Sept 2011 Rads
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Hi ashleere. I am taking tamoxifen with rads. I thought that was kinda different, but my MO (who insisted I start the tamoxifen right away knows that I'm doing rads). I only hope that these guys know what they are doing. The lack of info they have given me has not inspired confidence. I have gotten my info from his discussion board. Thank you so much ladies for your information and inspiration.
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Hi ashleere. I am taking tamoxifen with rads. I thought that was kinda different, but my MO (who insisted I start the tamoxifen right away knows that I'm doing rads). I only hope that these guys know what they are doing. The lack of info they have given me has not inspired confidence. I have gotten my info from this discussion board. Thank you so much ladies for your information and inspiration.
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Ceeztheday-My MO told me that on the East coast where he trained the protocol is often to double up on Tamoxifen and Rads. Here on the West Coast (for us wimps I guess) the protocol is to follow Rads with Tamoxifen. The advantages are that SEs can be identified more accurately and that women will not be saddled with two sets of SEs at the same time. When I was delayed for Rads due to infection, I was told that the Rads window was 3 months after surgery. I have a meeting with my MO next week to discuss that window with him as it pertains to Tamoxifen -- I will be asking him to begin the drug.
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Today I will be doing #22 of 33. That will make 11 left to go after that, or two weeks and one day, finishing up Columbus Day. It finally feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel. The center gave me an early appt today (7:30 am) because they're doing machine maintenance this afternoon. It will make for a long day for me, yet I am glad to get it out of the way early.
I am taking Tamoxifen while doing rads. One thing I've learned by reading up on many things on this website is there appears to be no one way to treat bc. It seems so many of us get different instructions from different doctors.
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CEEZtheDAY, all I know about changes in odors is when I was doing AC chemo, most things tasted kind of like metal and my appetite changed. So, I only ate certain things during that time, that tasted right, lost a lot of weight. Like so many treatments some are taking, could be you have wound up with strange smells as a side effect, even tho it's not listed. I like your idea of putting better smells under your nose!
MOSTLYSEW, gosh, I appreciated you commenting on my dental disaster! I wound up drinking milk, V-8, had some Cool Whip left (yum), and later whipped up mashed potatoes (not so good). When I go to the grocery store today after rads, I'm going to pick up stuff like apple sauce, lots of puddings, and soup. Until my pulled teeth places heal, it's a soft-liquid type diet, which suits me, I need to lose more weight!
DIVINE, oh, you are almost there!!! Two more weeks and a wakeup. Smile. I will be finishing up the Friday before Halloween, but wish mine were Columbus Day too. Great seeing you on this forum.
ALL, thanks for some feedback on stress. I think I will have to resume my walks, to get rid of the tension, as soon as it stops raining! I live in the mountains of NC and it has been raining steady for days. I hydroplaned when I went to the dentist, had to slow down on the freeway to 45 mph. Today is my busy day, going to grocery store and doing the bills. Hate doing that stuff, but at least I can do it now. For a long while, husband did groceries to help me out.
How is everyone's radiated skin doing? I've been putting prescribed aloe type lotion on it irregularly, but I now get confused on putting it on in the morning with rads at 1:00. They did tell me as long as I didn't put it on an hour before rads, in other words as long as the lotion had dried, it would be okay. I put it on twice yesterday, supposed to be three times, so guess I need to go put it on now. Oh, I'm just rambling now. Just wanted to share and ask about how you all's skin is doing. I've only had seven zaps, so skin looks fine now. GG
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dogeyed, sorry about the teeth, milkshakes are good too. Not exaclty diet food but soothing! My skin is doing great. Red and getting a bit of a rash, but not bad. The worst part is my nipple is sore but not unbearable.
asherlee I am not taking Arimidex until after rads. It is interesting how that seems to be different for everyone. I had a total hysterectomy at 42.
It sounds like everyone is hanging on and doing well. I hope you all have a great treatment free weekend!
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Hey y'all, I'm not taking tamox (or anything else) til after. But I'm supposed to have a hysterectomy sometime between now and then, so it might be a little longer.
I'm on #10 today. After #9 yesterday, I am 25% done!
It's Friday and I am exhausted again. Hopefully over the weekend, I'll start to perk up a little like I did last week. My skin's doing good, just a little bit of nipple soreness. I had some initial redness along the outer edge of my armpit, but it's turned brown now.
dogeyed, glad you got your teeth out that were worrying you. I had a milkshake yesterday too! I haven't wanted to eat much, so I figured it couldn't hurt. (Plus, I looked it up...17 gms of protein! For real!)
My regular tech wasn't there yesterday (at lunch) and I about had a panic attack on the table that the "new guy" wasn't doing it right. I saw my tech as I was leaving and told her she wasn't "allowed" to do that any more. She couldn't believe that it would make a difference to me. They are all so used to dealing with radiation stuff that they have a hard time believing it would make us nervous.
Hope today goes well for everyone and you have a great weekend with no zaps!
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SAB, that is a relief to hear that there is a 3 month window between surgery and rads. Not that I don't trust my RO, but he doesn't explain anything. Just tells me what to do. And while he wanted me to start right away, he is allowing me to wait a little longer at my request. I don't want a recurrence, but I got good margins (smallest was 5mm) and it was just DCIS, and I am already taking Tamox. I guess my MO is more "East Coast" because he encouraged me to start the Tamox asap, even before rads. Maybe I'm super estrogen+ or something. I dunno because my path report uses H-scores and my MO never explained what anything on there meant anyway. I find that all my DRs only tell me the bare minimum and seem almost aggrieved when I "pester" them with questions about what is going on with my own body.
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I have # 12 today and so far so good. The fatigue is even getting better. I think I just may have been overdoing it!
Good luck today girls and enjoy the weekend.
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stephN - I totally understand about the tech change! My site is a teaching center, and a couple of days ago they had a student doing my alignment. I had to fight back the tears. I know it sounds crazy, but I didn't want some 18 year old student doing my alignment. I wanted my regular techs.
I am amazed at how much rads emotionally affect me. I have shed more tears over them than I did over surgery and chemo combined!
13 of 33 for me today. I am very, very tired. Probably a combo of the rads and working full time. Today will be my 9th day straight working. Fortunately, I am off tomorrow, and am looking forward to not waking to an alarm for work or for treatment!
Have a great weekend everyone.
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Natters, my RO did tell me 3 months (I was so worried) but at about 2 months she suggested starting, even though my infection was still lingering. She said she wasn't comfortable waiting longer. So, a little bit of conflicting communication from her that I thought I would pass along to you to add into the mix as you make your choices.
I was very fortunate that my medical group insisted that I take the "grand tour of cancer" as my MO calls it. I was required to see each doctor on my team for an hour consult before beginning teatment. Before each meeting I would do research and write down all my questions. Each one of them were quite patient with me then, and now as new questions pop up that culture of communicating with patient still shows. It bothers me to no end when I hear about doctors or techs who think they are too busy to answer our questions fully. It is our right to know. I suggest writing down questions before your visit, being organized and efficient about getting answers.
As an aside I too had an issue with being adjusted differently by different techs. They took the time to show me how the table, tatoos and guide marks helped them to be consistent. It helped me calm down a little, but it does still bother me.
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Last week, the rad nurse suggested I buy a camisole with some stretch to it. She said it would offer some support to the breasts and help lessen the irritation on the underside of my breast. She said it would feel better than going without a bra. I bought a cami at Walmart a couple days ago, and I like how it feels wearing it; nothing is rubbing the wrong spots.
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Hi everyone, I'm starting monday. One off my markers fell off on the way home.
Everyone have a good weekend
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SAB, when I went in to meet my RO, I listened carefully to everything he and the younger DR said, and answered all their questions and submitted to yet another physical exam. Then when they had finished doing their thing, I whipped out my list of questions - which I had carefully thought out and then TYPED UP! I am always super prepared before I visit any DR, but especially a new DR. I usually type my list of questions and leave several spaces between them on the page to write in my notes. But I would just get shrugs and head shakes and dismissals like "not a problem" or "not a concern" to most of my questions. I don't have hardly any notes on my rads page because I didn't really get answers. I had to go online and do my own reading, for the most part. Luckily, my BS and MO are more forthcoming.
I think my RO is just more old-fashioned and paternalistic, or maybe more so with what he considers to be his "young lady patients." Like he is the expert and I should just do whatever he says, no questions asked! But I am going to stick with him because he is supposedly the best in this center that is more conveniently located to my job - and if I'm going to do something every day for 6 weeks, it had better be conveniently located. I did hear just yesterday from a lady I know who had a recurrence that her PS said that this particular RO did a fabulous job on her previously, because her skin looks awesome now.So hopefully I can overlook his bedside manner to enjoy the convenience and the nicer skin results.
TheDivineMrsM, my RO nurse told me that it might help me to wear a thin t-shirt underneath my bra when I start to get really irritated wearing bras for work and going out. She said that she recommends that to the older ladies who refuse to give up their underwires. I don't wear underwire often but I do wear a lot of really tight sports bras. Now I might try getting a camisole for nights at home, though. She recommended braless, but I am one of those women that is at-risk of underside irritation.Thank you for the helpful tip! I am trying to get everything prepared before I start rads.
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I gave up underwire bras the day I found the lump in my breast. The lump was in the 6 o'clock position. I am a D cup so that along with the lumpectomy incision being on the underside of my breast, I too risk irritation there.
So glad to have a break from rads for the weekend. Thanks all for helping me thru this part of the treatment; hope you all have a good weekend....
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I've had a student a couple of times too (fortunately the regular tech came in and checked her stuff), but one time, she had the thing that holds my arm in position on the wrong side. I said, "The arm thing's on the wrong side." She didn't believe me. She went to check the chart before she would change it. I'm pretty sure which side I only have 3/4 of a boob left on...
BernieEllen, don't worry about the markers. They're used to it. They told me not to rub the paint off in the shower. It was gone before I ever even got to the first shower. I called and they said not to worry about it, they redo them all the time...that's what the x-rays and photos are for.
Get some rest, girls. So happy it's the weekend!
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I seen the RO today and asked him all my questions. He had the blow me off attitude that he usually has, which just sends me into a pissed off dimension of unknown proportions! Any way, he said that my breast is smaller because of the surgery, there was swelling after and now that swelling is gone so this is what I have left. The Rads will make it swell again, then shrink even more! So, I could have reconstruction done 2-3 years later!!! Maybe I'm just very vain, but this upsets me soooo much! If I had know this I would have opted for the DMX with no Rads and would have been done with all of this and avoided the SEs of Rad. Hopefully, I will do better with this new knowledge over the weekend, after it settles in. But, right know I'm sooooooooo angry with what the Dr.s do and don't tell you, this whole BC diagnosis, and that there just isn't anything my poor husband can say or do to make this better, or anyone else. I know I have to suck it up, but when does the anger pass?
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Natters, Wow you sound organized! Maybe it's my own self-esteem issues
but I just hate feeling like I'm being brushed off. But good reputation and convenience go a long way...I hope your weeks fly by.
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Stormy, I had a lumpectomy and my breast is smaller. I am small breasted to begin with so I am having implants and breast lifts. I have an appointment with my plastic surgeon Sept 30. She needs to see what my skin looks like after radiation to let me know when she can do the surgery. Originally she said 1 to 3 months after radiation. I am 2 days post radiation, and I have a rash, and I am red, but nothing too bad. To my plastic surgeon peeling is the worst, and I am not. Have a great 2 days off everyone, and hurry up and meet me on the other side of rads. Congratulations again Juliana. Enjoy the radiation freedom. Remember to moisturize, moisturize, moisturize everyone. I think my skin is doing so well from Udderly Smooth Body cream and Miaderm.
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Stormy123 - I SO feel your pain!! Hang in there girl. We can do this. Thank goodness it's the weekend!
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CONGRATS KATEHUDSON25!! WHOO HOO You did it lady. You inspire me so much, enjoy your well deserved vacation.
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How sweet of you to think of me RevMama. I am so glad that you are inspired. Positive thinking can overcome so many barriers. Be well and have a great weekend.
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Congratulations Katehudson25 on finishing rads with minimal SEs!
Day 18/33 for me. I have a "sunburn" from the center of my chest across the left breast. There are tiny blister bumps that itch like crazy! My RO said NO underwire bras at all. Also recommended all cotton, tanks or sport bras.
My breast has an indent from the surgery and was initially swollen, then smaller and is now very full and round. I've accepted that it will never match the other one.
I have four techs that fuss over me every morning. I'm there all of ten minutes and each one finds a moment to talk to me. I couldn't be happier with my radiation center.
Enjoy the weekend off and take extra care of your skin!
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Thank you Leisah. I have worn an underwire bra all through rads and never had a problem.
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I am now 14 of 33 and sporting a nice light tan. Like Leighsa, I am very pleased with my techs. They are personable and attentive at each visit. Even the students have been great. One had to set everything up manually the other day, which added maybe 5 minutes on to the whole process.
It is amazing to me how different each of our experiences has been. I received a whole page of creams and lotions to use, along with a list of exercises to help maintian flexibility during treatment. There is a separate waiting area for each machine and I am able to change in the room where I receive treatment. I will say my RO is a little more dismissive of my concerns that my MO or surgeon but he's still given me straight answers. I put it down to his being very young.
I hope everyone enjoys a relaxing weekend.
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Had #21 of 33 today. I have an itchy rash on my upper chest and am pretty red around my breast and under arm. The whole area is sore. The worst is the open, weeping skin along my incision under my breast. They started me using silver nitrate cream. I'm fatigued but nothing like during chemo. SO glad to have a few days off!
How great for those of you that have gotten such good info from your center staff. My techs are really nice but they change every week or so and I hate that. My RO is cheerful but didn't seem to know much about lymphodema which surprised me because rads can exacerbate it. I've had to self-refer to PT for a compression sleeve. I've had to count on myself and other survivors for a lot of my info. Thank you all for being so helpful with that.
BTW - I'll be starting on Arimidex after rads are done. I thought that was typical protocol. I didn't realize it's done differently in different places. Interesting.
I'm participating in the "One Square Mile of Hope" tomorrow to benefit the Susan G Komen breast cancer research fund. I'll be in one of over 1600 canoes and kayaks forming a huge square on a nearby lake. We'll be submitting aerial photos to the Guiness Book of World Records. The small community I live in is so awesome! Think pink!
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14 of 33 today. I've heard some of you use Miaderm (Kate) and yesterday the RO gave me a couple samples to try. It's nice--absorbs very quickly, smells nice and seemed to reduce the redness.
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Miaderm is perfect when you go out. For in home care I use Udderly Smooth body cream. It is heavy, but very good.
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When do the side effects of radiation therapy usually start showing up? I had some pain near my collarbone today and am thinking it is too early for this to happen ; it is only day #4.
Thanks.
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Tonight, after 10, I am sore. Not a happy camper. Hoping it feels better after the weekend. And I'm ordering Miaderm.
Stormy, my RO was upfront with me about my breast getting smaller and firmer. Which is just peachy, because the BS took about a third of it and my nipple is already about an inch higher than the other one after my reexcision. I'm trying to look at it as a quirk, but I have to admit, it's hard to take.
Cherr, i haven't had any pain near the collarbone, but I was already feeling fatigue by day 4. Maybe it was a coincidence. I don't know. I've also not wanted to eat because I've had a vague kind of nausea and that started around day 4, too.
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