July 2011 rads

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  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Um well.....I went in early today, wanting to show my out-of-control burning and humungous blisters to the rads nurse prior to treatment. She was so horrified by the sight of it she ran out and sent a doctor (not my RO, the one "on call" I guess) to look at me (my RO practices at a couple places and this morning she's at the other place). This doctor said it was so bad I shouldn't be treated today or tomorrow, and that she's calling my RO who will see me Wednesday morning and decide what to do about resuming treatment. Then the doctor sent the nurse back in. The nurse gently treated me with cortisone cream only, said I should only use that for now, and wrapped me all up in this special bandage (M-something; can't recall the name off the top of my head and I'm too lazy to run over and look). She also strongly suggested I skip tonight's shower but go on ahead with tomorrow's (keeping to lukewarm water), after which I should reapply cortisone cream and put on clean bandages (she gave me some to take home). For the burning and itch, she says take pain pills and benadryl.  I have both and will, soon as I get home (HAD to do laundry today, so I came here to the laundromat after leaving the cancer center). 

    :::::sigh::::: 

  • LovesChristmas-Barb
    LovesChristmas-Barb Member Posts: 706
    edited August 2011
    Wow Lena...I'm sorry it's so bad! Hopefully, the break will help and it'll get better soon...
  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Lena:

    I am sorry to hear that you are having such awful skin problems.  I hope you will start healing soon. Sorry also about the postponement of rads.  Sending hugs to you. 

  • leftfootforward
    leftfootforward Member Posts: 1,726
    edited August 2011

    I am very very red and my armpit is getting very sore. I can see the signs of my first blister appearing. I am hoping to avoid this as I only have 4 more treatments to my chest area and then next week I have my boosts to the scar area only.  I know that my skin looks great for how far I am into treatment, but it still annoys me when they say it looks great. It is red, hot, and getting sore.  and then they tell me that it will start to peel in about a week.  This is not normal and I wish there was a little more sensitivity that even if I am doing/looking great, it is a little disconcerning to have a bright red chest that is sore.

    That is my rant for the day.   

  • Cat123
    Cat123 Member Posts: 296
    edited August 2011

    Hi Lena, I was quite burnt during rads.  I applied saline solution a few times a day plus Glaxal Base moisturing cream (they recommended this) and this helped alot.  Even though I was burnt and peeling, it got better quicker than I expected.

  • Pollyagain
    Pollyagain Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2011

    Finished my last regular treatment today and start the first of five boosts tomorrow.  Have been experiencing some nausea and a lot of lack of appetite.  Funny I never had much of that during chemo and now didn't expect it during RADs.  My breast and upper chest are very red, no peeling or blisters.  Sensations are some prickley burning from time to time under my breast and under my arm and a lot of itching.  Don't know how much worse it will be.  Just so tired of it all.  I'm driving two hours each way every day.  Always have a driver or a passenger for company with me.  My friends have stepped up -- been just unbelievable.  My husband will be going tomorrow, on Thursday, a longer day because I have Herceptin that day and next Monday which will be the last, not the last trip I'm sure, but the last Boost. I am ready.

    We have two options, medically and emotionally: give up, or fight like hell. ~Lance Armstrong

  • LindaJanette
    LindaJanette Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2011

    Well Girls finally got my lydocaine tonight I am so mad that someone did not give this to me last week- advice to all a little behind us by your 24 treatment demand lydocaine for your underarn area

    it doesnt last that long but boy o boy does it lessen that pain,,,,)for thoose not allergic that is)

    2 more for you Liz

    4 more for me-

    and I also need to loose 30 lbs not gain..... 

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    LindaJanette:  So glad that you finally got something that helps your pain.  I am mystified at how my RO does not prescribe anything.  Like you, I realized only late in my treatments that I had to scream if I wanted anything at all.  Why does it have to be that way?  Anyway, thanks for advising newer rad patients to scream earlier than we did.  You have helped many people tonight.

  • LindaJanette
    LindaJanette Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2011
    Liz - I am so Happy For You1 MORE DAY.....and you'll be doneI am so happy with my lydocaine I cant even tell you it has to be re applied fairly oftenbut it is really reallly helping... Saw RO today wont see her again for 4 weeks she was a wonderful doctor thank god for her and DRs like her, now I feel like I have a good team put together.Advice to anyone new if you are unhappy with your doctor change until you find the right fitIt really makes all the difference in the world.. 30/33 today I see the light..How's everyone else doing? Leena? 
  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Thanks, LindaJanette.  The champagne is chilling and I am ready to celebrate.  Don't forget.  You toast me and I will toast you on Friday.  So glad that the lidocaine is working for you.  

    The advice about changing doctors if you are unhappy is excellent.  Hingsight is always 20/20, but I wish now I had changed rad centers early on.  That being said, the techs were great, but there is only so much they can do.  A different RO would have made my rad experience much better. 

  • LovesChristmas-Barb
    LovesChristmas-Barb Member Posts: 706
    edited August 2011

    I'm all finished today!!! Happy day for me and Elizabeth1889!!!

    I hope you're feeling better LindaJanette....saying a prayer for you...

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Thanks Barb.  I am so happy that you and I finished today.  It is a great feeling.  

    LindaJanette:  Here's hoping everything goes well with you through Friday and beyond. 

    I know I whined and vented a lot.  Thanks to everyone for putting up with me.  I honestly do not know how I would have gotten through rads without you.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • GiGiL
    GiGiL Member Posts: 928
    edited August 2011

    Congrats Elizabeth 1889 and Barb 58.  It must be such a good feeling to be finished!  I have one more whole breast treatment tomorrow.  After that we start the boosts.  Today I am seeing the skin cracking open in the fold under the breast.  Anyone have some good advice about how to treat that?  I called the nurse at the cancer center.  She told me to put the gel strips on it, but in my mind, that area didn't even get irritated until I started slathering a lot of cream on it.  Any one else have any opinions or ideas?  I would welcome them.  Thanks.

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Well, well well. No improvement to the second degree burns I showed the rads nurse and one of the doctors on Monday morning, so my own RO got to see them in full force for herself for today, although as it happens, apparently whatever the nurse and other doc had told her made her decide to tell my MO, and today with "confirmation" (my RO seeing it herself as compared to secondhand information from that nurse and other doctor), the decision is:

    NO MORE RADS. I "only" had 25/33 but I'm done. My skin just wasn't up to it, and RO says now my MO wants me to recover from the rads so she can put me on the Faslodex.

    RO gave me these saline and other dressings and said twice a day (morning and afternoon) I should lie down with them covering the burned areas for half an hour at a time, plus a tube of silver sulfadiazine cream -- when I don't have the dressings on I should have that cream on instead, and if I run out they'll call in more to my pharmacist. And, she wants to see me again next Thursday to see how I'm healing. OK......that works.  

    Elizabeth and Barb -- you're finished -- and you were somehow able to get through ALL the treatments you were originally scheduled for? Wow... congratulations!! Oh, and Elizabeth, don't worry about the whining -- I did plenty of that myself! LOL

    GigiL -- why not try the gel strips the nurse gave you? They sound OK to me, anyway, I'd at least try them if I was in your position.

    LindaJanette -- yeah, lidocaine cream is only good for 3-4 hours tops. I discovered that over the weekend when I used my EMLA cream (a lidocaine-prilocaine mix actually) on my own radiation burns. Got another form of relief for pain and itching of rads burns from the nurse I saw on Monday: she suggested I take both benadryl and ibuprofen. Benadryl helps the itching, ibuprofen helps the pain/inflammation. Of course, you have to take THOSE every 4 hours too though. But I tried it and it does help, so I'm still going to take them in addition to applying the soothing bandages and using the silver sulfadiazine cream.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Lena:  What an awful time you are having with your burns.  It sounds so painful.  I hope you will start improving soon.  And thank you for congratulating me.  Everyone on this forum is so kind to each other.  We are an amazing bunch of women.

    GiGiL:  I know that keeping the area moist with the gel strips sounds strange, but they worked well for me.  One of the techs suggested that I refrigerate them to make them extra soothing when I applied them. 

  • janinnj
    janinnj Member Posts: 89
    edited August 2011

    Congrats to Barb and Elizabeth for finishing.  Looks like this group is winding down.  Lena sorry you had so many problems but it must be a relief to know the healing can begin.  What is Faslodex?

    Gigi.  Do you think it was the creams that irritated or just that the rads are finally biulding up?  I would try the gel strips for a day or two and see if they help.  If not ask for something else.  In my experience there is nothing like silvadine cream for burns

    Had 27/33 today. Tomorrow is my last treatment to the supraclavicle and them I only have 5 more boost to the tumor.  Almost there.  Hang in there with me Gigi.

  • jankc
    jankc Member Posts: 96
    edited August 2011

    Tomorrow is #24 of 33 for me and I'm red, bumpy, sore, and somewhat itchy, too.  Tonight is also the first time I noticed a streak of redness under my arm  Most of this started with #19 last week, and they jumped me from the one product I'd been using, aloe vera gel, to four - the gel, aloe vera cream and 1% cortisone used where I need them and then cornstarch underneath.  Not sure all of this will cut it from here on out judging by the way I feel tonight, but what's a few more products at this point?  ; )  Good news today re: the results of the Onc-Dx test with a score of 12, so I'm off the hook with chemo and starting Arimidex once this is over with.

    Congratulations to all of those who completed their radiation and encouragement to all of those still getting zapped!

    Update: Finished #24 today and because of a new rash under my breast as well as on the top side, I'm now using vinegar soaks and Aquaphor, too.  Nine more sessions to go...

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited August 2011

    28/28 today,I'm done!!

    Lena-I've been taking ibuprofen & benadryl for the last 2 weeks & I also think it helps.

    Gigil-Try the gel sheets. It's the only thing that gives me relief. I have small bisters, nothing larger than a pea & it actually heals them. Since I had BMX without recon, I am using a large gel sheet & covering both sides of my chest where I am recieving chest wall radiation. I use the dressing for a couple of days & my skin gets better(even during rads). I took a 2 day break from the gel dressing & blisters returned. It sounds like you are dealing with a smaller area. I don't refridgerate mine although I heard I could. They feel plenty cold going on at room temp.

    Glad to get this chapter finished. Now back to the MO...............I really hope my Tamoxifen/lupron/AI chapter goes as well as RADS did for me........at least my chest won't itch & I won't have to go everyday. (OK I'm secretly dreading it).

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited August 2011
    YAY!  SO many finishers.  You guys will be so surprised at how much your body heals in the next week.  :)

    Lena - Ouch.  Wow.  I'm so glad that you can get on to the healing portion of this journey and that your RO had enough sense to say that enough is enough!

    LindaJ - how are you? 
  • LindaJanette
    LindaJanette Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2011

    Pejkug- Im good two more -- even more I am so proud of all of us, some a couple weeks ahead,

    some a couple of weeks back, some of us making it through today and in the next few days.

     really feeling the love for all of you 

    Thanks from the bottom of my heart for all of your help ladies---Its official we are survivors...

    ps will try benedryl and advil Thanks again what an itcy person I would be without you,

    Hey anybody Dr said about 4-5 days getting a little worse after finishing and then uphill from there? Soud right? 

  • GiGiL
    GiGiL Member Posts: 928
    edited August 2011

    I have been using the gel strips alternaring with aloe and the emu oil. I leave rhe strips on for long periods of time. When I use them, the skin turns a deeper shade of red. When I use the emu oil, the red fades a bit, and the same with the aloe. Tomorrow Janinnj, I will be thinking of you when I take my last whole breast treatment, knowing you will be doing the same. My boosts will be on the other unaffected side of the breast. I think that will be a relief, in itself. One foot in front of the other to the end.

  • LovesChristmas-Barb
    LovesChristmas-Barb Member Posts: 706
    edited August 2011

    My doctor did say that it would get worse for 4 to 5 days after finishing and then start to improve and that is what happened with me. My doctor is different in that she has you get the WBRs and then gives you a two week break before the boosts. I finshed the WBRs on July 28th and the next week my skin got worse and the soreness increased and then it rapidly started to improve. I started my boosts on August 15th and the rad techs were amazed at how well my skin looked. I finished my boosts yesterday and the only pink I have left is the boost area. It is feeling a bit stingy and burning a little but definitely bearable. Actually the thing that's bothering me the most right is the rib under my breast...it's feeling sore but the pain comes and goes.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone:  To those of us in the path of Hurricane Irene, I hope we will all stay safe.  Also, I hope no one will need to interrupt their treatments due to bad weather.

    I saw my MO this morning.  Blood work was fine.  I asked if I could take a break for a month before starting Arimidex and he said that would be fine.  A month hopefully without SE's and doctors' appointments sounds good to me. 

    Lena:  How are you feeling today?

    Coraleliz:  Congratulations on finishing rads.  It does take a while to believe that our active treatment is just about finished.

    LindaJanette:  I will be thinking about you tomorrow on your last treatment day.  I hope all goes well. 

  • janinnj
    janinnj Member Posts: 89
    edited August 2011

    GiGi-Looks like I will be a day behind you in treatment now.  When I went for my treatment today they told me they were closing the dept early tomorrow so they could use the area to set up cots for employees who will need to stay through the storm.  Asked if I could come in before I started work but since I am off tomorrow because my mom is here visiting we decided just to cancel.  Yeah for being done with the whole breast.

    Linda-Janet They say the effects of rads can keep getting worst for up to 2 weeks but most of the girls seem to say the healing starts in about a week.

  • Pollyagain
    Pollyagain Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2011

    My doctor was very specific that SEs would escalate for 3 to 5 days and then after they peak, get rapidly better.  The only thing giving me a lot of relief right now are the nu gel sheets, and they gave me a couple of boxes of them with lots of thick gauze pads for padding.    I cut them to the size I need.  They work well under my breast, but have a hard time getting them to stay in place under my arm, and I don;t want to use tape on the fragile skin.  They also gave me surgical mesh bras, but I don't think they are comfortable enough to wear to sleep.  I have my fourth boost tomorrow and last one on Monday.  I won't know what to do with myself on Tuesday without spending my four hours on the road.  Although I've had a friend to step up to the job of riding with me many days, my husband has reserved the last day for himself.  We will celebrate on the way home.

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Gaaah! My radiation burns seem to be getting worse even with the silver whatchamacallit cream and those soothing bandages. I could swear I have 15+ new blisters! And I haven't been zapped since LAST Friday?!?!?!?!

    Elizabeth, relish every second of life before you start the Arimidex. That stuff will just about make you sorry you were ever even born. The only thing that's worse than aromatase inhibitors (I've done them ALL) is cytotoxic chemotherapy. Which brings me to....

    Jan -- Faslodex is an estrogen blocker which works similarly to Tamoxifen (i.e., it blocks estrogen receptors on tumor cells so the estrogen can't get in and feed the tumor), but it doesn't carry the same risk of blood clots as Tamoxifen does. 

    Polly, when you finish your rads, I can promise you will DEFINITELY find that you have better things to do than drive several hours a day to and from rads! 

  • LindaJanette
    LindaJanette Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2011

    thanks gigil want to stay in touch and loose that extra weight

    Ok last day girls -it's a funny feeling - i'll report back later 

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    LindaJanette:  Congratulations!  Yes, we all must definitely stay in touch.  We can talk about our hormone therapy experiences and continue to support each other as only we can.

  • Mimidi
    Mimidi Member Posts: 231
    edited August 2011

    Finished my radiation treatments today.  I feel blessed because I only had one minor problem.  A light burn after 3 weeks. I must be one of the lucky ones.   It was so nice to come home today and take off the markers.

    My prayers are with all of you on the forum.

  • LovesChristmas-Barb
    LovesChristmas-Barb Member Posts: 706
    edited August 2011
    Congratulations LindaJanette and Mimidi! It is a wonderful feeling to be finished and take off those markers!Smile

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