Is There A September 2011 Chemo Group?

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  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2011

    Ashley:  My onc said the same thing that FieryRed's did.  Didn't us A much because of the effects on the heart.  I am in Arkansas and my onc is supposed to be one of the best here.

    FieryRed:  I am bringing my oldest daughter (I am single).  She is insisting that she goes the first time and spends the night with me.  Oh, okay.  If it will make her feel better!  The store where I work part time is fixing me a goodie bag with all kinds of snacks (crackers, nuts, chocolate, etc.) that I like.  My daughter bought me a big cup with a German Shepherd on it and I am going to fill it with ice to chew on.  Planning on drinking lots of water the day before and the day of.  Still trying to get me list together that I may need to have on hand.

    I think the biggest things I want to get will be bio-tene, immodium, ex-lax, flushable wipes.  What else am I forgetting? FieryRed what supplements do you suggest?

    Other than getting my chemo bag together, I am ready to begin. My surgerical nurse suggested that I get a subscription for some numbing cream to put on my port site before I leave for chemo but I can't remember what it was. I will definitely ask for numbing stuff when I get to chemo and then the subscription for the next time.

    I don't mind telling you that I am scared. Scared of the SE, scared I won't be able to work, scared that in spite of all I am doing, that it will return. But I have to remind myself that I can't worry about that. One day at a time and appreciate each and every day.

    Hope you all have a wonderful holiday weekend.

    Hugs to all of us!

  • sdw4158
    sdw4158 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2011

    I am to begin my chemo in Sept 8th but I am not so sure.  It now appears that I am having a reaction (diarrhea) to the Clindamycin that I took for the MRSA that I got after surgery.  With the reaction to the Clindamycin I am more worried than ever about the S/E.  I am to have 4 TC treatements.  Has anyone had issues with Clindamycin side effects before starting chemo?

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2011

    I'm beginning my chemo on the 8th also but I have not had any reactions to any drugs during surgery or after.  Sorry I can't be of help but I'm sure the others will be able to help more.

    Wishing you the best of luck.

    Hugs!

  • susanwmcg
    susanwmcg Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2011

    Hi Sept. Girls,

    I have been reading ahead about chemo as I meet with my MO on Tuesday. My BS told me last week that I would most likely need TCx4 and Tami for five years. I am asking for the Oncotype test. Did most of you do this test? And I see most of you were diagnosed around the same time I was....my BMX was 8/22 and I still have two drains in.....ughhhh. I guess I was living in denial thinking I could put off chemo for a few months but looks like you all have similar cancer types and are starting right away.

    Thanks for letting me lurk. I will either be joining you or an Oct one,

    Susan

  • Lowrider54
    Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721
    edited September 2011

    Hi September 2011 Chemo Starters!

    Had my first treatment on September 2nd.  Abraxane and Avastin.  I took the chemo class since it was 13 years ago that I last had chemo.  It was helpful to understand the new stuff going on. 

    I had no premeds - the fluid retention I am experiencing would be the same se as the steriods so they were a no go.  Nausea is apparently not a huge se of the Abraxane but I did get the ativan should anything happen at home.  Yes, I will lose my hair.  It will begin to come out in about 10 to 14 days.  The chemo has now killed the next cycle of hair growth in the folicle so at the 10 to 14 day growth cycle, there will be no new hair once the end of the existing strand reached the surface of the scalp.  I have decided to cut it - it is quite long so I am donating to Locks of Love.  I will have a very short cut and then see how it comes out.  That will determine if I shave it or if it just all comes off, I won't have to. 

    There is more I would like to share but it is nap time...hugs to all....LowRider

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2011

    Susan, I am having the onco type test done.  Very expensive and my insurance may not pay, but still, I want to know.  Will not change the course of my treatment I don't think.  TC X 6, then radiation 6 weeks x 5 days per week.  Radiation to me is going to be the hardest because it is every day whereas my chemo is every 3 weeks.  I am getting the neulasta shot the day after also.  Will also go on Tami for 5 years.  My treatment center is about 35-40 miles away from home, so I will be spending a lot of money in gas!

    Hugs!

  • Suz39
    Suz39 Member Posts: 125
    edited September 2011

    Hi All,

    Day 3 for me.  Feeling a little less energetic, which I am attributing to the diminishing dose of my steroids starting today, as well as not the greatest sleep last night.  Big thunder storms.  I should be getting my neupogen shot today, so am gearing up for boney pain, although I have no idea what to expect.  I do already have some minor pain in my arm, but nothing stopping me from doing stuff, other than my head-space.

    I had my oncotype test done, and had a score of 10.  I was supposed to start chemo in July, but my onc postponed it so that we could do some more research.  Since I had a grade 3 tumor, (and my young age) she thought it was still prudent to do the chemo anyway.  So, here I am.  She did change my original FECx3 + Tx3 to TCx4.  This was to reduce the heart damage issue with the E, which I think is the same as the A in AC.

    Hugs to everybody! 

  • bluejay58
    bluejay58 Member Posts: 62
    edited September 2011
    Susan, I had the Oncotype test  -- my surgeon wanted it done, and my insurance would pay for it, so ... it was done.  My score was 25, which both my surgeon and my MO said was right in the middle as far as recommended treatments were concerned.  MO said I could do just radiation and then tamoxifen for five years, but characterized the chemo as a measure of extra insurance I could take to prevent a recurrence.  So here I am.  I'm not having a lot of fun right now, but I never want to go through this again, so I'll take every option I can to not have to.  Obviously it's not a 100% guarantee, but it does tilt the odds a bit more in my favor.  :)
  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2011

    That's exactly how I feel Susan.  I don't have my score back yet, but I did have 2 nodes with cancer and I want all the insurance I can get.  I don't ever want to go through this again.  I still don't know if my insurance will pay for it or not, but the place that does the test said that they have a program for folks that their insurance doesn't pay for it and I might qualify for some help.  That would be great!  I am so overwhelmed with bills right now that I don't know where to turn sometimes.  I will get it all paid, but it will take some time.  I also have a list of places that might be able to financially help me with co-pays and drug bills and such.  I have not contacted them yet, but I probably need to do so.

    Hugs!

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2011

    Hi Ladies, For what it's worth... I had the Oncotype dx and although the insurance was a little tricky, the people at Genomic Health were fabulous.  They told me in my situation (I have Aetna PPO) they would pay for the test if Aetna denied it.  I was also told that they thought Aetna would initially deny the claim, but that I shouldn't concern myself with any of that, because they would appeal and handle the whole thing.

    I even believe when the results were sitting at Genomic Health and my MO at first wasn't able to get the results released, they helped by telling me who had to call whom, etc.  The results ended up being released and all was fine... except of course for me being a 22, but that's another story.

  • Dana25
    Dana25 Member Posts: 36
    edited September 2011

    Hi Everyone,

    Wanted to stop by and join this thread. I restart ACx4 tomorrow. Not looking forward to losing my hair again and the SE's but I think its worth it! Everyone on the boards have been so helpful!!



    Kimberly1- I have a port and so glad I did it! I would definitely have someone drive you home. I too hate imposing on people but I have learned they want to be there for you and that at times, you will need them.

  • susanwmcg
    susanwmcg Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2011

    Thanks everyone for the responses. Super anxious for the MO visit tomorrow. My final path report contradicted itself....one place it said Grade 2 and another Grade 3. I think that this should be a factor in treatment so hopefully they got it figured out. Still may get a second opinion since I keep hearing from survivors that our other hospital is just as good. I am also dragging my feet. Selfishly I wanted to be able to travel to our oldest daughters last Parent Wknd the 22nd of Sept. Just feeling down today about all the stuff I have missed. But also know that I have to kick the crap out of this cancer to have 40 more years not to miss!

    Thanks for listening,

    Susan

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2011

    susanwmcg, I looked at one of your other posts and I will tell you that I started nothing right away.  My dx was a month before you and I waited an extra month for my surgery so that I had an absolute understanding of what was coming.  I also wanted to enjoy a family vacation before the surgery.  Looking at your stats (and I don't know how old you are), it looks like you have time to make an informed decision.

    Larger tumors, higher stages, higher grades, more nodes, Her2+... all that stuff is more aggressive and perhaps that is why you may see some ladies acting more quickly.  I would never consider myself dragging my feet :-).  I am learning all I need to so I don't have chemo, breast or any type of remorse.  My BS said that many women get treated with chemo, but many also didn't need to.  That is what the Oncotype can help with.  I've been researching and doing EVERYTHING to keep from chemo.  Unfortunately, I haven't had too much good news.  Had my doctor taken out only 1 node (my SN was negative), I wouldn't even be learning about chemo.  My BS felt the need to take 6 and so here I am :-(.

    You'll make the right choice for you and I do believe you have time.  Heck, if I do end up on the chemo train, it may even start up in October.  Who knows?

  • Jerseylicious
    Jerseylicious Member Posts: 44
    edited September 2011

    Hi all! I can't believe how many of us there are now! Thanks to all of you who post about your treatments and the days after...they are doing a lot to calm me down.



    Cooka---You and I will start our chemo the same day..Sept 16th. I also had a staph infection after my lumpectomy...at my node biopsy site. So now I am double-scared about getting the port on Sept 13th. Please let me know how u make out.



    Shawna77---Please give wig details! I am still having so much trouble finding one!



    Also, I'm second guessing my decision to work thru the chemo. I go back and forth almost daily. I teach Kindergarten and I am on my feet for at least 7 hours per day...plus, I need boundless energy to keep them entertained and learning. I'm not sure how that will work with chemo. But on the other hand, this is the beginning of the school year and I feel like I have to be there to establish the routines and rules and get things off to a good start. I kind of told my principal that I was going to play it by ear but now I wish that I had asked if I could start chemo a month or two later. It honestly never occured to me and the doctors never mentioned it. Could it be because my onco score was a 28?



    A question for the ladies who've started their chemo...do the steroids bother any of you at all? I remember my son taking them before and I know his face got puffy and he ate like there was no tomoro! I would realllllly hate to be the only person in the world who GAINED weight from chemo! Also, I'm getting my port surgery on Sept 13th, next tuesday...do you think I can work the next day? Or is that too ambitious?????



  • Shawna77
    Shawna77 Member Posts: 28
    edited November 2011

    Hi Ladies! Sad to see so many new people have joined...but very thankful for all the info you're sharing.  It makes things a little less scary. 

    As far as wig advice...my wig has no brand name on it.  The shop I went to has a website if you want to check it out.  It's in Canada, so it probably won't be much use to you...but you can see the type I got anyway. thewigboutique.com

    Okay, back to the wig:  It's a monofilament, which means the hairs are hand knotted & look more realistic.  It's synthetic, because I figure if I don't have any hair I shouldn't have to spend time styling it.  I want to look great in 10 seconds or less lol.  I bought a long one, but shorter ones tend to last longer.  The ladies at the shop told me it'll probably only last 4-6 months.  I'm okay with that, but wigs do tend to be expensive.  I think it is absolutely imperative that you go to a "wig shop".  You have to try them on.  I picked 5 different styles from the website, and 4 of them looked absolutely ridiculous on me.  Oh, and take an honest friend if you can.  Mine was VERY honest lol.  She did make me try on some hideous wigs too, just for her own personal amusement.  I figured it was the least I could do since we drove two hours to buy hair.  :)

    Good luck shopping ladies!

    cooka: Not sure if CAT scans are a regular test to do pre-chemo or not.  Like I said before, my oncologist seems to be the paranoid type.  They took 13 vials of blood from me, plus did the ECG, the bone scan & the cat scan.  I've been ultrasounded on my heart, my lymph nodes....he seems to like ordering tests lol.  As long as he stops scaring the heck out of me before we have all the facts, I'll do whatever he wants.   

    I love your idea of putting decisions before the court!  Good luck with your port placement.  I hope it's relatively painless & you have no complications with infection this time. 

  • susanwmcg
    susanwmcg Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2011

    Thanks, Rockym. I am 50 and pre-menopausal. I keep reading that chemo works better with higher grade tumors. So many questions for my MO tomorrow! Looks like you are lower grade than me but are node positive. Good luck with your research.

    Susan

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2011

    Hey Ladies.  Hope you are all doing well tonight and had a wonderful Labor Day.

    Jersey, as far as wigs go, the American Cancer Society have some that are free.  I have no idea what they look like, but several ladies that I know went there and got theirs.  Also, my nurse navigator told me that the Breast Center where I go has free wigs to ladies going through chemo.  You may have some luck looking in those places.  I got a brochure from the American Cancer Society and they had some pretty nice wigs in there for sale at what I thought was a really good price.  One I looked at and like was about $44.00.  They also had the wraps and the wig caps that you wear under the wig to keep it in place.  Just a thought.  I've also wondered about the steriods.  I don't want to gain any weight.  I have lost about 20 pounds and could still stand to lose about 10-15 more.  So that part really bothers me.  I think you should play your teaching duties by ear too.  That's what I'm going to do.  I am not a teacher, but I do work for a school as support staff.  I am the transportation coordinator for the district.  I am teaching a school bus safety class to 1st graders tomorrow afternoon.  I always have such a good time with the little ones.  My assistant will do the kindergartners on Thursday since I will be in chemo.  I hate missing too because I believe (at least on the buses) that I need to be there to provide consistancy.  I believe consistancy is good for the kids.

    Kimberly, I also have a port.  The port went in on a Wednesday morning.  I did not work my part-time job that night, but I did return to my office the next day.  They refused to let me drive my bus until Friday.  I then returned to my part-time job on Saturday.   All in all it has not been bad.  I just had to remember not to reach for things and not to lift anything.  Driving the bus was a little more difficult than I thought.  All of ours are automatics, but it was still difficult.  I am fine now and you would never know it is there.  I will be using it for the first time Thursday morning.  Wish me luck.

    Susan, that's what I've read too.  My grade is 1 but I did have 2 of 4 nodes with cancer.  The biggest one was 8mm.  Is that really big?  Really surprised my surgeon and me too.  I am assuming that's why I am headed down the chemo road.  My tumor was 2.9cm which was also bigger than what showed on mammo and US.

    I'm getting anxious too as the time approaches.  I wish everyone well this week with your surgeries, port placements, and chemos.

    Hugs.

  • ovbru
    ovbru Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2011

    Started chemo (TCx4) on Sep.1, followed by neulasta shot. Thank god for Labor Day weekend! SE are mostly extreme fatigue, bone pain from from neulasta, slow speech. Wasn't able to go to the office today because of the fatigue. No visible SE from steroids, some upset stomac, but nothing much, even no nausea. 4th day was the worst, hoping to feel better from there. For those working with children, I don't think I would be able to do that in the current condition.  Hope it helps.

    Diagnosis: mucinous IDC, 5cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-, Oncotype DX 19 

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited September 2011

    Hi Jersey,

    Wow we have a lot in common...not much of it fun stuff though, hunh? :)  I get my port in on the 13th also, will pray that we both remain staph free this go around. Sorry to hear you had to ride the infection roller coaster too, not a good time. One fun thing in common: all my family is from the Jersey shore (Sea Girt, Manasquan). I take it you are from Jersey too?   

  • shelley2011
    shelley2011 Member Posts: 199
    edited September 2011

    Hi, all!  Checking back in.  I am feeling much better since doc saw me on Friday.  Today is day 11 and I still have my hair!  (TCx4).  I have been at work all day, but am tired now with just 45 minutes to go so I will wait it out.  Otherwise, the only lasting SE I am experiencing is the lack of taste buds.  Lucky for me the one thing that does taste good is chocolate so I am enjoying an Ensure milkshake every night as a treat.  For the record, I had 1 node removed, came back micro mets.  Had oncotype done, score was 18.  Data showed absolutely no improvement in recurrence likelihood with chemo but we are chasing the small chance there is a wild cancer cell in my system looking for a new home.  My tumor was .6cm so it was a shock to BS and MO to see it in lymph node so I am truly a case of better safe than sorry.

    Good luck to everyone beginning today and the rest of this week!  Its nice to have company on this journey!

  • Kristae
    Kristae Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2011

    Hi Everyone,

       My sister will be starting Chemo on Monday, Sept.12th.   She will not be posting on this site but if you don't mind I wanted to join to follow everyone's treatment.  I will be with my sister replacing her cold caps as she goes through her chemo.  I'm in Huntsville AL, but she is being treated in Knoxville, TN.

       Good luck to everyone! :)

      

  • Kristae
    Kristae Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2011

    Susan,

      You should demand the Onco test.  With your diagnosis, you may not even need chemo if you were to get a low score!  Most insurances will pay for the test.  Good luck!

  • bluejay58
    bluejay58 Member Posts: 62
    edited September 2011

    Hello all! 

    Had my first chemo session this morning, and was so relieved at what an anticlimax it was.  I took my first Emend capsule right after the labwork came back, the chemo tech started a bag of saline, then a steroid for nausea prevention, then the taxotere and last but not least the cytoxan.  If he hadn't been explaining the process the whole way I would never have known anything was different from that first bag of saline.  The nurses were so nice, the chemo room is long with a row of windows on one wall so there's a lot of natural light, I chomped on a cup of ice and read Rodney Crowell's memoir Chinaberry Sidewalks.  

    Came home, husband is about to go back out and pick up my scrips for  phenergan and Zofran.  Had a light lunch and am drinking lots of water.  Mouth feels fine, no weird tastes yet.  Very tired but I think it's mostly due to not getting a lot of sleep last night because I was so anxious about today.  :)

    One down, three to go.

     Oops, forgot to mention I will also be taking Decadron.

  • Kimberly1961
    Kimberly1961 Member Posts: 407
    edited September 2011

    Bluejay - Glad it went well.  I have stupid question.  Did they have ice there or did you bring your own?

  • bluejay58
    bluejay58 Member Posts: 62
    edited September 2011

    Not a stupid question at all, Kim.  :D

    My treatment center (one of the Texas Oncology Centers north of Dallas) had an ice machine making fairly fine-grained granules.  It wasn't sno-cone ice, but it wasn't ginormous cubes either.  They also had coffee makers, and maybe tea bags?  I didn't look closely enough.  There was also a separate conference-type room with vending machines for snacks and soft drinks.

    Some folks did bring their own cups, because all the center had were small styrofoam cups.  

    Hope this helped! Have you had a "chemo class"?  If your center offers them (mine did), you get to see the chemo room and all its amenities.  ;)

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited September 2011

    Ovbru - You mentioned slow speech. Is it slurred or just slow making the words.  I know that's a dumb question, but just kinda wanted to know.

    Shelly I wondered about the ensure.  I thought about investing in a few just incase, you know?

    Bluejay I am so happy for you!  I hope my treatment Thursday goes as smoothly.  My daughter and I toured the chemo room at my first onco visit.  I was pretty impressed with the windows and it just seemed to run so smooth.  I don't know if they have ice at my site or not.  Will be bringing some just in case.

    Here's to all of us. We are troopers and survivors! We can do this ladies!!!

    Hugs!

  • Suz39
    Suz39 Member Posts: 125
    edited September 2011

    Hi Ladies,

    Day 4 for me too.  TCx4, every 3 weeks.  Today was probably my worst day so far.  I'm going to attribute that to the laxative that I took last night.  I had really bad constipation after my MX, and didn't want to go through that again.  So, no constipation, but lots of cramps, cold sweats, and some vomitting.  It lasted about 3 hours in total, and I feel better now.  I still have the general feeling of lethargy, and achy bones, but otherwise, completley managable.

    With regards to the steroids, I'm going to say that I have really enjoyed mine, my skin is definitely improved, and I enjoyed the burst of energy.  They did make it hard to sleep, but the day after my treatment, I was told that I could take my second dose earlier in the day, so that it would wear off more before bedtime.  Today was my last dose of streriods, so I'll see how I do without them.

    Good luck to everybody. 

  • susanwmcg
    susanwmcg Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2011

    Had a great appt with MO. The Oncotype was ordered and we meet with him again on the 20th. He did say if it is low, no chemo! Just Tamoxifen. So I will keep lurking until I find out. Thank you for all of your help,

    Susan

  • Shawna77
    Shawna77 Member Posts: 28
    edited November 2011

    Bluejay, I'm glad to hear it went well! How long did it take for you to get all the drugs? I've heard it could be as long as 6 hours? I'm hoping it's shorter than that! I'm going to ask my dr., but was just curious how long yours took.

  • bluejay58
    bluejay58 Member Posts: 62
    edited September 2011

    Shawna, my husband and I walked into the center at 8 a.m. because that's when I thought my oncologist appointment was.  Oops, no, it was at 8:45.  *g*  Still, I was in the chair by about 9:15.  Me and two other women were pretty much the very first customers, and we all got started right away.  I think that might be an advantage to having an early appointment --- I didn't see anyone being ignored, but patients who arrived later had to wait a bit to get set up.

     We left the center at 12:30 p.m.  The taxotere took almost exactly one hour, the cytotaxan almost exactly an hour and 15 minutes.  So in total, walk-in to walk-out, were there for approximately four hours.

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