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  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Singlemom - I do Claritin for the Neulasta shot exactly the same as FGCUfan.  And my oncologist is now recommending this to her other patients!  Some day they'll figure out exactly how this works.

    Michelle

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Paula, good idea to take melatonin.  I had forgotten how well melatonin works.  I will add that to my list of Tylenol, Claritin, Rolaids (if my mouth can handle them), Biotene toothpaste (?), and Senokot before my second infusion this Thursday, lol!

    Hubby is so sweet!  He installed a fan for me on our back porch.  I'm a lucky girl.  :-)

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Hi Laura!  You have awesome chia kids!  How old are they?  Really sweet of them to shave their heads with you.  My hubby and friend/coworker say they are going to do that with me.  We'll see.  :-)

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Wow Suzanne!  I'm so sorry for your horrible experience.  But it's good you're better and in good spirits.

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Ralston, thank you so much for all of the tips!

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited July 2011

    Woohoooo! Finally out of the hole! Damn that stuff is nasty! One left to go. Thank goodness! I think I'm crazy because I can't wait for the Taxol and Herceptin. And, my port incision and insertion site decided to spew out a spool of thread. I new something was going on, because both areas were bothering me. When the doctor pulled the stiches out, I couldn't believe how much was in there. So much for dissolving stitches! I hope everyone is feeling ok.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Rose - so glad you are feeling better!  Yes, one more AC then it's going to get easier, right?

    And funny about the port incision, I had a little thread sticking out that was bugging me.  I grabbed hold of it with nail clippers and removed it - all 1/8 inch or so...lol.  I guess everything else had dissolved.  It felt so much better afterwards.

    I've gotten past the queasy stomach and the nasty metallic taste.  But I am noticing the fatigue and it doesn't take much to wear me out.  So I rest when I need it.   And I eat ice cream Wink

    Michelle

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited July 2011

    Michelle, my heart pounds walking up stairs and changing my clothes. I spent 9 minutes on the eliptical yesterday at half my speed and my heart rate went upto 150. In May I could get an hour on there at full speed for 7 miles. This fatigue is going to get me sick. Does anyone know if you need neulasta for the taxol/herceptin???

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Rose - I find the heart pounding thing almost nauseating, too, at times.  I am trying to just take it easy right now.  There will be time for rebuilding later.  Not sure about the Neulasta for Taxol.  I don't think that Herceptin is a problem.  And I guess it depends on your system...I didn't need Neulasta after this past AC #3 because my system is sensitive to it. 

    Hope everyone has a good day, and stays cool if you are in one of the "heat wave" states.

    Michelle

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited July 2011

    I think the combination of the cytoxan, minimal nose hairs, and the 10 minutes on the elip gave me a post nasal drip that is cause a tickling cough. It's driving me nuts! I think I may try another 10 minutes today, then pool. Michelle, you are in a beautiful part of the country. I spent many weekends driving 7 hours upto Vermont to ski at Killington (in my younger years). I think I have a picture of every covered bridge in that state. I still have to visit Maine and New Hampshire and think that will be my goal for next year. I'm just north of Philadelphia, and the heat and humidity is stifling. I have a 27' round above ground pool, and a wonderful neighbor who has been taking care of it, and I am going to float in it today! Just missing the Margarita :(  If any of you ladies are close to me, come on over!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Thanks, Rose!  It is beautiful here, and we drove up to Hanover and Woodstock a couple weekends ago and were reminded that we spent way too much time in the Kansas City area.  The people in KC are nice and friendly, but the geography...well, it's not New England!

    Michelle

  • FGCUfan
    FGCUfan Member Posts: 41
    edited July 2011

    Rose,  my onc says no to the Neulasta after the Taxol.  I've asked twice & got the same answer both times so I'm hoping that's right!  I'm jealous that you have #3 over, mine is coming on Thursday.

    I spoke with my accountant & she tells me that all the over-the-counter meds we are taking are deductable on income taxes as long as doctor writes an RX.  I got all mine ready for tax time!  At this point I've been in the donut-hole on my Medicare for so long that I'm spending my self out of it.  2 more Neulasta shots & I'm in Catastropic mode the rest of the meds are free for the year. 

    Love, luck, laughter, peace, prayers, & little SEs to all

    Suzanne  

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Suzanne - you might want to verify with your accountant...  yes, the meds are deductible, along with mileage and many of the expenses associated with treatment.  The catch is that you have to itemize, and the total expenses must exceed a certain percentage of your income.  I think it's 7% but don't quote me on that. 

    Regarding the Neulasta shot, my guess is that my oncologist will run labs, and if my white count is too low, I will get the shot.  Really, that should be the answer for everyone.

    Michelle

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited July 2011

    I swore yesterday that I was not going to take a nap or lay down, so I stood in the pool for 2 hours. I ended up falling asleep at 6pm on the couch, woke up at 8 and went to bed. I am so sore from sleeping I can't stand it. The heat is killing me and my stomach is turning AGAIN. Oh well. Only one AC to go, and then I'm hoping to get back into walking. I'm getting a little worried about the Herceptin and joint pain. I've had arthritis since I was in my 20s, and I've always avoided arthritic pain and back pain by working out. I'm 47, and feel 87! Our local Gilda's club called me yesterday to invite me to a "woman sharing wisdom" group. I'd love to get the hell out of the house, but every support group is after 6pm. If I didn't have an 11 and 12 year old, I could pretend I was a teenager, and sleep during the day so I could make it through the night ~ LOL. Okay, I'm getting off the pitty train and going to try to enjoy another beautiful day. Angry stomach and all.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Rose {{{hugs}}} - so sorry your tummy is not cooperating and you are so very tired.  I'm a bit tired, too, but I can't sleep.  My nightly sleeping pill gets me from about 10:30 until 4:00 or so, then all bets are off as to whether or not I will doze for a while.  This morning I got up at 5 after lying in bed awake for an hour.  Luckily, my tummy is cooperating. 

    Sleep is so beneficial for healing (yeah, yeah, easier said than done).  You might be better off giving in to that afternoon siesta, especially in this hot weather.  My friend has spent a couple summers in Spain and told me that the country just shuts down in the middle of the afternoon because it's too hot and people just rest.  I think they've got something there!

    Are you taking anything for your arthritis pain?  I've had osteoarthritis (knees) for 11 years and I take meloxicam (Mobic).  I swear it's a wonder drug.  It works great for me, it's dirt cheap ($4 a month at WalMart) and I'm sure it's been keeping away all the other chemo-induced aches and pains.  You need some relief, sister!!!

    Hoping you have a comfortable day,

    Michelle

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Michelle, that's so funny about your eating ice cream!  After my first infusion, all I wanted was ice cream.  It was almost as bad as a pregnancy craving!

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    I know I'm a little behind you guys, but I enjoy your posts so much, I'm sticking with you!  Today I have AC #2.  I was so bummed about it yesterday, and the fact that my hair started falling out yesterday!  But I do have my wig picked out and it's ready to be picked up on Saturday.  That's good news, I guess.  It really is beautiful.  I also have a few pretty scarves.  I haven't decided whether or not I should buzz my hair down this weekend or not.  I'm not sure how quickly it will go now that it has started.  Any thoughts?

  • Southamptonmom
    Southamptonmom Member Posts: 491
    edited July 2011

    I decided to buzz my hair 2 days before the 2nd AC and my hair fell out pretty quick. I am day 8 post AC #3, and still have hair some hair so I don't know what's up with that. The hair thing doesn't bother me, and I'm finding in this heat, that a bandana is the best. It's light and cool. I don't wear it in the house because with the little hair I have left, it hurts a little if I have anything on my head. If I wasn't so worried about infection, I'd shave it off!!! My sister took me to get a wig, and it's beautiful. I'm sure I'll be wearing it when the weather is cool. I think my hair started to fall out the day after the second treatment.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    Stephanie - interesting question about the hair loss.  If you had asked me before I started chemo, I would have quoted what my good friend told me (she had AC years ago)...you can count on it starting to go around day 14 and you will probably be bald around day 17.  Well, guess what?  I am one full week past 3 AC treatment and I still have quite a bit of hair, including what looks like some new "chemo white" hair on top of my head.  There is still stubble from my buzz, the fallout seems to have stopped, and I had to shave my legs yesterday.  So the answer to your question is not so clear.  Odds are in favor of it falling out, and buzzing makes the process easier and neater. 

    As for the ice cream craving, it's funny.  First, I am diabetic so eating lots of ice cream is not exactly a diabetic-friendly thing.  Second, we have moved to an area in NH where there is a really good ice cream stand on every corner.  It's almost like DunkinDonuts!!!  And the typical "small" servings are just huge!  So I am sticking to a kiddie cone if they sell one, or eating half the serving and tossing the rest.  I'm pretty sure I've eaten more ice cream in the last month than I ate in the last two years!!!  Gotta get the calcium, right??? A few of the stands have decent sugar-free flavors, so I try to stick to those. But sugar-free vanilla doesn't cut it for me. So, portion control is my friend.  And I have found some yummy sugar-free Italian ices in the ice cream novelty section of the grocery store.  Those things are perfect!

    Have a great day, ladies!

    Michelle

  • pebee
    pebee Member Posts: 317
    edited July 2011

    Hi ladies- I will go back and read from the beginning....

    I had four rounds of TC and then had surgery.  The lump came out with clear margins but there was cancer in the sentinal nodes right next to the tumor.... So, I get to start 4 rounds of AC followed by 4 rounds of T two weeks apart......

    Will post when I get my first appointment!

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Well, ladies, I'm sitting in the chemo chair for AC#2.  I wasn't sure I would get it today because when I met with my oncologist, he said my liver enzymes were high and he needed to check last week's levels against today's levels.  So we had to wait.  Luckily we were able to go home while we waited and I got my blankie and laptop that I left there this morning, lol!  I also loaded up a cooler with water bottles on ice and put in an Activia yogurt.  Then we stopped at Sonic for wraps and my beloved Diet Coke to enjoy while I can because after this, I again won't be able to stand the taste.  Then I had to run back home to use the restroom because, now that the constipation is gone, I've had diarrhea all morning.  Oh yay!  We made it back to the infusion center and they said I'm good to go.  Just got the Red Devil and now an hour of Cytoxan.  By the way, my hair came out and big chunks in the shower today, so I'm thinking this is the weekend to cut it down.  I'm debating whether or not to dye it pink in honor of us and those who have lost the battle.

  • 716bobbiejo
    716bobbiejo Member Posts: 140
    edited July 2011

    Do it Stephanie!  Dye it pink!  ;0)

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited July 2011

    Sure, dye it pink!  I did a mohawk (only lasted 3 days before hunks fell out).

    I had my 4th AC yesterday.  I'm halfway through!  On to Taxol.  A big sleep weekend is ahead of me.  My girls will have a couple nights sleepover at their cousin's house to give me a quiet house for those worst days.   

  • FGCUfan
    FGCUfan Member Posts: 41
    edited July 2011

    Hello all,  Just home from my 3rd A/C & I knew last week's treatment was operator error.  Instead of 9 hours, I was in the chair 2 hours with absolutely no problems.  I was so hungry afterwards that we went out for pizza.  I'm not sure when anything tasted so good!  Only 1 more of the A/C then 3 week rest & 12 Taxol.  By the time that's over basketball season will be started at the local university & I can hardly wait.  I'm thinking about investing in an orange Ronald McDonald wig for the first get-together.  Before the gray I had red hair  I the University  President's wife has been teasing me about dyeing my new hair red, surely the party store will have one.  If I can find it, I'll enclose a photo! 

    My hair broke off about day 17, never really fell out so hubby buzzed it & it's growing as fast as it did before chemo.  I'm without covering at home but have found more of the cadet hats at the local community market & love to wear them out.  I'm 64 & my favorite has a Maltese cross with 2 skulls & says live or die.  I'm choosing to live & behaving scandously as long as possible!!

    Love, luck, laughter, peace, prayers, & little SEs for all.

    Suzanne 

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited July 2011

    Hi chemo friends!  I had my 4th and final AC today and will move on to 4 T's in August and Sept.  Everything went well but I think being forced to slow down caught up with me.  I was tired as soon as I stepped out into the heat after my treatment today... went home and took a nap... that ended up lasting 4.5 hours!  I'm up now to get some food and push fluids and then it's back to bed for me so I can tackle the busy day waiting for me at work tomorrow.

    I saw my surgeon on Tuesday and it looks like we have a tentative game plan.  The tumor is definitely shrinking (he confirmed with an informal ultrasound) and we are all thrilled... looks like I will have a lumpectomy and SNB about 4-6 weeks after chemo ends in mid-Septembe.  Doc says it will keep me out of work for at least a month and I admit I was relieved to hear it.

    Interesting thing happened to me today. When I was hooked up to the chair, this lady approached me and said they were looking for patients to interview for a video they are producing on behalf of the hospital foundatio (she said the target audience is "high rollers" not the general public).  I consented to a short interview.... they also took some still pics... good thing I was as camera ready as I ever am. (I am changing my profile pic so y'all can see. Having trouble with the image uploader.)

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2011

    We have a celebrity in the group - cool!!!

  • FGCUfan
    FGCUfan Member Posts: 41
    edited July 2011

    Congrats Kat.  Let's hope it the beginning of something really big.

    Has anyone heard from Singlemom1 since her treatment on the 18th?  I know she was staying with a friend for a few days but I'm still worried about her.

    Love, luck, laughter, peace, prayers, & little SEs to all.

    Suzanne

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Congrats, Kat!  Sorry the fourth hit you hard. I hope you get past it quickly.

    Well, I went ahead and cut my hair down today.  Actually, my sister did it for me.  It was coming out in big handfuls.  We even noticed some bald spots once we got going.  But before we did it, I researched a charity to give what hair was left to.  I'm donating my braids to Children with Hair Loss.  I hope I have enough to be useful to someone.  I have seven 8" braids.  I'm very excited about doing some good for someone from this, especially these poor little kids, some of whom do not understand completely what's going on with their little bodies.  My head is very red and extremely sore to the touch.  Have you all had this experience?  My sister says it looks like a chemical burn.  It doesn't burn.  It's just sore like I've had my hair in a ponytail all day, only it's all on the top of my head.

    Happy days to all!

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Never mind.  I have 13 8" braids!  Yippee!

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited July 2011

    LOL thanks everyone for the cheers. Indeed we will see what comes of my 15 minutes of fame. 

    @Stephanie, my head was tender and red too... itchy at  times and then just sore.  Felt a bit like a sunburn or chemical burn.  Nice to know about your hair donation. I still have a 9" ponytail was too short for Locks of Love... at least the salon told me so... my BF wanted just to keep it (which is a small gift I can give him for everything he's been through with me) but I was a wee bit disappointed not to have donated any of it.  I had a lot of hair and maybe I can still donat some of it. :)

    SO glad it is the weekend... another 13-hour day at work has done me in.  I have been given orders by family, friends, and coworkers alike to rest up like it's my job tomorrow!  To which I say... OK, sounds good to me!!!

    Hugs to you all :) Happy (SE-free) weekend!

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