July 2011 rads
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Hello Everyone,
I know I'm a little late joining this group, but just happened to run across it today.
I started radiation July 5th, so today was Day 15/31 or 33 - my RO has not decided if he will give me 3 or 5 booster treatments.
I have to say that so far radiation has been the easiest thing I've had to endure since my diagnosis on April 8, 2011 (obviously I did not have to go through chemo - Thank God!!). I am in and out of there in 15 minutes flat and I love my Radiation team, I'm trying to think of something to do for them once I am done, because they have made this whole process stress-free for me.
I read a couple of postings of people who've had bad experiences with radiation staff...I had initially gone to another office had my mapping done and everything and cancelled the day of the first scheduled treatment, I just did not feel comfortable with the nurses or male therapists (I don't have a problem with male doctors, but they did not seem at all professional) - not to mention that one of them tried to flirt with me in the parking lot when I came for my first consultation with the RO - he didn't know I was a patient and I did'nt know he was a therapists until my next visit.. So I think it definitely helps to be comfortable with the team. I would advise anyone to not be afraid to change centers if you can, you don't need the added stress!
Week three (last week) my breast did start to "tan" and I am noticing today some dryness in the nipple area. I also think that I am starting to feel a bit fatigued - my treatments are at 10:45 and I'm dozing at noon, while watching TV.
When I was diagnosed, a friend of a friend recommended a product called Alra - she told me that it was very soothing for her skin during radiation. I ordered this product online - deodorant and lotion, I love the deodorant (so for those who say they have to re-apply during the day, you may want to try this) and the temp was in the 3-digiits here on last week. I'm thinking I probably need to apply the lotion 4 times a day as my RO ordered, rather than twice a day when I remember
to combat the dryness around the nipple.
While radiation has been a piece of cake, I am already starting to become concerned about having to take this drug Tamoxifen for the next 5 years...
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Welcome LeeLee3. Glad you found the group, it has been a lot of help for me
I too am worried about having to take Tamoxifen for the next five years.. I am NOT looking forward to the potential side effects and to think it won't be just for a few weeks or even a few months, but FIVE years!!
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Hi Girls,
Momoftwo-I hope someone makes you breakfast this week -I hope you feel better.
Well thank goodness Monday is over with I am warning you my son pulls out of the driveway tomorrow morning back to college, a day early so I will apoligize in advance for tomorrows tear filled posting.
My Oncotype was supposed to be in today but Oncologist I do not like- called to postpone my results a week which I think is ridculus because the lab tech said he would personally have it done last Friday- ( I think she just didn't want to come to the office in my town this week she only comes here on Mondays). Just apprehensive that they started my rad before the cart, so to speak and everytime she talks to me she talks chemo-so what will they do pull me off rads after 3 weeks put me on chemo and then back to rads??? Im so confused and supposed to start the tomox on Monday but not sure if I want to. I am definitly going to find a new oncoloigst as soon as I have the test results in my hand..
Hope you all have an uneventful pain, red and blister free week.
Im sorry to complain to all of you that have been through so much more than I
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LindaJanette: no need to apologize! We all might have had different events happen - BMX, chemo, but we are all fighting this disease together.
I'm at 3/28 and I also have bumps on the back of my right arm, (my rad side). I felt it was odd that my arm would have bumps!
My RO gave me an Rx for RadiaPlexRx Gel. She said to put it on at least twice a day and 3 times if I wanted. She is a real advocate for treating the skin as soon as the treatment starts.
~Julie
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Yes LindaJanette that would be nice.My RO said that everything might be catching up with me,because I have really been good except with the rash and being red.So she told me to go home and try not to do to much.I Start my boosts tomorrow.I am almost done I cant wait
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Linda.Janette.
Is there anything worse than the day a son leave to go back to college? I dread it almost from the moment he gets here. How far away does he go. We live in Southern Illinois and John is at University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
I finished Rads #8 today. I really hate it. i haven't cried, buit I credit that to the fact that my family doctor put me on Citalapram (sp?) "until we get through all of this," he said. I hate radiation. I thought the simulation with all the markings was the most difficult and offensive part of this whole ordeal. It's easier now, but I still hate it worse than chemo. I was terribly tired when I got home today for the first time. Maybe it was a fluke, or maybe it will continue. I drive (with a friend or my husband or am driven by a friend or my husband) two hours one way every day to St. Louis. Some people think I'm crazy, but we are not in a mecca of high tech health care here. It's six and a half weeks out of my life and I can do this. I made up my mind that I deserve the best that I can get.
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5 treatments down, and 27 to go for me. The weekend felt like such a relief. Saturday the fatigue caught up with me. My sister wanted to do something, so I put one foot in front of the other and met her for a movie and dinner. My husband works weekends, and I am usually very alone with my thoughts. It was nice to have my sis there. We went out for brunch with a cousin on Sunday, and by the end of that, I was feeling energetic. Good thing I had some energy, because I discovered early evening that our freezer had quit. I had to empty the freezer and shuffle the frozen food around to preserve it. I was glad to see my husband by the time he got home at midnight. Today, I really felt like I had to gear up for treatment. It did help to know what to expect and it is becoming a routine. That helps some. The therapists are always friendly and we find things to chat about during the preliminary set up. It helps to relate to them on a personal level. I haven't cried about radiation, but I have definitely had my fears. My son suggested that I think of it as healing lasers, and he jokes that I am getting super powers because of the radiation. It helps to joke about it, and I have used the idea of healing lasers to think of any errant cancer cells as being zapped out of existence. I also pray for the hand of God to protect what needs to be protected as the treatments go on, and also to heal the healthy tissues in between. I take a half a xanax now and then when the thoughts get to be too much. I use visualization in the morning when I wake up too early and positive affirmations. We can get through this girls. We can do it! We are getting stronger with every treatment. We ARE getting super powers. Much love to all of you.
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Kshav & Leelee...I was really hesitant about taking Tamoxifen...and I actually started it 3 weeks before I started rads and have not had one issue with it at all...if if works, it is SO worth it. Good luck!~S
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Smilie, Thank you for saying you don't have any issue with Tamoxifen,I have to start it after RADS. And i am so nerves about taking it.There is hope Thank you
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pollyagain: I hate rads so far, too. And I have only had 3 treatments (of 28). I have a minor anxiety attack lying there on my back and then I panic that I am going to breathe too deeply and my heart will be radiated. So by the time I leave there, I am coming down off of an adrenaline rush, and I feel TIRED. I don't know that I hate it more than chemo, but I do hate the intensity of treatments and having to face bc every day.
smilie: glad to hear the tamoxifen has been easy for you. I hope to respond similarly!
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My RO, aka Dr. Clueless, sees all his rads patients on Tuesdays. Today, he walked into the exam room and asked me if things were getting any easier for me. When I said "No," he replied, "Well, we are always here for you." Then, he exited the room leaving me alone. The whole visit took less than two minutes. I hope all of you have a better RO than mine. Yours would have to go a long way to be worse. Well, 12 down/21 to go and then I am out of there.
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MaxineO: Those anxiety attacks are awful. Sorry you are having them. I know I certainly hate rads compared to chemo. I would gladly do four extra rounds of TC if it meant I could skip rads. Of course, I was fortunate to have few SE's with chemo. Talk here whenever you need to. We are all helping one another.
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This might be a stupid question, but what does radiation fatigue feel like? Is it like porn - you know it when you see it? I finished 9/25 today and don't feel any differently yet. Does it usually kick in later on treatment? Is it a sleepy-fatigue or a burned-out fatigue? Thank you for any insight.
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Hi my Girls,
Gigil Congrats on getting 5 down
ImJulie thanks for what you said to me
KittyMama thx for the laugh -Porn I actually laughed out loud and I know what you mean theres so much to be tired about -I think its like it just comes over me that I want to go do something else I stand up enthused and I just have to sit back down..
Maxine I have the same thing every treatment I too use a half of xanax does not even help that much I try to time it to breath in the whole loud buzzing times- I always run out of breath- and I just keep thinking if I can figure it out I can protect my ribs and my heart -it was getting a little better for me end of last week but with my son leaving this morning today was horrible I wore sunglasses and tried to avoid having to say anything to anybody knowing the tear fest was not far behind.
Polly my son goes to school at FSU its 8 hours away I wish it was Boston I could fly there in 1 1/2 hours and the flights to Tallahassee are just more expensive then one rad treatment( haha $1000 a day they just told me), so we drive. - How could anyone complain about driving with what your going thru I cant believe how far you have to go each day God Bless you..Maybe books on cd would help pass the time one of my friends swears by them she's always taking long car trips for biz
Smilie I also appreciate hearing one person say something positive about the tomoxifen
Gigil-your son sounds fantastic - Ok lets all make up superhero names or at least powers if I could cure cancer with a bucket of tears-or stop wars with a single anxiety attack..
Made it through today theres hope for all of us....
Good treatments tomorrow ladies.
Sending out Loads of Love to all of you.
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Oh yes I forgot to say welcome LeLe hope we can be of some help....
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KITTYMAMA - I literally LOL - porn....
I've been sleeping more at night. I'm usually a terribel sleeper and I sleep like a rock now. And I have no problem going to bed early. -
Welcome to LeeLee3!
Had 21/31 today and I am wiped out. I have two more WBR treatments this week and then I get a break until August 15th when I'll start getting my 8 boosts. It seems I have an old-fashioned RO that likes to give you a break inbetween to give the skin time to heal. My rads techs were telling me that many people at first complain because they want to get finished but after it happens, they're glad they had the break. They said the skin does much better. They explained how the skin keeps getting worse for around 5-7 days after you finish treatment which I hadn't realized so I am really looking forward to the break.
It is so nice to have these forums to read and write on. If I write anything about being tired or such on facebook, my friends and family are calling me and offering to bring dinner and then I never get any sleep...hehe....
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Barb58 - how is your skin holding up? I'm 20/33 and my skin is doing SO much better than I anticipated. Now I know that it can all go to crap fast, but right now, I'm a hint of tan. I was a hint of pink but it changed to tan over the weekend. No pain or anything.
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pejkug3j- I'm definitely pink but the only pain I'm really having is under my arm. That is sore, but very bearable at this point. I keep putting the aloe on it and hoping that it won't get any worse. Today the fatigue has really struck me so that's overshadowing the burn. I'm glad that you're doing well! How many regular do you have and how many boosts?
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26/30 Had my first boosts today only 4 more to go.
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@ kshav6, - I guess we just keep telling ourselves that the benefits outweight the SE's
@Smilie - thanks, glad to hear of someone with no issues taking this drug!
@LindaJanette - thanks! My son goes back in about a month - trying not to think about it - LOL!! No problem - go ahead and cry and get it over with
Also, I am so sorry to hear of your experience with your Oncologist, but sooooo glad to hear that you will be getting rid of him/her - , the RO and the Radiation team make a huge difference in your experience - radiation is radiation and whatever SE's we have, we just have, but the daily experience does not have to be something we suffer through! So good luck with finding a better team!
@Barb58 - thanks!
@Gigil - I LOVE your son's idea and I promise to use my powers for good - LOL!!!
@Elizabeth1889 - OMG, so sorry! It's still kind of early - any chance of you switiching ROs - you should not have to deal with that, on top of everything else. I know it may be easier said than done, but...
To all - God Bless!
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Barb58 - I have 7 regulars and 5 boosts left. I'm tired - actually passed out early today and I'm just up for water and a quick check over the boards. *yawn* I'm super tired but trying to keep up with everything - my DH has no patience for people who are 'just tired'. Men...<eyeroll>
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Kittymama, that's a great analogy about rads fatigue.
Barb58, I can verify that the skin SEs get worse after rads are finished--I am in that week right now. I finished my WBRs (breast and axilla) on Thurs. I'm not exactly doing the happy dance--over the weekend I developed "wet" desquamation in my axilla. This is not said to create more anxiety for those not finished . . . I think it was inevitable that I have some sort of serious skin reaction, due to the awkward axillary location of my tumor. Two surgeries, rads, July humidity, and an armpit are not in good company.
I had a long talk with my wonderful RO today and we have decided that my boosts are officially cancelled. When I asked her if she thought I'd had adequate radiation to my axilla, she said, "Have you seen your armpit lately ?!?" So I am well done with and well done from rads.
ETA: Also I begged and was granted a two-week reprieve till I begin an AI for five years, if I can tolerate it. At least now I hopefully won't have overlapping rads and AI SEs.
Sincere best wishes to you all!
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LeeLee3 and LindaJanett, I told my son that I was going to be the kind of superhero who wears an age appropriate costume and goes around the world protecting kids. He told me if I were to start to turn green or got really stretchy I might want to tell someone about it. I replied that I was turning a little "pink" which is appropriate for the pink ribbon superhero, but that I wasn't glowing in the dark yet.
I had my freezer go out on Sunday and I very slowly and carefully pushed it across the floor using what I felt was my body, in order to check another grounded outlet. I am now feeling some real muscle aches to the side of my radiated breast. I am worried I might have taxed the muscle there, and the rads have put more stress on it. Hopefully it will pass. The pink that showed up on day 2 is now faded a bit and turned more tan.
I find the radiation treatments to be not unpleasant. I don't like lying prone, and I have always used lots of pillows. I have to be patient with lying prone and being shifted around on a sheet. The staff is very kind and we make it a point to talk about day to day matters. It helps to take the seriousness out of the situation. And I keep repeating my mantra "God's healing hands on all healthy tissue". There are light panels above me that look like trees with sunlight shining through. One room has white blossoms and the other has pink. I like the pink blossom room better, but they are both very pleasant.
Love to all of you girls going through rads right now. Today will be 7 down and 25 to go. We can do this!!
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LeeLee3: Thank you for the kind words. They mean so much. I have thought about changing centers, but there is not much to choose from locally. Also, I just want to soldier on and get rads over as soon as possible. The empathy of the people on this forum counteract the coldness of the RO. Thank you to everyone here.
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@Smilie - Thanks for the encouraging words on Tamoxifen.. It is good to hear that some people do have an easy time of it after hearing so many other not so great stories. I wonder why some docs do the Tamoxifen after rads and others not.. Just currious on their reasoning there.
I think the fatigue has caught up with me now. I just had 10/16 +3 boost of the fractionated doses so am about half way there now. Where "there" is I am not sure though
. The fatigue to me is mostly head fatigue.. My body does not feel worn out like the flu makes you feel, but my head is tired and fuzzy and I can't make myself go to sleep really.. It is very strange to me.
I did not have a great day today. Was supposed to see my oncolcogist this morning. First off, a friend was supposed to go today and we were going to go to the movies and lunch. She backed out. Then my husband was supposed to go and he is sick and grumpy so we got into it before it was time to leave this morning and I told him to just not go because I did not want to go there fighting and grumpy.. I figure if he is not there to support me then no reason for him to go at all. So, I went by myself. Sat there for an hour and still no doctor.. Finally it was almost time to be at my rads appointment so I went to the front desk to ask how much longer the doc would be and the nurse was like IDK you will have to ask the doc.. uhhhhh no doc around to ask! Then she looked at the doors with patients in the rooms and said it looked like there was still one patient beofre me. So, I told her I had to go becuase I had a rad appointment at 11. She was still a bit pissy and said I would then have to go to the checkout desk and tell them I was leaving. So, I was there explaining to her that I did not get seen when said nurse marches in with the paperwork that I was supposed to have given the checkout girl.. She did not tell me to wait to get it but was pissy about handing it to the checkout girl. The checkout girl was like when do you want to reschedule. I am thinking to myself NEVER! But, I will be back again tomorrow to try again. None of them were appreciative of the fact that they had just wasted MY time, like MY time does not count. I am no thrilled my oncologist anyway and to have them treat me like this sucked too. I will say something to the oncologist about it tomorrow and see what she has to say too.. wonder if she will appologize.. NO ONE appologized! Geeze they are making tons of money off my insurance, you would think they could at least be nice.
Anyway, I am not sure if I am so bitchy about it because I am tired or what.. Just had a crappy day and it was all rainy and nasty on top of it too..yuck. Thanks for letting me rant
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Kshav6 - I am so sorry you had such a bad day- Doctors can be so insensitive'
I am going to give my stupid oncologist a bill for sleepless nights, bad bed side manner and adding stressers to my life.. (Im serious she has my test results and wont give me the results until Monday) so I am going to make up a bill on my computer and when the want there damn copay before she sees me to give me my results I am going to hand them my bill for services unrendered.
Sorry about the hubby thing too- try to do something nice for yourself and go to sleep early tonight dream good dreams and tomorrow will be a much better day..
13/33 and small blisters are starting to appear in a few spots will use cortazone cream..
I loved the age appropriate outfit sometimes you girls are the only thing that calms me down and gives me smile all day.
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Lena- Haven't heard from you lately. How's the mystery illness? Hope you're felling better.
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@LindaJanette - Thanks for the kind words. I never even saw the doctor.. only heard her voice in the next room lol.. It was her staff that was being insesative. I am hoping to have a better day tomorrow.. I get to go see a funny movie so the belly laughs should help
Sorry to hear about the bilsters, I hope they heal quickly and you get no more!!!
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:Linda.Janette,
My son did go to school in Boston. Got his bachelor's from MIT. We were thrilled when he got a deal for his PhD in Michigan, but it is almost more difficult than when he lived farther away. He has to either drive 9 hours by himself, or drive to Detroit and fly to st. Louis. Boston was easier, although it nearly killed me when he left the year after high school. I miss him a lot.
Had my weekly visit with my RO today. She takes her time, but that means everyone ends up waiting on her forever. Drives me nuts. Has anyone had trouble swallowing? She asked me today and told me that is a SE that might start showing up. Guess what? It had this morning for the first time, and I thought I was imagining it. Starting to feel the fatigue today. Husband drove me and I slept most of the way there and again home. If this continues, I will only be able to count on friends to go with me who can drive it, not the ones who just ride along for company. Today was # 10 out of 33. Wonder how I can do this.
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