this: it was shedding like crazy on day 15 of round 1 so I had my military son come shave my head. I sobbed before he got here. And then an amazing thing happened. He took one swipe with the clippers and I began laughing! The stubble felt so weird, the air on my head felt wonderful, and I was accepting what was happening!!! I felt like I was in control of when I was going to wear the scarves and such and we don't have much control right now. Don't get me wrong....it sucks, but the bottom line is that our hair will grow back and our cancer won't! Still hoping to hold onto the eyebrows. Afraid to even touch them!
I need to comment on the whole pink thing too....a lady at work sent me the first of what I assume will be many goofy emails about breast cancer awareness month. Really???? Gee, maybe I am already aware of breast cancer????? C'mon!! Think! I was sorta angry and then amused. Yep, please make me more aware of breast cancer..yep.
So, sorry for not posting for a while, but please know that all of your posts keep me going each day. What a brave group of women! We will be well. We will strong. We will be healed.
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Hi Ladies!
Kimberley, keep writing. You are saying the things that sitting in my subconscious, and it helps me to read it. I think everybody here has the best intentions with their posts. I am so glad that you brought up the pink walk stuff, because I was kind of berating myself for not wanting to get involved. Soon after my diagnosis I inadvertantly drove past one of these walks in my neighbourhood. I felt so disjointed, that I didn't know about it, and then it made me sad and angry at the same time because all these women were cheering having a great time - I didn't feel like I could be around all that enthusiasm about breast cancer, and it made me feel bad about myself. So, I'm glad to hear that I am not the only one. I don't think that until I really feel like I might be a survivor, will I be able to participate.
Mags - my hair started falling out around day 13, and was completely gone by day 15. I am TCx4. I read on another thread that day 17 was a big day for hair loss, so you might have a few more days with it than I did. I had really thick and dense hair, so people made the comment to me that I might not lose my hair, but I did. I really don't want to lose my eyebrows - that is my next emotional hurdle.
Shelly, I'm not touching my eyebrows either! I don't want to lose them. I'm sorry to hear about your nasty SEs. I've heard that rice and bananas are good for binding things up again. My mother in law has made me some great rice porridge with shitake mushrooms, and it really settles my stomach, but I don't want to eat it because everything else I am on for nausea is constipating, so I have to be careful.
Hugs to everybody. I'm just planning to lay low this weekend.
S
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Shelley, LOL at the pink/ BC awareness thing! What an annoying time to have bc:)
Kimberly, I look forward to reading what you've written. I am not good at tracking what everyone is up to and you do a great job of kind of hitting the highlights. Also, you are good at voicing what alot of us might be feeling.
Day 8 and I feel soooo much better! Shawna you were right on:) I actually dreamt last night and slept all the way through. Woke up today and I feel great! Matilda (dog) is getting a good walk today to refresh her distant pee spots:)
I have discovered this new kind of yoga- I call it pillow yoga (the studio calls it urban zen). I used to do Bikram (hot yoga) but that is totally out of the question right now, I would pass out. This type has pillows and blankets and you spend a long time in deep stretches (sometimes the instructor comes around and massages you, a nice added benny). Really helps with body aches, and for me post BMX I am learning to open up my chest more and stop defending it by hunching my shoulders. Good stuff if any of you get a Groupon for yoga it might be worth checking out...
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Hey Kimberly - you didn't hurt my feelings at all. I'm just glad someone thought my story was funny because it was intended to be funny.
I know what you guys mean about the pink shirts. I picked my sign on name for that very reason. I have done the Walk for the Cure in the past to support a dear friend who is a survivor. I just never thought I would qualify for the pink shirt. This year's walk was a few weeks ago and I chose not to go although my whole family walked in my honor. I didn't feel emotionally ready to walk down the Survivor Lane since I just started my treatment. Next year, I will dance down the lane in a tu-tu.
My husband clipped my hair off for me last night. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Now I just have grey fuzz all over my head. I haven't seen my real hair color in years so it was a bit of a shock to see that it is mostly salt and very little pepper.
My hair shedding started on day 15 just like others have mentioned. Yesterday (day 16), it was coming out in clumps so I figured it was time. I didn't watch while my husband clipped my hair which I think was helpful. I just looked in the mirror afterwards, showered, then put on my terry cloth turban. Today I will wear the cute wig I bought a few weeks ago.
Thinking of you all today and sending strength.
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Hi ladies not sure if I should join Sept 2011 or just wait until Oct 2011 as my first chemo is on Sept 30. I am on ACx4 and Taxotere x4, my onc prefers this I so I have a better shot at not needing the Neulasta shot.
I am hoping to be able to work through this as my job is only part time and my boss is flexible with my hours (my onc thinks I am crazy buy I love may job). I have told the boards of all the charities I work with that I will be taking a break though.
I am going today to look at wigs and head covering and will pick up the rest of my chemo bag tomorrow. Not looking forward to 'chemo brain' as I am one of those hyper organized ladies with way to much on my plate. So keeping my fingers crossed that SE's are manageable.
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Hi Ladies, keep on writing, keep on bitching and keep on supporting. This is serious sh*t and if we can't all hang together, I feel like I'd be hung out dry ;-). My energy has been going up and down. I'm at day 6 after 1st chemo and although everyone says, "Wow you look great, etc." I feel like replying, "As great as I can with effing poison running though me," but I just smile and say thanks.
I keep eating small meals, but my mouth is so slimy. I'm using Biotene, but it's gross. Since I can barely eat, maybe I'll actually drop a few pounds. I've put on 10 in the past few years and would love have something good come out of this chemo (including no recurrence too).
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Kimberly: You keep right on writing! It is so helpful to me to come on here and read what everyone has to say. We've all earned the right to b*tch, moan, groan and whine all we want. I've been to hell but I'm not through getting through it yet! All you ladies here are helping me make it!
I liked that someone (was it you Cooka) that said they were going to take the dog for a walk to find the distant pee spots! That was too funny!
Suz: Don't worry about that. I'm not looking forward to treatment number 2 because, well, just because it bothers me that my SE's may be worse. What I had last time was mild compared to what I think is coming. But hey, I've been wrong before!
The hair thingy. Well, shaved mine today. I am 16 days post treatment today. Started shedding this past Wednesday pretty heavy not too bad. Thursday night in the shower was horrible! Friday went and saw my hairstylist and told him I was ready. Did the deed today at 1:00 p.m. Both my girls were there for support. When he got ready, the stylist asked both girls to hold my hand. I thought he was so sweet! Surprisingly, I only teared up for a minute. After it was all over and both wigs were styled, took lots of pictures! Oldest daughter hugged the stylist and just cried and cried. Hard to keep it together when you got an emotional kid. Youngest daughter seemed to deal with it lots better. But she's the quiet one and you never know what's really going on in her head. Keep in mind my daughters are 32 and 20. So they are lots older than most here. I'm sitting here drinking a wine cooler (yes I deserve it) and shedding a few tears as I type this. Losing my hair has been more emotional for me than anything I've been through. I can't figure out why. It just is what it is.
The Race for the Cure? Not for me this year. Maybe next year. Right now things are just too tender and I don't feel like a survivor yet. Geez! I haven't even made it through treatments. Maybe next year.
You ladies are always in my heart. You are all so strong! This sh*t sucks! But we will be okay, I just know it.
HUGS to each and everyone of us!
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Oh yeah! Something funny did happen to me today. I had to go back to the store to get my jacket and ran into an old co-worker/friend. She told me my hair rocked! She couldn't believe it when I told her it was a wig and that I had breast cancer. She just hugged me and told me I looked great and that she had thought it was my hair!
Yep....looking good!!!!
Hugs!
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Chemo #2 down! I got the flu shot while I was there too! The hemoglobin was up to 9.4 - we shall see how that works - way better than the 7.0 the week after the first chemo and closer to the 10.4 in June.
The new chemo bag I picked up in the German village while in Iowa for the wedding is perfect! Holds just enough water and snacks (an extra diaper, scarf and ball cap) and has room for any xtras like the contrast I have to drink for the CAT scan on the 10th.
I got to speak with the nurse practioner - while it is possible for the pathology tlip, there is more to it. We discussed drawing some of the abdominal fluid and possibly doing a biopsy of the of the seedlings in the abdominal wall so we shall see what the onc says. I think I am going to keep on top of this - she didn't totally dismiss it and I did see the other nurse practioner who loves my mysteries...she has helped me solve a few so I imagine she will pull my file and have a look!
Good Karma to the 09/2011 Chemo Group!
LowRider
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body aches really bad today and my glands in my neck are swollen...no fever though so should be ok...it's day 3. Colored my blonde hair --my short blonde hair red today and I really like it. Maybe when my hair grows back I will turn it red! I always wanted some redness to my hair so I used what was left of my daughter's color--kinda sangira like...makes my green eyes POP! First day I have felt pretty since BMX. I even put on some makeup to go to lunch with friends. Signed up for a Look Good Feel Better seminar on Oct 3, which is free for cancer patients. Hear they give you a great goody bag full of free products...check it out in you area!
Maggie
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Lowrider: Never got the flu shot. I will have to ask my onc if he thinks I need to. Sounds like you got a handle on things. Sending lots of good vibes your way.
Mags: I am so sorry! I'm seriously thinking of getting another wig.....a red one! Everyone is encouraging me to try it.....I might like it! I have hazel eyes so it might work for me too. Glad you are feeling pretty good. Hope you have a good time at the seminar.
Hugs!
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