Accused of using my cancer as a manipulative tool

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gutsy
gutsy Member Posts: 391
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer

When I was in active treatment, my mom promised me a trip once I had my last surgery and recovered from chemo.

 After days of research I chose this amazing hotel in Crete for the second week of August/2011. A few family members would come and it was going to be a very special trip. My sister who lives in Holland booked the trip for us with her local travel agency in March of 20011.

Found out last week, that we can't go to the hotel because it has been overbooked or something like that. We were never given a clear reason.  

 I wrote a letter to the travel agency stating how dissapointed we were as it was going to be a very special trip as I had completed treatment for BC and had so been looking forward to the trip  I wrote something more about that they made a mistake and I hoped that they could rectify the situation, etc.

Really not a nasty letter at all

 My sister went back to the travel agency to see what other options were available to us, and was told that my letter was so negative and that I was using my cancer to manipulate them. She had to apologize to them. When I heard that I was so hurt.

If it had been up to me, I would have cancelled everything, and written a letter to their head office.

My sister who is a real pleaser, and she is lovely, booked another hotel for us with the same travel agency and brought them a big box of chocolates to apologize again.

It almost feels that pleasing them is more important to her than supporting me.  I am glad my mom got it.

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  • singlemom1
    singlemom1 Member Posts: 434
    edited July 2011

    Gutsy - that is horrible! I am so sorry you had that experience. For the travel agency to accuse you of trying to manipulate them and then your sister apologizing to them - the whole thing is just wrong. I am sorry there are people like that travel agent who do not have the least idea of what going through chemo or having BC is like and showing  such little compassion and understanding.  Thankfully there are people out there that are understanding and supportive. Please try and not let her insensitive attitude and lack of compassion get you down. The problem is really hers, not you. If you want, write the letter to the head office explaining everything that happened. I would hope you would get a much better response!!! You deserve a wonderful trip!

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited July 2011

    She apologized to them? THEY should have apologized to HER and YOU. Amazing.

    But...now that it is done, try to put it behind you and enjoy the trip. DO NOT let this unpleasantness bleed over and affect ONE MINUTE of your trip. You deserve it to be perfect!

  • Letlet
    Letlet Member Posts: 1,053
    edited July 2011

    Gutsy...your sister should have had your back...I would be upset too.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited July 2011

    That's just weird, Gutsy!  Weird of the travel agency, I mean!  I wouldn't be too hard on your sister, except maybe for involving that travel agency to begin with (although since she lives there and has probably dealt with them before, it makes some sense that that's where she would turn) -- but anyway, it sounds like some weird cultural thing with that agency... Either their particular personalities or office culture, or else some larger inter-cultural misunderstanding that you shouldn't need to sweat.

    I agree with Amy -- just try to enjoy your trip!

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited July 2011

    HOLY COW!  After you get back, you need to write them a letter and show them what a "nasty letter" really looks like.  Let them have it with both barrels.  In fact, you may get a rough draft from me in your inbox to get you started.  Hmmmmph!  The nerve!  

  • CoolBreeze
    CoolBreeze Member Posts: 4,668
    edited July 2011

    I use cancer to manipulate any time I can.  Why not?

    Here's my thinking about that:  I'm Stage IV. Movies are made about us, there are thousands of commercials on radio and TV promoting this center or that.  There is a whole  industry built around scamming us out of our money for nutritional (or whatever)  cures, and not only that, the pink people are everywhere, selling soup to make money.

    I see it like a beautiful woman should see herself - flaunt it, but do it elegantly. Play the cancer card, but only when you think it will pay off.  

  • gutsy
    gutsy Member Posts: 391
    edited July 2011

    Thanks for your support ladies. I am so glad someone gets it. I don't get why my sister felt she needed to apologize. I won't discuss it with her because she would have a melt down. I would end up feeling even guiltier.

    You are so right coolbreeze, we should all receive royalties when they sell pink soup, blenders, Ipads, toothpick holders, etc, etc

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited July 2011

    Damn, that makes ME mad and I'm not involved!  There is NO WAY you did ANYTHING wrong and it should be THEM that should be apologizing to YOU for screwing things up to begin with!!!!!!!  After all they are in a service industry and are there to serve YOU the customer, NOT the other way around!!!!!  And shame on your sister (although I get she's the peacemaker) for cottling them.  They need a good ass kicking.  If I were you after the trip send off a scathing letter to the CEO and whomever else you can and wait for the apology.  Of course be polite and state the facts, but also that YOU should not have been the one aplogizing.  I want to hear what their response will be.

    Keep us posted!
    Sharon

  • bedo
    bedo Member Posts: 1,866
    edited July 2011

    I'm not sure why being honest is " negative and manipulative"

    If you feel like it you can call /write the head office or 'review' them on the web.

    Or maybe best to just forget about them, they obviously can't do their job if they overbook and go around spreading negativity.

    Try to forget about them.

    I hope you have a great vacation with someone else!

  • CoolBreeze
    CoolBreeze Member Posts: 4,668
    edited July 2011

    Oh, speaking of reviews - I just wrote a review of a restaurant for Yelp  They treated me badly and didn't know I had cancer - but I used that in my review.  

    Unfortunately, I am unable to cut and paste here but you can search for IHOP in Carson City Nevada on Yelp.  I am AnnS, yelp elite.  Enjoy.  :) 

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2011

    Yucky treatment!

    Unfortunately, people use all kinds of sneaky tricks to marginalize people who are already marginalized in order to keep the upper hand. I have another disability, and I found this "Derailing for Dummies" webpage really captures some of the nuanced ways they do it

    bit.ly/cSCHRZ

    Your travel agent pulled out a combination of "you're being overemotional; you're just oversensitive; you just enjoy being offended; you're taking things too personally; you've lost your temper so I don't have to listen to you any more; you are damaging your cause by being angry." 

    Doesn't sound to me like you stomped and demanded they kick out all the other guests, just requested maybe some consideration. I did the same thing right after my dx to get into a run event that I emotionally wanted to do before my mastectomy, but I didn't want to register until the MDs said it was okay to schedule that way, and when they did, the event was full. I wrote the exact same request you describe, and cried a lot, and then after two low level regrets, I got a magical special accommodation from someone higher up. It's a reasonable thing to ask for, even if after trying their best they can't accommodate.

    As for your sister, mine seems to think I have a magic carpet ride as a result of my disability. Self-styled allies are so tuned into the imposition on themselves and our imposition on other people that they tend to wish we would dial it down. Because "snark" is my middle name (Gold Snark Lining), I tend to reply "allrightythen, YOU have this disability for the rest of your life, while **I** will be happy to incur the inconvenience of accommodating it for the next two hours."

    Hang in there. People sometimes have their heads where the sun doesn't shine, but compassionate people are happy to try to give a break and it's not unreasonable to ask for consideration. 

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited July 2011

    wow: that is total bullshit. how unfeeling and cold are these people at the travel agency?

    the other gals are right: focus on the trip and what beautiful experiences you are going to have - you have earned it!

    your sister's reaction is up for debate, i guess. i definitely would have told them to stick it. however, maybe your sister was focused on the prize (your fab vacation) and was determined to do whatever it took to make it happen. from that perspective, she did have your back, but in a circumstantial, more passive way. i do think she should not have told you their shameful reaction! you just don't need the stress.

    enjoy this trip - lots of photos!! soak up every minute. happy for you you're doing it.

    j

    ps: sharon (pupfoster), your post rocks - i love your fire!

  • firebird
    firebird Member Posts: 64
    edited July 2011

    Wow. "Unprofessional" is the most COMPLIMENTARY of the words that came to mind as I read what happened.



    Yes, it is true that some people view cancer patients as having some kind of "Get Out of Jail Free card" when it comes to social situations, and let's be honest, most of us have that same feeling to some degree while we are under treatment. And why should we not? People with physical disabilities are viewed (and, I am sure, feel) the same way. What it all comes down to is that both groups have a condition that the rest of the population does not have, and that condition has certain physical consequences that are more serious and/or longer lasting than something like a broken leg or a case of bronchitis.



    So IMHO the 'crime' here is not that the travel agency person resented the (perceived) fact that a customer had brought a medical condition into a discussion of a business transaction in the hope of getting a favorable outcome, but that he/she actually EXPRESSED it to the customer (or in this case, the customer's representative since your sister was acting in that capacity).



    I can't wrap my mind around what your sister felt she had to apologize to the travel agency for. Let's see, the logic must go something like this: "I am sorry that my sister wrote something that you interpreted in such a way that prompted you to express your insensitive personal reaction in a wholly unprofessional manner." Mr Spock is obviously turning over in his fictional grave, LOL



    I wonder what would have happened if your circumstances had been different and you had instead written something like this: "I had been so looking forward to this trip which is the first one I would have gone on since becoming disabled." Would the travel agency then have responded that you were using a physical disability "as a manipulative tool", I wonder? If so, I guess something like the Americans With Disabilities Act would really infuriate these people, since it gives by law such "preferential treatment and accommodation" to the disabled. ;)



    EDIT LATER TO ADD: I just re-read the original post and realized I hadn't at first noticed the fact that your sister booked the 'replacement' hotel THROUGH THE SAME AGENCY! Guess I was so incensed at their unprofessionalism that it just didn't register. So in other words your sister not only issued a totally undeserved apology to these people (not once but twice!) but on top of that REWARDED them for their bad behavior by enabling them to collect a commision on the other hotel booking. Now that I just don't "get" at all! That's like saying to someone "I am so sorry that you were inspired to kick me in the butt for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and by the way here is a $10 bill for doing that." At the VERY least the replacement hotel should have been booked via a different agency. (I, like you, would have written a TRULY nasty letter of complaint to the agency's Powers That Be... and then booked the replacement hotel with someone else. Why reward bad behavior????)

  • gutsy
    gutsy Member Posts: 391
    edited July 2011

    My sister who is a lovely person, pretty much wants everyone to like her. She lives in a smaller town. Apparently, her husband's family uses the travel agency a lot.

     I kind of want to say to my sister, I really appreciate that you helped with the booking etc, but I really don't feel that the agency deserved any apology, let alone a big box of chocolates. If I am really honest, when I think about it I feel hurt by the whole thing.

    I am afraid to do that, because she will say things like I do so much for you, etc etc. She does do a lot, she came to Canada twice in the time I was undergoing active treatment. She has always been very supportive and giving. However, it does come with a price. I can never ever say anything about her behaviour, or something that bothers me. She will cry and tell me again how much she does for me. 

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited July 2011

    Gutsy, it sounds to me that your loving sister uses emotional blackmail as her manipulative tool.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited July 2011

    Gutsy - I'm sorry that happened to you.

    I'm with Chrissy. People pleasers don't realize how upsetting they can be at times. I have someone like that close to me. A lot of the time they are looking to get attention for themselves, IMHO.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited July 2011

    That travel agency used your letter in the 'best defense is a good offense' manner.  To deflect attention from their failure to perform their service satisfactorily.  Your people pleaser sister fell for it hook, line and sinker. 

    I doubt she agreed with them but people pleasers want ... need ... everybody to like them so they are easy targets for such things IMO. 

    The important thing is that you have a wonderful time on your trip!!!  And maybe make her buy you a box of chocolates too Wink

  • cinnamonsmiles
    cinnamonsmiles Member Posts: 779
    edited July 2011

    I think that since you pointed out that they made a "mistake" and was asking them to rectify it, they took the heat off themselves for messing up by pointing a negative finger at you. Shameful. I wonder what crap they would have come up with had you not mentioned cancer.Sure your letter was negative to them, it exposed trouble for them!!!! Obviously they do not know the joy of finishing treatment for a horrible disease. This is one of those few times I like to say, boy, I would like for them to go thru all this crap then see what it's like.

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited July 2011
    gusty, sorry you're going through this. I haven't had this happen but I have to say, there are definitely times when I need to be with my tribe, that people w/o cancer just don't understand and never will. Do you have any in-person support group you can go to? I love this board but I found that in-person support helps too. FWIW, I've been going to a Guided Imagery group about once a month and I love it. All types of cancer patients. There's a brief period of check-in at the beginning and then the nice guided imagery. It helps me let go of my stresses and I always get a terrific night's sleep.  I get to be with my tribe but not get overloaded hearing about other stressful stories for 2 hours. There are also a couple 10-15 yr survivors so it's awesome to that long-road perspective.
  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited July 2011

    I would never use that travel agency again. Seriously even if you were using your diagnosis for leverage (which I don't think you were) they were totally out of place. This is not how to treat clients. They should have said nothing about your BC and just said I'm sorry but there is nothing we can do the place is booked. What they did is terrible customer relations. There are plenty of other travel agencies that do the same thing. If a travel agency told me that I would take it as a sign they don't want me as a customer.

  • firebird
    firebird Member Posts: 64
    edited July 2011

    gutsy, I can actually relate to how your sister makes you feel (when you said you can't criticize her behavior because she will cry and say how much she does for you, etc) because I used to have someone in my life who did the same thing. Not exactly the same because that person was definitely NOT an approval-seeker by nature but he was a MASTER of passive manipulation who would always trot out the "after all I do/have done for you" whine/cry/depressed routine any time anyone didn't behave the way he thought they should (or in other words, was in any way the least bit critical of his actions). It's a very hard 'loop' to break out of, because the "martyrs" will never ever change their behavior, and why should they? They've learned that it's a foolproof way to deflect consequences: Just cash in the never-expiring emotional chips they have 'earned' by whatever they have ever done for the other person in the past.



    It's tough to deal with someone like that because essentially you are walking on eggshells with them. You appreciate what they do but inwardly you wish their assistance came (as it should, especially if their help was volunteered and not asked for directly by you as a favor) with no strings attached; but with them, as you said, "it comes with a price" -- the price being that you are made to feel guilty or ungrateful if you express yourself honestly with them when they do something that upsets you. And that does build up resentment (on your part) over time, because it's a self-perpetuating cycle unless the price ultimately becomes too high to keep paying and you finally tell them you're not going to buy into the imaginary guilt trip anymore.



    It sounds like you are fortunate in that your sister doesn't live locally, but instead in another country. Trust me, it's a lot more stressful when the martyr/manipulator is someone you see in person often, or worse yet, someone in the same household! :-)



  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited July 2011
    I'd tell them you hope they get fat and you didn't send the candy and they certainly didn't earn any future business with their rudeness.  I'd also send a copy to the head office. 

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