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  • LindaJanette
    LindaJanette Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2011

    Pejkug- wow -- I wish I had some way to help you..

    If I may sugest, for several reasons which will become apparent-- go see Love and Other Stupid things it wont help your wounds but it will make you laugh.. and the sceenery is not bad either.. 

    Kaskav would you explain to me in laymen, the way the fractional route works.I really want to understand as much as I can about treatment options in general..

    I am going to try to open a new thread thats called rads and beyond the saga continues.. as we all adjust to yeah! being without our daily treatments - still need to figure out the pill if and when and why and all that.. plus Im sure there will be othe issues - why? cause there always are....I'll let you know if I get it, I just cant bare the thought of losing touch with this great group of ladies.

    Many of you were sympathetic to my Sunday/Monday issue so thank you and Lets just pass that down to some of you that are in your earlier number -Sundays are hard and make you cry..Mondays are the hardest day to get up (show up) but as wisely said- Just keep showing up anyway. 

    Gigil what about cheese _ I really cant live without cheese

    Lena love you cool girl- you just say what others feel -Whats Lena in Sim world up to?

  • janinnj
    janinnj Member Posts: 89
    edited August 2011

    Pejkug-  Ouch!!  Did they give you anything like silvedene ( spelling)?

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited August 2011
    pejkug3: That sounds so familiar Undecided.. I did that too... Did they tell you it was going to get worse before it gets better?? The thing is it will get better just takes a little time - I creamed and used the aquaphor at night and took pictures so I could see the progress and had ammo to show the doc if needed... Went around with no top on when ppl weren't around for about 2 weeks.. and slowly it did get better - i couldn't use silvadene because it has sulfa in it but used polysporin instead of the aquaphor and it helped tremendously...
  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited August 2011

    Checking in 31/33 - DONE!

    My poor sore nipple sticks to my clothes and h-u-r-t-s when I take off my shirt.  Ouch!  The area under my breast is getting worse and the one under my arm was a concern to the RO at my weekly skin check today.  Personally, I think the area under my arm looks the best of all of them!

    The RO said that he doesn't like how quickly the areas opened up - he really thought I'd skate through without even peeling - and the wounds are beginning to look ulcerated.  He prescribed Silvadene cream.  I've used it once today.  He's doing another skin check on Friday.

    I've been using the Aquaphor at night.  I have some tshirts that I'm certain will be forever caked in the stuff.  I was told by the RO that my boost area probably won't open up but the techs said it could since it's also kinda under my arm.  I guess time will tell.

    I was told that things will get worse before they get better.  I can hardly wait! 

    Herceptin #9 tomorrow and rads #32 - bring.it.on.  ;)

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone,

    24 done/9 to go.  I am down to single digits in terms of total treatments left.  Skin is getting unhappy and angry red and I know it will get worse before it gets better, but in less than two weeks I will be done.

    I hope everyone is having a good day. 

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited August 2011

    Hang in there ladies.........................your seeing the end of the road just ahead..................It's tough, but your tougher.................hugs

  • LindaJanette
    LindaJanette Member Posts: 71
    edited August 2011

    As sore and hurting as you are ducky is right your all tough,and we are almost there..

    2 more Christy, and Liz and I are not far behind..

    Losing skin -peeling like crazy pain blah blah blah -but with the two days off I dont even care just so happy for the break. It's the little things aahhhhhhh

    Linda 

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Thanks for the encouragement, Ducky and Linda.  It helps so much.  I, too, am looking forward to the weekend.

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    OMG pejkug thank goodness you're almost DONE!!!!!!!!! Even though I had a BMX so no breasts/nipples to get sore from the rads, your posts still scare me.

    19/33 for me today. I'm still taking Dayquil and Nyquil for the coughing (dry again since I got over the cold), plus daily using the Jeans cream and cortisone cream. The Chest is pinkening up quite a bit now and also looks like it would be a good idea for me to go back to my post-BMX PT exercises. I still have my ROM but it's getting a little stiff/uncomfortable sometimes.

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited August 2011

    19/28 today. I'm definitely red! The itching continues. If I rub, even ever so gently, anything on my chest, the itching starts & can go on for hours. The best luck I have at stopping it is showering & letting it air dry. The RN put a "CoolMagic Gel Sheet" on one side of my chest to see if that will help. I'm gettng bilat Rads for bilat disease following BMX. The dressing can be left on for 3 days but she told me the techs would probably have me take it off tomorrow before Rads. I like the concept but I think it might work better after I'm done with Rads. pejkug-This might be something to ask your wound care nurse friend about. It can be used on open wounds as well as burns & I'm thinking about you & your situation & that you are almost done!

    The tech & the nurse have different ideas. The tech has mentioned emu oil & told me about a patient who went to an alternative herbalist practitioner & was give a lotion that is helping! She gave me the name of this practitioner. I haven't run out of options, but Rads might end for me before for I find a solution.

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited August 2011

    Thanks for the tip, Cora.  I see the RO tomorrow for a skin check and I'll be asking about that.  My armpit is so sore today.  I even used the horseshoe shaped pillow under my arm when we went out for dinner tonight.

    Funny story...when I was being grouchy about all my skin issues at my skin check on Wednesday, the RO said, "I told you this could happen."  I responded back, "Yeah, well if I told you that I was going to back into your car in the parking lot, it wouldn't make you any happier about it."  DH and I hunted down his car in the hospital parking lot today....his tags say "RAD MAN".  SHeesh...lol

    Another funny - I have an oval shaped burn mark right on my clavicle bone.  You know the bony part that sticks out a bit?  I have a noticable burn right there.  It kind looks like a hickey.  I went for Herceptin today and when the onco nurse asked me what happened to my neck, I told her it was a hickey.  She says, "Well, how'd you get that?"  I said, "Well, how do you get hickies?!"  LOL  Even the MO thought that burn was odd - it's all lonely there and the skin around it it perfectly fine!  (Not that I'm complaining about that!)

    Guess what girls?!  Tomorrow I and DONE DONE DONE! 

    And I'm having a margarita at lunch.  :P

  • Colodisneylover
    Colodisneylover Member Posts: 220
    edited August 2011

    Hi all-Been following this thread and have a question. If you had MX, are you doing the boosts? What was your RO's explanation?  Mine won't give me two minutes to explain it.  "Seeing" him each Tuesday is a joke.  I was under the impression that boosts were more for lumpectomy. I just want some info so that I can get a better explanation. Thanks!

    Pejkug-Enjoy your margarita! You deserve it! Congratulatoins on finishing. :)

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    25 down/8 to go  Getting close to being done!  Happy SE free weekend, everyone.

    pejkug3:  Congratulations on being finished.  It has been a long road for you.  Thanks for the story about telling the RO about backing into his car.  That image made me smile through rads this morning.

    Colodisneylover:  I sympathize with your experience with your RO.  My Tuesday visits are usually a joke, too.  In my mind, I refer to him as Dr. Clueless.  His nurse is no better.  I am having a problem with itching like many people here and all she said was to use OTC hydrocortizone.  If that had worked, I would not have asked for her help.

  • kshav6
    kshav6 Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2011

    LeeLee - The boosts are different because they just do one area.  On mine they attached something (like an extension) to the rads machine and it got real close to my skin.  They also moved the table I was lying on in an angled direction.  There is only one shot of rads (as opposed to three different angles they were doing on me before) and then done for that session.  I was also told that the boosts only go just below skin deep, not as deep as the regular rads.  The strength of the radiation was just a little less than normal too, but not much.  Now (three days since the last one) I can clearly see the area that was boosted.  It is pretty red and it is kind of sore.. But mainly only when I have to itch.  My nipple is very itchy and irritated and it was not in the boost area.  The boost area was over my lumpectomy scar. 

    Yesterday I was so freaking tired I had to go take a nap and I was pretty lethargic all day.  So, I guess the effects of the rads continue even though I am no longer getting them.

    LindaJ - The route I took was I got double the dose of radiation each day and went half the amount of time.  It is a way that they are finding that works just as good as extending it out for five or six weeks.. I went a little over three weeks with 16 rads and 3 boosts (which equaled to 32 treatments with I guess six boosts).  I did not have any worse skin reaction and actually had better skin reaction than some who go the extended route.  The doctor told me before I started that he sees no skin reaction differences in women that go the fractionated route as opposed to the regular route.  The only thing they did tell me later was that women doing the double dose tend to get more tired.  Since it is a shorter amount of time, I guess that is a fair trade off.

  • kshav6
    kshav6 Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2011

    Congrats Pejkug3! 

    LindaJ did you get that other after rads thread going?  If so, how do we get to it?

  • LovesChristmas-Barb
    LovesChristmas-Barb Member Posts: 706
    edited August 2011

    There is an after radiation thread already if you're interested. It's called "After Radiation". It's listed under the Radiation Therapy forum.

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited August 2011
    Colodisney, I had a BMX & my boosts seem different than those who had lumpectomies. I rubbery gelatinous sheet is place over the area that is being radiated, It causes the radiation to be focused closer to the skin & not as deep. Not much area between my skin & chest wall. At first, they didn't use this sheet. Then it was used daily. Now, every other day. Lena & Laura(mamaoftwo) on this thread also talk of this. You may want to look back for their posts. I think they may have explained it better.
  • GiGiL
    GiGiL Member Posts: 928
    edited August 2011

    Colodisneylover I can relate.  Disney is it for my family.  We go there at least six times a year.  I think of my favorite spots at Disney during my rads treatment.  19 done, 14 to go.  Skin is pinking up, fatigue is there too.  I am having aching shoulders as well.  I'm not sure if it is because I am sleeping so hard and not moving enough, or if this is a reaction to the rads.  Anyone else have that?

     Congrats pejkug 3 on being done.  Enjoy that margarita!

    Enjoy the weekend free from rads everyone! 

  • Colodisneylover
    Colodisneylover Member Posts: 220
    edited August 2011

    GiGiL-Yay for another Disney lover!  We normally go in September....however this year I'll be getting my other breast removed instead!  Totally bummed but that will make the next trip even better! :)

    Thanks everyone for the info on the boosts.  I am sure glad it's Friday.  My skin needs a BIG break from all of this.

     Happy Friday afternoon everyone!

  • Mimidi
    Mimidi Member Posts: 231
    edited August 2011

    I finished 23 of 33 today.  Only 10 more to go.  I was sorry to miss a week to let my skin rest but all is going well now.  Like the doctor told me, "do what I tell you to do and everything is be fine".  

    I hope everyone has a great weekend.

  • LeeLee3
    LeeLee3 Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2011

    Kshav6 - I actually had my first boost today and yeah, it was similar to yours...they changed the face of the rad machine and I could see like a small round opening.  I was in my same position and they still did two angles, just like regular rads.  And they explained that it was aimed just to the site/lumpectomy incision.

    The rad team gave me some Aquaphor, I believe week before last, and that has really helped with the itching and irritation, though mine was pretty much contained to my armpit.  My understanding is that it takes a few weeks for the fatigue to cease once you've stopped radiation. 

    I just keep thinking, next week this time I will be done with rads!!!

    pejkug3 - Great story about backing into RO's car - LOL!!!  Trying to decide if license plate is a little insensitive or tacky...on the one hand I guess it's just like anybody else who puts their profession on their plates, but....??? 

     Blessings to All

    (Never a sunset without a sunrise!) 

  • LeeLee3
    LeeLee3 Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2011
    Kshav6 - I actually had my first boost today and yeah, it was similar to yours...they changed the face of the rad machine and I could see like a small round opening.  I was in my same position and they still did two angles, just like regular rads.  And they explained that it was aimed just to the site/lumpectomy incision.The rad team gave me some Aquaphor, I believe week before last, and that has really helped with the itching and irritation, though mine was pretty much contained to my armpit.  My understanding is that it takes a few weeks for the fatigue to cease once you've stopped radiation. I just keep thinking, next week this time I will be done with rads!!!pejkug3 - Great story about backing into RO's car - LOL!!!  Trying to decide if license plate is a little insensitive or tacky...on the one hand I guess it's just like anybody else who puts their profession on their plates, but....???  Blessings to All(Never a sunset without a sunrise!) 
  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Pejkug congrats on being DONE!! Did you have that margarita?

    Colo I also had a BMX but haven't gotten to the boosts yet. What I think that piece of material coraeliz is referring to is the bolus, and boluses are not limited to boosts, since I've had the bolus since the first treatment. I get a total of four daily bolus zaps: two zaps with it on the left and two zaps with it on the right, in addition to the numerous other zaps in all fields without it. What it's supposed to do is keep the radiation actually in your skin, instead of it hitting slightly below. Dunno yet how much bolus I'll get with the boosts, but I guess I'll find out soon enough...

    20/33 for me today, and YES!! ENOUGH ALREADY! I'm ready for the weekend -- two days of NOT having to drive 60 miles -- or ANYWHERE for that matter! I almost think the driving is the worst part of this (tied for #1 with the driving or a close second would be the fatigue). I just hit the 15,000 miles on my car "milestone" yesterday. But this will actually show you how much I dislike driving and that I only do it when ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY: Shuttlecraft T'Kiri is a 2006 Toyota Corolla and I got her brand new, and now it's 2011, and I only just reached 15,000 miles. This is also the first year I've put on more than 2,000 to 2,500 miles -- thanks to a 300 mile move, a couple times letting my Pack Rat use the car, the fact that the supermarket is now 12 miles away from where I live instead of 2 like at my former residence, lots of doctor appointments and the med center being 60 miles round trip that I have to drive instead of 4 with THEIR transportation van (my former cancer center had transportation service for patients) and now the Mon-Fri rads, the miles are now starting to pile on. Believe it or not though, I'm actually way better off living here than I was before, and even though I still don't like to drive, at least I'm not so totally scared shitless of it anymore like where I was before.

    Yup I'm going to enjoy being able to stay home this weekend. :-) I wonder if I'll have the energy to go for a walk.......

  • LeeLee3
    LeeLee3 Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2011

    Hi Ladies,

    I had my first boost on yesterday (Friday) and have been experiencing quite a bit of pain in my breast and what feels like my chest bone (I dunno - behind my breast, I guess...)  Anybody know if this is normal?  I already had problems with armpit and it feels worse; but had never had any pain in my breast before yesterday.  It's not unbearable or constant, and of course, I'll ask the RO on Monday, but just wondering if anybody felt worse from the boost, than the whole breast radiation?

    Thanks! 

  • stage1
    stage1 Member Posts: 475
    edited August 2011
    LeeLee3  During that time, I had all kinds of pains, shooting pains, they said due to rads, nerves can send the pains in various places, like the underarm or anywhere in the breast.  After rads and after my boosts, I got more shooting pains and then they subsided within a week or so.  They said the rads continue working for a couple weeks after you're done.
  • LeeLee3
    LeeLee3 Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2011

    Hi stage1, - O.k. just wondering because I haven't felt this kind of pain in my breast since right after having the lumpectomy.  Thanks for the info!

  • GiGiL
    GiGiL Member Posts: 928
    edited August 2011

    I had 19 /33 yesterday. Not rallying energy-wise as quickly this weekend. How is everyone else doing?

  • mamaoftwo
    mamaoftwo Member Posts: 267
    edited August 2011

    I have had 17/28 and my breast is bright pink.  Also bright pink on the side of my chest below the armpit.  It is very uncomfortable.  i have a rash on my chest that, so far, the prescription ointment I was given seems to control.  I hope I can make the last 11 treatments; it's getting discouraging.  Fortunately have no nips because recon isn't done yet and do not feel fatigued, just discouraged about the skin issues.

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    No energy for me this weekend either. I don't clean my house and I don't cook anymore either and don't think I will until my energy comes back (ohgarsh how long will that take? I thought I read a month after finishing rads...a whole month!). Except for the fact that rads aren't interfering with the taste of food, my current eating habits are a lot like when I was doing chemo.....breakfast cereal, instant oatmeal, microwaved canned soup, yogurt, various fruits and sandwiches -- and lots of paper plates so I don't have to do dishes more than once every 2-3 days. Oh, there's something here I didn't have where I was before I moved (which was where I was when I was on chemo) -- a store on the way home from rads has takeout fried chicken, so occasionally I stop there and get a couple drumsticks or thighs, bring 'em home and put 'em on a paper plate. I think that, and the oatmeal, are the only HOT meals I've had in maybe 3 weeks so far.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone:  Here we go again with another Monday and another week of rads.  To make things worse, it raining heavily here.  Good luck this week.  I hope the SE's are few and mild.

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