June 2011 A/C & T Groupies Unite!

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  • barbj1963
    barbj1963 Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2011

    Hi fellow Junies!

    I've been following this thread, and decided to post my experience.  I had my annual mammo in Dec. 2010, which showed nothing, but I have dense breasts.  I found the lumps the first week of May, 2011. I have invasive mammary carcinoma, both breasts.  Both tumors started out 2-3 cm at the time of the biopsy, and then when the PET scan was done 2 weeks later, they were 5+cm.  Then, by the time chemo was started a week and half later, in June, they were 6+cm.  Very rapid growing, so I had to go with chemo first.  

    I've been thru 4 rounds of AC...pretty much breezed thru it, except for a fever one weekend that landed me in the ER.  No infection, just a reaction to the Neulasta.  I started Taxol (4 rounds) this last Tues..and by Thurs, I had such bad neuropathy in my legs from the waist down.  Pain and tingling waist down, legs felt like they weighed 100 lbs each, and felt like they could give out at any minute.  Called the Dr., and am now on Neurontin and Tramadol...I was trying to take Percocet, and they said narcotics don't work very well for nerve pain, so the Tramadol helps. Meds worked right away, which is good.  I've been told I will have to put up with this the whole time, and that it takes awhile to go away after the Taxol is done. Guess that's what I get for breezing thru the AC!!  If you are having side effects, don't hesitate to call your Dr.....seems they have something for any SE that shows up along the way!

    Will have BMX in mid Oct., radiation, and then reconstruction.  Long road to recovery, but we can do this!! 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Welcome, Barbj!  Your Taxol/neuropathy story is a bit scary.  Glad the drugs have given you some relief.  

    Hoping everyone is able to enjoy the rest of the weekend!

    Michelle

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    I came across this today and found it very interesting.  I'm guessing you will, too:

    http://foodforbreastcancer.com/articles/what-should-breast-cancer-patients-eat-during-adriamycin-%28doxorubicin%29-chemotherapy%3f

    Keep eating that watermelon!

    Michelle

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Michelle -  According to the  WebMD, Curcumin, the main component of Turmeric, may prevent some chemotherapy medicines, especially those used for breast cancer (including Adriamycin), from working. I was told by my Naturopath at the Cancer Treatment and Wellness Center of America to be really careful when I eat out to make sure my food do not contain Turmeric (that is one of the reasons I try to prepared always my own meals). There is so much info on the web (a lot of it is not updated) that we can get confused or misinformed. I suggest consulting always with your ON before you change your diet.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Yes, I agree that we should always discuss dietary changes with our medical team.

    I only suggested we eat watermelon Wink

    Michelle

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Breakfast:  Carmel greek yogurt with almonds, raspberries, & blueberries AND a DELICIOUS cup of coffee!  All is right in my world once again!  (Until Thursday, but we won't go there until Thursday!)

    Hoping that you all can enjoy your favorites today! 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Yeahhh Bobbie Jo!  My coffee tasted much better this morning, too.  I think the funky taste has pretty much gone away.  Your breakfast sounds yummy, I eat a lot of Greek yogurt with berries.  This morning, though, I had the other half of my florentine eggs benedict from yesterday.  I so need to hit the grocery store today.

    Hope everyone has a good day!

    Michelle

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011

    I've been eating cream of wheat. First thing in the morning before I take my meds I eat a bowl of it, it has no offensive odor or texture and it can handle the medications. Sometimes I eat it for dinner when nothing sounds palatable. I make it with carnation evaporated milk for the extra calories and nutrients. It's been a lifesaver!

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited August 2011

    Mmmm...cream of wheat!  I have and love it, but forgot about it.  And the melons!  They are good.

    It's day 6 since 1st Taxol.  I am plain tired.  Not much joking on infusion day (I think my MO was surprised) and not much chatting.  I couldn't sleep the first 2 nights but I finally caught up on it this weekend.  I think I slept 13 hours straight Sat night-Sunday.  I am grateful I can drink fluids OK again, but WOW--the muscle and bone aches!  I swear I've already forgotten what the AC SEs felt like and now Taxol feels, just WOW.  I feel like I can do more than I did on AC (like housekeeping).  On Taxol I'm just the tin man needing a little oil; on AC my body 'broke down' if I did too much.  Too much is all relative...  I am a little worried about the neuropathy.  My feet did feel slightly tingly.  So I do believe I will get some frozen peas and chill my feet (maybe the hands) the next infusions.   My MO and nurses seem to have never heard of icing though.

    I think I might have enough wits about me to get back to some meal planning.  I've been soooo off track and have gained a little since chemo started.  Not big changes, just rebalancing.  School starts next week so I've been working on the supply lists, haircuts, seeing if clothes fit, filling in calendar, etc.  I'm looking forward to being back in a routine. 

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited August 2011

    Cider8. You have answered my questions about Taxol. I've been wondering what it will be like compared to AC. I did ask, but no one responded. I think I asked on the triple positive page. I have my last AC tomorrow and hopefully will start Taxol and Herceptin in two weeks.

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone - help....

    I did 4 rounds of TC before surgery and now, after they found another lump in the sentinal node, back for AC and T...

    I did my first round of AC last week... I was in the ER on Sunday with a pounding headache and non-stop vomiting.  The ER gave me fluids and gave me meds to cut it, but they did not go away. THen, back to oncologist on Monday- nothing but "this happens once in awhile..."

    So, I have a low nagging headache.  A constant queasy, ready to vomit feeling, and my nose smells bleach -seriously...

    Anyone else? 

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011

    Yes! I have experience with the cytoxan headaches! The bleach smell is part of it.



    I found that having do the infusion a little slower helped.



    I also had all the anti nausea meds onboard via premeds and went home with zofran and Ativan. And used them always through AC.



    I'm sorry your going through this, I had a really hard time on AC. But I hunkered down and made it a point to do what I could to improve my situation until I saw the light at the end and sprinted outta there! :) on to taxol now.



    Be thinking about you.

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Pebee - I also have a low nagging headache that comes and goes and it last 5 days after the infusion. I think is because my red blood count is getting lower with each treatment. My nose doesn't smells bleach, but smells everything else. Now it is extra-super-sensitive.  Interesting, after my second AC infusion I didn't have the "nasty" taste. Not complaining! Just wonder why?

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited August 2011

    Pebee, sorry you've had to experience that! I never vomitted, but had nausea for 7 days. My nose runs continuously, and I do have the smell/taste for days. Ask them to add compazine and decadron. Although I had all the meds, I was still was nauseaous. Feel better!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Pebee - are you getting Emend for nausea?  If not, ask for it...no, insist on it!  It's amazing! 

    I also have the super-sensitive nose going on.  The grocery store is brutal!  And there is something in my fridge that is driving me nuts, although I've searched high and low for it and added a container of baking soda.  I'm going to have to figure that out tomorrow.

    Michelle

  • TSB1
    TSB1 Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2011

    Michelle, do you take the first emend before you leave to get your chemo or that night?





  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    TSB1 - they give me the Emend as part of my pre-meds while I am getting IV hydration.  I take the package and then take one the next two mornings.

    Michelle

  • TSB1
    TSB1 Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2011

    Thanks Michelle. I realized I didn't clarify with my doc and I was going to call him tomorrow and ask. I appreciate it.

    Theresa 

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited August 2011

    Thank you everyone - I have my followup appointment this Thursday and then next week - another round.  I think we will talk to the oncologist.  First, Thank you for the Emend recommendation - I had never heard of it.  I am taking Zofran and it is not touching it. So even though the chemo PA insists that it should work, it is not......

    Today is Wednesday- day 7.  I managed to choke down some oatmeal and then the headache, nausea, and smell came back.  My eyes hurt - they feel like there is bleach in them.  How long does this last for everyone?  I think I can make it through if I know that it will be done by day x...

    I do need to talk to the doc - I had Taxotere and Cytoxin before surgery.  Now, I am getting Cytoxin again - after surgery.  The side effect management is not working -and if I am going to end up in the ER every other weekend, then I need to know and we need to take steps towards getting some things in place.  From what all of you are saying - it is the Cytoxin that causes the effects and I am on the maximum drip time for that already because I had it before.....

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited August 2011

    Oh Pebee, I hope today is the last day of nausea for you. The longest I had was 7 days, but by the 7th day I was able to eat carbs in SMALL amounts. My eyes still feel like razor blades when I blink. I was told that would stop since I am done AC. Can you call the MO office? There has to be another doctor on call other than the PA.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Pebee - another thing to ask your MO...if Zofran isn't working, ask about getting Aloxi IV as a premed while you are getting hydration before the Cytoxan.  Then you will need a RX for Compazine, as Aloxi is similar to Zofran.  If one hasn't worked, it's time to try something different. 

    This has been my pre-med protocol:  scopolamine patch applied at home the day of treatment, Emend, 6 mg of Decadron, Aloxi via IV and one hour of IV hydration. Then I take Emend for two days following treatment.   I have had very little nausea.  I have Compazine and Ativan for backup.  I've taken only a couple of each in total over my 4 AC's so I feel my protocol has been very effective.

    And I have not had any headaches or eye problems, with the exception that I wear monovision contact lenses and I have had to switch to my glasses for several days after treatment.  My chemo-brain doesn't seem to want to perform monovision duties!

    Michelle

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Pebee and Southamptomom

    When I realize that my eyes where sore because of the AC, I checked right away the ON recommendations to relieve SE's. Since then I have been using Dry Eye Relief (Similasan 100% Natural Active Ingredients) that relieves dryness and redness, soothes and moisturizes my eyes. I also wore sun glasses when I was using the computer or watching TV (just until I didn't feel pain anymore).  Well, it worked! My eyes are not sore anymore and also my headaches are gone.

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited August 2011

    Heading for the first of 12 weekly Taxol/Herceptin tomorrow. A little nervous...

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited August 2011

    Had my last AC today. And ya know what's really awesome? I had the steroids so late in the day that now I can't sleep. I was hoping to work tomorrow. ugh. Other than that, I feel fabulous.

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited August 2011

    I'm a little behind in my reading and posting but Ralston, thank you so much for your tip on the eye treatment.  For two weeks, I have had major struggles with my eyes.  They are so irritated and water and run all the time (along with the nose).  I can't even hold them open without having to squint.  Every day I look like I've been crying.  My co-worker even asked me what's wrong.  I told her it's just my eyes, they're irritated.  She didn't believe me and told me she's there for me if I need to talk, lol!  Sweet girl.

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited August 2011

    Well, today is my third AC.  I got last week off to see my son home from his year-long tour in Afghanistan.  It has been such a wonderful week!  I feel so close to normal already, it's amazing.  But here we go again.  I didn't even want to go to bed last night because that would make today come even faster, lol!  Sad how it gets you down emotionally as well as physically.  But thank God for you all and your positive attitudes.  We're blessed to have each other!  Happy days to all of you!

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Heading to the chair today for A/C #2.  I am INSISTING on Compazine or Zofran or something else to aid with breakthrough nausea.  I'm not going to deal with 8 days of it again this time!

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Many of you may or may not know this, but my sister is also going through BC right now, too.  She lives in S.C., so unfortunately we can't be together.  :(  She is starting her chemo next week.  She'll have 4 treatments of Taxotere & Cytoxin with each treatment 3 weeks apart.  Does anyone know if there is a thread specifically for this treatment regimen (or at least for this drug combo)?  I looked but did not see anything.

    Thanks! 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    BobbieJo - this should help your sister, this group started in June, same as us:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/770105?page=8#idx_212 

    And good for you to insist on more anti-nausea meds!!!  If they are not giving you an hour of hydration prior to the Adriamycin push, insist on it!  It's better to sit there a little while longer and be properly hydrated.  And the Adriamycin push should be done nice and slow.

     Good luck today, hoping you have a much better experience!

    And Stephanie, I was forced into a week off from chemo due to low WBC and I must say, I enjoyed my week.  I felt really good that week and "got over" the idea that it was pushing out my finish date.  It was very worthwhile.  Glad you were able to spend precious time with your son!  Wishing you a good experience today!

    Hugs to everyone,

    Michelle

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Michelle - Bless your heart!  Thanks!  I didn't even think to do a search, which I bet is how you found that so fast.  Duh!  I blame chemo brain!  (Hey, use it when you can, right???)

    I do get hydration before the push, & they push slowly.  Here's hoping that the only missing piece to my puzzle is another anti-nausea med for those breakthrough moments!

    Stephanie - I said this in your CaringBridge journal, but I'll say it again.  MANY THANKS to your son for his unselfish service to our country.  And thanks to you & your husband for enduring the separation from him as he services in Afghanistan.  I can't even imagine...THANK YOU! 

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