June 2011 A/C & T Groupies Unite!
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Hi Ladies- I am from the June 2010 chemo group. For me it was bilateral mastectomy, A/C/T followed by rads. I just want you to know that things will get better. Keep being kind to yourselves, drink lots of water and rest whenever you need to. If chemo is tough or easy it will still kill those cancer cells !
My energy returned slowly, sometimes too slowly. But, I am here to tell you that I am back to my old self. Maybe even a little stronger since this summer I made a serious commitment to exercise. Cancer is a roller coaster ! Hang on and eventually the ride will end !
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Thanks, JFV! Glad things are going well for you!
Michelle
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Had my weekly labs today. My white counts have tanked again, but not enough to warrant staying home from school tomorrow.
I was given face masks to wear for the next few days, & I've been given permission to just work in my room rather than attend the inservices.
I went into school today to get my classroom ready, but didn't make it longer than an hour. I was so lightheaded that I couldn't stand up. I had to call my mother-in-law to come get me & take me for my labs. Turned out I was dehydrated. My blood pressure was 98/64. No wonder I was dizzy! I promised the doc that I would hydrate tonight if they didn't make me get IV fluids. I just didn't want to get poked again. The phlebotomist had to poke me twice for my labs today because the vein is building up so much scar tissue. I've increased the fluid intake, & I now feel better.
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Home from 4 days in the hospital, and I thought I was going back again today. I was on IV Vancomycin and Fortaz along with IV pain meds. Boy I never had pain like that before! It was head to toe aches that wouldn't stop. I'm going for labs tomorrow, then they'll decide if I need a break this week. This sucks...
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OMG, Rose {{{hugs}}} I took a week break during AC and it was disappointing at first, but then I felt so much better.
BobbieJo - can you eat watermelon, cantalope, grapes, etc? Anything juicy? Remember the discussion about being hydrated? I swear that my 96 ounces a day or so of whatever liquid I could suck dow, chew or lick has kept me mostly vertical. Popsicles, frozen juice bars, smoothies, whatever sounds good. Please, please...
Hugs to all,
Michelle
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Bobbie Jo, I found it tough to drink fluids on AC, especially around my 3rd infusion. Michelle's suggestions on liquidy solids helped me out. I am doing fine with fluids on Taxol.
My 3rd Taxol today! I'm on a steroid high so I'm taking advantage of it with Girl Scout planning (that I haven't done at all yet). I'll take it while it lasts.
Rose, I'm so sorry you are going through this. Like Michelle said, if they make you take a break, it will be for the best. I will whine about them taking me off the 2 week schedule, which has never even been a potential for me. The truth is that I just want the best care if it came down to that. Was it you that recently switched to a new MO?
JFV, thanks for the pep talk. I just want to know how loooong it will take me to have some energy to exercise and eat right (that takes mucho planning and daily prep to change the old habits in the beginning). Yeah, I know I don't get that answer. Oh! The whining again!
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watermelon helped keep me out of the hospital for iv fluids during ac. i put a little lemon on it.
prayers for all of you having such a rough time right now. I wish we all lived in the same town and I could drive over to your house and take your pups out or load your dishwasher or maybe just take the trash out. Its what I wished when I layed in bed feeling that the chemo was doing me in.
thankfully I'm having a much more manageable time on taxol. Pain is my only enemy right now. and after the soul destroying experience on ac I take the pain as a blessing. vicodin days 2-5.
last day sept sept 27
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I guess we should add watermelon to the chemo shopping list. I'm thinking it's a wonderfruit...lol! I am so glad it turned out to be such a good suggestion for many of you!
And here's a thought for Taxol or Neulasta pain...ask your doctor for a prescription for meloxicam. It's a cheap ($4 WalMart) non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, works better than Aleve, Tylenol or Advil, and it has kept me almost completely pain-fre. I was already on it for arthritis, and I swear I've had hardly a twinge of pain with Neulasta (did take the claritin too for this) or Taxol. It's got to be better than needing to take a true pain med. Vicodin sends me to la-la land!
Paula - I have been able to do the grocery shopping which has helped keep most of the meals fairly healthy. Luckily, DH has been good at taking over the cooking when I am not up to it, or takes over if I crash in the middle of it. I'm usually pretty tired after a grocery shopping excursion and I look at DH and say, "I'm finished!" But it lets me have control over the ingredients. I can't imagine how those of you without a "housemate" of any kind manage by yourself. It's got to be extremely tough and my only suggestion is to shop, look in the produce area for convenience items like pre-cut veggies. There is an amazing array of choices these days - shredded or pre-chopped carrots, pre-packaged veggies for stir-fry, pre-cut fruit, lots of pre-packaged salad mixes, cole slaw, etc. Some of it is more expensive than the unprepared options, but at least you're getting some healthy stuff in your diet. And in the meat department, you can find pre-sliced beef or chicken to add to those pre-packaged stir-fry veggies. With that, you've got a healthy meal with minimal effort.
There is a great thread called "So...What's for Dinner" under the "Moving Beyond Cancer" forum. It's a great bunch with some of us still in treatment and some who are over the hump. There are loads of great ideas for meals from grilled cheese sandwiches to more exotic delicacies. Lots of camaraderie and nothing but great support for everyone. Check it out and join in if you like what you read!
Michelle
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Just finished round 3 of AC.... And, I am on the couch exhausted and nauseated. Of course, I am looking forward to the weekend trip (twice because of the holiday - to the ER for IV fluids. I am working on keeping hydrated but I need more
So, Bobbie, I feel for you, but you may want to just get the fluids going....
I keep saying to myself - 1. More week of side effects, 1 more good week, then 2 more weeks of AC hell. Then, off to Taxol or whatever......
And tonights dinner - tomatoes and peppers from the garden, mozzerella and ricotta cheese, prosuitto........
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Done with #7 of 8! Today was my third Taxol and it went uneventfully.. needed a few extra pokes as the room was SO COLD my veins weren't cooperating. I have never understood this. If you look around and see that all the patients are bundled up in 2-3 blankets, and all your nurses are wearing sweaters, wouldn't those be good indicators to go easier on the air conditioning? (haha, I almost wrote AC, but on this forum AC means something entirely different!)
Going to an imrpov show tonight - this is good - lively enough to keep me awake and I don't need to exert any personal effort. Tomorrow is work and then I am on vacation for a week, yeah!!
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Kat - it was cold in my center yesterday, too! I actually went and grabbed a heated blanket, which is a little unusual for me. Enjoy the improv! The good side of Taxol is that you can dare to go out and not worry about feeling too nasty that you wish you could go home. We actually visited with some friends last night and didn't get home until 10:00, and I was OK...a little tired but that was the worst of it.
I feel so bad for those of you who have ended up in the ER needing IV fluids. That is exactly what I feared from chemo and I have been so, so fortunate!
Hugs,
Michelle
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I made it through my first two days of school. Now for a RESTFUL (hopefully) long weekend before the kids start on Tuesday. Then my LAST infusion on Thursday. I can see the light & boy, does it look good!
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Woohoo, BobbieJo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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YEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWW the light looks soooooooooo GOOD! Happy your bout done !Bobbie jo
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I am THRILLED to hear this news BobbieJo! I knew you could do it!
And yes.... that light is getting brighter every day. We need to have a huge virtual "PFC party!!!"
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Congrats, BobbieJo! I'm so happy for you!!!! XOXOXOXOXO
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Hello everyone,
I am new to this site, but seem to be in the same time frame, although a little reversed. I stared Taxol on June and was scheduled for 12 weekly infusions. I went in yesterday for #12 thinking thank goodness this is done, because the last few weeks have been rough (joint pain, fingernail pain, neuropathy, fatigue...etc), but my counts were too low so they are going to try again next week. And I was so close! After the taxol I will start 8 weeks of AC going every other week. Then comes surgery. I should have found this forum a lot earlier, but better late than never. It really helps to hear what others are going through. Thank you all!
Becky
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Welcome Becky! Sorry to hear about your week delay - hope the time is good to you.
I'm a neoadjuvant gal too. My surgery might be in late October (then rads) and it sounds like yours will be closer to the holidays. Long road ain't it?
I'm enjoying manageable SEs today before the bone pain and fatigue really kicks in tomorrow... Hope you all are doing well today!!
This forum needs a "hug" emoticon!
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I had my 4th and last AC infusion last Tuesday.Yeahhh! Next Taxol (12/weekly).
Michelle - Do you feel better while doing Taxol or the SE's are just different?
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Ralston - I think I feel a little better. I'm having a few aches and pains, but nothing debilitating. The heartburn was pretty bad after my first Taxol, but I started taking generic Pepcid every morning and that seems to have fixed the problem. Keep in mind that I am getting about 3 times the Taxol dose you weekly gals will get. I am fatigued, but that is something that has increased with each treatment (including the AC) and it seems to get a little better during the "week off," I have not had any nausea at all with Taxol, and I even discontinued the scopolamine patch because I didn't think I needed it. I still get Aloxi, Emend and 6 mg of Decadron before TX, along with the Benadryl and Pepcid infusions. But overall, Taxol seems easier. I hope I don't eat those words with the last two TXs!
Welcome, Becky! Glad you found us!
I wonder if AC is worse for those of you who do Tx12 first. I went into AC without having been "beaten down" by Taxol. I think I am glad I did it first. And when I think of having to go for treatment every single week for 12 weeks, and being there for what, about 4 hours?, vs. 6 hours every 2 weeks for 8 weeks...48 hours vs 24 hours just for the Taxol, I am happy with the way they (Dana Farber) approach TX.
Michelle
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Am starting 4 rounds of Taxol next week and am extremely nervous. I dont know what to expect, except that reading here on the forum that Taxol is easier than the 4 rounds of AC I just finished. What do I need to have on hand to be ready for it? I read here that L-Cartinine and B6 helps prevent the tingling in your hands and feet. Is there anything else I can watch out for and have ready? I'm back working FT and it scares me how it will affect my work or if I can only miss a day or two.
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Tldrose - I was able to work at least 3 days a week for the first 9 weeks of my Taxol. The first 2 days were good until the steroids started to wear off, then a couple of bad days and then started on the upswing again. It has only been in the last few weeks that I have really felt generally icky for most of the time. I could push myself to work if I have to, but decided I need to take time to rest and heal. I did have terrible nerve pain around week 4, but was prescribed gabepentin which has kept it under control. Now am dreading the AC, but maybe it won't be too bad. Going to try and stay positive! Good luck to you all! Thanks for the warm welcome!
Becky -
Tldrose - I added Acetyl L-Carnitine, L-Glutamine, B-6 and daily generic Pepcid to my chemical arsenal. I take Claritin the day of and for a few days after getting Neulasta. Treatment day is long - about 6 hours - and I don't think I could work that day, for sure. I don't feel safe to drive under the influence of benadryl, which you will get along with a few other pre-meds. Could I work the other days? Well, the first week would be tough and I'd want to be working from home. The second week, maybe. But keep in mind that the fatigue is cumulative...I am noticing it and I don't work and I have my DH to take over when I am "done in."
Michelle
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I am seeing my breast surgeon on Wednesday so she can see if she thinks there is any progress after three AC treatments. My plans are to tell her I want a second opinion. The University of Michigan hospital is a few hours away - the closest large center.
After researching (can't believe I waited so long) invasive lobular bc, I know that chemo often doesn't work, and a lot of other things that tell me I need a place where they see more of this type of cancer. They will also maybe have a better idea if I might also have inflammatory BC. The center where I am going is growing and for the common invasive ductal cancer would be good, but it's not large enough to have seen many of the less common cancers. I suspect from things my doctor has said that she is not that familiar with it. She is a great doctor and goes all out for her patients but I wish I had asked these questions before.
If the AC isn't working I would be going in for a taxol infusion right away – and not even taxol but an alternative because of the shortage. No time to research. I did find out that neuropathy problems are much higher for women over 65 and I am a few years past that. I already am handicapped by weakness in my legs and would end in a wheelchair for sure with any lasting neuropathy.
So what I am asking is that any of you who pray to the Christian God, will pray that my doctor will work with doctors at the U of M, that I can be seen there quickly, and that they will be given wisdom (which I also need.)
My scripture right now is "trust in the Lord with all Your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will make straight your paths." Fighting natural anxiety and trying to hold onto the scriptures.
Thank you for listening and praying at least for the next week or so. -
Thanks for the information LuvRVing and Beebop..I guess I will get ready what I can with the LCartinine, LGlutamine and B6 and take the rest as it comes. I did really well with the AC, so I may be worried for nothing. I hope that is the case. My work is very understanding about my treaments and all my doctor visits, so I will just continue on as I have been - I ususally only miss the day of treament, plus one other day - day four after treatment when the fatigue just kicks in and I'm exhausted the whole day. Thanks for all the advice and support on this forum, it has helped alot!
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3bells - {{{hugs}}} The usual alternative to Taxol is Abraxane or Taxotere. My oncologist told me that Abraxane caused more neuropathy than Taxol, and I think the same is true of Taxotere. I hope with a second opinion you can get a gentle chemo that will work for you.
Yup, day 4 fatigue. We just had a family day here at the lake and I am pretty darn pooped! I tried to not do too much, and I was mostly successful. But everyone is gone, DH just finished cleaning up the rest of the kitchen and I am not moving off this couch until I go up to put on my jammies!!! My girls are taking me to Foxwoods Casino tomorrow - all I have to do is sit and press a button. I think I can handle that!
Michelle
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3bells my prayers are with you!
I have been exhausted this last round on taxol. Its seems like the first two days after tx are ok and then I crash. ( i'm doing weekly) Tuesday will be 8 of 12. Last day Sept 27.
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Hi there everyone, just wanted to let you all know I'm reading...
tdlrose, I've been working full-time throughout chemo, with time off pretty much only for my treatment days. (I just did my 3rd of 4 DD taxols following DD AC.) Like so many things we have found ourselves having to do, it's doable. There's less "stuff" you need than with AC, in my opinion... less need for the mouthwash or bowel management and whatnot. Indeed, the fatigue seems to be the most consistent complaint among us - these last two taxols I broke down and took off some additional time from work (this week is my vacation week - I've been putting it off all summer - and in two weeks I'm taking a 3-day weekend), especially because I have surgery and rads yet to go!
3bells, I will be thinking of you and praying for the best outcome!
Michelle and beaglesgirl, sorry to hear you're both having a "bum" weekend. I'm right there with ya....today was a tougher than expected day. The bone pains started in last night so today I broke down and took one of the painkillers doc gave me... my first time taking it in the daytime... it made me very dizzy and nauseous (along with the heat/humidity today). I did get through organizing all my insurance paperwork and medical receipts today, which was a huge goal of mine during my staycation......
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Day five of AC.... Still nauseated and going in for the infusion...... I cannot wait, seriously, cannot wait until this is done.........
ANyone who is mobile and mostly symptom free - when you are having your family cookout - hoist a burger and corn on the cob for me....... I appreciate it.
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7 days after my 4th and last AC... Sore scalp, depress, light headache.... I never felt like this before, I am so glad I am done...
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