Complementary and integrative approaches

Marygrace,

I'm sorry you have had such a hard time. Do you have a naturopath or integrative doc? It sounds like you're taking Avemar. I've heard about it but never met anybody doing it. Please tell us more about your treatment strategy. Maybe we can help.

Mollyann,

I haven't had a hard time at all until this stinking cancer hit me. Heck, I was in the shower the next day after each heart surgery...LOL!

The kicker is, is I blew off doctors for a few years to take care of my uncle who had bladder cancer. We didn't want him in a nursing home so my sister, I and my aunt took care of him at his home and doctors ect. He needed 2 people there at all times as he was in bad shape. I slept over on weekends to give the other 2 a break and relieved one of them each and every afternoon.

The only hard time I'm having is accepting this stinking cancer. I guess the shock hasn't worn off.

Luan, was it you who posted not to drink pomegrante juice?

MacyGrace, welcome to the dingbat club ! LoL



Re pomegranate, i only transcribed the most pertinent info i found in that book, except for soya, which is a whole chapter. I would not think that there is a brand of fruit juice out there that isn,t almost pure sugar, so would not worry too much about it. When i can afford it, i like the r.w. knydsen brand. got a bottle of the black cherry juice, plain, not concentrated, no added sugar, which i got on sale. they have a higher grade juice, more expansive, but very hard to drink straight, i add it to my smoothies. There,s a thread going around about papaya, i tried to find the leaves to no avail, so got a supplement containing leaves (where the magic resides) and fruit pulp

Thanks Luan!

I bought some pomegrante concentrate that you add water to. There's just a little sugar in it but I thought it wasn't good to drink if you're ER+.

I've read papaya is very good for you but I don't like the taste nor the smell. Ever smell that stuff? Thats why I make the fruit salad. It hides the taste.

My mom is into all this stuff and has been buying the Avemar and Noni Juice for me. I don't have a natural path...I got mom!

My mom is even taking me to see someone who pratices bio energy. I do it for her...mom...

Thanks you so much Aprilgirl!

I will look more into jenn from michigan and what she has to say.

Feel free to add what you want to the fruit salad. I'm VERY close to Chicago, even though I'm from Indiana. Even though I was born in Chicago, I've lived most of my life just over the border.

Wanna hear a good one? I had my tonisils out when I was 18. Ten years later one grew back.  I kept getting step throat and with the bad heart and all I had to get the little bugger removed...again. The doctor couldn't believe it and asked what I wanted to do. I said:

Snippity do dah,

Snippity ey....My oh, my it will be a wonderful day!

Had the little bugger removed and was off to Pepe's Taco's for lunch! LOL

Macygrace, lol, am pretty conservative girl, ain,t tried the papaya, am very sensitive to smells, so i better not....once bought a pomegranate, did not know quite what to do with it...the stores ate full of all kinds of exotic fruits, yet one can hardly find oranges and decent bananas, lol I am really glad you have your mom looking out for you, everyone needs a guardian angel in such trying times



I have question for everyone, has anyone established whether it is better to eat fruits not quite ripe, where i would think there are more enzymes, or to eat them more ripe,

Wow, tonsil grew back, we don,t want to know what you did to obtain such a result....lol



Am on phone, maybe a kind sister can provide you with the link for the budwig thread, it must be on page 4 or 5 by now, wild guess..

Wow Marilee, we should start a club for the "lucky dingbats" Lol Edited to add Bear hugzzzz

Sherry, were you on Tamox, then switched ? Which did u experience the less SEs with ? How long can u take the AIs for? Congrats on the 7 years out !! )

Britchick,

Even if the theoretical action of these drugs is to (Tamoxifen) block the estrogen on the receptor sites in the breast or alternatively by (AIs)  poisoning an enzyme to prevent aromatization, there must be some downstream evidence in the blood or urine that these actions are taking place and how efficiently.

There must be less estrogen or estrogen metabolites in the blood if the action of the receptors is affected.  There has to be some biochemical evidence. Where is it? It is completely unscientific not to have a measuring gauge for the absorption or efficacy of these drugs.

The literature says the action of both these drugs is poorly understood. And the evidence certainly isn't cast in stone as some would have you believe. Unfortunately, many have invested in these drugs without knowing the overall survival value is minimal. I understand this because even 1% overall survival value is enough for may. But it must be understood that if a drug has a 5% overall survival value, that means there is a 95% chance it won't work. That has to be weighed againt quality of life issues.

We all make different decisions for different reasons and support each other whatever our sisters here do.

I would ask my onco about the stats, but i don,t really care for them, and i,m sure he,d answer again " We don,t know" - just can,t get over what one of the residents told me during my hospital visit: while we are on chemo, a pregnant woman cannot even touch us for fear of harming the foetus....i,m just stunned

Toby, i would think that seeds would keep a very long time, God knows how long some of the stuff we buy has been on the shelves. Most things have an expiry date, but some others like spices don,t

Actually, one of them just posted tonight. Look at the thread named "No Cancer Here".

Are you telling me that residents feed on urban legends ? That,s almost as scary !