Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski

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  • corian68
    corian68 Member Posts: 168
    edited July 2011

    Anyone remember DES or DDT? FDA & Government were singing praises for these drugs and their safety. spraying DDT through neighborhoods where children played everyday. And prescribing DES to pregnant Mothers......well there were TERRIBLE consequences....TERRIBLE. If we allow the government to dictate our health...well we aren't exactly being responsible consumers. We have to be our own health advocates. Do the research, if it makes sense & the benefits out way the risks...then he'll yes begin treatment. If your doctor ( & FDA ) suggests taking a medication that is a known carcinogen to potentially prevent a recurrence of BC and it doesn't feel right to you ( as in my case) ....then he'll no. Learn about doctors like Burzynski, Blaylock & Forsythe. People will always say the pioneers of anything new are quacks. The world is not flat.....the pioneers that suggested it was wasn't...well I am sure they were deemed quacks as well..

  • Deirdre1
    Deirdre1 Member Posts: 1,461
    edited July 2011

    NurseAnn:  you said "I think the insurance companies probably won't pay for anything he orders (blood work, scans, drugs) because he's not an Oncologist and probably also does not have "privledges" at a local hospital."

    I went with to see Dr. Burzinski  my insurance did cover my blood work, PET and my evaluation of his "team" of doctors.  His medicine however haven't go the FDA approval yet so you would have to apply under the "orphan act" I believe to get any coverage for that - FDA told me I didn't qualify (after I left Dr. B. clinic).. The doc's (Including Dr. B) are all fully trained doctors ANd have very strong background in cancer so your insurance company has to respect their scripts and labs BUT they don't have to pay for the medicine.  He, after reviewing my information (as well as my father's), ANd going over it with all the "team" members stated that he didn't really have anything that could help me that wasn't already available in conventional medicine.. so he suggested that I continue to work with my own doc's until and unless I developed an invasive cancer.  He is a very good man and didn't take advantage of me at all.. he didn't ask if I could pay or if I couldn't if my insurance would cover me or if it wouldn't or EVEN if I had insurance.. Frankly if he had had some meds that he thought would be helpful to me I would have mortgaged my home to get it..  but that's just me..  He has something, but I'm just not sure what and which cancer's it will or won't work on.. That coming through his research - in the future...  Best, Deirdre

  • JJoshiMD
    JJoshiMD Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2011

    Burzynski is a quack. Period. If any one knows, I do, I was the chief medical officer and senior oncologist at the Burzynski Clinic for a year and a half

  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited August 2011

    JJoshi, do you have anything to offer that would lend weight to your claims?  Anyone could claim to be a doctor or anyone they choose and your word is the same as any testimonial.  

    Where did all those people come from who appeared in court with their healed children?  I could at least see them give evidence. 

  • dutchgirl1
    dutchgirl1 Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2011

    Sorry He might be a good doctor still he loses pastients( like other doctors) He treats all cancers.I would not go to him.I would have to pay out off my own pocket's.because I am Canadian.My neighbour down the street lost her live after two years going to him she had lung cancer.And her husband ended paying for her treaments a lot of money.She could have the same treatments in Canada.And have the same outcome.If I would seek treaments in the USA it would be one off the big cancer centers in the states not Dr BURZYNSKI.I saw his show with Susan Somers and I did not like his answers.

  • Yazmin
    Yazmin Member Posts: 840
    edited August 2011

    Joy, you wrote:

    "......Where did all those people come from who appeared in court with their healed children?  I could at least see them give evidence......" 

    And let me add this: if there is no value to his work/research, how come that no other than the FDA is now acknowledging the antineoplastons, and trying to give the patent for this invention to a huge multi-billlion pharmaceutical company? (I guess if the FDA wins, the same people calling Dr. Burzynski a quack will be lining up for his treatment).

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited August 2011

    I don't know this J. Joshi person but I just Googled and it does come up as someone at the Burzynski Clinic.  Of course I have no way of knowing if the person posting here is that person.  I am prejudiced to believe he is as I know someone who almost died doing the Burzynski protocol.

    I really don't want to get into whether the protocol works for some or not.  I've made up my mind where I stand on that but don't feel the need to convince others. 

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited August 2011

    What's with the duplicates lately?  Is anybody else having this problem?

  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited August 2011

    JJoshi has written his biography on his profile. He must be feeling like people who write medical testimonials but no one knows whether it's genuine, a fraud, or just an exaggeration.

    We need some sort of register for people who want to supply testimonials where they can supply medical proof of their diagnosis and their progress. This could come under some sort of research budget and be used by statisticians to look for correlations that are deserving of further study.

    If we are to take cancer seriously then we need to categorize cancer into early and metastatic.  It's pointless anyone claiming they have defeated cancer when they had surgery for a primary tumour.  AFIK only a few stage IV cancers can be beaten if there is only one secondary that is surgically removed.  All other unexpected long term remissions from stage IV need to be validated and researched.

    Historically, cures have come from people experimenting with different methods and substances till they had some results, then others copying their successes.  As an addition to our current research methods, we need to get back to basics with the addition of proper validation so that people can't fraudulently claim they have a cure, and potential cures aren't lost because no one will listen. 

  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited August 2011

    Dutchgirl, the reason people aren't refunded for their treatments is the lack of acceptance by the authorities and insurance companies. I hear his treatments are cheaper than most chemotherapies. Most die from metastatic disease regardless of their treatments, that is not proof of anything and treatments are often harsh and dangerous.  The big question for me is, does a remedy have better results statistically than conventional treatments?  As the met results are less than 1% for many cancers, if an alternative remedy results in just 5% cure rate then that is a big improvement but tough for the 95% who die and their loved ones.

    I'd like his treatments to work for all our sakes, but if they don't then we need to know. 

    JJoshi, have you resigned from the clinic?  You list it as your current occupation. 

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2011

    I stopped in at a yardsale today. The yard sale was to raise money for a young girl who has brain stem cancer. I mentioned Burzynski and the woman said the child came home from his clinic two weeks ago. She had a mri last week and the tumor is signifantly smaller. The family was very impressed with Burzynski clinic and treatment. They will be going back I'm sure for more treatment. Great that families like this have hope and there is someone like Burzynski who has dedicated himself to fighting cancer.

  • thats-life-
    thats-life- Member Posts: 1,075
    edited August 2011

    jjoshimd: i would really appreciate more information to better understand your opinion that burzynski is a quack. I would imagine that to take a position at his clinic, you must have felt at some point, that it was at the least, a respectable post, considering your previous posts/positions at various cancer centers. It could benefit many people if you could provide more detail of your experience and eventual disillusionment, thanks, n.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited August 2011

    I get the feeling that jj was a hit and run.

  • TAPPY
    TAPPY Member Posts: 283
    edited September 2011

    My friend is sending me a DVD of his treatments. (and a linky to his web site)

    I am sticking with the tried and true for now, but I would be interested in learning more about what his protocals are and who they are good for

    She did say that some people LOVE or some people HATE him in the medical community...

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited October 2011

    I am about halfway through Suzanne Summer's book "Knockout" and in it she interviews Dr. Burzynski, as well as survivors of his treatments.  I have also read about him on Dr. Whitaker and Dr. Mercola's sites.  Obviously the traditional medical community does not support his alternative treatments, although the FDA does support clinical trials that utilize his discoveries.  His treatments fall under alternative therapy and therefore would not be covered by insurance, so I'm not sure how one could afford to have treatment unless you are wealthy or get selected for a clinical trial that involve using his therapies.

    As for hs being a quack, he was acquitted of all charges filed against him, and still has his license to practice. He has a clinic in Houston, Texas.  He is very honest in his interview about not having all the answers and not being able to help all cancer patients.  He does use some very low doses of chemo, but low enough that the SE's are minimal to non existant.  The treatment plan is designed for the patient individually whereas under conventional programs, that is not always the case, according to him.

    The book is worth a read, then decide for yourself how you choose to accept the use of alternative therapies in treating cancer. 

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited October 2011
    I think it is all great.BUT WHO CAN AFFORD IT????Not me.
  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited October 2011

    grannydukes:  Read the book...it is filled with vital infomation about the role diet and nutrition plays in managing your disease, and there are integrative medical doctors that will treat the disease from a nutritional standpoint.  I'm sure there many books out there that deal with this subject...I just happened to pick this one up at the book store and found it to be very educational.

    I'm in the early stages of evaluation and diagnosis, and I want to be certain that I am making the choices that are best for me.  It's not that I don't trust conventional medicine, it's just that I know it is based on long held theories of standard of care that may or may not be in every patient's best interests.   

  • TerriD
    TerriD Member Posts: 591
    edited October 2011
  • dreaming
    dreaming Member Posts: 473
    edited October 2011

    He refused to be part of reputable monitoring of his research.

    One has to pay cash.

    He uses a product that is made from human urine that he collects.

    When patients are terminal or run out of money they are are ask to go somewhere else.

    I have seen the exact "add "in different cancer forums.

    The film was not a science proving fact supported one, it is a PR film.

    Why not summit his finding facts to be investigated by government agencies like other scientist do?

    He has never been approved for any research grant or funds, public or private for the same reason.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited October 2011

    The good doctor was on TV last night, it was on the "Documentary" channel on satellite TV (DirecTV), the title was his name.  I watched most of it, had to switch over to watch the end of "Project Runway."  If it wasn't on the Docum channel, it was on QVTV (something like that).  It will likely be on that Docum channel again, I'm almost positive that was the satellite station.

    Anyhow, the TV show "Burzynski" presented his viewpoint, with the other view towards the end, and explains so much of what the FDA and other detractors apparently wouldn't want you to know or were afraid of becuz they had not studied his science.  But his science cannot be disputed, especially from what I heard cancer survivors testify.  While he treats all cancers, I write this today because some lovely families with children who had inoperable brain cancer, where nothing else would work, in something like 20 percent of cases he cured these kids, zero tumor, and they lived until the current day, many in their 20s (he's been at this since the 1980s).

    So, if anyone winds up with brain mets and is concerned about their outcome or the effects of radiation, do consider checking into this doctor, I believe he's in Texas.  It is not a guarantee, but it is indeed a good chance, to make it thru that.  It's one thing I sort of concerned myself with, that I might get brain mets, and I was a little afraid of having something in my brain and all, plus the idea of rads to my brain worried me.  His treatment consists of giving the body some peptides that they do not have, no side effects, and this causes many patient tumors to shrink to nothing (kind of like chemo shrunk my breast tumors to zero, only chemo doesn't work as well in brain cancers).  It's not ALL people cured, but with enough grant money, if the gov would ever recognize his good work, he could turn this into at least an accepted and additional way of treating patients with certain inoperable cancers... that way the pharmaceutical companies can still make their drugs, the FDA can let him have some dollars, and the cancer world will be better off.  I'm just saying...

  • aureliocastrellon
    aureliocastrellon Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2011

    These are my conclusions about Dr Burzynski's work:

    1. He is not a quack, the man is a well trained oncologist who discovered peptides in the urine of healthy individuals and found these to have antineoplastic properties. After looking at all of the publications and patients testimonies, I conclude the activity is limited to central nervous system tumors and only works in a subset of patients. The treatment is well tolerated with an excellent toxicity profile.

    2. These treatment have not been approved to be used outside the context of a clinical trial due to bad rapport between the NCI and Dr Burzynski.

    3. Dr Burzynski combines antineoplastons with the current therapies such as:  hormonal , chemotherapy, immunotherapy, targeted therapy for any type of cancer patient that seeks his medical care. But the real question remains if antineoplastons add anything to the current standards of care, since this has not been tested in clinical trials.

    4. It is very expensive to see Dr Burzynski, he will charge you cash for the manufacture of antineoplastons, your insurance company should cover the cost of imaging procedures, chemotherapy, labs, clinic visits as long as it falls in the current standards of care.

    In Conclusion you will likely get the same treatment at Dr Burzynski's Cancer center than anywhere else and by this I mean good medical treatment and the standard of care, you will in addition get antineoplastons which have not been shown to have activity as single agents in most tumors with the exception of Central Nervous system tumors where I believe has been well documented. There might be anecdotal data in some other tumors.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited November 2011

    Vicky Anne.. where did you get the idea we can't share email addresses?    this is a forum and can be done privately.  pleaase send me some anecdotes, unsubstantiated .

  • TerriD
    TerriD Member Posts: 591
    edited November 2011

    My sister recently went to see him, he takes cash only.  SO far the consultation cost almost 2k.  He will bill her for tests he ordered, that jad to be prcessed by his facility (which would have been paid by her insurance at a hospital). She is stage 4 (liver mets) he offered her chemo, along with a drug that was also being used in teh medical industry that is being used was for post-menopausal women (she is pre-menopausal).  I forgot teh names of teh drugs, sorry.  He was a waste of time and money for her.  husg terri in MI

  • jaborobson
    jaborobson Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2011

    Unlike sassa, i have done my research, and have taken the necessary steps to educate myself on this subject matter. Dr. Burzynski is not a quack! Many records show results of cancer patients who had never undergone any other treatment to be cancer free after undergoing antineoplaston therapy. All of these cases were supervised by the FDA and are a matter of public record. I encourage anyone to see for themselves the remarkable results this non-toxic treatment has produced. As for you sassa, you're in luck, i hear ignorance is bliss.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited December 2011

    We are all big girls who are entitled to our opinions on Burzynski or any other course of treatment . jaborobson, you have every right to your opinion but no need to fling an insult at sassa. I am always intrigued by civil discourse . Can we please keep it civil? Caryn

  • jaborobson
    jaborobson Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2011

    After reading several replies, it seems that Burzynski's treatment is highly costly. Can someone please tell me how much?

  • jaborobson
    jaborobson Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2011

    exbrnxgrl you're right, i sometimes let my emotions get the better of me. I too find discourse captivating and occasionally fire back, but being civil is the best approach to most situations.

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited December 2011
    I have a friend who is a 26 yr.cancer survivor.stage 4 now.she called to find out how much a consult was for the famous dr.The first visit was quoted at $600.00.And as we know it is not covered......If I was rich i would go for a consult!!!!!.Unfortunately my friend is not rich either.
  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited December 2011

    jaborobson, those of us who watched the film and checked further into Burzynski know he's ok. It is my take on it that there are a few people, who visit this thread or forum  to make a whole lot out of nothing. If they can find someone or something alternative to rag on they will. They are here with the red pen to correct, police us or to just polk fun at us. They want us to accept their opinions or ideas, and don't give us the freedom even on our own forum to express ours. They seem to be here to discredit alternative or holistic medicine. Sad :(

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited December 2011

    Because a lot of alternative or holistic medicine is not approved by FDA...such as our naturalpath doctors & tratments it is self pay. "Standard" care is covered by our insurance. if you had to pay for standard care you would pay much more than you would for alternative medicine.

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