July 2011 rads
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Jessica- I started treatment on Tuesday and am dead tired. I hope this gets better. It makes it hard to parent my 4 kids after my treatments. I am glad others are feeling tired as well. I think some if it has to do with the focus required for me to not move and hold my breath through treatment.
demaris- No SE yet besides being tired. I do find myself wondering what it woudl be like to not have to hold my breath. I feel like I am taking a test every day. I find it stressfull to try to keep in teh zone. I know they say they can stop if I have to breath, but who wants to have to redo any of this.
Glad to hear that this can be done. It was a hard week for me to adjust to. I think next week will be better now I know the routine. My techs have been great and have streamlined my process a lot. I havn't had to have 5 x-rays for alignment the past two days. That is nice.
thanks for being there
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Hope everyone is enjoying their rads-free weekends.
In some ways, I was more tired and had more pains in the hours immediately after rads during my first two weeks. Those who are just beginning--hang in there.
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You know the parable about the blind man and the elephant? Here's a good example in the breast cancer treatment world:
I've had a lot of breast pain since my lumpectomy, and radiation has made it worse. My RO's concerned, so she sent me back to the surgeon to investigate. The surgeon looks at my breast, and she says, hmmm, it doesn't look infected, but you've got all those little pink dots on your breast [this was the first day I myself had ever seen them], so, you know, sometimes staph infections present like that, so I'm going to prescribe you an antibiotic.
It seemed a stretch, but I thought, well, who knows? . . . maybe.
Next day, went in for treatment, and the RO nurse wanted to know how the appointment with the surgeon went. I told her. What?? Let me see that breast!, she said. I showed her. That's not a staph infection. Those are burned hair follicles from the radiation! Jeez!
Sigh. I actually like all my doctors and nurses, but I'm amazed at how uncoordinated this process is . . . .
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For some reason I am always wanting icecream! I have always liked it, but never craved it.. But shakes are the best right now
But, I will try to kee up with the protein more than the shakes
Thanks for answering about the nipple pain. I still have it, but it has not gotten worse. When I first wake up in the morning and the full weight of my breast goes down the whole thing hurts. I have started using the Aloe and that seems to help too.
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I almost never drink milk shakes, but I've been craving them during rads.
I'm sick of eggs and cottage cheese. I've never been a fan and have been forcing myself to eat them for protein. Blech.
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Kshav - my fruit smoothies are great for protein shakes - use 1 cp you favorite fruit (frozen), 1 cup GREEK yogurt, 1/2 cup almond breeze(milk) and sweeten to taste. True, they aren't ice cream but the greek yogurt makes them smooth...
GIGIL: feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need encouragement..I am starting back to work so I don't always get on all the forums anymore... BTW today my breast is almost healed...it looked horrible last week... I can almost put a tank with shelf bra back on
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Hello July ladies. I begin my radiation next month. I wanted to ask if any of you exercised all the way through radiation...if you had the energy for it? Thanks! Juls
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Julianna51 - I can't speak for all the way through radiation yet, but I am definitely going to give it all I've got... I've had 13 of 33 treatments and still doing my strength training and cardio about every other day. (I am still working my way back up to every day since having a hysterectomy awhile ago). The good thing is my strength training is with a personal trainer and I have regularly scheduled appointments, so I'm sure I will keep doing that.
ked329 - I am so glad you posted about the pink dots - now I know what those are! Those started showing up on me by the second day, even before the rest of the skin turned pink. Good to know that's normal. (Sorry you had to go through all that to find out!)
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I start radiation on Wednesday the 27th of July. This Wednesday.
This Monday, the 25th, I have a "re-marking appointment" (some of the markings from my simulation came off along with the adhesive over them); Tuesday, the 26th, I have a "confirmation appointment" where they'll take x-rays to make sure everything's right and tattoo and such; and, then my actual rads treatments begin on Wednesday. Wednesday afternoon, I hope, as I'm mostly useless in the mornings.
I hadn't worried about this stage of treatment at all. Out of everything, radiation was the least scary part going into this ( I was diagnosed in Dec. 2010 ).
I've already been through all my chemo (AC + Taxol), which lasted December through April. I had a double mastectomy w/axillary node dissection on the right in mid-May; then, I had my expanders (for reconstruction) fully inflated (still in - will have exchange surgery post-rads) during June-July; and, now, it's time for radiation to begin.
And, I am freaking completely out.
I just took a Xanax - an Rx I didn't need before I had this da*n cancer diagnosis.
But, why NOW am I freaking out about radiation? Right now, I don't want to go, I'm scared to death! Even though my rational mind knows it is not a big deal ( I'm having rads M-F for 7 weeks, daily, four or five fields will be irradiated, an extra 1/2 week was added on to the original 61/2 weeks because 1 of my 5 axillary nodes were + with cancer ), I'm having one anxiety attack after another. My anxiety disorder was bad enough before cancer; cancer doesn't do much to help it.
I, at this point have "no evidence of cancer" post-surgery: margins all clear ( though the one by my chest wall was only 1mm away! Thank God for good timing! ). So the rads are preventative / precautionary because my cancer was so aggressive and I'm at high risk for recurrence ( BRCA2+ & young & grade 3 & Stage IIIa at diagnosis & estrogen+ & her2+ ). So I am absolutely grateful there is no visible or "findable" cancer in my body right now. Soon I will also begin Herceptin treatments and Tamoxifen to help prevent a recurrence or metastases. In 10 years or so, I'll have my ovaries removed to prevent ovarian cancer, as well. Then I start wondering, will rads even make any difference at all? My doctor said he estimates my chance of recurrence, including rads and everything, to be 20-25%.
But as to rads. I was never worried about them. So why now?!
Is there anything anyone can suggest to help me calm down? Please? I haven't worried about this at all - in fact, I was looking forward to it, because it would mean the "hard parts" were behind me. But now - freaking freaking out so much. I can barely breathe. I've tried Xanax & exercise, watching TV, nothing is working to distract me.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you!
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I'm sorry you're freaking out whisperingwolf. I wasn't afraid of radiation until the day before and then I cried off and on all day. Then I cried occasionally for the first three weeks. Especially on Sundays and Mondays when I knew I had to go back. The second week I cried through my treatment and then I cried when I saw my RO that day. Last week, week 4, I finally calmed down and had a good week. I didn't cry once...maybe I'm just getting used to it.
I wish I knew something to help you, but all I can say is that you're not the first to freak out and it will probably get better! I've been trying to think of it as something to get through and that it will be over... it won't last forever. My tumor was also only 1mm from my chest wall so I keep telling myself that if anything got left behind, this should kill it hopefully. Maybe someone else has some words of wisdom to help..
I'll be praying for you...
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Barb, that helps very much just to read that I'm not the only one to have this reaction to it.
I don't know why I'm feeling this way - I'm crying off and on, as well. Seven weeks isn't terribly long, and I know I shouldn't worry so much. But I do. Thank you for your prayers, and I'll be praying for you also.
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Whisperingwolf: It is normal to have a rough first week.. it is something new, and fear about getting zapped... and not being able to move... I had major anxiety too... I did ask , "If i breathe will that affect where the radiation hits" I was very fearful of it hitting the wrong spot... the tech and RO explained that they give "play room" for breathing and crying just don't sneeze or cough... It brought a smile knowing that it was ok if I wanted to cry during the treatment (which I did)...
The other thing I did to help is work at home with visualization.. I would go to a happy place I liked to be and picture God there with me, rocking me in His arms... He won't leave you!!! - Then we had access to music and I made them blare Christian music during the treatments and I focused on the words of the songs...
It gets easier as you go (the first week I didn't believe that either)... Make sure you are comfortable with the process and if you aren't...state what would make you comfortable and MAKE them do it... You are the one that has to be in that position, they are there to treat you and make sure it is as comfortable as possible for YOU... You can do this... I made it through with alot of extra (personal) problems and they helped me in any way possible!!! I pray you have an awesome team like I did...
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Wise words GmaFoley....I have also prayed during treatment and asked my guardian angel to protect me from any damage to my lung or heart and that has been comforting too.
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Whisperingwolf: I had the same issue with crying. After my last chemo, I was so weepy. I spoke with my oncologist and he said it is very normal, which was reassuring. I then went to my appt. with the RO to have the CT scan, tattoos and mold made and started crying as soon as I saw the nurse. She was so sweet and gave me a hug. She said it was okay to cry and they were there to help me. I was very impressed and it definately calmed me down. Let them know that your emotions are on edge, it is normal.
I've only had two of 28 so far, but it has gotten better emotionally already.
~Julie
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Whisperinwolf: Rad treatments are tougher emotionally than people realize. For me, it required going to my primary care physician and asking for anti anxiety meds. Please know that your emotions are normal and we are all here to listen to you. Hang in there.
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I have been considering asking for anti-anxiety meds also. Either that or anti-depressants. I'm not sure yet but I do know I don't hardly recognize myself because I am such a nut case...as much as I try to hide it from everyone else.
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Rads is tough on me emotionally as well. But it has gotten easier as the tx have gone on.
Add me to those who pray during rads. I pray for rads to damage only the unhealthy cell and for God to protect my healthy cells. Then i pray for any one and everyone that pops into my mind.
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All of my techs told me that rads are a "piece of cake." Right after my first treatment, the (male) tech said, "Now that wasn't bad at all, was it?" I said, "Have you ever done this?" He said, "Every day." I said, "Let me rephrase that question. Have you ever had this done to you?" He said, "No." Fortunately, my nurse and RO have been very compassionate. Apparently, freak-outs and tears are pretty common. I was totally taken aback by how emotional I was. The first week was definitely the hardest, but even towards the end I found myself having unexpected crying jags.
I've never subscribed to the belief that one has to have positive thoughts about or "befriend" a treatment for the treatment to work. My attitude towards rads has been as pragmatic as possible--I see it as a necessary part of my treatment. I do believe the stats and so I'm trying now to cope with the aftermath of SEs. It's part of what I have to do to go on.
ETA: I did also pray (for myself and all of you!), take anti-anxiety meds, and practice visualization (some of it pretty eclectic, such as imagining I was in a sci-fi flick) during the process. I silently recited poetry and song lyrics. I did it all.
Best of luck to all who are beginning or are in the midst of your rads.
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I was taking anti- anxiety meds (Ativan) since the beginning of treatment but only at night to help me sleep, along with Ambien. On rare occasions I will also take an Ativan in the morning if I am felling anxious about treatment or whatever ? Pounding heart is usually my indicator. But when rads started and I had gone through a major emotional event with my first oncologist, I realized that I was about as low and stressed and emotional as I had ever been. So MO suggested talking to primary doc for anti- depressant and I started on Cymbalta two weeks ago. I have also had several sessions with the oncology social worker. As a school counselor myself, I am a big believer in therapy along with meds. A support group is also beneficial. Unfortunately the days mine meets are not at all convenient. So I try to meet with or call the social worker at least every two weeks.
I guess the main thing is to realize there is no shame or weakness in asking for drugs for anxiety or depression or both. This is situational; it doesnt mean you will need them forever for most of us. And I hope by so many of us sharing our stories, others will see you are not crazy and you are not alone and it is okay to cry and be scared, but it is also okay to ask for help to get you through this. -
I have completed 13 of 33 treatments. Everything is going good. I don't take aloe gel with me to treatments but I come right home and rub down. I rub down before bed and first thing when I get up.
I also stay out of the sun. This is hard to do when you live in southeast Alabama. My backyard is filled with hummingbird and butterfly friendly plants. This year I have had to let the weeds and grass take over. I am looking for better things this fall and winter.
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whispering wolf- all of your emotions are completly normal- I am very anxious and as Julianna said I feel like a total nutcase- had ovarian cancer 2 years ago complete hysterectomy and no more bio identials of course now (so hormones are in play here as well)- I think it's just normal to feel this way scared, trapped, mad etc...
Let it out here with us and whoever suggested a support group that was a good idea- I am dreading Monday but I think not as bad as last week-it will be 11/33 not sure if that includes 8 boosts..
My son leaves to go back to college on Wednesday and It's the first time I can't go help him move and Im going to miss him so -that it's all tied up with the regular cying and anxiety what a mess I am right now.. You all help and I know we will all get through this one day at a time
I have started to have pain in my sternum and Maybe484 my breast and left arm are swollen, only slightly pink -keeping up with the Miraderm right after treatment and again when I get home
having trouble with the emu oil cant get the ones I knew out of my head ... using aloe as well
Good Luck to you this week My friends...
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LindaJanett, I so LOVE your insight & humor! Thanks
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I had wicked anxiety...and a major meltdown the day of my 'trial run', last Wednesday. Everything seemed to build up and explode on that day. My first 2 rad treatments were ok, but I did have a few crying spells yesterday. I think the 'no big deal' attitude about rads hit me with a 'it IS a big deal if it's YOU'. wow. This weekend I read a book "Living Through Breast Cancer", by Carolyn Kaelin..she is a breast cancer dr. that was diagnosed herself and it's a really good book. I am not a big reader either, and it kept my attention. It actually reassured me about WHY I'm doing rads and tamoxifen...and I felt a little foolish for not wanting to take meds...now, I feel GOOD about doing these things! It is worth it. If you get a chance to read the book, do it. It was actually recommended to me by the day surgery nurse who is a breast cancer survivor as well. Good luck this week everyone....Just think, on Friday...we'll have 5 less to go! Hugs out!
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I have decided that due to my anxiety, I simply cannot win with rads, other than beating the cancer, of course. Sometimes, I cry after treatments because the techs seem so cold. Today, they were very kind and I still cried. One of the favorite sayings where I work is "Go gently with yourself." I guess it is time to take my own advice.
Good luck to everyone this week. I hope we will all do well physically and emotionally. What an emotional journey radiation is!
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Hi all, Well today is a hard day for me I'm not feeling very good. I woke up feeling fine made breakfast for the family then an hour after I ate I started to feel sick to my stomach and I am light headed now and just feel very weak. Just wanted to know if any one has been feeling this way or maybe I'm getting a bug or just doing to much.This is my last week of RAD
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Julianna51 -
I'm trying to at least get some form of exercise daily , but like DenimBlue, am only approx halfway through treatments. Also, I have been fortunate and not had to deal with chemotherapy or radical mastectomy. I have a shortened workout on my lunch hour, more due to time and deodorant constraints than fatigue.
I have been tired at times, but mostly Friday and Saturdays. Like others have said, I'm grateful for the weekends.
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@GmaFoley, thanks for the recipe. It actually sounds yummy!
@whispering wolf - I wonder if some of your anxiety is aftermath of what you have already been through with chemo and the mastectomies. That part is over and you finally have somne release from it, and maybe it is transfering on to rads.. I did not have to go through chemo, but was still very anxious before starting rads and I am a very pragmatic person. For the most part I do alright, but occasionally emotions creep up (it is a roller coaster just like when I first was diagnosed). My treatment itself is so fast there is no time to even think really.. I am sitting in my car to go in and back in my car to leave is 15 minutes! I spend more time getting my shirt off and the gown on then actually under the machine. Of course once I am done I am out of there too lol.. I do not hang around lol -
I had #3 of 28 today, and I have noticed a roughening of my skin with little bumps. Not just in the rads areas, but also on my arms, back and shoulders. It feels almost like goosebumps, but not as large, and they aren't red. Anyone else experience this? It seems to early to be having much in the way of side effects, but maybe I'm wrong?
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Momoftwo11- Sorry to hear you feel so bad. I don't know how people with children get through all of this. Luckily I don't have any one depending on me to once I get home from work I can just collaspe and let DH take over if I need to. It could be normal tiredness for Rads especially the far into Rads but call your doctor in case it's a bug or something they can help you get past.
I didn't get to have my Tx today because of equipment proplems. What a bummer. Guess I have to add another day one the end now.
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MaxineO, I developed bumps like you described--on the back of my arm. They disappeared sometime late during my course of rads. I also had my whole rads-side arm peel/flake during rads--and it's a darker color than my other arm. Not sure whether this was due to my two surgeries to the axilla of that arm, to the rads, or to a combination. Now my armpit is the pits.
Good luck!
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