Pink everything is everywhere....
And it's causing me a lot of anxiety. I'm swear I'm getting down right mean. I don't want anything to do with a race, a pink bucket of chicken or anything else, leave me alone.
Thank you for listening. I feel better.
Comments
-
Good for you! You're not alone.
-
It's not even freaking October yet. I was so pissed about all the pink crap on the shelves at my supermarket and I gave the poor check out girl an earfull. Not her fault, I did apologize.
-
http://www.amazon.com/Pink-Ribbon-Blues-Culture-Undermines/dp/0199740453
Here's a great book on the subject. It was published last year and quite a few of the sisters have mentioned it on these boards.
Honestly, I must be living in a vacuum, because I have an ability to avoid anything and everything that is pink. One of my few friends that knows about my diagnosis, did one of those breast cancer walks and told me afterwards about it. I said, "That's nice." Changed the subject and that was that. Whenever I go to the radiologist's office they have you sign in with one of their gigantic pink pens and then they tell you that you can keep it. I reply, "No thanks."
The DH has a very rare disease, an "orphan" illness. Sure wish there would be as much interest in "orphan" illnesses research as there is in breast cancer. ALL of these illnesses blow.
-
I've been bracing myself for pink October. This will be my third one with Stage IV and I thought I was being selfish and thoughtless because it offends me. I've seen a lot of posts on this forum and am glad to know that there are others besides me who feel the same way.
It feels as if BC is so commercialized and if you're not on the band wagon, shame on you.
Voracious - I looked up Pink Ribbon Blues on Amazon and the description and reviews fit. They're really pushing this disease, but no one's letting us know the results - who gets the money and how far ahead have we gotten - since the awareness began a few years ago.
I watch football with my SO and seeing the players in October being forced to wear pink shoes, etc., really makes me want to puke. Some of them don't wear pink and I wonder why. But it shouldn't matter, should it?
Sometimes my caller ID tells me the call is from a cancer group and I think it's an agency to help me but, no, they're asking me to donate to breast cancer. I ask "Are you going to send me a donation to help with my medical bills?" Then, they hang up.
I won't wear pink either. Too bad, I look good in it - well, as good as I'm going to look.
Thanks for the topic, Thatgirl. I hope it gains momentum so we can all add to and read our vents through October.
-
I also object to the pinkization of everything around us and also have lots of questions about where the money goes. I was diagnosed last year on 9/27 so I was still in that dazed and terrified stage when Pinktober happened 3 days later. I could not escape breast cancer anywhere - the grocery store, the television. It was relentless. I am not sure how I will react this year - I am still in treatment but certainly calmer than I was a year ago at this time.
-
Thatgirl ~ I've always thought the pink bucket o'chicken, etc was pretty ridiculous ~ and that was before I had BC!
I'm similiar to you SpecialK in that I was diagnosed October 6th of last year. I totally remember getting asked to donate at the grocery store, etc. It was surreal... I felt like I was constantly being reminded. There was absolutely no escaping it.
There was one situation where a clothing store clerk asked if I wanted their credit card... I said no.. but she kept going and said this was a "special card" ~ because a % of sales went to BC. I said something like, "well that's a coincidence because I just got diagnosed with breast cancer". Her mouth dropped and she stumbled through completing the purchase and mumbled something like.. "good luck". I felt kinda bad for her...but thought she'd have a great story to tell her co-workers.
It will be interesting to see how it feels this year.
-
Wow! I thought I was the only one who hated the never-ending parade of pink!!! It annoyed me before diagnosis, but now I really REALLY can't stand it. I'm in the middle of finding out the whole extent of my diagnosis....after being diagnosed on 8/10/11 with DCIS on the left side, a pre-surgery MRI showed 3 bad areas on the right that didn't show up on x-ray. Two more biopsies last week, results tomorrow, and if I'm handed ANOTHER cutsie pink folder with the new pathology report of doom in it I think it's gonna be hard to hold back the sarcasm and bite my tongue. OK, I feel better now! A good acid-tongued rant almost always makes me feel better.
-
Add me to the list of annoyed with Pinktober. I was diagnosed in early November, when Safeway is STILL asking for donations for bc each time you are in the store. I did tell the cashier...uh I was just diagnosed last week, so ...yeah...
I have been participating in The Race for the Cure long before I was ever diagnosed, and usually do participate (had to skip this year). I do tell the cashiers that having had breast cancer, I feel like I have donated plenty,,,,tissue, time money, etc. In 2009 I was able to tell them that I was currently having radiation treatment for bc - sometimes it just feels good to shock people. I don't really know why, but in a way it is empowering.
I will be 3 years out Nov. 8th, so it's possible that I will feel differently. I will say that I do like to tell random people like this that I have had breast cancer because I am so healthy and 47. Often they say "Oh, does it run in your family...." and i can say, no it does not! No cancer in my family history! Plenty of heart attacks but no cancer". The general public truly is misinformed in my opinion.
-
Has everyone seen this Colbert clip? He makes fun of KFC and their pink bucket.
Classic!
-
I loathe the pink movement generally. I am lucky to live in a big city where everything gets a bit lost in the crowd, so I am able to avoid the pink movement quite easily. I feel so bad for some sisters who have to put up with small town papers that publish their pages in pink (!!!!kitsch, anyone????) for the occasion. Also get to avoid the pink guns and cars. Occasionally I will bump into a walk, but I can handle it as long as it is a rare occasion and I cross the street. :-)
Susan - I remember your description not long ago on a stage IV thread of a Komen walk and how people were divided up, and what some of the signs said. Sickening... I would have felt like a head of cattle.
-
Hey Ladies,
Pleasssse don't get upset at my post. I am just confused by the feelings you all are posting. I am not saying your wrong to have these feelings, I am just unsure what part it is you don't like? I've always been under the belief that it is donations of these types that have gotten research to the place it is now. The money people donate to help find more and more ways to cure/diagnose/treat/test etc has helped. I may be misinformed on that though. That is just how things are portrayed. I've always been one to make donations. Not large amounts just what I can when I am asked. I think donations are a very integral part of making progress in all areas. Not just in health. In education, poverty, health, animals, science etc.
I would love to hear (read) your perspective. I've never taken one minute to think about how these "pink" things might make someone with Breast Cancer feel. So my only point in asking is to gain knowledge so I can, in future, be more considerate to the feelings of those around me who may not regard the "pink" EVERYTHING as a sign of compassion and caring.
I remember once, after the Oklahoma bombing, people printed T-Shirts of the little child being carried in the Firefighters arms. I watched a interview with Oprah one day and the mother of the child was on that show. She said she understood that people had made and purchased these shirts as a way to donate. However, she made a comment that made me cry. "People didn't stop to take the time to think about the fact that everywhere I looked, my family looked, we seen our lifeless child over and over again in the arms of that firefighter. We had to endure endless images of our deceased child" I am guessing your feelings are much the same as hers?
I have always been a "pink" purchaser. I never in a million years guessed it was offensive to people. Ignorance is a tough one. Sometimes "we" just don't realize. I can't speak for anyone else, but for myself, I would rather someone point this out to me then to let me continue offending them. So if you ever question that, my best bet would be that people would rather you share your feelings on it, so they know too for future reference. I'm glad I came across this thread. You've all taught me something new yet again today!
Hugs and thinking of you all!
Kim
-
1Athena1 ~ Yeah... I really did feel like a head of cattle behind my "years of survivership classification".
Doesn't it seem like the ones pushing the pink crap & Komen races never have/had BC? It always seems to be the relatives, loved ones, friends, etc. Recently I was in a class with a woman who I noticed wore a "Save the TaTa's" fundraiser type of shirt a couple times. I just had to ask her what her connection was with the shirt. I was thinking there was no way someone with BC would wear that! I was right... however, her answer still surprised me. She said, "Oh, I just saw the shirt and thought it was cute." I was too taken aback to say anything. But I wish I would have.
-
For the first time last year I crossed paths with Pink October. While driving, traffic was stopped to let the breast cancer walk teams cross the road. There they were in their pink shirts, pink wigs, pink BOAS, pink hats, etc, cheering, clapping, singing, dancing. I stared in disbelief. I felt absolutely no connection to what I saw. Cancer isn't pretty or fun. Let's not fool the public.
After Pinktober, it's Movember. Every month some dreaded disease. I need a break!
-
Kimmer ~ I noticed I started feeling more annoyed with the "pink" the more I researched about BC. I think what annoys me the most is how "light" is made of it. I heart boobies. Save the TaTas. When it's about cancer...it's serious.. it still kills people. However (comma) I also can see the benefit of having so much more "awareness"... .. it's now talked about openly instead of something to be embarrassed about (like it was 50 years ago). But I am also more aware that not everyone has the same feelings/reactions when we are diagnosed.
Thank you for sharing that story about the parents of the Oklahoma bombing victim. That perspective hadn't occured to me either. How heartbreaking.
-
I had never really thought much about the "pinkization" issue before I was diagnosed, but coincidentally (or at least I hope so) about a week after my biopsy, a solicitation card for the Komen foundation arrived in the mail. I had never received one it before, and I was distressed and annoyed at the same time. A couple of weeks ago, I received a package in the mail from my cousin - it was a pink ribbon campaign t-shirt with all sorts of "hope/strength/courage" phrases on it. While I appreciate the sentiment, a head scarf would have been much more useful....
-
Yes, I'm glad it isn't 60 years ago. My grandmother got diagnosed with breast cancer in the early 1950s (before I was born). She had bilateral (I assume radical) mastectomies (there was no chemotherapy at the time, and I doubt if she had radiation.) I was told as a child that I was NEVER to say the words 'breast' or 'cancer' to her. At that time, most breast cancer patients died of their breast cancer. Up until my diagnosis of LCIS, I thought that the only women who got breast cancer were people who ignored their lumps.
But I hate the 'pinkization'. Briefly, long ago and far away, I was a reseach tech. I got minimum wage. My PhD boss got paid about $200 a month more than I did. Best to fund research directly, so you know where its going.
-
I guess I can join the crew. I don't like to re-live what I went through. I don't ignore the fact that I had BC I just don't want the constant reminder either, and get this I use to walk in the BC walk all the time. Haven't been to one since my Dx.
-
This will be my first pinktober as a survivor. I remember last year my son's soccer team wore special pink jerseys in honor of BC awareness - this was literally weeks before I was diagnosed. There was another boy on the team whose mother had just passed from BC and I remember thinking how hard it must be for him to be surrounded by all of the "awareness". I have to say that I do feel the pink tends to simplify the BC ordeal for people who haven't lived through it.
-
sundermom hit the nail on the head, i think: the pinkwashing simplifies it. if i hear the phrase "early detection" one more fucking time!!
my friends now know the deal, and i think folks outside of Cancerland mean well but truly don't get it. how many women did the mammograms, did the self exams, and still wound up with (more) advanced cancer? (i'm one of them).
what really pisses me off is the corporate, capitalist nature of it all. pink ribbons on cookies, fried chicken buckets, yogurt, etc. if every cent of the pinkwashing campaigns --including Walgreens' use of PINK caps on all prescriptions this month - it's a "PINK PROMISE" -- actual services for patients could be better funded.
i'm boldly decrying Pinktober on my facebook page - let's face it, facebook is a quick way to reach a crowd.
-
I would like to chime in here...
This whole pink thing hits me wrong. When my neighbor came over all decked out in pink from her BC earrings to her shirt, shorts and sneakers. She was beaming and I just wanted to cry. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to hurt her feelings.
The restaurant that seated me under the HUGE pink ribbon swaying from the ceiling. Eight of us and we just happened to be seated that way. I switched with hubby.
I know it is supposed to raise awareness but it just gives me a sick feeling.
-
Ang7 said "I know it is supposed to raise awareness but it just gives me a sick feeling."
That's because we're all aware enough.
My mom had breast cancer and a radical mastectomy 35 years ago, so I've grown up in the shadow of it all. And so I've always shunned the pink. I suppose so did she. A couple years ago, she allowed herself to be talked into doing the Strides Walk, and then when she did it the following year, I walked with her as a sign of support for HER. Personally, I still didn't feel all that comfortable about it, but whatever, it was for my mom.
This past February, a postcard came in the mail for the Avon Walk that's in October in NYC. Now I'm a runner, and walking is something runners tend to look down on; i.e. the activity that's only done when you can't run. But I figured I needed to grow the f*** up already about it. I'm strong, my mom's still healthy and around (thank god!), so of course I can walk 39+ miles over two days. Piece of cake.
I kept the postcard with the intent to sign up. I would go to an intro meeting in March sometime, sign up there. A couple weeks later I was diagnosed with DCIS. I went to the intro meeting barely 4 days after my initial diagnosis. I mean, I planned on doing it anyway, right?
I still don't like pink. But I'm doing the Walk... even though I'd still rather be running.
-
I appreciate the fact that so many are getting involved with ways to raise money for BC. I honestly avoid the pink ribbon thing it just reminds me of my BC.
-
I have to admit for me I feel a little differently. Not saying one way or the other is wrong because we all deal with everything about this disease differently. The awareness for us already exists to be sure. I found my lump doing my own self exam. If more women would realize the importance of self exams and mammograms every year than maybe less women would die every year from BC. i admit in the past I was never faithful in doing my exams. I lost some weight and felt this lump and knew in my heart right away that it was gonna b bad. We are in such a position to make other "young" women especially aware of their own breasts and that 1 in 8 women will be diagnosed in her life with this aweful disease. I know more now in the less than 2 months since my diagnosis--I had no idea there were different types! Knowing what to look for and feel for seems so important in improving early detection that I am myself a pink ribbon warrior.
Maggie
-
Hi Ladies... I have to say I see both sides as a survivior now the "pink" does have a new meaning for me and I am not totally oppossed to it. I own several "pink" things myself and I do wear them and honestly I wear them proudly as it is hard work going through what we have been through. On the other hand I do agree completly that there is an marketing issue with it all and where do all he funds go and many companys do make lots of money off if it for themselves and YES It does seem to simply the disease. I agree completly it is not a pretty fluffy disease at all and I do believe that all gets lost. I also think there are some shirts and signs out there that I also take offense to. Susan you brought up a save The Ta Ta SHIRT.. COULDNT AGREE MORE. My best friend no less bought me one of those and a car magnet.. I could of just thrown up or well wanted to smack her at the time!. I of course never wore it and would not put the magnet on my car... and she refers to my masectomy as a boob job! So yes all this pink does simplyfy it too much.
However you choose to look at it there is no wrong way.
KIM.. I think you must be a very good friend because you care enough to find out what everyone is thinking and how they feel about it. Thank you!
Have a great day ladies
-
Chiming in here with my disdain for pink as well. One of the random thoughts that went through my head after my diagnosis (early days, mind you) was "I don't even LIKE pink". LOL. People mean well, I remind myself of that every flippin' day. But it still doesn't totally suppress the urge I have to smack people once in a while. No, I don't smack them....just do it in my head. Maybe I'm having more mood swings than I realize.
-
Hi Girls,
I also can't stand Pinktober, although I DO support BC causes, but directly. I went to Target yesterday and in the $1 Zone had little bags that said, "Fight like a girl!" At first I said, "how cute," because I myself like that saying. However, is the $1 I spend REALLY going to help fund BC research or fund mammos for uninsured women? How? And how are those pink flip flops going to help me?
Here is something I wrote about it on my blog. And this was BEFORE my BMX (although it was planned...)
http://cancerchmancerpoopoopoo.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/the-commercialization-of-breast-cancer/
Feel free to look around there, too. I appreciate feedback on my writing and hope it helps someone with BC who is scared to smile just a bit.
Now I have to plan a marketing campaign for my DH's pizza shop for Pinktober. Here is my way I can deal with it--on ONE DAY, we will give a certain amount to a BC organization of our choosing. Since it is a kosher pizza place and most of the clientele is Jewish, we will donate the money to Sharsheret, a support organization specifically for the needs of Jewish women (we seem to get BC in much higher proportions than the rest of the population). Now, why is this OK and the flip flops not? Because we are revealing HOW MUCH of the purchase price is going to the charity and we are naming the charity. Buying a 'fight like a girl' gift bag at Target doesn't tell me a d@mn thing about where the money goes, nor does it indicate how much of the dollar is going to 'fund research.' And what KIND of research?
OK, I can go on, but you all get the idea or you wouldn't be here:)
-
I'm not all that offended by the pinktober stuff but I may feel differently as I am farther along in my journey. I like the fact that it raises awareness but I do dislike the feeling that companies are just capitalizing on the fact that BC tugs at the heart strings of everyone who has a friend or relative who has been diagnosed (and who hasn't?).
I did the Walk for the Cure prior to my diagnosis. In fact, I chose my screen name because this year I qualifed for the dreaded pink shirt. This year my whole family did the Walk in my honor and I think the big group hug atmosphere of women in pink shirts surviving breast cancer was very reassuring for them to see.
I know that people who give me pink stuff are just trying to figure out what they can do to cheer me up. I take it for the sentiment that they are trying to convey, however clumsy their attempts.
-
Hi Ladies,
I did not read eveyone's post I had to chime in something that totally offended me as a BC survivor.. I could also post it on the "Stupid things people have said to you" however, WHAT this women was doing that had me thinking WTF. I did the Run for the Cure in London, ON. I was on a team with another BC survivor I met here on this website.... Anyways,In the 5 km walk there are lots of people dressed in Pink and have pink accessories on. The survivors wear PINK shirts and the supporters wear white. It was very cool on our walk day and I look over at a women who is SMOKING during the walk a cigerette in front of me and closeby a "survivor" mom and her young child. I was so pissed I wanted to say to her, Do you know how stupid and offensive you are by smoking a cigerette at a walk against CANCER!!!!! Clearly, she is there for the social aspect of the walk and not b/c she actually cares about the fact that I am inhaling her 2nd hand smoke as are anyone else near them. Not to mention young children were closeby her too. Sorry for the rant but that is why I am sick of the whole BC pink thing... Where is the money truly going and so many people don't really care about the cause more about the "outing" with their friends. HELLLOOOO this is a real disease that we carry with us forever. Sometimes, I think why give us the t-shirts to wear or pink equipment for the football players to wear. The money wasted on that could have gone to the cause. All the pink does is say oh ya it is Breast Cancer month. There are cheaper ways to do that. Have the networks give free air time for a respected football player to go on TV and gives the facts about BC. Really, Do men watching football think anything more about the pink eqipment then it looks ridiculous on the players. I would love to know how many of them went and booked a mammo afterwards or suggested their wives do it...... Alot of the whole pink campain in Oct in my opinion is a "marketing scam"..... Again sorry for the rant. Just needed to unload with you all. Take care my BC sisters.
Diagnosis: Aug, 2009, IDC, 7-8cm, 0/15 nodes, Grade 3, ER+/PR+ HER+
-
I'm not completely against pink campaigns if they are successful in raising money for breast cancer research, and it's unavoidable that some people will find a public event "fun" rather than serious. If they donate money to the cause, they have helped us even if we find their attitudes too trivial.
What I do object to is some of the slogans. Anything to do with saving the tatas or titties is offensive to women, I think. If the breast can be saved it should be, but saving lives is the real issue, not saving breasts. These slogans trivialize a life-threatening disease and imply that a woman's real value is in her boobs.
-
Booboo, that is an interesting perspective! I think it is a source of power to reclaim the words that the 'other' uses against us...kind of like how "queer" was reclaimed by some gay-rights groups. You are right, it is a light way of handling a heavy disease, but think about how long the word 'cancer' wasn't uttered in polite company. In some segments of my community it still isn't uttered, leaving those who are stricken with cancer feeling alone.
Personally, I would wear a "Save the Ta Tas" shirt before I would wear a pink ribbon, but that's just me.
Opinions are like tushies, we all have them!
Categories
- All Categories
- 679 Advocacy and Fund-Raising
- 289 Advocacy
- 68 I've Donated to Breastcancer.org in honor of....
- Test
- 322 Walks, Runs and Fundraising Events for Breastcancer.org
- 5.6K Community Connections
- 282 Middle Age 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 53 Australians and New Zealanders Affected by Breast Cancer
- 208 Black Women or Men With Breast Cancer
- 684 Canadians Affected by Breast Cancer
- 1.5K Caring for Someone with Breast cancer
- 455 Caring for Someone with Stage IV or Mets
- 260 High Risk of Recurrence or Second Breast Cancer
- 22 International, Non-English Speakers With Breast Cancer
- 16 Latinas/Hispanics With Breast Cancer
- 189 LGBTQA+ With Breast Cancer
- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 177 Singles With Breast Cancer
- 869 Young With Breast Cancer
- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
- 313 Stage II Breast Cancer
- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
- 132 All things COVID-19 or coronavirus
- 87 BCO Free-Cycle: Give or Trade Items Related to Breast Cancer
- 5.9K Clinical Trials, Research News, Podcasts, and Study Results
- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
- Family Issues for Those Who Have Breast Cancer
- 26 Furry friends
- 1.8K Humor and Games
- 1.6K Mental Health: Because Cancer Doesn't Just Affect Your Breasts
- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
- 704 Recommend Your Resources
- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
- 874 Working on Your Fitness
- 4.5K Moving On & Finding Inspiration After Breast Cancer
- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Life After Breast Cancer
- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
- 2.3K High Risk for Breast Cancer
- 18K Not Diagnosed But Worried
- 7.4K Waiting for Test Results
- 603 Site News and Announcements
- 560 Comments, Suggestions, Feature Requests
- 39 Mod Announcements, Breastcancer.org News, Blog Entries, Podcasts
- 4 Survey, Interview and Participant Requests: Need your Help!
- 61.9K Tests, Treatments & Side Effects
- 586 Alternative Medicine
- 255 Bone Health and Bone Loss
- 11.4K Breast Reconstruction
- 7.9K Chemotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 2.7K Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment
- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
- 7.8K Hormonal Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 7.4K Just Diagnosed
- 1.4K Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy
- 5.2K Lymphedema
- 3.6K Managing Side Effects of Breast Cancer and Its Treatment
- 591 Pain
- 3.9K Radiation Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 8.4K Surgery - Before, During, and After
- 109 Welcome to Breastcancer.org
- 98 Acknowledging and honoring our Community
- 11 Info & Resources for New Patients & Members From the Team