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  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    OK Joyce, time to celebrate!!! 

    Michelle

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi hdangelbaby,

    I agree enjoy! My doctor told me 2-3 glasses of wine twice a week is fine, and that is what I am doing.

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi Joyce K,

    Be well! Enjoy your drink tonight, and I will drink to that!

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited August 2011

    My onc said it was fine in moderation, I don't drink as much as I once did but now that I have finished tx I have started drinking some again.  I'm BRCA1+ and have wondered if it would even matter if I stopped drinking or not.  It's one of the things I enjoy in life, BC has taken so much from me and I refuse to let it take anything else.

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi Jennifer,

    Enjoy your drinks in moderation! Be Well! Thanks for posting.

  • Christine2000
    Christine2000 Member Posts: 176
    edited August 2011

    I drink-- and not really in moderation! I love wine and really let myself have as much as I want. I drink pretty much every day. I eat no wheat, dairy or any other sugar and I exercise at least one hour a day. But I am NOT giving up my wine! 

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited August 2011

    Christine2000,

    So funny! What you said....Giving up a lot of things, wheat dairy, sugar and exercising a lot and then adding "But I am not giving up my wine"  That's exactly what my gyn. doc. said when I was telling her about the studies I read. She said "Oh shit, I am not giving up my wine" But then as an after thought, realizing that she is the doctor talking to the patient, added "of course we all drink in moderation" LOL

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited August 2011

    I have spoken to my oncologist, who is brilliant , trained out of the city of hope.  He is super progressive, and on every board from her to ten-buk-2! ! He's cutting edge all the way!!!

    He is constantly reserching new meds, ways to keep women on anthormonals longer who are er pos , just when I think he is the most brilliant doc, on the planet, he will tell me something new there working on!!  That being said,  I have had the wine conversation with him and my BS and my Rads onc. They have all said the same thing, esp. my onc. Have a damn glass of wine!!!!!!  He does not think they have enough data to prove the connection w/ alcohal and reaccurance, he also thinks it's been blown way out of perportion!!!!!

    You have to live your life, as you can see by my signiture my cancer was aggressive,  but it's gone!!!!  I am not going to spend the rest of my life living in the fear zone I refuse.  Now I am not telling you to drink a bottle a night, but a glass with dinner is not going to matter,  I hate to tell you all this. if our cancer is going to come back it is.  I would like to believe and do,  that they through the book at me, and I am healed, Just came from the onc today , the doc said you did everything to treat this cancer, everything, we can only control so much ladie's, we should eat right, yes excersise, yes, prayer for me is a big thing, I believe in the power it holds. The little enjoyments in moderation will not be the cause of a reacuurance, they just don't have it that figured out yet!!

    I am sorry if this offends anyone here, I love all my sister;s, but it's true!!  Don't have the wine if your not going to enjoy it!  I personally love a nice glass of red with dinner, ever night!!! You heard me!!

    Hugssssssssssssss

    I will be out 2 years from dx in oct. Thanks Lord, and bless all my sister's!!!! 

    cheers

    Steph

  • punkinfish
    punkinfish Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2011

    Oh how I love my red wine !!  We are the best of friends....been thru a lot together.  Seriously tho, I do enjoy it. Did before the bc and still do today.  I watch everything else I do, take a fist full of vitamins and other supplements, watch what I eat (although since chemo that weight is a bugger to get off..ughh).  But I do enjoy my wine and will continue to do so.  Red wine and coffee are my downfalls...I guess it could be a lot worse.  Enjoy !!

  • Aliceann
    Aliceann Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2011
    There is always the controversy of wine as a factor in bc.  We won't resolve that issue, because someone else will decide that drinking wine is good for you.  I was told many years ago; alcohol can create dehydration and a person in treatment needs hydration.  The greatest problem with alcohol, is that the glass empties quickly and another glass is easy to drink etc. etc. Kiss alice
  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited August 2011

    Its true Alice,  but lets all give ourselves a little more credit then that!!!  We have all been through alot,  were not looking to hurt ourselves, I am  just not going to completely let this disease take from me small pleasures in life! It took  most of my body parts, so my glass of wine makes us even!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its not a good thing to debate, nobody will have the right answer. In the end we all have to do what we are comfortable with and be happy with are choices!!!!!!!

    Moderation, key word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    I have great news. I just came home from an appointment with my surgeon. I do not have lymph node involvement, my margins are clear and I am a stage1. I will drink to that. Thank you to all who have supported me.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    That is great news!  Congrats!!!  And have a sip for me, just had chemo today so I won't tempt fate with a glass of wine for at least a week.

    Michelle

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi Michelle,

    OMG how sweet of you to congratulate me. I will have a sip for you and a toast to your speedy recovery. Be well!

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi Joyce K,

    How sweet of you to congratulate me. Thanks you so much for your support.

  • ktn
    ktn Member Posts: 181
    edited August 2011

    Kate~ Congrats on your news!!! You opened up a great discussion here. We will never all agree on everything and may go about things our own way but we are all in this together! Cheers!

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Thank you ktn. I so much appreciate your support. I wish you all of the best, and I will drink to that!

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited August 2011

    Kate,

    so happy to hear your good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are going to live a long ,wonderful life!!

    Blessings,

    Steph

  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi Steph, Thank you so much for your support. You have been a doll during my hours of fear. You will live a long wonderful life too, and I will be praying for your good health!

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited August 2011

    I read this entire thread... and first I need to say......... JUNIE has passed???????????????????? WHAT??? I am sick by this.. I need to go find out.... :(

    On drinking...

    if you are HORMONE + ( cannot tell from your posts) then you need to limit alcohol. ONLY hormone + ladies fall into this category at this point.

    Triple negs and Her2 + only ... have no link to increased BC recurrences or BC in general, especially after mastectomies.

    I am a Her2+ woman with a big fat 0 linking me to er/pr+ BC. During chemo... I was loosing weight.... and my state is a " non medical Marijuana" state PERIOD.... so my onco had me drinking wine DAILY to increase my appetite. It worked... and I only lost like 11 pounds.

    I am also on hormone replacement therapy ( chemo put me in menopause at age 40).... my Breast Cancer Center here........ had no problem putting on this... for five yrs.. ( I will be 48then) and then reassessing at that point.

    Bottom line........ if you are not hormone + BC.... the alcohol data is not meant for you... nor is the hormone therapy data, according to my Breast Cancer Treatment Center.

  • HollyinMich
    HollyinMich Member Posts: 210
    edited August 2011
    Katehudson25 - What great news, so happy for you.  I'll be having a glass of my favorite red for you tonight!
  • katehudson25
    katehudson25 Member Posts: 2,467
    edited August 2011

    Hi Hollyinmich,

    Thank you so much for your support. I hope you enjoyed your wine. Of course I had a glass to celebrate. Be well!

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited August 2011

    I have been drinking all thru treatment, not heavily, not everyday, butlike normal... and my onc says that is fine... He says that while I was in chemo not to have more than 2 drinks at a time, but if I do, take the next day off... It has more to do with liver stress than the chemo effectiveness... I was responsible and this summer (post chemo) really haven't had a lot to drink at all... a beer once in a while...

    As a youth, I for sure over-drank but I don't think it contributed to getting cancer, or in my opinion, most women would have cancer just after college. As an adult, I am reasonable but enjoy a beer or glass of wine or three now and again.

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited August 2011

    I think I just read a study that definitively linked alcohol to cancer.  I'll try to find it.  Not trying to scare anyone, but my onc says that I can eat "whatever I want" and I know that isn't so.  Sometimes our oncs are not up on the latest studies regarding diet/lifestyle and I think that is the case here.  

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited August 2011

    every darned thing causes cancer anymore

    from lack of sleep to stress to milk to non organic foods..

    what fun is life if you can't enjoy what life you have left?

  • sandogger
    sandogger Member Posts: 68
    edited August 2011

    I not only don't drink wine, I don't drink ANY alcholic beverages now.  After reading many studies that indicate booze may be a major contributing factor in breast cancer, I just wish so much, that I was warned about that a long time ago.  I used to drink due to a super stressful job and for other reasons.  I was not a drunk, but I definitely wish I could go back in time and undo drinking booze.  I went cold turkey - not a problem for me.

    So, you may not like my answer, but it is a bad idea to drink if you have any BC experience.

    Good luck to you!

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited August 2011

    I'm with sandogger.  i realize that alcohol is fun, but the links are pretty definitive to cancer.  just not worth it. 

  • nancy2721
    nancy2721 Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2011

    Wow...so glad to have found this thread. I believe BC has taken so much away from us that it is NOT going to take away what I enjoy. I have at least 2 glasses of red wine a night. Yes, its a habit...but it is a habit I enjoy. My onc says it is too much but hasn't told me to quit. Wouldnt matter anyway...I'm not going to. I believe so much is associated with cancer that if I do have a recurrance I nor my onc will blame the wine. It could be the charbroiled burger I used to eat, the garden hose I drank out of as a kid, the mosquito spray that at six years old smelled so good. Though there are days when I am pouring another one I question whether or not I really should.....I pour it though...and enjoy it. And I am living my life..not letting BC take it.

  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited August 2011

    Ladies, have you looked for lower alcohol wines? There are a couple of brands available in Australia; McWilliams Balance shiraz and semillon sauvignon blanc and Lindemans Early Harvest and Sweet Seasons range, all about 25% lower in alcohol than other wines and still taste as good.



    I had ILC and drank a lot before diagnosis but have cut down considerably now and just have half a glass or less of the lower alcohol wine at home. This is enough to satisfy my craving. When I go out I will have one glass.



    When I asked my onc he said in his view the link between bc and wine is not proven but I am taking the moderate path anyway.



    I would be very sad to give up wine completely as it is one of life's pleasures in my opinion. People have been drinking wine for thousands of years. Even Jesus Christ enjoyed it (in moderation of course).

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2011
    I have also been told to limit alcohol consumption, but never had a satisfactory answer.  I found a link (which naturally I can not copy and paste) that explains more than my onc told me.  If you google connection between alcohol and breast cancer, the first article,  a CBS news story explains it quite well.  Unfortunately, I am of the school of thought that I see several on this thread share.  Having wine while making and eating dinner is one of my life's few pleasures.  I have to have cancer and give up alcohol?  No way Laughing

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