June 2011 A/C & T Groupies Unite!
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Stephanie - I second BobbieJo's sentiments regarding your son's service. This has been brought home even more with the shooting down of the Seals' helicopter. It's an unfortunate reminder of the extreme danger that our service men and women face each and every day.
BobbieJo - yup, just a quick look at the list of discussions under this forum. I'll give you chemo brain....lol!
Michelle
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Stephanie - may your son be safe...
Bobbie Jo - I did the TC before surgery - I started the April TC thread - it is not as bad as the AC and T regimen.
And, I am off to get my between week labs and have a discussion - Michelle - I wrote down what you had listed and I am not going to do that again. Bobbie Jo is right- 8 days of nausea is stupid...... And, I will make sure that I get some IV fluid before the next push. I am still going to talk to the doctor when he comes back........
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Awesome Stephanie! Getting to see your son.
I hope you with the nausea issues get them worked out with the doc. I didn't have those issues, so I think my doc has a good protocol in place. She is also very insistant that I call if ANYTHING is wrong. Sooo....
I called today with a new side effect! Today is day 8 after first Taxol. I woke up with a rash all over my trunk (belly and back), thighs, back of knees, inside of arms, top of hands. Itchy, blotchy, red, raised. The nurse told me it can happen with Taxol. She wants me to take Benedryl and use some 1% hydrocortisone. I need to stay on top of the doses today and if it's not relieved by tomorrow to call back before the weekend. Bleh. It's not insane itching, but a low level of constant itch. I need to run out for the Benedryl (what I had in the cabinet expired 2006!) and had the cream on hand. I used the cream less than an hour ago and have relief already. I'm not a fan of Benedryl, but I'll take it as I'm told.
Now, a bit of TMI SE. Several days ago I had some slight constipation which physically irritated me. So now things have changed to really soft stools which are irritating my irritation! I had to deal with constipation from surgery and pain meds before chemo, but that was short lived and non-irritating. The chemo is taking me back to my post-partum days and I needed to buy some Tucks pads! I'm not sure if it's a hemorrhoid or fissures. (sigh) I'll be so glad to get my fast reproducing cells back! I didn't have this issue with AC. Normally I'm very regular and, shall I say, balanced. I'm not sure if this is a Taxol thing or a cumulative chemo thing.
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Paula, Taxol definitely can make you constipated. I had a big problem with constipation & irritation from my first Taxol. For Taxol #2 I took 2 senna tabs the night before & on days 1 & 2. That seemed to help. I did find that my stools were loose about days 4-5 & then seemed to return to normal. Now on A/C, I've had loose stools every day since infusion #1 two weeks ago. (I'm actually in the chair right now for A/C #2.) But, for me, I'd rather be loose than constipated. I hate that feeling.
When I had irritation, I used Butt Paste, which I had left over from when my son was in diapers. That won't help with a hemorrhoid or fissure, but it will help with the general irritation in the area.
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My Oncology Dietitian recommended me to take Organic Acacia Fiber (I bought Heather's Tummy Fiber) because it regulates naturally bowel motility (alleviating both diarrhea AND constipation). I take just ½ tbs with my smoothie daily.
Paula - If you wind up with diarrhea try the flushable moist wipes; they really help with general soft tissue irritation (Scott Naturals Green Done Right Flushable Wipes). I bought them at Amazon. Try using flushable moist wipes the first few days after chemo to prevent the discomfort/burning that may accompany urination; these may help soothe irritated tissues. You may also use a squirt bottle with warm water. I recommend using Vaseline or a diaper rash ointment as a barrier for a week or two after chemo. It also helps with the dry skin in that area. Taking precautions several days in advance for constipation will help you to avoid bleeding hemorrhoids associated with straining.
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Bobbie Jo - A nurse told me: "In this day and age there is no reason for a patient to suffer from nausea and vomiting. Anti-nausea drugs have all but eliminated the constant vomiting that once accompanied chemotherapy. Be proactive and take your medicine as prescribed. Your Oncologist has an arsenal of drugs to choose from so if the first one doesn't work request another". Well, in my case these drugs may eliminate constant vomiting, but not the nausea and the "I want to puke" feeling I have had the last 3 days after AC infusion. Maybe I have not found which is the right combination for me and it seems that I will finish AC without knowing "what woks for me"
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Ralston - So sorry to hear that you continue to suffer with nausea. I just got home from AC #2. My onco gave me Compazine, so I'm hoping that will help me. Time will tell...
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Well, I can't say that I didn't have the occasional nauseous feeling, but I did find that small frequent meals helped give me some relief. I always felt better after I ate something. I call it "angry stomach" and it's a bit like morning sickness, in my opinion. I guess I had visions of constant puking, so anything less than that definitely exceeded my expectations! Sorry you are still struggling with nausea, it's such a crummy feeling!
Hugs,
Michelle
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Well... I went in.. and sat for two hours with an IV and 3 med push. That cut the nausea and headache down... somewhat. It was a 3 before I went in, now it is a 1....
I got two more prescriptions for the next round as well as a new set of drugs in the premeds. So, hopefully this will work.....
Lunch stayed down!
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Haven't posted for a long time. Just can't seem to make myself sit at the puter. I started doing some reading today to prepare for taxol. One more week and I'm heading for round three of AC.
Some things have me worried.
The list of foods posted that I shouldn't be eating.
After first AC I had tumeric twice in a stew. Have been taking multivitamin, but not every day. Also after round two I used a lot of mint tea. Only once this time though.
I read on one thread that three weeks between AC may be less effective than two. Especially for negatives. My biopsy indicated positives so hopefully that means the three weeks won't be much different than two. I asked for that schedule to have a week to be able to function. Hoping it wasn't a horrible mistake.
My 5 cc lump doesn't seem to be getting smaller almost two weeks out from round two. Has that been so for any of you?
I will try to read this thread more faithfully. Be easier than trying to catch up all at once. Problem is making myself get online at all!
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Haven't posted for a long time. Just can't seem to make myself sit at the puter. I started doing some reading today to prepare for taxol. One more week and I'm heading for round three of AC.
Some things have me worried.
The list of foods posted that I shouldn't be eating.
After first AC I had tumeric twice in a stew. Have been taking multivitamin, but not every day. Also after round two I used a lot of mint tea. Only once this time though.I read on one thread that three weeks between AC may be less effective than two. Especially for negatives. My biopsy indicated positives so hopefully that means the three weeks won't be much different than two. I asked for that schedule to have a week to be able to function. Hoping it wasn't a horrible mistake.
My 5 cc lump doesn't seem to be getting smaller almost two weeks out from round two. Has that been so for any of you?
I will try to read this thread more faithfully. Be easier than trying to catch up all at once. Problem is making myself get online at all!
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For those who are coming on board, just a quick rundown on another list of ses so far. Could be better, but could be lots worse.
Nausea is miserable, but no vomiting. As long as I eat at the least sign of hunger (including midnight snacks) it has been controllable. It only lasted a couple of days after treatment one and lasted almost a week and a half after #2. Hoping it doesn't get worse!
Extremely weak after #1 and didn't start feeling stronger until after more than a week and a half. Probably due to low blood cell counts until the neulasta brought them up. This time, after #2, the weakness isn't nearly as bad.
After round two I started having a racing pulse and LBP for a couple of days. What I can only describe as feeling on fire was unexpected. It lasted a couple of days - on and off. Maybe chemo hot flashes? Nothing like the difficult post menapause hot flashes I have had for years. Now I just find myself having some times of sweating; turning a fan on helps and it is a minor se.
Found it almost impossible to drink a lot. Any liquids seemed to trigger nausea. So not being hydrated enough likely added to the worst of the ses. Hopefully can take myself by the neck skuff and force myself to drink more after round 3.
Mouth feels slightly rough, but no sores. Small chemical burn on my bottom so I'm using wipes lavishly now to try and keep that under control.
Not much problem with indigestion.
Dry cough, especially when I try to talk much. Seems to be a dryness/irritation low in the throat or esophagus area.
Seems like eating meat helps keep nausea at bay more than anything. Not much appetite, but eating is essential!
Most of hair lost, but still have a baby hair look. Discovered my head shape isn't bad, though would be nice if it was a little fuller at the top/back of the skull. ;-)
Sleeping (between potty calls) to 4 or 5 or, rarely, 6 am. Can't sleep later or nap often.
So far it hasn't been great but am hoping it doesn't get a lot worse. It's not fun, but do-able.
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I skimmed the posts and can't add much that hasn't been answered. Someone asked if anyone had breast pain with neo. Yes, not bad, but definite twinges of pain off and on.
Ralson, this may be a non-issue, because your post was awhile back. They gave me zolfan in a melt on your tongue form so it hit the bloodstream fast. Was a nuisance for me because I wasn't vomiting and had to really work to dredge up enough saliva to melt it. But if you still have vomiting, it might help.
I'm a stay at home housewife (kids raised and have grandkids) so have the luxury of watching Dvds (can't seem to focus on reading. We spurged on netflix (streaming only) It's ok, but many of the good shows you have to sign up for the more expensive membership and get them in the mail. Maybe when I run through all the streaming ones.
A question for those on taxol. I'm on once a week for twelve weeks. Do you take the claritin when you get the infusion, or for the full time to prevent pain?
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3bells - sorry you are having a rough time. Hydration is definitely vital right now. Can you eat watermelon, grapes, any of those "juicy fruits"? It will definitely help you get your quota of liquids.
Hugs,
Michelle
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Bobbi Jo and Ralston, thank you! I feel better about addressing my irritation--whatever it actually is.
My taxol rash has not subsided! Unless it miraculously disappears, the same way it appeared this morning, I will be calling my doc in the morning!
3bells, I had a very hard time with liquids on AC. Thank goodness it's not nearly as bad on taxol. I tried to eat more 'juicy fruits' to help me along. Even ice cream! I've been taking claritin for several days: infusion day to maybe day 4 or 5. But I go every 2 weeks.
I forgot to tell you all my eyebrows are thinning! Not gone, but thinner and patchy. I'm sad because I have good eyebrows without help from brow color. I rarely feel like putting on makeup to help me out now; maybe after chemo is done. My 7yo did suggest I get fake eyebrows if I really want to!
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10 hours at Fox Chase Cancer Center today! Ugh. I was in the chair for 5 hours. Lots of pre-meds. Zofran, Benaderyl, Ativan, Decadron over an hour, then heceptin over 90 minutes, an hour wait for potential SEs, then Taxol over 90 minutes. They stuck me 4 friggin times, and missed the port 3 times! Going to see another MO tomorrow and want to visit the chemo room. My eye lids are swollen and they said I'll loose my lashes and eyebrows. 1 down, 11 to go.
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Oh Rose, that sounds like a miserable experience! Why on earth did they miss the port? I'd be one unhappy camper, for sure! I do expect to be in the chair for 4-5 hours on Wedneday. They told me that Taxol itself takes 3 hours. I guess that's the difference between every week and every two week. I'm guessing the pre-meds take the same time, so I am not unhappy to be on the every two week plan.
I've heard about Taxol/Taxotere rash...not looking forward to the possibility of an allergic reaction. But I intend to enjoy my weekend and not think about it too much.
Hope everyone has a comfortable day,
Michelle
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Michelle, other than a really runny nose, and swollen eyelids, I really feel pretty good. I'm praying it stays that way! I already have some eyebrow hair and lashes coming out. I wanted to tell you that my onc said icing doesnt work, and it may actually cause nerve damage if not watched closely. I posted on the June chemo thread about the vitamins she suggested.
3Bells, the dry cough is probably silent reflux. If it's bothersome, try some OTC Prilosec.
BobbieJo, hope your days are getting better.
I'm trying to get up off my butt and move around, so shutting the computer off more! Feels great.
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Rose - I think there are conflicting opinions about icing, just like everything else. I've already discussed this with my chemo nurse and she has no problem with it. I am definitely using bags of peas/corn/whatever is cheap along with the supplements that have been mentioned. Neuropathy is a big deal, especially for a diabetic. And it may help prevent the nails from lifting off the nailbed, which is really painful.
I'm going for labs today in advance of Wednesday's chemo. They are doing a tumor marker test. I'd like to see something lower than my numbers before surgery and four rounds of AC. Let's hope!!! I'll get the results on Wednesday - it takes a few days for the test results.
Michelle
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Rose - So sorry to hear about your troubles! I can't believe they had to stick your port more than once, let alone FOUR times! Why??? Doesn't make sense to me.
Michelle - I think I told you before that I had zero problems with my nails or neuropathy while on Taxol, but I can certainly understand & appreciate your proactive approach given your diabetes. I hope it works for you.
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Bobbie Jo, I'm so very sorry to hear that your sister is also going through this, especially since you two can't be together. But I'm sure you are with each other in spirit and by email, etc. I hope your AC#2 goes better for you. And thank you very, very much for your post on my CaringBridge site. It's so encouraging to get Guestbook posts.
Michelle, I did enjoy my week off, very much. And I think it has certainly helped me get through AC#3. Time will tell since I just had it yesterday. But I took a little nap yesterday, then went to eat at Furr's and went to see a movie - The Help. I read the book, and both the book and movie are wonderful! I prefer the book, of course. But the movie really brought it to life. I'm glad you got an extra week off as well. Not glad for the reason, but I know the break was nice.
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Michelle, I totally understand your worries as a diabetic. As a nurse, I've seen many people with permanent nerve damage from using ice packs. Stick to 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off, and check you skin integrity for color and feel.
I find the doctors varying opinions difficult!
BobbieJo, is your sister on the boards? I'll be praying for her!
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Michelle, after reading all the posts I had dh get some watermelon and am enjoying it. I think it will work during the bad days. Hard to figure how much liquid to add to a quota though.
Paula, I hoped I would read that your rash was better today. The rash is one thing I have to not let myself worry about. I tend to have allergic reactions. One hive both times in reaction to the adramycin. Second time half way through the injection. If the added benedryl hadn't brought it down they wouldn't have been able to finish the dose. Best thing, to call your doc. Praying that they can get it under control for you.
Rose, it's hard to believe they could miss the port once. Three times is nasty! Not a good first time. You must have been exhausted just from the experience, not just the chemo. Hopefully ses will be few!
Thanks for the info on silent reflux. I hadn't heard of that. I have the prilosec generic in my "in case" stash. I don't want to chance acid reflux burns so maybe I should try it.Has anyone heard recently from singlemom? I remember her from when I was "on board" earlier in July and have been praying for her. Maybe she just can't fit the forums into everything else she has to handle.
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The good news: my bum is feeling better! Thank goodness.
The bad news: my rash is worse! My doc called in some steroid pack and I'm waiting to call my pharmacy to see if it's ready. Great. I get to be stuffed with steroids! Oh well. It was agreed it was an allergic reaction to taxol. I don't know if she'll change anything next infusion or what. All I'm concerned with now is getting relief! I am miserable from the itching. I woke up with my scalp full of the rash, some on my face, and worse on the other places (entire torso, thighs, inner arms, neck, chest). I keep thinking my rash looks like a case study photo you find when googling! One of my eyes is also puffy. So that might mean my lashes might fall out on that eye? I'll look so dreamy!! Both my young daughters are insisting I wear a head cover, as the head rash looks so awful. Husband, on the other hand, didn't seem to notice! I'm not sure which reaction I prefer....
Apparently the allergic reaction rash is not typical. I'm wondering if my other reactions were stronger than typical SE's, too. So don't be afraid based on my account!
Rose, I'd be pissed if they missed my PORT three times! I mean, the port is there to prevent that stuff. As much as I hate my port, I'm grateful for it as well.
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Hello ladies, I'm late to the party, but I spent this morning reading through this whole thread, and want to thank you for all the great advice. (I've been over on the Triple Neg thread, but I don't post much because I only have IPhone access right now)
I started neo-adjunc chemo 6\1 with 12 weekly Taxol then 4 DD AC. This Wed. will be my last Taxol, so I found you because I was looking for AC info (and I found it in spades, thank you ladies!!)
I do have a question for the group, and I have a reason I'm asking. As I read through the thread I saw some of you mention "boot camp chemo", "nurse navigators" and other ways you were prepared for chemo. Could you tell me a little more how each of your facilities prepared you?
I'm a nurse and getting my tx at Dana Farber, which is a world class cancer facility (waves hi to Michelle) but I'm astounded by something. Would you like to know what information I got to inform me before chemo? NADA, NIL, ZILCH!!!! (I did grab a secretary who hunted up a booklet for me). I've also run into some other misinformation that could have been a problem if I didn't have a great infusion nurse.
So ladies, please tell me how you were educated by your facilities. I have been keeping a journal, and plan with meeting with somebody in administration about this problem -
Kathrynn, Welcome! I,too, received next to no chemo training. I did get a paper about both A/C & Taxol when I went for my first infusion which listed SEs & such. That's a little late, in my opinion. I would have liked to have that info. before I started. But, I'm not one to rely completely on my doctor's opinions & advice anyway. I always research before I get into any medical situation, so I had a pretty good background of information going into treatment. So, to answer your question, I did my own research, much of which (& perhaps the most valuable) came from these boards. To get the info. firsthand from those living it has been a gift.
Rose - To my knowledge my sister is not yet on the boards. I keep telling her how wonderful it is to have the online support, so maybe she'll jump aboard one of these days.
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I met with my gynecologist today to get her opinion on having my tubes & ovaries removed. She said that with my HUGE family history & the fact that I have a 2-3 cm on my right ovary right now that hasn't changed since my last ultrasound a month ago, she thinks I should definitely have the surgery. Still mulling it over, but am leaning towards having the procedure.
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Boobie Jo - Are you considering the Laparoscopic Ovary Removal?
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Ralston, Yes. Laparoscopic Salpingo-Oophorectomy (tubes & ovaries).
Funny! Do your realize that you spelled my name "Boobie" Jo? Hee hee!
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Kathrynn - are you going to DF in Boston or one of the other locations? I have to say that my chemo nurse sat down with me for an hour a day or two before treatment, explained everything thoroughly, and gave me a tour of the infusion center. She gave me documents with all the SEs for every drug, and I had to sign off authorizing treatment with each drug. And at every treatment, she tells me exactly what she is doing or about to do or just did! No shortcuts with this nurse, and I am grateful! Plus they double and triple check everything, from who I am to what I get. PM me if you want to talk further.
Rose - I understand your concern about "freezer burn"
I do not plan to apply the cold directly to my skin and promise to be watchful! I certainly don't want to create bigger problems than I might have otherwise. I have noticed my feet are just a little tingly after AC#4, something I didn't notice before. I don't notice it when I'm up and about, but when I sit and relax with my feet up, it's there.
3bells - glad the watermelon trick is working for you and you are enjoying it. I've been taking generic Prilosec since the second AC, every night.
Paula - sorry about the rash...it's not shingles, is it? Any blisters? I can't even imagine how miserable you must be!
Speaking of missing the port, I went to DF today for labwork. Usually we do it the day of treatment after my port has been accessed, but I asked for a CA27.29 test so we decided to do it today. Well, the poor nurse somehow barely got my tiny little shallow vein. And it barely gave up the first two tubes, and dribbled the third. She had to milk the vein and apologized the whole time about the bruise that I would have. It's not the worst one ever, but it's definitely much more than normal. Well later I got a vmail that the third tube had clotted (the one for the CBC) so now I have to go in a little earlier on Wednesday so they can redo that one. Not nearly as badas missing the port 3 times, just a little misadventure!
Hugs,
Michelle
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