August 2011 rads

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  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited July 2011
    You will do fine MamaV but if you are anxious about it get the RO to give you some xanax - It really helps - i did both dry run and first treatment the same day but it takes a little longer...so if you have any pain anywhere you will feel it - hense the xanax or something similar... Will be praying for you all Ladies - I am post rads 2 weeks and am doing good....
  • bb226
    bb226 Member Posts: 102
    edited July 2011

    Hi everyone,

    Had my dry run today. It went well. Had 7 films taken to check placement. Also had more markings and 1 more picture. My techs were so nice. They made the experience tolerable.They are removing the markings at the end of the session. I am bummed now. I really don't want the rads and I know that Monday is coming way to soon. Hope I perk up.

    MamaV try tyelnol 1 hour before this first treatment. That's what I did and it helps with the positioning pain. This will be your longest session.

    Have a great weekend.

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited July 2011

    Girls, I got kind if freaked out reading on another thread that's long term side effect is arthritis. I've been pretty much "what's next? Let's do it" and reading that bummed me out. I am not asking enough questions.

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited July 2011

    Cyborg - I have pretty much been limiting what else I read on here and remind myself that we are all different and may have different experiences.  I would think that getting arthritis from radiation of your breast is pretty rare.     Yes, I can't stand that having to go through radiation is one of the necessary evils!  So many unknowns.

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited July 2011

    Embrace the healing light

  • bb226
    bb226 Member Posts: 102
    edited July 2011

    Cyborg,  

    My personnel opinion is that the arthritis is probably not from the rads.  I have done extensive research in the medical journals for the last 15-20 years and never was arthritis mentioned as an acute or late toxicity of breast radiation.  (I have been educated on how to research, validate a clinical trial, how to set up and collect data in a clinical study, and to critically think in regards to articles, plus have the access to a large teaching hospital library. I have been published onmy  thesis work a few years ago.) Arthritis by definition is an inflamantion of a joint.  None of my joints are being radiated. Listen to julianna and myself arthritis will not be a factor of rads...but it go hand and hand with getting older.

    Hope this helps. On another note, My brother use to live and have a practice in Oxnard. What a beautiful city.

    Merrilee - LOVED the picture. I laughed so hard.Laughing Thanks a million. It brightened my outlook. How was your dry run?

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited July 2011

    I like Oxnard BB26.

    Thanks Julianna

    Love the healing light Merilee

  • Laker
    Laker Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2011

    Thanks, bb226.

     After meeting with the RO, I saw a RT and had some sharpie marking done with the CT scan.  The RO wants to get started next Tuesday, but the RT thought that might be a little soon.  We'll see.  No one has said anything about a dry run.  Guess I need to call and see just what might be done on Tuesday.  I ask lots of questions, but since this is new, I don't always know just what to ask.

     I like the idea of healing light.

    thank you all for the ideas for bras, too.

  • bb226
    bb226 Member Posts: 102
    edited July 2011

    Good luck to anyone starting tomorrow!

    Wish me luck 1st of 25...Not looking forward to it.

    I am wishing all of us a safe and noncomplicated rads experience. And above all, hoping rads kills all those nasty, microscopic cancer cells. Amen.

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Good luck bb226!  I start 1st of 37 on Thursday.  Let me know how it goes.  I'm so nervous!

  • lizhbmom4
    lizhbmom4 Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2011

    Hi there,

    I am glad to have found this thread.  I have my simulation on August 17...not sure when my treatments will start exactly, but I am guessing end of August.  My RO has told me it will be 6 to 8 weeks of treatments, don't know when he will decide which it is.  I finished chemo on June 1st, and just had a bilateral mastectomy with expanders on July 5th.  My margins were not the greatest, and I had 6 positive lymph nodes (out of 27 they took out), so I am very very grateful that I will be able to have radiation.  I am not looking forward to the side effects, but am committed to doing anything possible to avoid a reccurance.

     Those of you who have already started, did getting the tattoos hurt at all?  

    I'm also worried because my RO said I need to be able to raise my arm up over my head enough to reach over my head and touch my opposite ear...and if I can't, my simulation will have to be postponed. So I have about three weeks to get my range of motion back, since right now I can't move my arm above shoulder height.  I start physical therapy this week.

    -Liz

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited July 2011

    bb226 and mamaV -  GOOD LUCK THIS WEEK!  You'll be in my thoughts.   Please let us all know how it goes.   I don't have my mapping until August 2nd so anything you can share helps in the knowing!

    Liz - Welcome to our August thread.   You are so strong and have done so much already.   We're all here to support each other.   I think you will begin to regain your range of motion pretty quickly once you start doing the exercises to work on it.    Are you also getting your expanders filled before you begin radiation?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2011

    Hello, thought I would reply to your thread.  I have finished chemo, one short because I have too much neuropathy, which they say gets worse after the chemo is done and is probably permanent..  My feet up to my knees are numb and my hands to my elbows are suffering from numbness and tingling.  Oncologist stopped with one round of chemo left.  Met with Radiologist this week and supposed to start radiation next week, with 38 rounds.  We discussed the pros and cons and I left there not wanting to do radiation.  I have a week to decide.  Here's my dilema.  I am stage 3A breast cancer, left breast removed 9/29 lymph nodes positive, with 52% chance of survival.  Going through chemo was a cinch for me, I took it well and only suffered from tiredness.  No nausea, vomiting, etc.  Oncologist says it was because I am in such good physical health. (age 63, female).  Now, Radiologist says iif I do not do radiation I have a 30% chance of recurrence.  If I do it, it changes to 5% chance of recurrence.  If I do radiation, side efffects are that at 3 weeks I will start getting pretty sore in the breast area and by the time the 38 treatments are done I will have open sores on my chest and be suffering pretty much.  There will probably be some scarring of the lung, as it is close to radiation sight.  This could (and probably will) leave me with permanent damage resulting in a dry cough or worse.  Possible damage to the heart, but minimal if I am lucky.  Lymphodema is a pretty sure thing as they will be radiating up the arm where nodes were removed.  Now, next to the 70% chance of no recurrence, this sounds pretty cruddy and I am thinking I will call the Radiologist this week and rediscuss not doing this.  What do you or others think.  You have heard the talk and I wonder why you would think you will be better off when it is done.  I know people that have had cancer, but no one that has had radiation.  I am definitely lost at this point.

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited July 2011

    BB- looks like  you and I are starating together today good luck

    PEKWD- last year I did chemo and opted out of radiation. I had a recurrence 11 months later. I ended up having to do chemo again & I wished I had done radiation and avoided the trauma that a recurrence caused. Just my two cents. The picture you RO painted of open sores and what  not does not sound right. If you take good care of yours skin during this, that should not happen. As far as heart and lungs, my RO is pointing the beams in a way to avoid them. Makes me wonder about what was said to you. Also my RO told me that  doing radiation after chemo increases my chances of nonrecurring to 93-98%. I am not sure where the numbers come from but it was comforting to me to hear.

  • bb226
    bb226 Member Posts: 102
    edited July 2011

    Merilee - Best of luck!

    PEKWD-It is such a hard decision to make...rads or not. My first opinion told me I could skip rads if I want instead would do more survillance. That was exactly what I wanted to hear. Unfortunately my 2nd opinion people put the fear of God in me...thus the rads. What you were told basically is what everyone here was told about side effects. None of us like that we could be the one in ten for this side effect or another. But we all want to decrease our percentage of recurrence.  It is a hard decision.  Whatever you decide, it will be right for you!  All of us in this thread are going to do everything we can to decrease those side effects if possible by exercising the arm, lotioning the rads area, etc.

    I, myself, am taking the risk with rads to decrease my odds from 30% to 10% at 10 years because I have too much more to do in life. 

    Things get a little easier once the decision is made.

    May-be you could read through the July 2011 thread and see how it went for those people that have completed the rads. I have been following that thread also for tips and what might happen when and how can I treat it.

    You have done so much already to kill that cancer, don't you want to do the final step?

    Welcome to the club no one wants to be in.  :)

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited July 2011
  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited July 2011

    Merilee - I didn't realize that you started today too!   All of you starting today have my prayers.

    PEKWD - Our situations are different but I too did not want to do rads.   I went to 3 different ROs and was told by all of them I really needed to do it to reduce my recurrence.   I was fighting it all the way.   I think, in hearing about your RO that you may want to get a 2nd opinion, not that he/she would tell you that you didn't need radiation but they could probably shed more light on what to expect.    Every one is different but I have not seen very many women on here that had skin reaction so severe that they had open sores.    No, radiation is not going to be a walk in the park but it is certainly doable.  Hugs to you and listen closely to your heart and you will know what to do....whatever that choice may be. 

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    How did it go all who started today?



    Merilee I love that picture!!!!!



    Vicky

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited July 2011

    lizhbmom4:  You asked if it hurt to get tattoed.  For me, I got three tattos--one each on the sides of my breasts and one between the breasts on the breastbone.  The ones on the sides did not hurt at all.  The one on the breastbone stung and hurt only for a few seconds.  For me, it was more scary than painful.

    Good luck with your sim and your treatments.  We all wish you a pain free time physically and emotionally, but whatever happens, we are here for you. 

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited July 2011

    Actually today my first healing beam was a walk in the park compared to the evil Taxotere.

    Very easy, took a bunch of xrays which will happen once a week and I will meet with the Doc every Thursday. When you are laying on the table and look up they have a huge photos of.....a walk in park LOL. It was a path that lead by a bazillion tulips, very pretty to look at.

  • lizhbmom4
    lizhbmom4 Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2011

    julianna51: You asked if I'm getting my expanders filled before starting radiation...and the answer is, I don't know!  My plastic surgeon wasn't very informative on that, but I think it's because he wants to see how things look once all the swelling goes down.  So I have an appointment with him the day before my simulation.  We're only going for a B cup, which might take three injections according to the nurse practitioner.  All I know is right now these expanders are so uncomfortable and hard as rocks...and they seem to be getting harder each day.  They are pressing on my ribs, and making it hard to take a deep breath.

    -Liz

  • MamaMia41
    MamaMia41 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2011
    Good luck to bb226, MamaV and Merilee who are starting rads this week. Hopefully I will be joining you soon, waiting for RO to call with treatment plan, its been one week since mapping and my tape is starting to come off!  Noticed that some of you are talking about tatoos, would I have heard about that if I were going to get them? No one mentioned that during my last appointment, and I didn't think to ask. 
  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Mamamia - if u have tape covering sharpie marks like me then u r not getting tattoos. Some ROs do tattoos and some do sharpies. I look ridiculous with these sharpie marks and trying to keep the tape on!



    Merilee - congrats on marking one off the list! Glad to hear it was quick and easy!

  • bb226
    bb226 Member Posts: 102
    edited July 2011

    Darn it Merilee...I was going to say it was a walk in the park. Driving home I was thinking what I would post and that was the exact phrase. (I can't believe it.)  I am hoping the rest of the sessions go so smoothly. The total beam times was 1 minute and 10 secs (3 fields, 3 beams). Somehow I got on the table in perfect ailment without any adjustments. No spot films. In and out in 15 minutes. I am being done in the prone position and it takes longer for positioning. I got extremely tired once i got home but it is due to the stress and depression of starting rads. Walked the dogs and become energize. 1 down 24 to go!

    MamaV you are next. Wink

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Thanks bb!!!! I am feeling better now about starting on thurs! Hoping that my body holds up!

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited July 2011

    Woohoo Day 1 ladies!   Thanks for sharing how it went today.   So encouraging for the rest of us.

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited July 2011

    You know, I really really do not want to do rads BUT for my best outcome I have to so at this point, I am just ready to get it done and overwith.   Waiting to get started is both a blessing and a curse.   How did you all feel on the day of your mapping?   Was it draining emotionally?   I'm debating about taking the whole day off of work.

  • bb226
    bb226 Member Posts: 102
    edited July 2011

    Julianna I think the mapping was the worst day. It wasn't from discomfort or anything like that but it was emotional draining. I hated being tattooed. Thought everyone in the world would see them. (I had a mole removed after the mapping and my dermalogist could't find them!) I had no option to refused. My RO would not treat me without them. I also did not like the pictures they take on set-up. I thought they would appear in some medical journal.I had alot of irrational fears before that appt. My RO and staff were great and made things easier. But the biggest support was my husband. It really help that they let him in the simulation room and the control desk during the whole time. My RO made it happen. I had the last appt of the day. We went out for dinner on the way home and a drink helped. (I routinely do not drink so a drink is a treat for me...calories.)  After the appt I was fine. Back to my old self. It felt like a weight was off my shoulders...relief that I had started the journey and there was an endpoint in sight.

    My pearls of wisdom to you is... think of something you really enjoy and make it happen that night. For me doing out to dinner at a nice restuarant is a treat. I was able to lie on the table and think about what I would have for dinner.  I don't know if you will need to take off that day or not. I did work the whole day before the appt. It helped that I was busy and couldn't think of it. Also I had a support person with me. That helped me. My husband tried going yesterday for the 1st rads and I said no. I use him when I really need that extra support. I saw someone else brought their sister. I had my sis volunteer and my best friend. Just some thoughts...

    When is the mapping?

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited July 2011

    For me mapping was no big deal. I guess it is all relative, after 6 surgeries and doing chemo twice, this seems very easy to me. Hopefully it will stay that way without any complications. I have been lucky that way so far on my journey. I do have a little xray phobia, (afraid they will see something new) so I have to think of my montra while they are doing it. "I am healed, and it it my intention to stay that way."

    Going for #2 this morning at 10:50

    Oh by the way, looking at things this morning you would never even know I had a treatment.

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited July 2011

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