I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2011

    Thanks everyone! I am enjoying an excellent day - grandchildren will be with me shortly.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited September 2011

    Happy Birthday, Lassie!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2011

    Lassie -- another happy birthday wish coming from me!  And a hug to my Mr. Toffee who is also celebrating his 8th b'day today!

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2011

    Happy Birthday, Lassie!

    I think the Canada haters are secretly jealous.

    Mary 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2011

    Happy Birthday Lassie!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2011

    Mary, as someone very wise recently pointed out to me, it's easy to hate a person, or a country, that you know virtually nothing about.  Anyhow, with the plethora of license plates I see every day here from all over the U.S., I guess there are some who don't hate us -- unless they have a bad experience while they're here.  Then they have an excuse!

    It's a beautiful day here, and the windows are wide open.  There's a live band playing outdoors at the seniors residence up the street.  Right now I'm hearing a rocking version of "Splish Splash, I was Taking a Bath".  The band and the audience obviously love 60's rock'n roll! 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2011

    gracie, thinking of you.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited September 2011

    When the first plane hit, I was getting coffee in a little shop on Avenue A and 3rd Street -- about 2 miles north of the WTC.  There was a loud boom -- we all thought a truck must have jumped a curb and hit a storefront nearby -- I poked my head out the door and saw no traffic accident -- everyone was mystified.  Then I walked a block west to First Ave to catch a bus uptown.  Standing at the bus stop, I saw a huge plume of gray smoke and said to the people around me -- what's that huge fire?  Is it in Chinatown or something?

    Bus came -- took it to 14th Street where I was switching to subway (wending my way to 9:45 am shrink appointment on Upper West Side) -- on the subway, a woman said "I heard a plane just crashed into the WTC -- my friend works there -- I hope he's okay."  At this point, I pictured a small private plane, lost or disabled pilot...

    When I got off the subway at 86th and Broadway, everyone was talking to everyone about a SECOND plane -- now it was clear it was 2 jumbo jets, commercial flights, an attack.  Got to the doctor's and we looked at each in distress -- he said the Pentagon had been hit, there were news reports of car bombs in DC (there were a number of reports like that throughout the day -- about things happening that later were said not to have happened).  Anyway, we put the radio on for a bit, wished each other well, maybe we hung out for 20 minutes...

    I started walking down Broadway.  No phones were working, not payphones or cell phones.  Didn't even want to think about getting back on subway at that point.  Buses heading downtown were packed full.  Just kept walking.  Vehicles parked at curbside had their doors open, radios on -- kept pausing to listen to radios and talk to whatever group was gathered at that radio.  Bus stops were plastered with garish posters for a new Schwarzenegger movie about a terrorist attack -- that movie was never released and the posters came down in a couple of weeks, but it was certainly creepy on that day.  Just kept walking downtown.  Such horrible things happening on such a beautiful day -- looked like a volcano had erupted down at the end of the island, and I just kept heading for it.

    I've reached Broadway and 54th -- Ed Sullivan Theater (Letterman show) -- huge video monitors visible from outside are SHOWING A WTC TOWER COLLAPSING.  I don't understand what I'm seeing.  Is this a computer simulation?  Another bad-taste terror/horror movie?  Maybe I only had this sensation for a second, but it all felt like slow-motion.  All of us on the street had our mouths open.  I guess I asked, "Did it really collapse?" and someone answered "yes."  So many people are in the streets, stunned like I am.  Policemen, firemen, ambulances, and (already) construction workers are racing downtown.  Most of the rest of us are just stunned-calm, trying to stay out of the way of people who knew where they were going...

    I had thought I would walk to 42nd Street and then take bus or subway the rest of the way -- but by the time I get to 42nd Street, subways have been stopped, and only uptown buses are running.  The policeman who tells me this at 42nd Street said -- "you don't want to go downtown -- we just got another call that more things are happening there."  He says I can walk back to work (17th Street) and will need ID to get home (i.e., below 14th Street).  I keep walking.

    At 30th Street, I start to smell the smoke.  I'll smell it for the next week.  Somewhere just north of 23rd Street/Flatiron Building -- a wave of evacuees appears -- 20, 30, 40 people covered in white ash.  One young woman in her 20s is barefoot, looking so alone and traumatized, moving slowly (the rest seem purposeful).  It seems no one headed downtown is speaking to any of the ash-covered people heading uptown.  Maybe they need their space.  But this girl -- I wonder if she needs something.  We've made eye contact -- she seems so lost -- I speak to her very gently and ask if there's anything I can do for her -- get her a bottle of water? -- she says no, but says "I almost died!"  I think she just needed to tell somebody that!  I ask her if she has a place to go -- she's going to a friend's -- I can't remember much of what we said, just that it seemed needed to gently speak to her, as if I recognized that she WASN'T A GHOST!!!  She didn't want water, or shoes!  Just to say that she almost died.  Then her friend came.

    From there to work (17th and Second Ave) is kind of a blur... don't remember which street(s) I walked east on.  Must have been noon by then.  At work (a small hospital specializing in orthopedic surgery), doctors, nurses, stretchers are all lined up outside -- waiting for a second wave of injured (a first wave had been treated) -- and what was so horrible was that there never was that second wave...

    Back at my desk -- email.  Lots of emails from my brothers and sisters, friends outside New York.  At some point in the afternoon my son was able to reach me by phone at work --  he had just started his freshman year at college -- about 40 miles north of NYC -- classes were cancelled, but they'd been told it was best to stay there, especially if home was NYC -- I agreed.

    Well -- that's enough story, I guess.  A neighbor in my building was a Port Authority security guard at WTC -- she got out just before tower collapsed.  And she'd suffered smoke inhalation in the 1993 bombing there...  Thank heavens she was okay.  Gave her my spare building key because hers was in her purse, in the rubble...

    The oddest thing -- a friend of mine who had died of melanoma in 1998 had lived on Chambers Street, very near the WTC -- I kept thinking "Is Tom okay?  Is Tom okay?  How is Tom doing?"

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited September 2011

    Wow Ann .. thank you for sharing ... what a moving description of events in NYC on that horrible day.  I'm so glad you were safe.

    love you,

    Bren

  • pickle
    pickle Member Posts: 1,409
    edited September 2011

    Ann your story is so incredibly descriptive. I've been to NYC a couple of times, so while you are naming the streets that you walked that day, I can visualize the areas but truly can't imagine the horror of what you were witnessing. Thank you for sharing.

    Beth 

  • kad2kar
    kad2kar Member Posts: 336
    edited September 2011

     Thank You, Ann, for sharing your memories with us..  Like Bren I lived in SoCal with my Canadian DH,DS,&preciousGDaughter. I called my mom in AZ and she let the rest of family in AZ know. I went crazy trying to get in touch with my exDiLove,not DiLaw. We finally got our wires connected. The only thing I can remember that I did that day was go to the mall, which was closed until further notice. My DH had a layoff from LBAirport(imagine that). I felt we would see 10s of thousands dead because it WAS NYCity and the busiest buildings in the city.It was definitely an horredous day for many people around the world. PEACE to those we lost that day and in the ensuing years since then.---------kad2kar

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited September 2011

    Ann, thank you. I could feel every step you took that day.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited September 2011

    Happy birthday lassie!

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited September 2011

    Condolences to anyone who lost loved ones.

    Big day - Musee de L'Orangerie, followed by lunch and a rest, then we foolishly set off for the Eiffel Tower around 5pm - got back to the hotel at 9:30pm!!! We went to the top and I made DH buy champagne for us - I don't think I have stayed on my feet for so long since I worked in a dept store as a teenager. The queues were incredible - far too many people, but it was great to see Paris from on high.

    Tomorrow we go to Wales - we will take advantage of the 12 noon check out and then go for lunch nearby - need to get to the airport a couple of hours before the flight as it is one of those dodgy airlines - don't trust them. We have to get a cab (hooray) as the shuttles were booked out - lucky me.

    Sue

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited September 2011

    Wow, amazing remembrances, Ann and HappyLibby.  Thank you for sharing. 

    Peace and Love, everyone.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited September 2011

    Ann, I am touched by your remembrance.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited September 2011

    Adding my thanks to Ann for sharing that story (and for your kindness to that young woman ten years ago).

    L

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited September 2011

    Ann - thank you. I, also, could visulize every step you took. What a horrible time in our history. I'm watching a replay of Today from 9/11 on MSNBC. Those familiar voices so badly wanted to believe it was an isolated small plane that hit the first tower. We'll never think that way again.

    Lassie - hope you have a grand day.

    Susie - I'm loving being on your trip with you! Your DH is quite a loud snorer.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited September 2011

    Lassie, Happy Birthday!!

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited September 2011

    Ann, thank you for sharing that story.  ((((HUGS))))))
  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited September 2011

    I was getting ready for bed when the planes hit so had no idea till the next day.  When I got up the next morning, my sons, aged 9 and 13, were eating breakfast while watching some disaster movie on TV.  I had a shower, got breakfast and returned to see the same scenes being replayed, then it struck me that the people jumping to their deaths were real.  I'm normally up first and was horrified at the realisation that the boys had seen all this unsupervised and I was too upset to know what to say to them.  I called their school to be sure it wasn't cancelled as it seemed the world as I knew it had collapsed, and to ensure they had a plan in place to deal with the situation.  They assured me the best thing was for the kids to get to school and talk it out with their friends and they did get through it surprisingly well. 

    My husband left for work very early to avoid the rush hour and first heard about it in the lift.  He worked for Qantas so it affected flights. I think it took me a year to get over that shocked feeling. My thoughts are with you all, especially Ann and anyone else who was near the scene or lost people. 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2011

    I was home alone and my mother called and told me to turn on the TV.  I couldn't believe what I was seeing.  When the first tower went down, well, I had no words, still don't.  ((((((((Ann)))))))))

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited September 2011

    Does anyone know why Sunflowers had two posts "removed by the community"? In addition to the one removed by moderators? I'm not sure that any rule was violated. Referencing other names in other web site can't be the reason, surely? Those are "handles" - just like "1Athena1" is a handle, so there is no violation of privacy or revelation of personally identifying information. If that's what it was - I'm grasping at straws. Not sure. Anyway, waving at sunflowers and hoping you are having a decent Sunday.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2011

    Not good!  Sunflowers posts were not as offensive as some others.

  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited September 2011

    And now for bragging rights.  Sam Stosur did the impossible and beat Serena Williams!  I never would have believed it as two of her matches had been well over two hour battles whereas Serena walked through all her lead up games in straight sets. Serena gets a big financial bonus on top of her winnings so they both did well out of it.  Well done to both.

    I didn't get to sleep till after 3am then woke 3 hours later to listen to the match. Thanks to the garbage collectors for waking me at the right time!  Australians don't win many grand slams. 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited September 2011

    I'm waving at Sunflowers too .. and wondering how long she's going to be on time-out.  I didn't see anything wrong with her posts.

    hugs,

    Bren

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited September 2011

    Ann, Thank you for sharing what you went through that day.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited September 2011

    Well.. Stoeseer won!!!!  great games!  She played wonderfully.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2011

    1Athena1-

    Referencing names from the other website is probably exactly why Sunflowers' posts were removed "by the community". Enough of them report her post, it gets removed.

    I agree, those names are not their real names, so why get all tied up in knots about it?

    I'm also waving at sunflowers!

    Mary 

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited September 2011

    HL and Ann - thanks for sharing your stories and Lassie Happy Birthday!

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