Death thoughts and triggers

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It seems more frequent lately... things I see, hear, think, remind me of death.  I get really weird about it and trip out bad.  Like I go into depression la-la land!

Little things can trigger a trip... a song, a tv commercial, ticking clocks, websites...

I don't think I'm dying.  Contrary from last year!  Last year just after my diagnosis and after reading statistics, I was convinced I was going to die from cancer.  Now, when death crosses my mind, I get all scared and freaked out... 

My last chemo was 3 months ago.  I don't have anymore planned treatments.

Anyone else have similar issue(s)?

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  • Blayze7
    Blayze7 Member Posts: 35
    edited August 2011

    Hi i feel the same way sometimes every since my diagnosis everything has been about breast cancer. My suggestion is to go see someone to talk to and if need be get some meds. I take zoloft and believe me they help me stay on the positive. I see a therapist and he is wonderful. Death thoughts are very normal but those thoughts should not taken over your life.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited August 2011

    NANNABABY,  I agree with BLAYZE, you should consider visiting a psych doctor and maybe getting some temporary medications.  I take tranquilizers for my panic disorder and it works.  And best of all, the doctor will be able to give you tips on handling those triggers of death.  A person can get pretty amped up about fears, and then next thing you know, it becomes your world, you fall into a deep dark hole and cannot get out to save your life.  Also, I think it's perfectly normal to go thru months of treatment and come out the other end pretty wiped out.  When a person is put thru the wringer, is it any wonder?  Therefore, good food, exercise, water, and especially rest is healing to the body, and makes it stronger, so when these triggers come up, you can better pass by them. 

    My dog died the day before my surgery.  I held in my feelings until they took the drains out, because I had to put everything I had in standing up to the pain I felt (I injured myself in the hospital room, pulled on the drains and surgical site).  So, once the drains were out, here comes a flood of emotion for my dog.  I have cried almost every day, and pretty soon, I would just look at one of his toys or a photograph on the TV cabinet of him, and I fell apart.  At first, I thought it was good to let the tears go.  But gee whiz, it's been almost a month since he passed, and I was still crying.  So, I made up my mind I would NOT focus on stuff that set me off.  I instead immediately distracted myself before emotion got the best of me.  After a few times of stopping the emotion, I finally stopped crying.  I don't like that feeling of misery no more.  And I think weeks of dispair is enough.  But husband and I are still on the edge, we still tear up, so we haven't gotten to the stage where we can talk about all the good times with our dog, which is when healing happens.  And it will happen eventually.

    Look, the statistics for your cancer aren't too bad, compared to some others, that's for sure.  Remind yourself of that every time you get a trigger.  Tell yourself, "I'm okay."  Set it aside for now.  It's time to let it go.  You know, the moment I knew I had cancer, I went thru all the grief and fear, I tracked down all possibilities and worked thru them.  But there was one I could not handle, and that was the death scenario.  So, what I did was, and this is similar to setting aside your feelings for now, is I asked the Good Shepherd to take that particular fear from me and keep it for a while.  And do you know that within seconds, I was over it.  Then slowly, over a long time, bits and pieces of death were given back to me, and i took it and found the good side of it and let it go.  Hang in, you've bought yourself a life, so it's time to be FREE.  GG

  • NannaBaby
    NannaBaby Member Posts: 510
    edited September 2011

    DOGEYED - I put my weiner down the same day of my last chemo!  I was celebrating my 14th and last infusion!!! My dog needed spinal surgery that was going to cost thousands!  She died in my arms :(  I still remember the fading in her eyes.  I cried for weeks!  She was my close companion throughout my treament.  And the day my treatment ends, her life ends...

    I'm seeing my psychiatrist on Tuesday. I have big gullies of extreme ups and downs!  Super happy in the morning, and then down at night...

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited September 2011

    NANNABABY, I'm glad you have a doc!  I do too.  I also feel the worst at night, but I know it will be that way, so I just suffer thru, hoping there's something good on TV.  When I see my doc next week, I'm going to ask her if I should take another pill around noon, and see if that helps the evening thing.  Usually I take my Zoloft in the morning.

    Wow, you went thru with your dog what I did.  I cannot believe the timing of some things.  Husband even referred to it that way, "He stuck around until your chemo was over."  My surgery followed chemo by three weeks. 

    Well, hope you can get past this death trigger situation.  Things like that can really wreck your day.  GG 

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited September 2011

    yes. the thoughts of death. totally get it.

  • Cat123
    Cat123 Member Posts: 296
    edited September 2011

    Yes!  I finished my rads in July.  The last two weeks can't stop thinking about death and how I should plan for it.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2011

    There are several articles on the main Breastcancer.org site dealing with depression and some of the other feelings around diagnosis and treatment. Some of the information and insights may be helpful:

    Depression

    Also, from the BCO blog:

    "If you have been thinking about suicide, get help right away. When things are so bad that suicide seems like the only choice, it’s a sign that depression, discouragement, or despair are strong. These feelings — plus a difficult life situation — can make it seem like there’s no way out, and maybe even that suicide is the only choice. But you do have choices. You need support from someone who knows how to help people work through tough situations. A psychologist, psychiatrist, religious leader, counselor or other trained behavioral health professional can give you that support.

    If you need help finding someone to talk to right now, or if you are thinking about suicide, call a suicide crisis line (such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-999-9999) or the local suicide helpline in your neighborhood. You can also always dial 911. These toll-free lines are staffed by trained professionals who can help you without ever knowing your name or seeing your face.

    There is help and hope. Don’t try to handle the crisis alone."

    Judith and the Mods

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited September 2011

    Yes, I totally get it about the thoughts of death.  Found out yesterday a new friend suddenly and somewhat unexpectedly received a newborn baby for adoption after trying and trying to give birth to or adopt a kid.  I'm very happy for her, but as I was congratulating her there was this awful thought, "But hope you live long enough to raise this kid."  Nannababy,I was diagnosed around the same time you were, also stage III.  Treatment is done but it's really hard to get past the fear and live my life.  

  • NannaBaby
    NannaBaby Member Posts: 510
    edited September 2011

    It's bittersweet that I'm not alone in these thoughts... I am seeing my psychologist on Tuesday.  I'll keep you updated.

    It's not that I wanna give up! NEVER!  I am consumed with planning thoughts, regrets that I should have helped my mom more prepare for her death (I was 19), and I wonder if I'll be in pain and concious? What will I look like? Smell like? etc. And those kinds of thoughts can go on and on and on...

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited September 2011

    NANNABABY, Oh, I got you straight away, your fears of death have nothing to do with suicide, rather it is a fear of dying and the unknown and what to do with that sort of thing.  Just from what you said in your last post, I think I can tell you a couple things that I went thru that are similar. 

    A few years ago, when I got in my 50s, I got disabled and I began to think about all the stupid things I done in my life, and there were a lot of those to run thru.  What I did was any regrets I had, if the people were still around, I let them know I was sorry.  If they weren't around, I paid the favor back to anyone who needed it when the occasion arose.  And anything else, I at least settled it in my head by begging forgiveness and told myself that I done the best I could under the circumstances.  Then, just in case none of that was enough, I replaced sad thoughts with the good parts of my life.

    As for your actual possible demise from cancer, I do know that with Hospice, they let you die at home, they give you some powerful drugs to kill the pain so you don't suffer, and they make sure you have normal human dignity by handling day-to-day baths, feeding, clothing, just like in a hospital.  Now, could be your mother didn't have the advantage of Hospice.  But you will, if you need it.

    Actually, you know what I think might be possible?  I think losing your mom is all coming back to you now that your own life is threatened.  The association and similarity is clear.  Losing a parent at your age is traumatic.  In fact, my mother lost hers when she was in her early 20s, and do you know when I had to tell her I might die, she had nightmares and called out for her own mom.  It's all so helpless, the disease, suffering, death, and so it is very scary.  As my psych doc told me, anxious feelings like that "it's all fear," he said.  Conquering fear isn't easy, but we can at least side-step it, put it aside and go on and find things to do that make us happy.  No solution is perfect, but knowing a few things can tip the scale from sad to glad.

    Of course, I still wallow in my fears, depression, confusion.  On my bad days, I'm inconsolable and no amount of reasoning will help, mainly because it's a FEELING.  Emotions have no north star, so we go in circles until we find ways to release it.  I try to exercise, I try to read and watch TV, I used to paint but haven't gone back to it yet but am about to, and in spring I'd like to garden again, and there are lots of things people do to occupy their time, and so too should you.

    I'm SO glad you'll see your doc next week.  And we are now in Labor Day weekend, a time to rest and eat good food and talk to people we care about.  I hope everyone enjoys some time away from normal struggles and can smile at the simple things.  Always, GG  

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited September 2011

    The minute I heard that my mammogram showed "something", I got upset. I walked along our country road many miles, every day, thinking about death and the best ways to end any suffering I might have, including "disappearing" from family and friends....ie...not finding me. I even did trial runs to see which way was better/best. I spent a lot of time in the past, thinking about the good old days and the people who were already gone from my life and wanting them back. Old songs, old TV programs. Crying all the time. I did the existential search online. I am finding some answers that suit my head and heart about the nature of consciousness and the universe, near-death experiences and explanations of such from Hameroff's quantum consciousness studies. I'm going to buy the Chronicles of Consciousness DVDs soon. Nannababy is far too young to be bearing this frightening journey that scares ALL of US....but more so the young...I get that. Finding the meaning of your life, life in general is a difficult task for us...no easy answers...BUT DON'T DO THIS JOURNEY ALONE!!!!!! Find other women, talk, join; being alone makes you more fearful than you need to be and walking down country roads without a kindred soul GIVES YOU NOTHING BUT GRIEF. Find those kindred souls, Nannababy!!!!!!!!

  • NannaBaby
    NannaBaby Member Posts: 510
    edited September 2011

    It's just a fear... thanks for that :) I am not thinking of it that way.  Instead I think that I am losing my mind!

    My psych. dr. is switching my meds from effexor to cipralex. Let's see if that makes a difference.

    I do need to keep busy! I just get sooo tired some days!  My body has been pretty beat up this past year... 4 AC, 4 Taxotere, mastectomy, rads, 3 Cisplatin and 6 Navelbine!

    Thanks for the encouraging words :)

  • boxcars072000
    boxcars072000 Member Posts: 43
    edited November 2011

    Everyone:

    Like many of you , i dont think Im going to die, however, the ill just disappear before I become a burden on anyone thoughts have been there. but i still have a 15 year old son- I think my hardest question has been did i do anything to make a difference in anyones life somehow? Have I wasted time being angry or doing other things I shouldnt have been? Thats the hardest for me. Coming to terms with yourself is really really hard.

     (((Hugs)))

     Connie

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