help with vit D levels

Leia~

I had Basal Cell Carcinoma.  On my nose.  I am also taking D3.

Have been using the "Natural" suntan lotions on the Environmental Website.

And in the vain of leaning on the lord. He gave us the sunshine. I am finding getting natural vitamin d has brought me to the realisation what God has given us is good for us.

Here is a link that I recommend:

This is an interview with Dr Cannell from the Vitamin D council with naturalnews.com founder the Health Ranger, Mike Adams. About Vitamin D3 and it is really great. It is about an hour, but I downloaded it and put it on my iphone and an educational walk to the bus.

I learned a lot of things I had not known. I would recommend that you all listen to it. 

Luna5 you're doing great. I think this "threat" nonsense about higher levels of D3 is just that; Nonsense. 

The peoples of this planet earth are starved for D3. We all used to Live In the Sun. By now, noone does. We're all huddled, in our cubicles.

As Dr. Cannell said on that interview, this has been a tiny portion of time that the entire society has avoided the sun. As some sort of ... menace. 50 years. A blink, in evolution. Yet, in that 50 years, disease has just Ramped UP. By now, everyone is sick.   The disease rates, are incredible. 

I went to a new dentist, today, and filled out the health form. And the dentist said, "You're not taking ANY drugs?" Which I'm not. Yet, he was surprised. I guess everyone he sees takes lots of drugs.

But we do not need drugs. We need the sun. The sun. The source of all life.  

sas-schatzi, I am just saying get back to the basic level. Why did your dad have "End stage renal disease and dialysis  b/c of uncontrolled hypertension."

Why did he have that?

I would speculate, not enough D3.  

Leia----not everything can be blamed on d3----In his case genetics --------strong family hx for cardiovascular disease traced back to Ireland with no CA hx. When he was dx with HTN he'd take his medicine only until he felt good --then he'd stop. I taught him the outcome of not taking his antiHTN med------stroke, chf, renal disease, peripheral vascular disease.  He chose instead to take supplements and juice. -----would D of been any influence, who knows. 50lb weight loss and exercise and a better diet along with the alternative stuff he was doing would certainly of  been help. But he made certain items center to every thing he talked about and would ignore others that didn't fit into his belief system at the time i.e he was juicing in the 60's. I still have trouble with eating carrots. I'm too lazy to juice---would I love to have someone hand me a glass every morning like he did, you betcha. 

 But that was only given as an example of why I listened to My Endo doc, that watching kidney function while taking high doses of D2/3 perked my ears up--------I saw esrd and dialysis up close and personal and don't want to create a situation for my self that wouln't be there if I was aware.

 I agree with you the sun is our friend, My ENDO doc was surprised when he moved from Kansas to Florida. He was shocked at how many deficiencies he was finding, and quickly made it a part of his routine screenings with new patients coming for other reasons. I was deficient as well. In Florida, the year round residents have for umpteen years have been warned about avoiding the sun between 10am and 5pm. and to use sun block. Now there are public education advertising's saying get 10-15 minutes of sun a day etc.

 We have traced the high amount of CA&BC to paternal grandmother------her family were all farmers in Canada in the early part of the last century when pesticides and fertilizers were NEW and used heavily. Prior to the introduction of these chemicals, farmers controled pests etc, by crop rotation that didn't deplete the nutrients in the soil. Her family tree is riddle with CA.

 Cancer has been around since the dawn of man. It's documentation has been best in this past century. There is a book called Omega 3. I believe by Dr. Rudin , but it has been many years. He wrote it in the early 80's. He coined a phrase "The diseases of Modernization">> Increases in CA, diabetes, heart disease. You might find it very interesting. Talks allot about getting away from natural foods and going to processed foods at the beginning of the 1900's.

I agree that D deficiency is a strong component of the debacle of cancer, but there are so many other things contributing. You have a good message, but if you make it a one item message you will loose people in the delivery.

Is it better to consume vitamin D a little at a time (like one in the morning, one in the evening) like I do with my calcium or is all at once okay?  Does it absorb the same regardless?

Thank you!!

I hate to say this but I have never had any luck with traditional medicine doctors when it comes to any support whatsoever for supplements.  One of them called my vitamin regimen "expensive urine"!

I finally went to a private physician who supports alternative medicine and he tested my blood and saliva and found many deficiencies, one being my Vitamin D levels.  I am now on 5,000 units of Vitamin D-3 since April of 2011.  Who knows how long my levels were low, but I had three colds last year, a case of shingles, and now a possible BC diagnosis....think there could be some connection?

I feel 100% better on my new supplement regimen, it's not cheap, but I'm going to need all the strength I can get to fight off this new threat to my system.

Just because they have the word Dr. before their name doesn't always mean they are the final word on every subject.  Do your own research. 

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Friends I'm reposting this here----------it has implications for you and your childern. Many of you don't post where you might see this.

2 minutes ago, edited a few seconds ago by sas-schatzi wrote:  I'm re-postig this from another thread. tested hyperlink. There are implications , not just for us, but all women and childern males as well as females. Children being exposed to high levels of estrogen. Could explain why early onset puberty has been such a problem. AND newborns being born that have signs of going through puberty.

-I'm even more bummed that article was published in DEC 2006. It should have been a Public Health Warning issued from some agency. You noticed that at the end of the article they said they were going to lay low. It was fascinating that the Mongolians to empirically figure this out and have been doing it for 2 thousand years. That's HUGE.

TO ALL---read the below hyperlink.-----How it affects us is-----Now we may have to make choices about milk.

Another thought the government has NOT dealt with the public impact of what this article identifies. Guess it's not politically correct.

I'm going to add the hyperlink here and re-post it on a couple of threads.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html

The same ignorance of vitamin d- levels existed in our Florida community a number of years ago until an endocrinologist was recruited by the hospital. The closest in three directions was an hour + away. The forth direction was the ocean.  He was surprised to find so many people deficient . I said it didn't surprise me. Here we have been encouraged to stay out of the sunlight from 10-4 pm and wear sunblock always. I then went for testing. His comment was "Do you ever go out in the sun"------WELL 3 days a week I work 12 hr shifts, two days are bed days to recover from the real 14 hour shifts.-----That's 5 of 7.  And then I avoided the sun between 10-5 pm. on the other 2. Prescription was the standard x amount for 7 days, then once a week  for x weeks---------you have all heard the drill.

It came out about a year+ after he was here that FLorida had a significant problem with D deficiency. We now have TV adds that encourage sun exposure forx minutes a day. This is a 180 degree reverse since I moved here in 1992.

BUT the first dose was Nirivanha, I felt this immense wash of well being like nothing in my life. I kept moving up the doses by hours. Seeking that feeling again . It never happened after that first dose. I moved the weekly dose up by a day and the monthly dose by a week. That first day my, my---------what a feeling. Has anyone had such an experience?

 We are still in discussion about where my blood level ought to be. He at first had not read anything regarding higher dose levels and cancer. The next year he was more versant. He is amenable to a higher dose , but has concerns about it pulling phosphorus out of the bone, and effect on kidney function. My level is 40, in his mind that is perfect b/c of above. Will go to higher level , but only with labs more frequently. Since Aromasin I have developed Osteopenia. So, don't know what to do b/c all the drugs for bones---fosamax, reclast etc scare the hell out of me. I have had a track record of being right about drugs that cause problems which has been b/c of closely following reports of trouble reported.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.

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My vitamin D levels were very low...probably why I had so many colds last year.  My private physician who does my bioidenticals had them compounded for me.  I started out with 2,500 and my levels didn't come up that much, so we went to 5,000.  I'm due to have my tests soon, so we'll see if that helped.  My boyfriend who has MS takes 8,000.  He never caught any of the illnesses that I had, so it must be working for him.

Well I finally got my Vit D levels to normal range. I started with a 18, they put me on a 50.000 UI of D2 bi-weekly, and it didn't seem to do much. Then in Jan they put me on a 5.000 UI of D3 daily, by April my levels were 48, but my dr wanted them above 65. I just got the result from the last blood test, and my levels are 66! finally! Now I'll have to wait for the next dexa scan to see where I am with my osteopenia (in spring it was already better).

Day - that seems really weird to me ; aromasin is an aromatase inhibitor (actually an inactivator), just like the other two, arimidex and femara, so by its very nature it massively reduces estrogen. Lack of estrogen leads, among other things, to loss of bone density. Doesn't make sense to me that there was no difference in the two cohorts cited in the study above. Maybe it was a very small sample of people involved?