The insurance maze begins....

I ran into my first "we have to cancel your appointment until we get pre-cert from the insurance company" brick wall today. Fortunately my insurance is a PPO that supposedly covers 100% of my treatment (mx, reconstruction, chemo), although I've chosen an out-of-network plastic surgeon (I liked him that much that I'm willing to eat the 20% even if it takes a while to pay it back). However, I made a CT scan appointment for tomorrow night and the hospital called to say I couldn't go ahead until they got the pre-certification. Urgh!!!! That puts that off at least a couple of days.

Any advice or tips on dealing pro-actively with insurance companies? I've been taking notes on every call and keeping it in my file, at least. Thanks!

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  • cycle-path
    cycle-path Member Posts: 1,502
    edited September 2011

    You might consider posting this down below on the "Insurance and Other Financial Issues" discussion board.

  • LisaAlissa
    LisaAlissa Member Posts: 1,092
    edited September 2011

    On the question you asked:

    When your doctor suggests a test/procedure, as you book with their scheduler, ask them if they will be running it by your insurance company.  They typically have a staff member whose job includes making those insurance company contacts/getting preapprovals.  You might discover that they want you to have some other test first, and then they'll cover it.  That they need a letter citing "medical necessity" from your doctor. Or some other "hoop" you need to jump through before they'll approve whatever it is your doctor is recommending.  Or you may end up needing to use their formal appeal process (but use the informal steps first...).

    You didn't ask, but I thought I'd mention that if you're going to be using an out-of-network PS, you may be paying more than the "additional 20%."  Additional charges can come from at least three places that I can think of.  

    1.  Higher deductible for out-of-network providers.  If, for example, you've already met an in-network deductible of $2,000, so the insurance company will be paying 100% of your remaining in-network charges this year, when you go out of network, you may need to meet an additional deductible before your insurance will pay dollar #1.

    2.  "Usual and customary charges."  The percentages that your insurance company says they will pay are a percentage of the usual and customary charges for whatever the services/procedures that you're having.  And the insurance company says what the usual and customary charges are (based on surveys and other methods).  The in-network doctors agree that they will accept the insurance company's usual and customary payments as payment in full.  However an out-of-network provider hasn't agreed to limit their payment to the insurance company's usual and customary number.  And they usually don't.  So if the insurance company's U&C amount for a procedure is $100, your coverage is 70%, and your out-of-network deductible has been paid, then the insurance company will pay $70.  But the doctor charged $200.  You'll be paying $130.  And if you haven't met your out-of-network deductible yet, then only the $70 will count toward meeting the out-of-network deductible, but you'll owe the doctor $200.

    3.  An out-of-network doctor may work with other out-of-network resources (hospitals, labs, anaesthesiologists, etc.) all of whom will also be more expensive.

    So if you decide to use an out-of-network provider, I'd ask to sit down with their financial person first to sort out what your costs will be.

    HTH,

    LisaAlissa 

       

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited September 2011

    Thanks. I might repost. 

     Lisa - those are great tips. I just got a reimbursement check for the first plastic surgeon I saw (I had 3 opinions each for breast surgeons and their respective PS) that I decided not to go to. First off, the PS office never mentioned they were out of network, so that was a surprise. They haven't billed me yet, but I assume that's coming next. Looking at the reimbursement breakdown, you're right about the extra deductible (if indeed that PS is out of network). 

    I tried settling some of those questions, but the doctor's office said they can't give me a figure until the insurance company tells them me what the allowable rate is, and the insurance company couldn't give me a figure until the doctor's office sends them a pre-determination form.

    The good news is, from what I have been told by the insurance company, the actual breast surgeon and hospital, including radiology, is in-network. 

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