June 2011 A/C & T Groupies Unite!

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  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited August 2011

    Michelle, that was me that posted on the ricotta. Just wanted to add that you have me singing :

    There's got to be a morning after
    If we can hold on through the night
    We have a chance to find the sunshine
    Let's keep on lookin' for the light

    Oh, can't you see the morning after
    It's waiting right outside the storm
    Why don't we cross the bridge together
    And find a place that's safe and warm

    It's not too late, we should be giving
    Only with love can we climb
    It's not too late, not while we're living
    Let's put our hands out in time

    There's got to be a morning after
    We're moving closer to the shore
    I know we'll be there by tomorrow
    And we'll escape the darkness
    We won't be searchin' any more

    There's got to be a morning after
    (There's got to be a morning after)

     This should be our BC graduation song!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Oops, sorry Rose!

    That song is from The Poseidon Adventure - I remember it was a big hit.  Here's the Youtube video for you youngsters who might not remember this song:

    http://youtu.be/bcLazPauA1c

    Great lyrics!  Good choice!

    Michelle

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Just got back from getting my Neulasta shot.  Had quite a time with the insurance approval...they said I could have it in an infusion center (which my regional Dana Farber clinic is exactly that) but DF codes the bill as a hospital outpatient service.   At one point this morning we had 3 lines in the house working this issue.  I had one in each hand (one to DF and one to my insurance case manager) and DH had one to his human resources benefits person.  It was almost amusing, if it weren't so damn frustrating.  In any case, we got it approved and I immediately went for the shot.

    I am feeling really pretty good today.  I hope the other shoe doesn't drop tomorrow.  As much as I hated adding a week on to the length of the treatment, the week off made a world of difference.

    Heading to the grocery store!

    Michelle

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    I just got back from my mid-cycle lab check.  My white counts are dropping, but we're in a "wait & see" mode in the hopes that the Neulasta will do it's job & boost them back up.

    I saw one of my favorite nurses for my visit today, & I told her about the time I've had with the nausea (which is better today, by the way).  She asked me if the Zofran didn't help.  When I told her I didn't get any because the nurse practitioner told me to give the Decadron a chance, she about fell over.  You could see the shock on her face.  She said she'd go get me a script, but I told her I'm ok now, but when I return next week for treatment #2, I want something (Zofran, Compazine, ANYTHING) before I leave!  I think the problem last week was that the doctor was out of town & the nurse practitioner was running the show.  Not that NPs aren't competent individuals by any means, but I think, in this case anyway, there is a disconnect between how they (the NP & MD) do things.  Much to my dismay...

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    BobbieJo - what was the NP thinking???  You should have grabbed the script today...a bird in the hand, as they say Wink  

    Keeping my fingers crossed that Neulasta does its job for both of us!

    Michelle

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Boobie Jo - I can't believe it!!! I had my second AC on Tuesday. They gave IV Decadron, Ativan, and Zofran. This time I did much much better. Day 2, I took 8 mg of Decadron, 8mg of Zofran and 2 Aleve before my Neulasta shot. I felt pretty normal most of the day. Day 3, I just took 8mg of Zofran and I am not having any SEs, so far. Drinking a lot of smoothies and organic juices.

    Michelle - I do use Elasto-Gel Hypothermia Gloves and Slippers to reduce onycholysis (nail loss) and skin toxicity, as well as special oil for my nails. I am planning to keep trying as well as the Cold Caps. Happy to report:  It's Day 17 and I still have all my hair!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Ralston - I looked at those gel gloves.  They are quite pricey and you need more than one set for a 3 hour infusion.  At least, they seemed pricey on Amazon.  Do you have some other source?   And what is the "special" oil for your nails?  I was thinking of using bags of peas/corn/whatever as they would be inexpensive and re-freezable for this purpose.  That's great about the hair.  If it hangs in there for a few more days, I'd call your cold caps a huge success!

    Michelle

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Michelle - You can use ice chips, gel packs, cold packs or bags of frozen peas because they are cheap and easy to get. You just place the frozen bags of peas on your finger & toe nails 15 minutes before your Taxol infusion starts and change them every 45 minutes during infusion.

    This are the tips the nurse gave me to keep my toenails healthy during treatment and recovery:

    -Clip toenails straight across, keeping them short. Avoid cutting cuticles; this can be a source of infection. Use a cuticle cream instead.

    -Keep your nails clean and moisturized. If you do a pedicure, sterilize your tools in bleach and water beforehand, to prevent infections.

    -Soaking your nails in or massaging the nail with oil, such as vegetable or olive oils, helps to replace moisture lost from water exposure. These natural oils lack the alcohol- containing fragrance that is often found in commercial nail products.

    -Fragile nails may be strengthened with biotin, a water-soluble B-complex vitamin, at 5 mg per day. Tea tree oil can be used for fungal infections in toenails, if those occur.

    -Try to avoid injury to your toes, as bruises will heal very slowly.

    -Wear open-toed or comfortable wide-toed shoes, to improve circulation and provide protection for loose or fragile toenails.

    -If your nails break or lift off, try to keep them clean and protected. Covering the nail with a band-aid can protect it from trauma. Clean with soap and warm water and apply an antibiotic ointment twice a day.

    -If the nail or nail bed appears infected (there is redness, swelling, warmth to the touch), inform your healthcare team.

  • FGCUfan
    FGCUfan Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2011

    Back home from my 4th & final A/C!!  I must say this was the easiest of all, even better that the 1st which was a snap.   I actually had a shrimp dinner during my treatment today.  All my red meats got me up enough so no transfusion.  Tomorrow my last Neulasta.  I asked again  and was told no to the Neulasta because on a weekly Taxol there is no time to rebound.  No Emend since nausea "shouldn't be a problem"---but I still have my Zofran & Ativan.  Onc says that the only noticable SE will probably be achy bone pain similar to flu---think I'll stick to my Claritin.  I have a 3 week lay-off then start the 12 weekly Taxol, should start Aug. 25th!.   I'm ready!

    Love, luck, laughter, peace, prayers, & little SEs to all

    Suzanne

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited August 2011

    Yup, 6 hrs from seeing MO to leaving the infusion room.  Plenty of premeds.  I'm already feeling better in regards to drinking liquids.  My throat doesn't have that lump and I don't feel like I might have acid reflux.  Yay!  I could not sleep last night, though.  I don't know if some of it was rebound from Benedryl (I did not sleep during the day) or if it was all the steroid and the Taxol didn't knock me out like AC.  Ativan did nothing for me!  I made sure I took the claritin this morning.  I got my Neulasta shot this afternoon.   It's my MOs protocol to give it every time.  I also told her i did not want to get off schedule!  I'm not icing my nails, but I think I would if I were diabetic.  I'm keeping polish on my nails; someone on the boards said that can help.  

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Hmmm...I guess I am not going to get any steroids or benedryl until infusion day for Taxol because no one gave me any scripts or advice for anything and I don't go back to see the MO until my next infusion day. 

    Almost everyone is at least half way there...yeahhhh!!! Go us!!!

    Michelle

  • mommarch
    mommarch Member Posts: 584
    edited August 2011

    ask if they can give you Emend, it has worked great for me.  I take it 1 hour before chemo I am getting AC, had 3rd infussion today, and then I take one pill a day for two days.  No nausea.

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Michelle, I got the Benedryl & Decadron (steroid) as pre-meds & was also sent home with Decadron to take on days 2, 3, & 4.  I know you knocked back your amount of steroids while on A/C, but you may wish to discuss this with your MO for the Taxol as it does typically result in bone/muscle pain. The steroids may help with that somewhat.  I don't know.  And you're right...I should have taken the anti-nausea script yesterday!  What was I thinking???  (Obviously I wasn't!)

    Cider8, I found that I didn't sleep as well with the Taxol as I am with the A/C.  I wonder if your theory is correct?

    mommarch, if your post is for me & my nausea issue, I do take Emend.  I also take Decadron, but, alas, the nausea still got the best of me!! 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    BobbieJo - ask for an infusion of Aloxi or Zofran as a pre-med.  Then they can give you a script for compazine and ativan if you don't already have it.  And the scopolamine patch helps, too.  I put it on in the morning before treatment and leave it for the three days.  It makes you thirsty, which makes you drink more, which is a good thing.

    I already have osteoarthritis and take a hefty dose of Mobic (meloxicam) which is an anti-inflammatory drug.  I am guessing that it will help with any bone/muscle pain.  And I'll probably give the Claritin a try - does anyone else use it for Taxol?  I really want to limit steroids so that my blood sugar doesn't soar.  Right now it is staying nice and low (tested 89 this morning).  A rise in blood sugar due to steroids can contribute to neuropathy, so I'm trying to avoid that like the plague!

    Ugh...DH started getting sick yesterday.  He has swollen glands and can barely turn his head because his neck is swollen.  We haven't been here long enough to even make appointments with PCPs, with the focus on my specialists.  But he managed to get an appointment for this afternoon.  I hope it's not something contagious, that would be bad!  He didn't sleep all night, so I just drugged him with Hydrocodone with Tylenol.  I think it's working - he's starting to pass out in his recliner.  Hopefully he'll sleep for a couple of hours.  And hopefully he doesn't have any early morning conference calls.

    Michelle

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited August 2011

    Michelle, I hope DH is okay. It sounds like you need to avoid him for a few days! Hope he's comfie in the recliner ;) Keep us posted!

  • julee_stayin_strong
    julee_stayin_strong Member Posts: 52
    edited August 2011
    FCGU FAN- i want to hear how the Taxol goes, sounds like we are getting the same treatment. i have 2 A/C left and then go to Taxol. want to know how you feel, if you are just as tired on the Taxol or ??? also, nausea and insomnia??? i heard it makes your fingernails hurt??? and when we are on that, does that mean our white blood count will always be in the danger zone??? right now i only worry from day 5-10, i figure that is when my WBC is at it's lowest. So i am really carefull about going out in public and watch what i eat. let me know. Thanks!!!Smile
  • FGCUfan
    FGCUfan Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2011

    julee_stayin_strong,

    I'll certainly stay in touch & on board.  I had my final Neulasta today & will have my midweek blood work next Thur.  I expect WBC will be low but I just hope the Hgb will continue to climb.  After talking to the onc again yesterday, I'm planning to continue to take the Claritin the nite before the Taxol, the nite of & the next nite just as I did with the Neulasta.  At least it should help with the bone pain & we'll just have to see what the next few weeks bring!  Michelle is starting her Taxol before I do but she is going on a different plan of cycles but we should still get an idea of what's happening.  That's the best thing about this site, everyone shares whatever is happening & offers their best ideas.  Just stay tuned in!

    Love, luck, laughter, peace, prayers, & little SEs to all,

    Suzanne 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Rose - he went to the doctor, they took blood and sent him for xrays.  They did a quick strep test and that came back negative.  They are also doing the 24 hour strep test (which we probably won't hear about until Monday).  No fever at all.  They put him on steroids and sent him home.  He's sleeping now because he didn't sleep last night.  But I have to think the steroid buzz will set in and then he'll have trouble sleeping tonight.  I think it's going to be a long ugly weekend...lol!

    Julee - I'll be starting Taxol on 8/17 - DD every two weeks.  I was told by my MO that my WBC would not tank, I would not have much nausea, etc.  Sure hope she's right!  I'll be hoping to avoid large doses of steroids and based on what I'm reading here, I'll take the Claritin for a few days each cycle.  I already take meloxicam for arthritis and I think that has kept any additional bone pain at bay. 

    I think BobbieJo and Paula (cider8) did their Taxols first - weekly, if I recall correctly.  So they are our trailblazers. 

    Hugs,

    Michelle

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited August 2011

    Hi all. Heather here. I started AC on June 29th and finish next Weds. Then Taxol for 12 weeks. You are just full of information. I've been lurking here for a while and have gathered alot of insight. Recently I had constipation for a few days. Let it go too long. Now I know to nip it in the bud and I've got all kinds of yummy meds for it. wheeeee. I've been pretty lucky with few SEs other than fatigue. Boy, I sure hope that goes away when I start Taxol. They're starting to forget my name at work. lol. I'm pretty lucky in that I've told my friends and coworkers and have gotten lots of support. And my parents are just around the corner. Hope everyone has a good weekend and as SE free as possible.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Good Morning ladies!  I woke up too early with a very hungry tummy!  Decided it would be a bad idea to ignore it, so I've made coffee and downed a container of yogurt.  Just tasted the coffee and yup, yucky taste is here.  I don't know how much of it I'll be able to swallow. 

    Welcome Heather!  It's great that you've got a terrific support team.  I saw your post about your co-workers donating their leave for you.  Now that is a special group of co-workers!  Congrats on being almost done with AC. 

    Hope everyone has a nice weekend with little or no side effects.

    Michelle

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Good morning everyone!

    I am happy to report that my nausea is gone!  Uh oh...I hope I didn't just jinx myself!  :0)  Anyway, I had a girls' night out with my best friend last night.  We went out for dinner (which I thoroughly enjoyed) & then went to see Straight No Chaser at Chautauqua Institution.  FANTASTIC SHOW!  Those guys are amazing!  I'm paying for it a bit this morning because I'm pretty wiped out, but I'll just lay low today.

    Doctor said on Thursday that my white count was low, but that the Neulasta should do it's job & boost them before my next infusion this Thursday.  Well, this morning I have a sore throat.  I'm giving it a little time because I think it might just be from having the fan blowing directly on me all night.  If it doesn't go away after I've been up awhile & have eaten/drank, then perhaps I should call the oncologist??? 

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Before my first AC my red blood cells were already below normal. According to my ON is normal after surgery (of course after my first AC they were even lower). I was so "lucky" to have my period just while I was having my second AC. Today is Day 4 (2nd AC) and I am not taking any antinausea or pain medications, I have been able to eat and drink, but I feel "like I will have stomach flu". I also notice that I feel weaker and dizzier this time, and I have had some mild headaches. Did anyone have this experience or I should assume that is the result of having my period and losing more blood in the process?

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    I'm well past having any periods, but I do notice that I am weaker at times.  My red blood cells have been below normal since before I started treatment.  I just added a pre-natal vitamin that has folic aci and iron to my pill collection.  I decided that even though I eat a fairly high protein diet, I wasn't making headway with the RBC, so this is my solution.

    Michelle

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011

    Does anyone has red, blurry, sore eyes, or photophobia since your first treatment?

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2011

    Ralston, I do have sore eyes today, but I am WAY over tired from overdoing it the past two days.  So, I can't be certain if it's that or the treatment itself.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    I wear monovision contact lenses and have found that I need to wear my glasses for a few days after treatment.  My brain just isn't switching between near vision and distance vision, and so everything is blurry.  I'm ok with my glasses.

    I have been taking lots of naps the last couple of days.  I guess #4 kicked my butt a little.  DH slept and/or watched golf today, but he was feeling better this evening so we went out for dinner.  But that's it, we're home and done for the night. 

    Michelle

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited August 2011

    My eyes have been bothering me since the first  AC treatment. The chemo kills all fast growing cells, and that includes the eyes. I am still tired from 7/28 chemo. Ugh.

  • JMULL
    JMULL Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2011

    Hi Everyone - I have yet to start my chemo treatment, but was hoping ya'll could help me out.  My first AC treatment is on 8/24.  We had originally cancelled our summer vacation plans with everything being up in the air as far as treatment goes, but now that everything is scheduled, I was hoping we could still take the kids to the beach for a week. 

    We were hoping to go away before treatment started, but are having difficulty findina a Lake MI rental house on such short notice - which I am not surprised by.  So I was wondering if I am being overly optimistic thinking I could go on a week's vacation starting 8/27?  It would be a very low key vacation mainly hanging out at a beach house on Lake MI.

    Any insight you could provide would be great!  I know the side effects are different for everyone, but I would love your opinions.

    Thanks!

    Jenn

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited August 2011
    Jenn - Even though I did pretty well after Day 4, if I would've had to consider the choice of going on vacation during my treatment I wouldn't have done it. I am "too aware" about my "limits" and although my body is responding to my healing treatment, everyday is different and I do not like to take chances. Good luck!
  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2011

    Jenn - I think I could have done a beach vacation that soon after my first treatment.  We're all different and the SEs hit everyone at different times and in different ways.  I actually went to a Red Sox game with my son on the Friday night after my first Wednesday treatment.  Hanging out at a beach house sounds relaxing.  And as long as your family is doing their share to let you rest, you'll probably be ok. 

    One thing to consider, though... in the event that you had a bad side effect, how far would you be from decent medical care?  Is there a hospital in the immediate area?  It's very hard to predict how your body will react. 

    I have not let chemo keep me from doing much of anything, but then I've had a bit easier time than some of my June sisters. In a worst case scenario, you might have to cut the vacation short or delay the start by a couple of days.

    Michelle

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