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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    I had to share a thought with you all, I will blame it on the full moon tonight.

    I was looking at the different post in the main forum and looking at the screen names. The thought went through my mind for a screen name that you wouldn't find on a breast cancer board.

    Gotmilk.....I laughed to myself.....It is not funny, but I just couldn't help it. I had to share my moment of humor. I really needed that laugh tonight, hope it made you smile too.

    I would only share it with you girls, in our own world here on the boards.

    Love to all in our sisterhood.
    ML
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    Debbie so glad you had a great night. Michael and I had a little romance tonight! He had to work a long shift yesterday , so I pulled out all the stops tonight. Whip cream and cherries too! LOL

    I had a small break down just before, I hate seeing myself in the mirror, and we have the sliding closet mirrored doors on his large closet. So that set the wrong mood, (We will be getting new ones soon, so glad. )and we almost didn't have our night for us.

    But he held me and told me I was still a beautiful woman in his eyes. I soon was okay, but blindfolded him anyway. Felt better that way.

    It was good to connect again, I miss that part of us. I'm just to sick or tired for much at all.

    I think the pink ribbon idea is great and March first sounds good as a cut off date.

    Gives me something to look forward to.

    Night all

    Mary Lou
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2006
    Mary Lou,
    Glad you had a wonderful night with Michael. I cried the first time Anthony and I had a romantic evening and he just held me. I'm glad the "first" time was over with. LOL!! I felt better then.
    LOL! at the gotmilk.
    Deb, thinking of you today, hoping you get your chemo today.

    hugs
    Kim
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    Debbie, hope you are feeling well after treatment. Kim, LOL, I thought that "Gotmilk" screen name would give you a smile.

    I was up last night with my legs again, they just wouldn't stop hurting. I'm calling my ONC to see if he can give me another pain med.

    At least with A/C I could sleep the night and day away and it was over. This is all the time.....

    This just has to stop, it has been 7 days and not much relief at all.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Hi Ladies-Well, I have not had full treatment for the third week in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That was truly a yell.
    My platelets are starting to go up, but my WBC went down....way down....and they didn't want to give me Neupogen for some wacko reason. So, I play the waiting game, AGAIN!!!!!!!

    I guess I should be happy I got taxol at least.

    Mary Lou, I just cracked up at the screen name you came up with. Only breastcancer ladies could see the humor in that! I also giggled at the fact that you blindfolded your hubby. I wanted to the first time we were intimate since losing my hair, but thought I'd just crack up the entire time. The sheer irony of the situation would have gotten me. Not to go into detail, but my dh has wanted me to do that since we've been together, and it would have taken breast cancer for me to do it???!!

    Don't forget to email me if you want to do the Pink Ribbon Exchange!
    Love and prayers, Debbie
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2006
    Debbie, I am sorry you didn't get your full treatment. I heard your yell loud and clear. LOL!!

    Kim
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Hey ladies, would anyone be against my opening up our "Pink Ribbon Exchange" to the triple negative women? I would love to open it up to everyone, but I don't know if I can coordinate that many people. Can you all let me know?

    I hope you are all feeling good. I feel pretty good considering I haven't gotten the "good stuff" for three weeks now. ACK! I just want this over with already!!!
    Love and prayers, Debbie
  • cojadeb
    cojadeb Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2006
    Hello Ladies,

    I realize it it has been forever (once again) since I have been on, but between treatments, work, the damn lymphedema that has popped up on me, the marriage counseling that I have no idea if its working, and my little late nite trip to the hospital I don't seem to have a lot of "me" time to get on the computer.
    I have had had 2 of my 24 weekly carboplatin/Xeloda treatments and they seem to be going well except for the queasy feeling I have 24/7. I head for #3 on Monday. I had my first base line mammogram a few weeks ago and it came back normal. I have to say that was the best news I have had in this past year.
    I am up and down emotionally right now as I come up on my 1 year anniversary of diagnosis. I really thought I would be done with treatment by now and am trying my best to keep my frustration at a minimum but knowing I still have almost 6 more months to go has a tendency to frustrate me even more.
    My kids who have been my rock for the last year had to take me to the er this week when the stomach flu sent my fever to 101 and I couldn't stop puking because my husband was out of town on business. This was the first time since all of this started that I have had any sort of problems and it scared them to pieces. I thankfully bounced back quickly and after a lovely IV of fluids, pain meds, anti-nausua, pepcid. I got to go home. It was like having chemo, just push that crap on through me lol, only this time I actually felt good when they were done.
    I started PT for the lymphedema which has been blamed on by a number of things depending which doc you ask. Onc. and PT think it is mostly from the taxetere. I am thinking they are right swelling has gone way down since I finished with taxetere and everyday gets better. Also caught in time and with exercises and self massage she thinks I can keep it under control.
    Biggest stress issue I have right now is my husband. He hasn't and isn't dealing with any of this . He has skipped numerous doctors appts. since July and even missed a counseling session. I love him to pieces but at this point just not sure if its enough anymore. At times I think he's trying and we will be ok and at others I think it will be very tough for me to forgive his not being here for me during any of this when I am finished. Ok, I am done venting.
    Hope everyone is doing well with their treatments. I keep checking for hair, and making the kids check but they just laugh and say no, not yet. Still wondering what color it will come in this time.
    For those of you with hair coming in and your eyebrows and eyelashes still falling out, that is normal it is really your new brows and lashes pushing them out. Brows grow really fast, eyelashes a little slower but it is almost like they just suddenly appear enough for mascara.
    Thoughts and Prayers to all of you.
    Deb
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2006
    Deb, good to see you around here. Life does get crazy, doesn't it? I wish more of our November sisters would check in now and then to let us all know how they are doing. I went back and reread the posts from the beginning. Congrats on your mammogram. I am glad your children are there to be your rock. I am sorry to hear what is going on in your marriage. You can vent here anytime, all the time.
    Debbie, sure why not ask the triple negs if they want to join. It would be a lot to ask in general to everyone. Maybe more November sisters will want to join us.

    Whose getting treatment this week?

    hugs to all,
    Kim
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Hi ladies, I will open up our exchange to the triple negatives.

    I HOPE and PRAY I get treatment this week!!!!! grin....

    Deb-I agree with Kim. I am really sorry to hear about what is happening with your marriage. My hubby and I had a weird struggle yesterday-I'm not going to try to compare our situations, but just know that I can empathize with how tough cancer is on a marriage.

    I agree with Kim. I wish our November sisters would check in lots more! I am so connected with all of you, and hold you all in my daily prayers.

    Love and prayers, Debbie
  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited February 2006

    Hi November ladies, I have been doing pretty good with Taxol. I have my 7th taxol tomorrow and then one to go. I found with AC I was more in a chemo fog and slept more so it went by faster. Because I feel better with Taxol it seems to be taking a lot longer. I also seem to be a lot more hyper on Taxol. I do get tired at night but my mind seems to be racing which is not a good thing since I am a type A personality. I find myself thinking more about my breast cancer diagnosis and what comes next where on AC I just wanted to get from treatment to treatment. I have decided to continue on with rads even though I am in the gray area as to whether I need it. The decision was not an easy one to make because there is a chance my implant will fail. My breast surgeon said I don't need rads but my radiation oncologist told me that I should consider it (didn't tell me I needed it) if I want to be as aggresive as I say I do. I have also been spotting for over 7 weeks now. My oncologist says I am operating on two cylinders and thinks I will go into menopause. I am 49 so I hope he is right. It seems like there is a battle going on between the chemo and my ovaries. If the ovaries win I may just have to remove them because I am strongly ER/PR positive and they got me into this situation in the first place. Anyway, I am looking forward to being done with chemo but my treatment will be far from over. After rads and possible ooperectomy, I will have surgery for the permanent exchange of my implants and after that they will put on nipples. Talking to you ladies on this thread has been such a help for me while going through this part of my treatment. You have all been so wonderful. I hope that everyone continues to do well with their treatments. We will all beat this and we will be stronger and better because of it. I believe that in my heart.

  • Margerie
    Margerie Member Posts: 526
    edited February 2006
    I will be half done with my taxol+herceptin tomorrow and half done with rads this week. It sure will be nice to be on the back half of both. I am doing well, but this isn't my idea of a good time. I hope I don't fall apart when treatment is over, as I have been in battle mode since dx in Oct.

    My husband gets asked questions when he picks up our kids at school "They caught it early right?" "She's going to be fine, right?" He says "She's doing fine. And catching it early would have been catching it a year before it started."

    For some comic relief I tried all of my wigs on my husband yesterday. HILARIOUS!!

    Well, I am off to the lab for a blood draw.

    May your week be one of minimal side effects and great thoughts,

    Margerie
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Hi Margerie-I totally agree with those dopey questions people ask. Some of my favorites are, "What's the prognosis?" or, "So do they think it will go into remission?" DUH!!! Like my hubby is going to say, "Her prognosis is really poor," or "No, they don't expect remission, but we thought it'd be neat to try chemo out."

    I also had to laugh about the wig on your hubby. The night I wore my wig for the first time out I was really down, so my hubby walked into the room with my wig on, and just sat down waiting for me to notice. I cracked up. It looks better on him than it does on me, that is for sure!!!

    Isn't anyone else interested in our "Pink Ribbon Exchange?" I have 4 of us so far, including me. I'd love for there to be more! Email me directly at
    thebandteacher@yahoo.com
    Love and prayers, Debbie
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited February 2006
    I think you are great to organize the pink ribbon exchange. I am just not reliable enough these days to participate in something like that. I can't finish much of what I start, and couldn't handle the guilt right now. I respect you and wish you well though.

    I hope all of you who so want treatment get it this week! Every time I go in I prepare myself for the possibility that my counts are too low and that I get turned back. I consider myself lucky to have been able to get every scheduled treatment thus far. I am keeping my fingers crossed for all my sisters.

    I got my Taxol/Herceptin #5 today. This weekly stuff is so much easier to handle fatigue-wise than the A/C, and I can't complain of any side effects other than a huge lump in my throat on days 1-4 and some swelling in my hands, but just going to the oncologist's office every week is so nerve-wracking. I still want to cry when I leave the house on Monday mornings, and I have noticed my husband being especially sweet to me starting on Sunday afternoon. He's pretty much a sweetie, but he gets oh so careful with me the day before treatment. He is doing so much and I am not doing half enough to show him my appreciation.

    I started working with a lymphedema therapist last week and she is doing manual drainage massage to get control over the swelling I noticed along my torso (which my breast surgeon told me was in my imagination and which my oncologist looked at and immediately wrote me a prescription for LE evaluation). The therapist will eventually teach me to do the massage myself. I am so hoping that if I can manage this with the massage and won't have to to the wrapping and binding, cause how do you wrap your torso anyway?

    I agree about the things people say. I have gotten pretty good at changing the subject, though. I know they are doing their best, and in a way I have more compassion for the ones who bumble along and say things that leave me speechless as opposed to the ones (my husband's friends or associates) who call and pretend they don't know who I am when I answer the phone and simply ask to speak with him, then ask him all about me and tell him to give me their very best wishes, etc. etc. I am learning how hard it is to face cancer from the outside and I sometimes wonder how inept I perhaps was before all this.

    I just wanted to check in with you all and send my best wishes for strength and healing to all my chemo sisters.

    Love to you, Kaye.

    Hugs to all.

    Anna
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Thanks Anna for saying that-I appreciate it. Maybe you can do the next one?

    It sounds like we are all feeling much better with our new cycle of meds. Thank Heavens!
    Daniel is cranky, I'd better go....Love and prayers, Debbie
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2006
    Hey girls. I wanted to let you all know that I am having a Brain Scan (MRI) on Friday. This wasn't a planned thing. My PET Scan is still scheduled for next Wed. I have been having something funky going on in my right eye. Onc. didn't feel it was anything serious to worry about (mets to brain) but to go to an opthamoligist. I did last Friday and then again yesterday. Eye doctor doesn't really know what is going on, but something is. Onc. office says it is highly unlikely for it to spread, since I had a scan in January, blook work and markers have been fine. It doesn't make sense. Anyway the onc. said to put my mind at ease, not his we will order a MRI. The eye doctor and my onc. spoke this morning and both feel the MRI will give more definate answers. Speaking to many women here on the mets board and the onc. feel that the chemo can do a number on eyesight. I hope and pray that is what is causing the vision blur. So Friday I am going at 11:30am. Please please say an extra prayer that everything turns out ok and it is just the chemo.

    thanks
    Kim
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    Kim, my prayers are with you. Is the eye blur a permanent thing? I have a hard time with my eyes too. Age doesn't help either.



    Debbie I think we should include the TN gals too. I'm looking forward to this.
  • pegco
    pegco Member Posts: 8
    edited February 2006
    hello ladies,
    How long does it take for your hair to start coming out,
    I asked my husband to shave my head, and he looked at me
    like I had two heads. I want to be in control of my hair
    not my hair controling me. What do you all think.
    Peggy C
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited February 2006
    Peggy, mine showed signs of wanting to go 10 days after first A/C, so I took care of it them and there. I had cut it real short just before chemo, so I was pretty used to the idea of no more flowing tresses anyway. As soon as I saw little pieces of hair on my pillow off I went to the beauty parlor and she did a velcro buzz. Later on I had my husband use his electric razor on what was left, because it kept messing up my hats and tickling down my shirt.

    Kim: are we talking a bit of a blur, more blur than usual, or serious, sight-hindering blur? I am finding that my reading glasses have suddenly gotten too weak, but what you are talking about is more than that, right?

    So, MRI of the head, then a PET scan? Why the PET scan now? Have you finished with chemo?

    Anna
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited February 2006
    Hi ladies - I've started to write a post several times and for some reason I never finish it. I’m so emotionally drained from this whole journey it has been very difficult to put my thoughts down in a coherent way. The best way to describe me these days is EMOTIONAL!!!!!! I haven't gotten a period and the hot flashes are extremely uncomfortable. Could it be menopause????? I don’t think I was emotionally ready for it. I see my Onc tomorrow hopefully there is something he can prescribe to help with the symptoms. This has been a long and difficult journey. I will be finished with chemo next week but instead of feeling excited I am barely hanging on by a thread! Where do I even begin to gather the energy for rads????? Okay…I’ll quit now.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Odalys, Good to see you here again! I have been wondering how you were-haven't heard from you for a bit. I can understand the emotions-I was rocking Daniel tonight and was suddenly in a fit of tears because I freaked out that I may die and he won't know his mommy. I'll pray for your comfort.

    Peggy-I am completely in agreement with Anna. My hair started to shed on Thanksgiving Day (Exactly 15 days after chemo began), and by Monday I was in the salon getting it shaved off. I cried miserably the entire time, couldn't look at myself the whole day, and forced myself to look at my head and touch the stubble that night before bed. Nonetheless, I had an epiphany about a week later when I was washing my head stubble. My hands were covered in bits of stubble and I realized if I had not shaved my head, that would have been LOTS OF HAIR! It was much easier for me to see stubble on my hands rather than my hair. My hair was really long prior to this hooey we call chemo, and I had also cut it short before treatment. Anyway, I guess I am a big supporter of shaving. My hubby shaved his head for me, and I cried. I guess we do a lot of crying on this journey, don't we?

    Mary Lou, I did open it up to the TN sisters, and I've gotten some other replies. I think we are up to 7 or 8 of us now? I would like to see at least 10 to make it fun.

    Finally,

    Kim-I will pray for your comfort, too. I know you must be really scared right now. The thing is, it could be so many things, and I bet that gives you absolutely no comfort whatsoever! I know that whenever I get any sort of ache or pain I immediately freak out that it is mets. My headaches all convince me that I have brain mets, my backaches convince me spine mets. This is scary stuff. Please know that we all surround you with love and support.

    I had some weird body aches today, called oncologist, and got Levaquin. He hopes (or is it that I hope?) that my WBC is so low that I am fighting infection. Gheesh. I thought I should be feeling good today! I usually do on Tuesdays and Thursdays....

    Gotta go to bed...Daniel has an eye doctor appointment at 8 am. I have a hard enough time getting him fed breakfast by then nowadays! Love and prayers to all, Debbie
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited February 2006
    Oh Odalys, I so relate to you and to being EMOTIONAL. I am excited to hear you are almost finished with chemo! You have been through so much, let yourself fall apart as much as you need to; you'll be back, strong, calm, you'll have new energy and soon this will all be a memory.

    Hugs,

    Anna
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited February 2006

    Thanks Debbie and Anna. It's hard for me to fall apart, I don't do the victim role very well. Also, when I do fall apart my family does not know what to do so they avoid me. I am noticing that I'm very angry and confrontational this week. Yikes!!! How is that saying - If momma isn't happy, nobody is happy.

  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    Pego,
    My hair started to fall out 14 days after my first A/C treatment. My husband did the buzz cut for me and he did it to himself. See the pictures on my web site. Under the long road of cancer.

    I had a party, and yes I took my control back before it had a chance.

    At Christmas the children ( all grown ) painted my head along with my husband and friends.

    This is a long journey and I needed to have as much fun as I could while going through it.

    And I only plan on being bald once in my life ! Good luck, and show that husband of yours this site too.
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    Anne and Odayls , that was me last week, just could not get my act together. I cried at the drop of a hat. I have been in such pain I just think I'm going to lose it any minute . But I'm trying to hold on.

    Glad to see you both on the boards. I really miss it when you are gone to long.
    I have another treatment on Thursday. I have had maybe two days out of the last two weeks that I have felt half way normal. What is normal? I have forgotten.

    Debbie , glad to hear we have more gals. I'm ready for this box to be sent all around to us.

    Hope special Kaye is doing okay, She is in my prayers. Along with all the rest of you. Hugs to you Kim, hope all turns out well with you.

    Debbie good luck to you and hugs.

    Love
    ML
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2006
    THanks girls. I am feeling a little better today. Onc. is convinced this is just due to the Taxotere. I am having the PET Scan next week because the original thought was 6 Taxotere's and then figure out what is going on. Did my 6. Now we have to make sure the MRI is good, and then decide what to do about the breast mass. Hopefully it shrunk and either surgery, more Taxotere, or different chemo. The unknown is taking over right now.

    Kim
  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited February 2006
    Kim, I pray that all goes well with your tests.

    Odalys, I understand the emotion thing. I had my 2d to last Taxol treatment yesterday. I am high on the steroids today but when I come down tomorrow I will be very emotional and depressed. I will be happy to be finished with chemo after next treatment, but it can also be frightening. It seem that the only way they monitor you after treatment is with symptoms. Don't get me wrong I hate having the scans but when treatment is over I know that I will worry that every little symptom means the cancer cells popped up in another part of my body. I guess that is the new norm for all of us. I still have rads to do, hormonal therapy to start and then my implant exchange surgery so I guess I have a while longer before I am totally on my own with this big bad disease.

    Kay, hugs and prayers to you always.
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006
    I have hair and it is growing! It is very thick, and some of it is longer than just fuzz. It is sticking straight out. ( Stick straight.) Will it stay that way? Or begin to curl later? I don't want curly hair. I had a natural wave before, and I really don't want that either.

    And I wonder if it will all fall out after the Taxol is over. I have to shave my legs again, and I like it. Feels normal
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Mary Lou, SO EXCITING!!! I have fuzz on my head and it looks WHITE. I am a bit concerned about that....I have hair growing in my underarms, and "down there." I feel like I have hair growing on my legs, but I can't see any?!?! The stuff on my underarms is SO light and baby fine, NOTHING like it was pre-chemo. I am pretty excited about that. I never could get a good shave there!

    Another reminder about the Pink Ribbon Exchange! I have a package ready to go with stuff! Email me directly if interested...
    thebandteacher@yahoo.com
    Love and prayers (always!)
    Debbie
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited February 2006
    I agree, Liz, the new "new" is going to take some getting used to. I asked my onc. if I would be getting the regular scans (PET, bone, etc.) I hear everyone talk about and she said no. I looked her right in the eyes and said, is it because if the bc recurs elsewhere there's no cure? and she said we would be talking managing as opposed to curing, but that managing a recurrence of bc can absolutely allow for a good life. She also said that research has shown that regular scans do not pick up on recurrences significantly earlier than the doctor does when checking you out, but that scans do give numerous false positives. Then you get to deal with the unknown, the fears, all the stuff each one of us has been living with since the day of our diagnosis. Still, it seems once we finish chemo it's all about being vigilant and bringing symptoms to our doctor. So I guess we have to find a balance of some sort, vigilance versus hypochondriacism. I hope I can figure it out.



    So today is my birthday and I've been crying all day. This time coming down off the Decadron seems harder than ever.



    The hair: I don't even mind the bald head with whispery fuzz that much any more. I quite like not having to shave under my arms. My leg hair was already pitiful, so I gave up shaving there years ago. What I really really cannot stand is not having any pubic hair. May I please be totally crass? The absence of hair down there seems to entail a messiness I just don't like. And I don't like the look of me there either. It's like I'm not a woman or something.



    Sorry. Had to say it. Wondering if any of you are bothered by this like I am.



    Anna

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